A case of the Bleus: What has happened to France?

By Chinmay Hejmadi / Roar Guru

The World Cup semi-finals roll out this weekend, and France will not be a part of them. This has only happened once before, in 1991. Incidentally, the Wallabies became World Champions at the end of that tournament. But I digress.

It’s astonishing how consistent France have been at World Cups. Funnily enough, before last weekend’s ouster at the hands of New Zealand, their record of reaching semi-finals at World Cups was bettered only by their vanquishers at Cardiff (the Wallabies and Springboks had failed to reach the semis twice, England thrice).

France have reached three finals, which is also a record, albeit one that looks set to be broken (unless we see a South Africa versus Argentina final).

Clearly, France are a venerable rugby nation. Their fans love their rugby, and over the years, Les Bleus have provided us with many cherished moments, scoring some scintillating tries that earned their play the epithet of ‘French flair’.

Unfortunately, this French flair seems dead today, and it was particularly galling to see the coup de grace delivered this past weekend with plays that were normally associated with French teams of yesteryear. France have gone from a team that would not be afraid to take on the All Blacks to a team that struggles to grind out a victory against Scotland.

And how sad it was that the man who oversaw these last few shambolic years was one of French rugby’s greatest sons – Philippe Saint-Andre. He was a swashbuckling winger in the ’90s, and is France’s third-highest try scorer, with 32 Test tries.

Unfortunately, his reputation has been marred by his spell as head coach of the national team, a spell that was nothing short of disastrous.

France reached the World Cup final in 2011, so expectations were naturally high for the 2012 Six Nations. Although most pundits exercised caution, citing French unpredictability, Les Bleus had been Grand Slam winners just two seasons prior to that.

What followed was an underwhelming six weeks of rugby, with victories over Italy and Scotland followed by a draw against Ireland, in a match that was postponed by a week, and defeats to England and Wales – the latter being the kind of tame performance that would characterise Saint-Andre’s tenure.

This was the routine for France over the last four years, as they finished fourth in three out of four Six Nations, while 2013 was even more ignominious as they won the wooden spoon.

Ireland also finished joint bottom in that year’s tournament, but oh how contrasting have their fortunes been in the two years since.

The records speak for themselves – Saint-Andre failed to register a single victory against Wales or Ireland. Not one. Wales have beaten them four times in a row, a feat that hasn’t been achieved for a long time. Ireland’s winning streak stands at three, while two draws preceded that. These were teams that couldn’t buy a win against France before, and now the tables have turned almost entirely.

France have only beaten England once, got four hard-fought wins over Scotland, plus one defeat to Italy for good measure. Two home wins over Australia stand out, but those were sadly false dawns. No victories over New Zealand or South Africa, while against Argentina their win percentage stands at 50 per cent.

Overall Saint-Andre managed to win only 20 of 45 Test matches. Hard to swallow for a French fan.

However, France’s problems were evident before Saint-Andre. Marc Lievremont took the French coaching job in 2007 and enjoyed one purple patch in 2009-10 which included wins over New Zealand in New Zealand (the last time that’s ever occurred), a victory over the Tri-Nations champions South Africa, and the aforementioned Six Nations Grand Slam.

What followed was a 59-16 defeat to Australia in late 2010, an uninspired defence of their Six Nations crown in 2011 which included a defeat to Italy, and a World Cup defeat to Tonga followed by a player revolt.

That they managed to reach the final and nearly win it was testament to the fortitude of the players they had at that time, the likes of William Servat, Julien Bonnaire and Imanol Harinordoquy, not to forget captain Thierry Dusautoir.

So what has caused this rapid decline in the fortunes of Les Bleus?

First things first, Saint-Andre was woefully out of his depth, let’s get that out of the way. His team selections were odd, he detested playing Francois Trinh-Duc for some reason, selecting a whole host of inept fly-halves, along with repeatedly keeping the faith with Freddie Michalak even though Michalak hadn’t really done anything to earn his trust.

He also only had one style of play – bash it up. Remember when I said French flair is dead? This could be summed up in two words: Mathieu Bastareaud. Now, the Toulon outside centre is actually a pretty skilful player, but France’s preoccupation with physicality blunted the other aspects of his play, and also restricted his inside partner Wesley Fofana, a truly outstanding talent, from fully flourishing.

There was so much talk about French unpredictability, but the truth is that France have turned into the most one-dimensional and predictable team in world rugby. Their last two defeats – against Ireland and New Zealand – were always coming, and anyone who thought that they could win either of those two matches had either not followed France for the last four years, or were delusional.

Plus, somewhat worryingly, it seemed that this group of players couldn’t care less. For many of these last four Six Nations campaigns, France have looked devoid of hunger and passion. On the few occasions they have attempted to channel their inner passion and love for the jersey, any semblance of a gameplan flew out the window – especially their defensive discipline. The Six Nations finale against Ireland in 2014 and last weekend’s quarter-final are but two examples of France playing with passion but no plan. Headless chickens – or should I say roosters?

Is it that France just don’t have the personnel any more? Out of the team that started against New Zealand, how many could truly be classified as world-class players? Among the backs, perhaps Fofana, maybe Morgan Parra a few years ago, maybe Bastareaud but that’s debatable. I really like Brice Dulin, and he was okay against the All Blacks, but when I suggested that on a French Facebook post, somebody commented, “c’etait une blague, non?

Among the forwards, only Louis Picamoles and Thierry Dusautoir could be classified as world class – but Dusautoir, like Dmitri Szarzewski and Nicolas Mas, is a relic from a bygone era, the last monument of the French heyday.

Another thing that should be noted is the decline of Stade Toulousain. Once a French superpower, Toulouse hold the record for the most European Cups, along with the most French Championships. However, of late they have barely threatened to add to their massive trophy cabinet, and their representation in the French national team (they used to provide most of the starting XV once) has dwindled correspondingly. Now their long-serving head coach, Guy Noves, has been appointed as coach of the national team. Go figure.

But let’s address the elephant in the room – the Top 14. The domestic league’s growth in the last few years, especially the influx of foreign players, has been a contributor to the national team’s decline. The galactico squads of Racing, Stade Francais, and especially Toulon have not only suppressed the French players in the league, but also suppressed the national team as a whole. Why would you, as a club owner, invest in local youth if you can just wave a wad of cash at an ageing superstar looking for one last payday?

It has resulted in several players becoming naturalised Frenchmen and donning the French jersey. The morals of this I shall not get into, but it is clear that the results have been less than extraordinary. Again, what can you do as a coach if the best halfback in your country is a foreigner? Just select him. But what if the said halfback is actually average when compared to world standards? You can’t do anything, because there isn’t any alternative, since local talent just isn’t being allowed to flourish.

There is a discord between the clubs and the national team. The clubs obviously work in their own interest, and don’t care a tuppence about Les Bleus, and the FFR cannot really do a thing about it. The national team, and its supporters, have to suffer the consequences. It is a plight not unheard of – as across the Channel, the English Premier League is becoming a similar problem for England’s national football team.

This sort of disunity does not occur in the southern hemisphere, as the Super Rugby franchises work in cooperation with the respective national rugby unions. This year, each of the Super Rugby sides rested their international players at times in the season to avoid risking burnout, while over in England, English internationals are playing in the premiership just two weeks after being knocked out of the World Cup.

Plus, the European rugby season is long and gruelling. Saint-Andre made this point too, after the defeat, citing the long season as one of the factors in their defeat. Super Rugby lasts only 16 regular-season matches, plus three finals at the most. A French Top 14 team could play as many as 40 matches in a season, including European commitments. The contrast in results between the respective national teams are there for all to see.

So is there a way up for French rugby? On the face of things, the road to recovery seems long and painful, as France’s problems are more deep seated than others, and there isn’t really a quick fix. There just aren’t enough world-class players to keep the French afloat. I can’t see them snapping their losing run against either Wales or Ireland next season, but at least they won’t have a coach who is out of his depth like the last one.

Noves is an incredibly experienced coach, with considerable tactical acumen, and the only fear I have is that these last few seasons with Toulouse aren’t indicative of the fact that he’s lost his mojo. He may steady the ship, but to make the French the kings rugby again, he needs time, and a lot of things to go his way.

As an admirer of French rugby, one can only hope that the French return to their halcyon days sooner or later, because world rugby needs that bit of Gallic flair that has been so invisible for the past few years.

The Crowd Says:

2015-10-27T08:49:59+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Toulon is buit on a rugged terrain, the people will smile to ur face and plant a knife in ur back at the same time and this area plays rugged rugby. If they are behind with 10 minutes to go, you can expect a cop out 95% of the time. No excuses though and a deplorable attitude from the families.

2015-10-26T11:15:21+00:00

Stephen Martin

Guest


They were both from the South East. The club was Brignolles, near Toulon, not sure about the province - may not have been a traditional rugby region as they were much weaker than the other province. To be fair we had taken the boys to both Paris and Pau when they were much younger, and had no trouble, and didn't hear of any for our older players.

2015-10-26T06:08:49+00:00

In Brief

Guest


I don't think that's entirely accurate. You see many occasions in Top 14 when teams cannot take advantage of overlaps, don't take advantage of space, and look for contact first. If you think of some of the French Flair teams with guys like Phillipe Sella and Frank Mesnel in the centres, than you are talking about very professional rugby players. These guys played with incredible accuracy and skill. Some of the switch moves they put on were almost works of art. While the defences were not as strong as today, they weren't just playing against 'golf' players either. I remember Sella almost single handedly beating the All Blacks in NZ - he was literally at the bottom of each and every ruck and maul! So something has been lost in my view.

2015-10-26T06:03:10+00:00

In Brief

Guest


Very true, France has been instrumental in setting up all the structures and competitions throughout Europe via FIRA for many years (I think they may now be part or IRB) and throughout much of Africa. That's before we even mention the professional opportunities in the Top 14.

2015-10-26T02:08:42+00:00

ScotandProud

Guest


The Top 14 is the main culprit. They don't have the players to pick from. It used to be players like Rouge Thomas being (a pretty useful) one season wonder.. Lescaboura coming out of retirement, proving too strong for the Grand Slam hopeful Wales in 88. Didier Camberobero gaining confidence in 89/90 after a couple of ops. These are your 'filler' 'bums' that the Top 14 can 'do without' these days. Haskell played in the Top 14 for one of the best sides. Haskell. The definition of rubbish. And yes you can all go on about the fact he played in S15 as well if you like. Players like him and Tanaka are/ were the exception and not the rule. Don't think many local fans thought much of Haskell or Cipriani when they played in S15 though.. France is now woeful in so many positions, no. 10 being one of them. And here we go below with people saying that the cash rich foreigner dominated English Soccer Premier League ISN"T responsible for the woes of the national team. Delusional. Peter Beardsley would never never have made it in today's game, never have grown into what he became. An uncharismatic player who worked his arse off but who would never have got near to first team football in a big club these days. Some import would have taken his place long before. Even the likes of Chris Waddle, Stuart Pearce wouldn't have got the game time. For them it was survive, thrive or die. They survived, they thrived.. they had to. Now its just a bunch of little gimps withering on the vine playing bit parts in their club squads. The England team that just lost in Mexico QF to the winners in 86, in 70 who made the semis in 90 - despite having been banned from European competition for years - would never have taken shape in the modern EPL. Yes its the top 14 thats responsible. there are other factors. The top 14 is the big one.

2015-10-25T22:44:07+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Glenn, a difference between club and national squad is important to underline in english football. The English FA did not take the world cup seriously for a long time as they were of the thought that the English natiomal team was superior to the rest and they took it as an insult to play in a world cup to prove that. It is well documented and in some world cups pre 1950 they did not even turn up. In 62 they seriously went to sweden and got a bit of a reality check. So they organized 66 and made sure they were gonna win it. So between 34 and 66 when italy, uruguay and brazil baged 2 each, England was yawning. Since they ve had the epl there are that many foreign players in england playing in EPL and first division thst the english guys dont get a gernsey. Same with the top 14 in france.

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2015-10-25T19:24:42+00:00

Chinmay Hejmadi

Roar Guru


I don't think the argument is that foreign players weaken the league. Of course having players of international standard helps youngsters as they learn from the experienced heads. But when your first choice player is a foreigner, and his replacement will also be a foreign import, and your local talent just doesn't get a chance to flourish, that's when the problem starts. That's what's happening with England in football and that's what's happening with France in rugby now. Oh, and btw, look at Spain's Euro 2008 winning squad which was the basis for their dominance of world football. And look at La Liga back then. It wasn't dominated by foreigners. It's the domination of the league by foreigners that is harmful in our opinion.

2015-10-25T14:23:30+00:00

Glenn Innes

Guest


Why do people keep running with this idiotic argument that foreign players in the EPL weaken the English soccer team.England won one world cup in 1966 when it was held in England. Post World War two international Soccer has been dominated by Germany, Brazil, Argentina and Italy.England have never been a superpower of world football., The idea they would be stronger if the premier league was of a lower standard and less financially robust (which it would be if you capped foreign players) is laughable, What having more local bums who would not be good enough to be there if foreign players could be hired and lowering the quality and prestige and financial health of the elite domestic League would improve the National team, laughable. Without the foreign players the French top 14 would be of much lower quality, the extra French players would be "filler" bums who are nothing like international standard. the Rugby would be of a much lower standard, the crowds would be smaller, the sport poorer and the national team weaker.Isolating themselves will get them nowhere fast .

2015-10-25T14:11:13+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


Glasgow has plenty of Scottish players and more coming through due to Townsend's coaching. They've played some superb stuff even with the amount of internationals away at the moment. Edinburgh only really changed since Alan Solomons came in and hired a load of Saffers. One of the reasons why Laidlaw left.

2015-10-25T08:33:52+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Stephen, May i ask what was the french provincial side prefering kick boxing to playing? Reminded me when i was a colt (160 years ago) and you knew that some geographic areas were going to give it to you if they were behind the score 15 min before the final whilstle. Am thinking particularly of the bezier, Albi, Agen and Toulon districts.

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2015-10-25T07:11:41+00:00

Chinmay Hejmadi

Roar Guru


Well he'll be better than PSA in any case. And as a Toulouse fan, I know what he brings to the table. But there's a bit of pessimism surrounding France right now, and like you said, will he be allowed to bring the necessary changes in the long term, who knows?

2015-10-25T03:56:32+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Bakkies, that s actually 3 coaches as Bernard Laporte in 07 had been appointed Sport Minister by Nicolas Sarkhozy before he started the RWC. This time they have Guy Noves who is older but a reformer and has a view about how the game should be played. Not sure how long he s been signed for but the longer he stays and the longer the reform can be implemented including a national coaching agenda. Chimnay questioned his appoitment but to me he is the man for the job if he is allowed to make a broad range of changes long term.

2015-10-25T03:41:24+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


He is so emotional about it that when he s got the ball he forget to pass it (i am not a fan of the guy, good player but should not play in this team )

2015-10-25T03:33:15+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Ta Chinmay. Once people get to realize the psychology of the country and the love hate relationship between France anf England actually spreads into an inferiority complex and i would go as far as saying that in decision making circles the French are frustrated English, then it makes it helps to understand why things are where they are at. And they are too proud to consider how things are done in the southern hemisphere.

2015-10-25T03:12:23+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Thanks for the article Chinmay. Whilst it was a big margin loss, France isn't the first or the last tier 1 nation to be soundly defeated by AB In any case, good pointers, thanks for sharing. Seems France has a lot to work on. But the upside is worth it.

2015-10-25T00:53:23+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


Sadly, you're completely right Stephen. What you describe happens every w-e in French rugby in all age groups. Some educators and coaches and even supporters lets not kid ourselves encourage violence on the pitch, there is no other word. The 'all in' thing or 'generale' as its called over there is strategic if I may say: we were told that if we all join in (or at least the whole pack) the ref isn't going to red card 15 players. There may be a couple of yellows on both sides, one red perhaps, but nothing more. The home crowd often shouts the number of the player who has, in their eyes, infringed so that he gets singled out and dealt with at the next occasion, usually a ruck, scrum or even completely outside play. I know it has changed at pro level in recent years but from what I see and read online violence is still very present at amateur/kids level.

2015-10-24T16:54:22+00:00

AndyS

Guest


Perhaps, but my point was that the Top 14 is the equivalent of the ITMC. Comparisons with Super Rugby are specious, as that equates to the ERCC. How many French players in the six teams contesting that, compared to South Africans playing Super Rugby?

2015-10-24T14:11:14+00:00

Stephen Martin

Guest


On violence, I coached my son's team in London until last year. As they got older, you would see the odd squaring-up between players, but nothing more, and the coaches always took the boys to task afterwards. Last year we took them to a tournament in Italy as Under 15s as a last hurrah before the group broke up. We played three French sides, two provincial selections and a club side. One of the provincial sides was fantastic and beat us easily in great style. The other games were very close (won one, lost one) and towards the end of the games the French opposition became very violent. In both matches, small flash points provoked the French players to attack all of our players, and even had the subs running on to join in, to the astonishment of our players who had never experienced this before. The French coaches did nothing to restrain their players, and with the exception of one mother who ran on to slap her son, neither did their parents. 14 year old boys would only behave like this with the encouragement of their coaches. That it was clearly within the ethos of the clubs was proved by the angry reaction of the club president when we wrote a formal letter of complaint to one afterwards. In his view, fights only happen when both teams want it - which was not the case at all - and that they didn't need or want any advice from foreigners on how to run their club. I can't imagine why any parents would put their sons in the care of people like him. As it happens, the Italians were fine to us, a pleasure to play.

2015-10-24T14:08:33+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


No. In the Top 14 there are about 280 French players. Then there is the next level which is the Pro D2 which has about another 400 French players playing in a national club comp. Thats about 680 positions at the professional level for French players at least.

2015-10-24T13:40:06+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Gee you and Hog share the same...'thoughts'.

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