Warriors vs Roosters: The wall was fine, the grab was not

By Dan Eastwood / Expert

The Warriors’ used a ‘Wall’ defence against the Sydney Roosters in Auckland on Saturday night. Its use lit my social media feed up like a Haka prior to a World Cup final.

The bottom line is it was perfectly legal and I don’t know why teams haven’t been using it for years.

To illustrate what happened, we need to go back to the game situation. With time running out on the clock, the Warriors were trailing 21 points to 20 and desperate to level the scores.

They had long since lost the momentum of the game after leading 14 to 0, and then 20 to 6 in the 47th minute.

Unlike the Roosters’ field goal attempt, who were tackled only three metres from the goal-line adjacent to the posts on tackle five, the Warriors were in what I describe as an optimum position to fire over a one-pointer. The Roosters were tackled to the right of the posts and their hooker Jake Friend fired back a perfect pass to the chest of James Maloney standing 15 metres away.

And it needed to be perfect; any loop on the ball or any misdirection to the pass would have had Maloney smothered by Shaun Johnson sprinting off his line.

Its execution was sublime, with key players all performing their roles when it was required.

Which brings me back to the ‘optimum’ positioning claim that I made.

The Warriors were tackled 13 metres from the goal-line, in front of the posts.

That position gives a team certain advantages when attempting a field goal.

Firstly, the team can stand a potential kicker both left and right of the ruck, which provides two options to the attackers and commits the defenders to two players (the Roosters had only one ace card – Maloney).

Secondly, the attacking team needs only concern itself with two defenders: the markers. With the potential kickers standing a further ten metres behind the ruck, the pass needs only travel those ten metres yet the goal-line defenders need to run 23 metres to make the tackle. Johnson almost charged down Maloney’s kick despite running from the opposite side of the goal posts.

So the Warriors have negated the Johnson ‘shooter’ threat, now what to do about the only other threats?

The boys from New Zealand stood their big forwards, led by their Captain, the tireless Simon Mannering, right next to their dummy half in a human ‘wall’. They stood shoulder to shoulder rendering the marker’s job of getting to the kicker as difficult as possible.

I was asked about these players being offside, or ‘sleepers’. There is nothing in the Laws of the game that prevents this. Not in 2015 anyway. Although a generation ago it was not permitted.

Older Roarers will remember the St George Dragons using what became known as the ‘mousetrap’ play back in the early 1990s. In those days the team in possession, as well as the team in defence, were required by the laws of the game to retire five metres from the ruck.

By this point in the game’s evolution the referees were standing back the defence between eight and ten metres and allowing the team with the ball to stand wherever they wanted as long as they were behind the ruck.

It was in the days when players like Benny Elias were permitted to strike for the ball from marker, as long as the ball was placed on the ground before the marker raised his leg.

My first year of refereeing was under this rule and it was nothing short of a damned headache.

The league eliminated it the following season.

Back to the mousetrap. St George would have the tackled player play the ball with a dummy half in place. However, that first player would feign to pick up the ball and scoot off in one direction leaving the ball behind.

Meanwhile, a second Dragons player had crept up and scooped the ball, diving in the opposite direction. With the markers fooled from the first dummy half, the second dummy half would often break the line and score.

Of course this was ‘technically’ against the Laws of rugby league, and at the time it caused all sorts of consternation on both sides of the globe. This article from The Independent in 1999 describes the Rugby Football League issuing a memo declaring the move illegal.

Now that the requirement for the attackers to stand back has been removed they can stand exactly where the Warriors did on Saturday. Put all ten available players there – there’s nothing illegal about standing as a wall.

Except one aspect of that play which I had a serious question over – Mannering grabbing the marker. Curiously, the official NRL highlights cuts to the field goal vision immediately after Mannering lets the marker go.

Conversely, the highlights package leaves the Roosters play-the-ball in where there was no controversy. I understand the time limit of four minutes of highlights per game so I’ll give the NRL the benefit of the doubt.

Mannering did grab the marker, which is certainly not permitted, and the incident was considered by the video referees. Without being privy to the way they arrived at that ruling, I can only guess that they judged the marker would not have reached the kicker in time to influence the kick, even if he’d been allowed an unimpeded passage.

I’m not so sure – it looked like it had an impact to me. I would have awarded a penalty against the Warriors, not for where the forwards were positioned, but for impeding the defender.

It’s a massive call. A penalty would have condemned the Warriors to a loss and probably made the officials the headlines.

As a side-note to the positioning of the Roosters on tackle five compared to the Warriors, the Roosters employed exactly the same tactics at 21-21 as they did for their field goal to take the lead.

This time the tackle was to the left of the posts, Maloney was in identical position in front of the sticks, but this time was about to be swamped by the defence before he could get his kick away.

Instead he passed a long ball to his right, and the compressed Warriors defence was exposed. Exploiting the overlap the Roosters used their numbers to send Blake Ferguson over for the winning try.

Congratulations Sydney Roosters – too good for the Warriors during the big plays.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2015-06-16T02:15:02+00:00

Dan Eastwood

Expert


Sylvester I agree 100% with the kick chasers. Ryan Morgan was run off the ball last night and denied any chance of contesting the kick. I have no idea why it is not being policed.

2015-06-15T23:20:30+00:00

Chook

Guest


I've watched the reply numerous times. Jackson Hastings has hold of Hurrell before he passed the ball,whilst he was on his knees, after both arms had hit the ground. It's 50/50 whether Jake Friend was also involved before the ball was passed. It should have been ruled no try.

2015-06-15T15:43:08+00:00

Rwb

Guest


Chook. If you watch the replay again, you will see that aubo brings down hurrell. Hurrell is not held, and as a roosters player comes to tackle hurrell again, he gets his pass away before his ball carrying arm touches the turf. That's play on. I'm a roosters fan and at first thought he was held, but he definitely was not

2015-06-15T12:44:17+00:00

Sylvester

Guest


If refs are going to ignore the blatant blocking of kick chasers, then there seems little point cracking down on this sort of thing.

2015-06-15T10:46:13+00:00

Cecil

Guest


Spot on Alex

2015-06-15T10:28:23+00:00

GPR

Guest


I know right, it enrages me that a club can have a coach on the rules committee, he can whinge about things and it gets changed for him (his grubs get away with their high tackles since his dive cry), they operate with their own salary cap and get big calls go their way nearly every week, yet their fans think that their poor little Rorters are hard done by!

2015-06-15T09:48:02+00:00

nerval

Guest


Ok Dan, but would it at least not be easier now with 2 referees out on the paddock? Didn't the rule add something to the game?

2015-06-15T09:16:25+00:00

Mitcher

Guest


You're an embarrassment if you actually think refs are out there determined to disadvantage your poor little team. Passion is great; delusion is sad.

AUTHOR

2015-06-15T03:36:39+00:00

Dan Eastwood

Expert


As I recall SBW was pulled up for a lot of those 'hook' or 'around the corner' passes when he returned from rugby union. He refined his style, specifically his body position when he hit the line to be more side-on so that his offloads were indeed flat. He had to work on it though. Almost identical to the Warriors pass in the middle of the park to Solomene Kata, which is flat but looks forward because of the tackle stopping progress and the speed of Kata's run.

2015-06-15T03:09:48+00:00

littleredrooster

Guest


You're making mountains out of flat lines Alex L!..."those" ?.. please elaborate?

2015-06-15T03:04:25+00:00

littleredrooster

Guest


I rest his (Chook's) case.

2015-06-15T03:04:05+00:00

John Bucknell

Roar Rookie


Lol are you serious right now?? Roosters never or hardly get the the rub of the green..... go have a look at the penalty counts for the past few years and you'll retract your statement. obviously you have no idea on the stats, and you probably don't watch the roosters play much because if you did you would realize.

2015-06-15T02:32:52+00:00

Chook

Guest


Thought the wall was fine, no issues. The bigger problem is players leaving early for chargedown, happens every time in golden point and no ref has the stones to blow the whistle. Marker went well early on final play but turned out ok as Maloney was forced to run and led to the try. The BIG grievance was the pass from the deck for the Kata try immediately after half time. That's the 4th different interpretation of the held rule I've seen this year. Goodwin gets up & runs last week, try. Jennings gets up & runs a few weeks back, penalty. Croker gets up and runs a few weeks back, penalty. Hurrell obviously held and passes of the ground, play on. He was held by 2 players... Ridiculous!!!

2015-06-15T01:36:14+00:00

GTW

Guest


So the Roosters didn't get the rub of the green for once. No wonder you're complaining LilRedChook, you probably have never see that before.

2015-06-15T01:08:55+00:00

Alex L

Roar Rookie


If those were flat then so is Mount Kilimanjaro mate.

2015-06-15T01:01:52+00:00

stu

Guest


Don't forget the warriors were missing several (hoffman lillyman tomkins) with a further 2 ruled out through concussion during the game. Roosters had the rub of the green in the 2nd period which evened it out. I'm not going to be too hard on the warriors with the average age of the team on saturday being 24 years with only friend over 30. They will be better for the experience.

2015-06-15T00:52:39+00:00

littleredrooster

Guest


Yeah, sure...right...and there's a bloke in a red suit with reindeers...

2015-06-15T00:51:37+00:00

littleredrooster

Guest


FLAT son... "flat" passes..get it right!

AUTHOR

2015-06-15T00:31:10+00:00

Dan Eastwood

Expert


Nerval it was a headache because the referee had to rule on when the ball hit the ground, when the marker lifted his leg, whether the marker had a hand on the player playing the ball - could bring it back but geez the arguments ... it's all you'd hear about!

AUTHOR

2015-06-15T00:26:23+00:00

Dan Eastwood

Expert


Hi Littleredrooster, Yes Badge grew up in the South Sydney District but that doesn't make him a Souths supporter. You don't have to believe that, but when officials get to first grade level they haven't achieved that success because of any bias towards teams. For me it was always a case of two teams wearing different jerseys and that was it. As for the forward passes - the one that looked closest was the break in the middle of the park. If you slow it down you will see a 'hook pass' right to left to the trailing runner and live it looks forward, but his hand is always in front of the ball. I'm happy that call was right.

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