By the numbers: Is the Verstappen experiment a failure?

By Rodney Gordon / Expert

Taken at face value the decision to drop Daniil Kvyat and promoting Max Verstappen in the senior Red Bull team was a masterstroke, with the added bonus of bringing tens of thousands of Dutch nationals to the recent Belgian Grand Prix.

But apart from a flukey victory in his first race, has the move really paid off?

Here’s the case both for and against so that you can make up your own mind…

Lies, damn lies and statistics
Verstappen has attracted his fair share of criticism for his questionable defensive moves in recent times, although it’s worth remembering that Kvyat had multiple issues with the Ferraris – sometimes in a single race.

The pro-Kvyat camp however has hard numbers on it’s side. Boffins on the incredibly popular Reddit forums have crunched the numbers, and like most data sets you can make them say anything you want.

Still, for what it’s worth, here’s how both drivers stack up compared to teammate Daniel Ricciardo. In races where both cars finished, Kvyat pushed Ricciardo to an almost 50/50 split with the results falling 8-9 in Daniel’s favour, while Verstappen is trailing 4-6 in the head to head.

Ricciardo’s class in qualifying truly shines, but again Kvyat performed slightly better than Verstappen taking Saturday honours 30 per cent of the time compared to Max’s 20 per cent.

When it comes to percentage of points scored by comparison to their Red Bull teammate there’s barely anything splitting the two, however once again Kvyat claiming the upper hand scoring 90.6 per cent of his partner’s total (116 points versus 128 for Ricciardo) while Verstappen has a respectable 86.4 per cent comparative scoring rate (108 points versus 125 for Ricciardo).

So on paper, if nowhere else, it appears that either Kvyat wasn’t too shabby after all or Verstappen has severely underperformed since arriving at the Paris end of the pitlane.

You’ll go mad trying to establish a hierachy of dominance within Red Bull and Toro Rosso at the moment. Carlos Sainz held his own against Verstappen when they were teammates, but just as Ricciardo has a clear advantage over Verstappen, Sainz has convincingly dominated Kvyat who seems so depressed that he’s very likely lost the will to dress or feed himself, let alone race a Formula Onecar.

It’s also worth remembering, and if you read this column regularly you’ll notice I take every opportunity to point it out, Kvyat finished ahead of Ricciardo last season mostly because Red Bull were testing improvements for this year’s package and needed the known quantity and sure hand of Ricciardo for data integrity.

There’s also two primary stats that count against Kvyat.

Firstly, Verstappen has achieved the only thing Red Bull seems that value: records. As the youngest driver to win an Formula One race he’s clearly on his way.

More importantly, apart from a few wayward races (don’t mention Monaco) and doubtful defending moves, Verstappen has delivered consistently while also pushing Ricciardo harder than Kvyat ever could. Although Ricciardo has largely kept Verstappen in check, as a pair they have shepherded Red Bull into second in the constructors’ championship, which is as good as they non-Mercedes runners can hope for this year.

So perhaps Red Bull reserve driver Pierre Gasly mispoke when he said he’d be sitting in Kvyat’s seat for Singapore, or that he’d be testing the car in Practice 1, or some other bizzaro third option remains to be seen. Either way, on form you’d have to suggest that Kvyat’s Formula One career is as good as finished.

With Felipe Massa confirming that he’s leaving Formula 1, I’d be stunned if Kvyat landed the drive at Williams – even though I claimed earlier this year that it would be the most logical move for both parties.

For what it’s worth, I maintain that it was a good idea at the time. I can show you the data to prove it.

The Crowd Says:

2017-05-12T17:17:16+00:00

Forml VerRic

Guest


Strange behavior I think when people downsize the qualities of one driver based on sentiment or even sheer nationalism. I think both RIC and VER are GREAT drivers and potentially can become worldchampion F1 one day. Let them race and let time decide who is the better racer of these guys!

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:24:55+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


Yeah, and wierdly Kvyat has come out this week and said the pressure this year has been over the top - you have to wonder if he would have help up in a tense championship battle if that's the case.

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:23:43+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


I don't really agree judgements made on a small number of races are somehow invalid. Judging someone on ten races, or five races or even 1 race doesn't really matter, so long as it's clear that it's based on the limited data set.

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:21:06+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


Yeah, I pointed that out in the article

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:20:41+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


When the numbers come in I certainly will make a revised judgement

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:19:50+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


As i've pointed out in other "comedy posts", Verstappen is still developing and could develop into an even more talented driver or one that makes even more mistakes and poorly judged moves. I'm hoping he grows in positive directions and becomes a superstar, of-course.

AUTHOR

2016-09-15T04:17:57+00:00

Rodney Gordon

Expert


Numbers clearly do mean SOMETHING, but it's interesting that Kvyat was closer than people think.

2016-09-13T23:40:26+00:00

Rogue

Guest


Nonsense. You can compare all the numbers you can collect, it doesn't mean anything. At all. What's clear to see for anyone who loves F1 and has been watching it for some time is Verstappen's rare racing instinct, car control and fighting spirit got him the promotion to RB. The same characteristics that got him to F1 in the first place, despite being beaten by Ocon in the championship. And that Sainz is a good boy, will deliver some steady points but will never be a world champion as long as drivers like Verstappen, Ricciardo and Hamilton are around. You can see he couldn't handle the pressure of Verstappen and now performs comfortably with a team mate down and out. And Kvyat, he's not just been demoted but demolished. He knows now, he's no longer a promising talent. No one believes he will be seen as championship material ever again, including himself probably. Like I said, you can compare any numbers you like, but the great thing about sport is that it's never an addition of digits. It's instinct, circumstances, pacts, politics, heat, pressure, emotion and control and a whole lot more ingredients that can not be measured.

2016-09-13T18:27:03+00:00

Thedude

Guest


I haven't read a comedy post like this in a long time. And it's not the first time you tried to downtalk Verstappen. If you are really neutral the only thing you can conclude is that Verstappen is closing and closing on RIC in Qualy and arguably already better than him in Races... The boy is 18 years old and already at this lvl. By the end of the season he'll be completely murdering your honeybadger left and right!

2016-09-13T17:30:49+00:00

Teddos

Guest


You call it an experiment? By doing so you're disqualifying the experts at Red Bull. For sure a lot of thought must have been put into it. One doesn't just write off Kvyat (which isn't the case btw), the excellent driver that he is. He has to decide what to do next. Of course economics is involved in the decisionmaking, which is a major aspect of the sport. If you had a talent like Verstappen, would you just let him go taken the fact that Ferrari and Mercedes were showing an interest in this rising star? That would be silly, wouldn't it? Also, Verstappen has only just started, so give him a fair chance for you experts to gather enough data to come some form a conclusions.

2016-09-13T17:04:51+00:00

Mick

Guest


try and compaire how they both pann out against Sainz? Maybe you find something there to split Verstappen and Kvyat?

2016-09-13T08:00:01+00:00

Camber

Guest


Yes for sure it is a faillure lets call him Vercrashen......Pffffff you cant make a comparison now you will have to wait another 13 races to make a fair comparison.

2016-09-13T02:46:17+00:00

pioneer

Guest


Kvyat's mysterious 'form slump' always got me. The only slump (if you could call it that) was the collisions with the Ferraris. His pace was always good, and if he wasn't ahead of Ricciardo he wasn't so far back that he was in urgent need of being sacked. There were other reasons why Max was promoted to replace Kvyat, and they had little to do with any alleged Kvyat form slump. I agree, Kvyat's F1 career is, unfairly, buried and dead. He's somehow become a kind of F1 pariah. He'll go the way of fellow Red Bull castoff Vergne (no slower on balance than Ricciardo; arguably better in races; somehow not good enough). Kvyat will be good in Formula E.

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