Does the Adam Goodes drama expose a racist underbelly in Australia?

Adam Goode needs to have a real look at him self he is not a good advertisement for the general Aboriginal he is a sook he will be remembered for the young girl incident more than he will be remembered for his football he's war dance was/is a racist slur who would he react if one of the crowd had hinted at pointing a rifle at him the way he indicated he was throwing a spear at the crowd?

Not sure it's an underbelly, it's too damned obvious for that.

Jacques do you know anything about this topic? 1. "a low act by Goodes to single a 14YO out amongst a crowd of 80,000 It was impossible for Goodes to know her age and even if he did it is irrelevant. What you are really saying is - Jacques believes that there is nothing wrong with racially abusing a player if they are X years old. That doesn't make any sense at all. She was of high-school age and you can't tell me that she didn't know that it was wrong. How dare you try and divert the blame towards Goodes for this. 2. "He’s pretty dumb, whingeing about being booed " he didn't whinge. he replied to questions from journalists and said 'I don't know why they boo me" - how is that whingeing and why are you calling him dumb? That's just more slurring from you. 3. "antagonising opposition supporters with a supposed war dance' so you want him to be a robot and act like 'normal people' is that right? What is 'normal' in your eyes Jacques? Personally, I think Goodes is trying to show the pride that he has in his heritage and to open up the debate and draw attention to racial injustices and prejudices and it is obviously making people like yourself very uncomfortable. You should look into your own prejudices and beliefs before looking at Goodes. If you are being really honest with yourself you will realise that you are biased and that you are a bigot. Following is an example of how ridiculous and hypocritical this debate has become. Barry Hall said that the war dance made him feel uncomfortable. That's coming from a guy that knocked Staker out cold with a left hook. Hall's punch made me feel a lot more uncomfortable than Goodes little dance.

Is that right, booing Joel Selwood is for racist reasons!! No. Just because its Adam Goodes it is racist? give me a break with all your stupid agendas. They'll ban booeing full stop in your world

You're rewriting History Stewart, that was a low act by Goodes to single a 14YO out amongst a crowd of 80,000. Don't like the guy, don't like the way he goes about it at all, full stop. He's pretty dumb, whingeing about being booed and then antagonising opposition supporters with a supposed war dance when they're already having a bad night at the very next game is not very bloody smart. Love Cyril Rioli and Buddy Franklin and the way they go about it, nothing to do with the colour of Adam Goodes skin at all, I just don't like him on the field, just the same as I don't like Joel Selwood and the way he goes about milking his frees.

No, it's not a racist thing. Adam Goodes might claim that it is, but let's face it. He's a drama queen, an attention whore. He does all this crap just for attention, and people are sick of it. Lol, he rants about his 'heritage' when he doesn't even look aboriginal (he actually looks of Lebanese/Greek Descent). I seriously question his origins. At the very most, he may be a quarter caste aboriginal, and imo, someone who is of quarter caste descent has no right to be running their mouth about Indigenous affairs, as they are not pure blood aboriginal. He needs to get off his high horse and stop acting like such a self centered douchebag.

Dittto Goodes

This is a very complex issue Xiedazhou and I’m quite sure that we both want the same outcome (equality for all). We are however looking at this issue from different viewpoints due to our own experiences and research. Neither of us is wrong, we are just coming at it from different angles. I really don’t want to say a lot more on this topic after this post as it’s a sports forum and I want to respect other people so if this is isn’t of interest to you please just ignore it and move on. But I will respond to the points you raised and hopefully that will be it from me. ”however if they dont want to do the time, they simply shouldn’t do the crime" I wish it was that simple. In principle, I agree with you but only when the laws are fair and equitable for all and I don’t believe that they are. and “Are you suggesting that there should be more lenient standards of behaviour for blacks as compared to whites” I’m proposing a very radical idea i.e. that the law should be applied to every person equally. We have never had laws like this before but it’s high-time that we did. So no, I am not expecting anyone to be given leniency but some groups of people are already given far much leniency and they are amongst the ones that I want targeted. Why does a guy that stole 9 video tapes get two-life terms when a white-collar criminal gets rewarded for his crime? Corporations and their executives at e.g. the banks stole trillions of dollars from the US and global economies (that's you and me) in the lead up to, during and after the GFC yet not one person was sent to jail for these crimes and no laws have been passed since to ensure that we don’t have a repeat (which we will only much bigger). Quite the opposite, they were rewarded for their crimes in the form of tax-payer funded bailouts (and subsequent bonuses) that 80% of Americans were opposed to, that is only one example of the inequality that I am talking about but there are many more. We (the citizens and future generations) are expected to repay the debt that they created and we are told to tighten our belts and suck it up. That is called ‘financial slavery’ and slavery disguises itself in many forms. Conversely, 50% of US prisoners are in jail for drug related offences. The US-run Afghanistan supplies 92% of the heroin in the world and production is now at record levels. It was practically non-existent prior to the US invasion and don’t try to tell me that the US can’t stop it but they are profiting from it so they won’t do a thing and they will rarely even acknowledge that it exists. Afghanistan just so happens to have over $1 Trillion worth of minerals under the ground. I find all of this incredibly hypocritical. If heroin was legalised tomorrow would you and I suddenly become heroin addicts? Of course we wouldn't so stop for a minute and ask yourself why do we have these laws in the first place? Many prisons are privately owned and the 3 largest US for-profit prison companies have spent approx $100 million on lobbying and campaign contributions to keep politicians on the side of privatised incarceration which costs the US taxpayer approx $2 billion a year. So in the US smoking a joint or stealing videos is a crime worthy of a jail sentence while stealing trillions isn’t a crime at all. Why did these prisoners do the crime is the real question that needs exploring and it’s far too complex to explain here but I will say this. 47 Million American's are on food stamps, most of these people are living below the poverty line and most of them are black or hispanic. It's well known that the police target their neighbourhoods because it's much harder to prosecute an educated 'white-guy' living in a better suburb than it is to prosecute a poor and uneducated black or hispanic. Have you seen the recent rallies in the US? What do you think they are protesting about? Inequality, just like they were in the 60’s because not a lot has changed if you take a look under the covers and past the obvious removal of segregation and the addition of giving blacks the right to vote. However, if you have been convicted of a felony in the US you no longer have a right to vote (felony disenfranchisement) and in many cases that is permanent, even after you have been released from prison and done your time. It’s a life sentence. As of 2008 over 5.3 million people in the US were denied the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement. Approximately 13% of the US population is African American, yet African Americans make up 38% of the American prison population. Slightly more than 15% of the US population is Hispanic, while 20% of the prison population is Hispanic. People who are felons are disproportionately people of colour In the US, felony disenfranchisement laws disproportionately affect communities of colour as "they are disproportionately arrested, convicted, and subsequently denied the right to vote". Research has shown that as much as 10% of the population in some minority communities in the USA is unable to vote as a result of felon disenfranchisement. The difference between the slaves that you are speaking about and the ones that I am speaking about is that your slaves are in 2nd and 3rd world countries and they know that they are slaves and so do the citizens of those countries. That doesn't make it any better but it's important to know that there is a difference. While in my example it is a 1st world country and the ‘so-called leader of the free-world’ yet we don’t know that slavery (in its many disguises) even exists. I haven’t researched the slave problems that you have raised in any great detail but I will. I do know that American allies like Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan and the Democratic Republic of the Congo have a lot of slaves and that these countries all sit with the USA at the UN. The US also gives them a lot of foreign aide and for all intents and purposes they are all friends with each other, especially Saudi Arabia but they have a lot of oil which is why they are allowed to get away with practically anything. 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia yet Iraq was invaded under false pretences? I have mentioned the USA because it has the most clout in the world and therefore it has the ability to effect change more than any other nation, for good and bad. Rather than using their influence as a vehicle for positive reform they prefer to spend their time systematically removing as many of our human rights as quickly as they can and the west is blindly following them. They also poke their noses into other nations business when in most cases it is neither warranted or necessary and it often does more harm than good. I will take a closer look into the modern day slavery that you have raised and I thank you for alerting me to it. I’d suggest that you take a closer look at our systems and laws because they are more unjust, ubiquitous, harder to spot and are far more pervasive and dangerous than the forms of slavery that you are talking about but I certainly understand the seriousness of the points you raised and I also want to see an end to them. If the US wanted to abolish slavery it could do it quite easily. They are experts at regime change when they have an incentive to do so. They could start by changing their own laws and by releasing half of the people that are in jail and restore their right to vote. They could also push for sanctions and threaten to invade countries that use slave labour as it has done to so many other countries that have oil. Unless the country has oil, other resources or it’s of strategic importance to the US they will continue to look the other way and allow these atrocities to continue.

When does he play the race card? Find a single quote or action of his expecting preferential treatment due to his race. Defending yourself once doesn't count.

Yes I was on my soapbox Pat sorry about that but thanks for reading. I hate to see injustice in any form. To answer your question. I'm not a socialist, never have been and never will be. I don't believe in our form of capitalism either (neo-classical economics) because it is a flawed model that is going to collapse one day. Socialism and capitalism (in their current forms) are both flawed and they will both fail, it is a mathematical and economic certainty. Those are the words of some former World Bank & IMF Chief Economists that have walked away from their positions and are now informing us about how 'the system' works on 'the inside' and why it will fail us all (source below). Don't confuse me standing up for the oppressed as socialism. I was brought up to believe that everyone deserved a fair go as I thought that was the Australian way. I want all people to have the same rights and opportunities as the next person, period. I hope that's not too complicated a concept to understand? Rand Paul is running for US President and he also espouses the classical economic model so research his policies or listen to him on you tube as my political and economic philosophies are similar to his. You tube would be best because it is first person and he can't be misquoted or taken out of context. Source - I suggest you watch this award-winning video called 'The Four Horseman' if you want an insight into how the world works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU World Bank & IMF Chief Economists and Coiln Powell's Chief of Staff know more about this than any us so i am referring you to this video so that you can hear their words for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

It's the idea of a black man not knowing his place that rubs these AFL fans the wrong way. The denial of this through the comments here speaks volumes. Your point about Rosa Parks is spot on, and we could extend it to the sporting world with Muhammad Ali getting similar treatment.

Must have been because he was staging for free kicks though ... surely???

Weren't you at the North v Hawks match !! Hodge and Lewis copped it. Michell should cop it every week, master of the short sharp rip to the stomach.

Terrible attitude to have. Racial discrimination should never be tolerated. End of story.

umm thats a really poor comparison, dont compare Rosa with Goodes

of course its one or the other? maybe they just dont like him?

ok, because one coach said something then you can draw a conclusion about australian fans and booing? nice long bow

jax, you need to go find a soap box to stand on. tell me were you a member of the socialist workers alliance at uni?

WP- I dare you to do that. See if anyone joins in.

Have you ever considered that perhaps Adam was thinking more about the history of his people?