Nadolo, Emery face rugby judicial hearings

Yes I noticed Watson was also suspended for abusive language but I can’t find any significant detail regarding the judicial decision on the foul play. As I said I can only assume the English Premiership plays under the same regulations as SANZAAR. Reg. 17 covers rugby world wide so I would doubt very much if they have a different set of sanctions. The LE entry for this offence is 3 weeks. As you say some others are 2 weeks. I recall the Brown and Mogg incidents. There maybe a degree of leniency up north as you suggest when compared to how SANZAAR handles these incidents. All I can say is that this should not be the case.

Nothing profound at all Andy. Just basic common sense. No need for anything to be written in a book. It's all covered in WR regulation 17 and all the citings and findings are covered in press releases. It's all public information freely available. You could maybe study the process in closer detail and possibly gain an understanding of it or you can continue with the much easier approach of simply bagging it.

The profound insights you supply... "all those other tacklers are not fine. They are on notice...goes for coaches as well who after all are responsible for coaching these players" that the "message is don’t engage in foul play and don’t act carelessly and recklessly that might result in injury to opponents." Spectacular stuff, WR should probably write that down in a book somewhere and make sure everyone reads it. Just a shame they don't actually apply it with any great consistency.

Andy. Pray tell me - what rrrrr you on about.

So then, less those players put on notice and more a general message of the bleeding obvious. The sort of warning that really only makes the warner feel like they have some semblance of control, without actually instructing. I think you are confusing that with mandatory punishment....if there is actually a message to it, it is that it is simply better not to commit to the ball and for Gods sake don't be unlucky. Any other messages that need to be reiterated to the players...maybe don't knock on or fall over otherwise you might get dropped? And coaches too - maybe don't train them to be clumsy...?

well , apparently he was also first charged with abusing the 4th official. then for some reason the 4th official had given evidence and said that he believed the foul language was not directed at him. if u read the planet rugby report it goes omn to say what the charges are - as per the Laws. ( sorry i did not bother to chk what those charges are ). what is interesting to me is that there seems to be a collective lax attitude towards punishments from the english union , in general. for example - when marlor gate happened , they said the players apology to affected party was sufficient. then world rugby took it upon themselves to re charge marlor and then ban him as well as fine him. in watson's case it is interesting he ended with just 2 weeks for 2 offenses. so does it mean , there are different LAW books as far as punishment goes? i thought for any misdemeanor, the minimum was 2 weeks at entry level. also do not forget , Brown got away with kicking at the ball/ head of a player ( and repeatedly ). haskell got away twice with tackling a player in air , without even a card ion the field. now , quite a few people here are wondering if a red was merited for emery ( yes definitely). my issue is , there is no understanding of what deserves a card and what shud the punishment be among differnt people from different places. btw, i wonder if u saw the car crash jessie mogg was in - when montpelier played chiefs , like 2 -3 weeks back. that was worse than emery wlr !!!

Sorry Andy - you are all over the place. The message is don’t engage in foul play and don’t act carelessly and recklessly that might result in injury to opponents. If you do there is a good chance you will be noticed and a good chance you will be suspended. Is every act of foul play noticed? No. Is the system perfect? No. Show me one that is. But the citing procedure is far from a “disorganised and inconsistent shambles” as you put it. It is quite a straight forward concise process if you take the time to study it.

Have viewed the clip. It appears quite similar to the Emery incident. If anything I think Watson had more of an opportunity to bail out but there was less of a car crash for want of better words. I can only assume the English Premiership plays under the same regulations as SANZAAR so I have no idea why he would only receive 1 week suspension. If as the report says he has been charged with the same offence as Emery then it does not quite add up. LE entry = 3 weeks Max deduction for mitigating factors is 50% = 1.5 weeks 3 - 1.5 = 1.5 weeks. Maybe rounded down as opposed to being rounded up. Who would know?

It happens occasionally with me as well. And I think what did I do wrong. But then after the moderator has cleared it its all good.

this is all planet rugby reported. interestingly the judicial verdict is not detailed as in the case of emery . http://www.planetrugby.com/news/watson-handed-two-week-suspension/

They are all on notice now. But that is meaningless if there was no intent and it was nothing but luck that that those other instances didn't similarly go badly. So they must have meant it, otherwise the warning is just meaningless motherhood noise only actionable by advising all players to never challenge for the high ball in case their timing might be even slightly off.

You're most probably right CG except, the same word, didn't flick the buzzer, in P2's post.....its hiss now but thx, for the heads-up anyway.

"So you presuppose that every instance is intentional then"? I said that where?

no can't explain that but will try and track it down and have a look-see.

yes 2 weeks + 1 week - 1 week = 2.

OB I may be wrong but I think there are probably some words that automatically flick the buzzer if you like. There maybe was one or two words in your post that did just that... the "R" word maybe?

Why is my comment being moderated when I am merely responding to P2's unwelcome comments of my integrity??

Never in my life have I been accused of sounding racist. In fact, I didn't consider a village as ever having racist connotations especially since, my own cultural heritage notates a "pa", as a fortified village. I'm afraid you are barking up at the wrong tree and I suggest, the next time you care to engage in discussions, then at least, do so after you've researched, the subject matter, intended for discussion. Just as an aside - did you believe that Marler was looking at the ball when he committed his indiscretion?? It certainly didn't look like he was hence I suggest his act was neither foolish or stupid but more inclined to be malicious intention. He kicked out at a player who was lying prone on the field.....a cowardly act of the first kind. Whereas I believe that Emery had his eyes fixed firmly on the flight of the ball when he collided with Le Roux and that in my books was both stupid and dumb. His actions of not watching his immediate surrounds, placed himself and Le Roux, in a very dangerous situation - he should've been looking at play around him before committing to a collision. It was dumb of him to think that Le Roux would not attack, the high ball with a leaping catch because, it is one of the first actions that a rugby player, learns to perform.....apart from passing the ball and tackling. Btw, it seems the judiciary and I, are on the same wavelength since Emery, has just received a 4week stand-down.

a week off for clean record wasnt it?

i wonder how many people have already heard of this !!! http://www.planetrugby.com/news/self-imposed-isolation-for-sa-sports/ Self-imposed isolation for SA Rugby