Moore’s marauders: Who dares, wins

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    The great Australian Test fast bowler Dennis Lillee, if he had bothered to watch the recent rugby Test, would have shaken his head in disgust at the Springboks.

    Lillee’s mantra was: “Never give a sucker an even break.”

    The Springboks stand accused of smugness, of believing the game was over before the fat lady had sung, to use a silly cliche.

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    There was Jannie du Plessis coming off early in the second half with a huge grin on his face.

    ‘This is child’s play,’ his smirk was saying, ‘a walk in the park.’ The Boks would pay dearly for their smugness.

    I’ve been following sport for nearly 50 years, and I’ve seen so many occasions where a team or individual just needed a lucky break to turn everything around for them.

    To give them much needed self-belief.

    Saturday evening, July 18, 2015, at the old Lang Park, Brisbane, was the lucky break for the Wallabies. Maybe also, for Australian rugby.

    Rather than talk about the team, I want to talk about some of the Wallabies as individuals.

    Stephen Moore. Gutsy captain’s call. Even if it hadn’t come off, it was brave and right for the moment. After your horrible season last year, you deserved a change of fortune.

    Who dares, wins.

    Michael Hooper. You shut me up. Your courage and commitment was outstanding. Many flaws remain in your game, but heart isn’t one of them.

    Israel Folau. Those Aussie football skills came in handy with so many high balls taken cleanly and bravely.

    Matt Giteau, Drew Mitchell, Quade Cooper, David Pocock, Greg Holmes. Welcome back to Test rugby. You all put in manfully.

    Nick Phipps. That’s the crispest, most confident and most fluent game, or half a game, I have ever seen you play.

    Matt Tomua. You attacked the gain line brilliantly when you came on as a replacement.

    James Horwill. Where have you been hiding? Your mate Rob Simmons also stepped up.

    This Test was both ugly and beautiful at the same time. But most importantly for Australia, sometimes you need a lucky break upon which to build your momentum.

    Congratulations Wallabies!

    A former rugby lock, cricket no.11 bat and no.10 bowler, and surfboat rower. A fan of the major team sports in Australia.

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    • Roar Rookie

      July 19th 2015 @ 3:00am
      NRC_Australia said | July 19th 2015 @ 3:00am | ! Report

      Quade put in? Nah…

      Everyone else, well done as you got the win for us!
      I watched at the pub with a saffer mate of mine-I said with 10 to go if we win this, I’ll be embarrassed as I didn’t think we played very well especially our breakdown work in the first half. That said the last 10 showed that we had the guts to do the job and restored my faith in the gold jersey. I still said to my mate they won the battles but lost the war-he was gutted…

      Ps Quade-loved your work a couple of years ago, but those kicks were awful!

      • Roar Guru

        July 19th 2015 @ 9:25am
        sheek said | July 19th 2015 @ 9:25am | ! Report

        Cooper certainly had a mixed game. But I reckon he was as nervous as hell. He’ll be better for the outing.

        Unless Skelton learns quickly to throw his weight around, he’s surplus to requirements. Size is meaningless unless you know how to use it.

        The Wallabies are a flawed team, no doubt about that. But sport is about developing a winning habit, & winning comes from self-belief.

        It’s amazing how many flaws you can hide when you have self-belief.

        • July 19th 2015 @ 7:21pm
          Akari said | July 19th 2015 @ 7:21pm | ! Report

          Good call, sheek. It’s useless being big and not being able to use one’s size to seize the moment. Skelton will learn and will bounce back. He is needed in the team and Cheika is likely to play him back into form.

    • Roar Guru

      July 19th 2015 @ 3:03am
      Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 3:03am | ! Report

      A great win. Take a bow, Sio & Hooper & Folau & Pocock.

      Biltong is too optimistic.

      • July 19th 2015 @ 3:14am
        Taylorman said | July 19th 2015 @ 3:14am | ! Report

        Boks should still have been able to keep oz off the line at the end Harry. All their SXV sides specialise in it an kurandrani shouldn’t even have got close at the end there.

        How are the injuries? aBs should be ready next week though I’m not sure who 10 will be.

        • Roar Guru

          July 19th 2015 @ 3:27am
          Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 3:27am | ! Report

          Yeah, should’ve piled up even more points when dominating pre-Pocock/Mohoje; unjurt to Vic is bad (4-6 weeks) but Coetzee’s isn’t bad. Good things: Pollard-de Allende-Kriel super-youth combo is OK on the road ag top tier. And the pack was awesome for 60:00.

          Bad: kicked 7 times too many; passed 75 times too few, preplanned subs stupid.

      • July 19th 2015 @ 11:50am
        superba said | July 19th 2015 @ 11:50am | ! Report

        Harry I need your help with this .It seems that the Boks had 4 captains .Matfield , then Bismarck followed by Pienaar .And who when he went off ? How does a team hope to win without one captain for 80mins ??Where was the leadership when Reinach came on ?

        • Roar Guru

          July 19th 2015 @ 2:03pm
          Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

          Burger.

        • July 19th 2015 @ 10:01pm
          etienne marais said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:01pm | ! Report

          Taylorman, Ruan Pienaar (the match-day vice captain) took over the captaincy in the 17th minute, as Matfield retired injured. Then, on Pienaar’s departure in the 67th minute, Schalk Burger assumed the leadership role from thereon onwards.

          • Roar Guru

            July 19th 2015 @ 10:07pm
            Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:07pm | ! Report

            Etienne, your post was better composed.

            Kriel might’ve got his WC ticket, hey?

            • July 19th 2015 @ 10:17pm
              etienne marais said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:17pm | ! Report

              Harry, what impressed me most, was his defensive performance in concert with de Allende and Pollard; well organised, intelligent, tight, but not over-aggressive. I got the impression that 12 and 13 took their defensive cues from 10. Yes, I think there has been some green ink added next to Kriel’s name (adding to that of 10 and 12). JdV, if healthy, will make a good replacement/impact contribution.

              My wife claims that I wept, just as Kriel went over the line for his try. I decided not to argue with her too much on that point.

              • Roar Guru

                July 19th 2015 @ 10:39pm
                Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:39pm | ! Report

                Yes! It was a beauty try.

                The fact that he can easily slot in at 15 or on the wing is a huge plus in a RWC.

                The good thing about this (gut wrenching) game is it actually did give us a good read on some of the issues.

                Bismarck definitely ahead of Strauss (last year, that wasn’t clear).

                Kriel & de Allende could be a combo. (The missed tackles by our 9-10-12-13 a problem, though).

                Lood looked good. Can get some game time while Vic is out.

                Mohoje … no. Bring in the OTHER Kriel!

              • July 20th 2015 @ 12:46am
                etienne marais said | July 20th 2015 @ 12:46am | ! Report

                Yes Harry, it is fantastic to see a youngster live up to the latent talent that one sees promised. He will still make mistakes and there will be games where his performances might be less convincing, bet he is the real deal, particularly with his utility value.

                There are many positives to take out of the game. We always knew these months before the start of RWC was going to be difficult and that the machine will not be built and tested overnight. I took the conscious decision, already during the latter stages of SR, to manage my own expectations. The answers will come…

                Yes, and Bismarck can kick too. Not well. But better than Adriaan. šŸ˜‰

                I think the tackle figures look a little worse than the defensive result actually suggest, possibly because some slipped tackles were part of dual attempts where the first tackler misses, but due to their proximate defensive pattern, the second tackler puts the man down. But yes, we need to see some improvement there.

                Lood was very good, particularly in defence, where he tackled like a demon. I don’t think he lost any ball on our lineouts, but he also did not contest that well on their ball; an element of the game that has always been, and must remain a hallmark for us. So, he is part of the answer at 5, but not the entire answer.

                I was desperately hoping that Mohoje would have a good game and shape well; for more reasons than just the obvious. I’m afraid that his performance yesterday was not even good enough for SR level. Sad, but true.

                Would love to see J. Kriel in green and gold, but not sure that his inclusion would be optimal. In my view, the player that we missed most yesterday is Thor. His strong driving ability, speed to the ball, retention and pilfering capabilities, all in one package, and then combined with being such a solid and reliable option in the lineout, is missing in our game. With both Thor and Alberts in doubt, I think the immediate need is for another bruiser to be included in the squad (at least the wider squad). In my view, that player should be Jacques Potgieter. He does not bring all of the missing elements, but he does bring many of them. So, although I am a massive fan of Kriel, and I have no doubt that he will make us proud in the Bok jersey, I will suggest that Jackpot is the more appropriate resource to bring in right now. (There’s Jacques du Plessis and Pierre Spies as well, but I think in a game like yesterday’s they would not have had the necessary impact when brough on.)

                Interesting week ahead; I hear HM and the Doc are bullish on Matfield’s and Coetzee’s injuries.

              • Roar Guru

                July 20th 2015 @ 1:04am
                Harry Jones said | July 20th 2015 @ 1:04am | ! Report

                Yes, looks like both Coetzee and Vic are going to be fine for ARG game, at least. Hearing good things about Vermeulen’s post-surgery and JdV played 60:00 for WP. We are best when underdogs. Could be good.

                Not sure about J Kriel’s power in the carry at test level until we see it. Could be more of a Coetzee type than an Alberts/JPot bruiser.

              • July 20th 2015 @ 1:24am
                AndyS said | July 20th 2015 @ 1:24am | ! Report

                Particularly good news about Coetzee. The way he was carried into the sheds, it looked like they could stick a fork on him.

              • July 20th 2015 @ 1:26am
                etienne marais said | July 20th 2015 @ 1:26am | ! Report

                I think your instincts are right there, Harrry. Just from memory, I recall Jaco Kriel’s big carries, where he ran over players, to mostly have been against flyhalves, centres and wings. This is not to diminish his accomplishments, just to indicate that on attack he is essentially a wider player, superfast, with a good eye for space as well. Indeed, more like Coetzee.

      • July 19th 2015 @ 1:07pm
        Grahame said | July 19th 2015 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

        “Biltong is too optimistic.”

        Maybe you too Harry, with your win by 8 prediction. But I think you both deserved to be optimistic, if it wasn’t for the coach. Frankly I think the Springboks lost this game through poor or unnecessary replacement management and stupid kick-it-away tactics and silly turn-over mistakes in the dying minutes of the game when a win could have been protected.

        • Roar Guru

          July 19th 2015 @ 2:05pm
          Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 2:05pm | ! Report

          At 60:00, I was liking my SA by 8 tip. But we decided to kick when we should have kept ball in hand; then try to run phases when all we needed to do was kick it out.

    • Roar Guru

      July 19th 2015 @ 4:53am
      Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 4:53am | ! Report

      Nice essay, Sheek

      • Roar Guru

        July 19th 2015 @ 9:26am
        sheek said | July 19th 2015 @ 9:26am | ! Report

        Thanks Harry,

        I tried to look at it a bit differently from how I thought the normal reporting would go.

      • July 19th 2015 @ 10:42pm
        Vic said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:42pm | ! Report

        Can’t agree that the Bokke were smug – much as I’m not a Jannie fan , he wasn’t responsible for the coach’s decision to substitute, nor were the other players. And we don’t know what the coach was trying to achieve by substituting. If he thought we had it in the bag, and therefor he substituted, he was silly and smug. If he just used the opportunity to test his newbie combinations, he was heartless but not necessarily smug. And we can all see old Heyneke isn’t heartless………..
        At least the first 60 worked. The last 20 didn’t. Now the coach knows, and will have go work on plan C and D.
        Having said all that, the Aussies played well, and tenaciously. Deserved win. Tree lovers can be great sportsmen too šŸ˜‰

        • Roar Guru

          July 19th 2015 @ 10:48pm
          Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 10:48pm | ! Report

          Great post, Vic.

          What do you think about Burger at 8?

          • July 19th 2015 @ 11:22pm
            Vic said | July 19th 2015 @ 11:22pm | ! Report

            Mate, I’ve been worried about Burger ever since his comeback after his illness, but he is such a great old workhorse. Lots of tackles, forced turnovers, and lasted the full 80! At least we don’t have to worry about 8, Duane and Schalk can substitute easily. 5, on the other hand, is a black hole….

            • Roar Guru

              July 19th 2015 @ 11:38pm
              Harry Jones said | July 19th 2015 @ 11:38pm | ! Report

              Lood wasn’t bad.
              Wish Meyer had groomed a young 5 in addition to him

        • July 20th 2015 @ 12:48am
          etienne marais said | July 20th 2015 @ 12:48am | ! Report

          Exactly right on all points. Including the last one.

    • July 19th 2015 @ 5:02am
      Taylorman said | July 19th 2015 @ 5:02am | ! Report

      Yes well said Sheek. Confidence back yet? Certainly agree it was a who dares wins efforts though you probably don’t want to be having to that to get a win every time, but credit due, I thought the Boks had too much across the board, but no one figured on the Wallaby heart to never say die…and a really fun game bar a weird quiet period through the second half.

    • July 19th 2015 @ 5:11am
      etienne marais said | July 19th 2015 @ 5:11am | ! Report

      Well done Wallabies, you were worthy victors! Great performance, and welcome back in WRC contention. Not to anybody’s exclusion, but Stephen Moore is a true warrior.

      • July 19th 2015 @ 6:31am
        Taylorman said | July 19th 2015 @ 6:31am | ! Report

        Yes and I think he’s proved his captains credentials, hooper really needing to focus on his game, and the logistics of having Pocock around, on or off the field.

    • Columnist

      July 19th 2015 @ 6:29am
      Geoff Parkes said | July 19th 2015 @ 6:29am | ! Report

      Nice work Sheek, putting pen to paper so quickly, motivated no doubt by a side which deserved everything they got in the finish.

      • Roar Guru

        July 19th 2015 @ 9:30am
        sheek said | July 19th 2015 @ 9:30am | ! Report

        Allanthus,

        Originally I was going to “stay away.”

        But with the Lilllee mantra buzzing around in my head, I knew I had an angle slightly different from what most reports would be.

        There’s no doubt that the Boks have given the Wallabies a free ride the rest of the rugby world won’t appreciate – they have given these ‘suckers’ an even break.

        Cheika has done good things, but this win couldn’t have been encapsulated in several 1000 words from him. The momentum this win has given the team is priceless.

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