Eight talking points: All Blacks vs Wallabies, third Bledisloe Cup Test

By Digby / Roar Guru

New Zealand has completed a clean sweep over Australia for the 2016 season, winning the third Bledisloe Cup Test by 37 points to 10 at Eden Park in Auckland and in doing so have become the first tier one international side to record 18 straight victories.

While the scoreboard would suggest a comfortable All Black victory, it was anything but as the Wallabies turned in a somewhat surprising performance in a keenly fought and hotly contested performance.

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The All Blacks only managed to pull away in the closing stages of the match.

Here are some talking points from the game.

Wallaby defence
After shrugging off a sluggish start, probably from a lack of cohesion from a new-look starting backline, conceding two tries early the Australian defence worked very hard, pressuring the All Blacks into a number of errors and poor choices.

There was a significant improvement in terms of aggression and commitment in the tackle and a tremendous base to work from heading onto the Northern tour.

Wallaby attack
It was rather noticeable how much flatter Bernard Foley was standing and for the most part he took the ball to the line well, created options and was responsible for some sharp passing.

The Wallabies found a lot of ground against the All Blacks around the fringes and the inside ball worked well. Supported with hard and direct running from the Wallaby pack, the Wallabies regularly made the advantage line and had the New Zealanders back peddling on a number of occasions.

Credit has to go to the All Black defence however, still only conceding the one try for the eighty minutes under significant pressure.

Wallaby substitutions
The All Blacks certainly started to pull away noticeably from the 50th minute through to the 65th, again aided by the impetus gained from the bench.

I could not help but wonder if Michael Cheika waited too long to use his fresh legs from the pine. Whether it would have made a difference to the end result is purely speculation but the wallabies fell off the pace there for a time and perhaps this will be a future consideration.

All Black counter attack
On a number of occasions the All Blacks over the last few years (if not longer) have managed to pull themselves out of the mire by seising upon their opponents’ mistakes to score a much needed try or swing the momentum of the match and last night was no different.

Opponents should be aware, you don’t just have to play well to beat them, you also have to eliminate your errors and be efficient in all aspects of your play – otherwise its curtains.

Case and point from last night, it was a closely fought contest yet the All Blacks still won by 27. When one considers the missed kicks at goal as well, it could have been worse.

Beauden Barrett’s goal kicking
Barrett has certainly earned his starting opportunity at first five this season and has performed incredibly well, yet his goal kicking is decidedly below par. As many theorised, his 44th minute substitution for Aaron Cruden was perhaps a result of this of what looked at that point to be a close match.

Steve Hansen made mention after the match that Barrett had been under the weather in the lead up to this match. However the continued woes from the tee has to be a concern. If he is intent on remaining the number one pivot, you would have to think he simply has to improve this aspect of his game.

Locking roulette
Has Cheika finally found his best starting second row? I think so with Adam Coleman and Rory Arnold performing very well last night.

Up against an established pair in Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock and certainly not outshone.

Both relatively young, the opportunity is there to grow a formidable partnership and no doubt there will be plenty of improvement the more they play together. I wonder if Cheika will see it the same way or will further tinkering be made?

That TMO call
Live I thought it was a fair try to Henry Speight and had no real issue with Dane Haylett Petty’s ‘lane changing’, however it was ruled a penalty for his interference on the chasing Julian Savea after the TMO intervened after the try was scored.

After a few more viewings I can see why the TMO and Nigel Owens arrived at their conclusion but in my mind, it was a fair try and I am sure you could find several instances from this season alone where such tries have been awarded in similar circumstances.

It was a significant decision in the circumstances though I am doubtful it would have made an overall difference to the result with a significant amount of time left to play.

The Cooper boo
Seriously? I just do not get it, come on guys, can’t we just make like frozen and ‘let it go?’ It is really embarrassing.

Those are my talking points from the third Bledisloe and I am sure there are plenty of others. While the Wallabies were defeated, they can take plenty away from this performance and look towards their Grand Slam tour with plenty of confidence.

The All Blacks, though having secured a new record and continue on an unbeaten 2016, know they have plenty to work on to keep themselves up the front of the pack heading away on their Northern tour.

What are your thoughts from the latest Eden Park encounter?

The Crowd Says:

2016-10-25T04:36:36+00:00

Geoff

Guest


You post about the McCaw cartoon last year then Jack?

2016-10-25T04:33:34+00:00

Geoff

Guest


Yep, long before any crowd noise to alert them to the issue Clearly TMO watched the replay and acted of his own accord

2016-10-25T04:30:55+00:00

Geoff

Guest


There's no evidence at all that TMO was influenced by the crowd. Honestly its like none of you have ever had a job in a professional environment. You think this guy up there cares about a crowd? He cares about being able to come through his review process with flying colours. What some inebriated half wits in the stands think is almost certainly going to mean nothing to a guy with the benefit of multiple replays.

2016-10-25T04:28:13+00:00

Geoff

Guest


other way round, TMO began the process

2016-10-25T04:26:03+00:00

Geoff

Guest


Squire keeps making it because when he gets his chances he plays very well. In fact, he's getting better and better.

2016-10-25T04:23:32+00:00

Geoff

Guest


Savea could well have gotten to him but thats not a condition of the Law, there's nothing in there saying he has to be likely to get him, just that he's not impeded while trying Sorry but you're flat out wrong

2016-10-25T04:21:39+00:00

Geoff

Guest


"The All Blacks for the first time this year were looking nervous" Ive heard this several times this year. You lost by 27 points. 27 27 Timing or not, you got flogged, there's no ref in the world can hand a side beating like that. Keep it up though, was long as Cheika et al think like this (even a little) you'll continue to be our whipping boys and thats fine with me.

2016-10-25T04:18:03+00:00

Geoff

Guest


Yeah thats the point, Savea couldnt get in front of him because he was obstructed It's as clear a penalty as you'll ever see.

2016-10-25T03:37:13+00:00

Crusty

Guest


We Cane's fans (CHAMPIONS!) don't need to put kickers off, we have a giant fan installed on Brooklyn hill up above the city. It gets turned on to blow the opposition's kicks away. Beudy sometimes forgets the remote and it gets left on and messes his kicks up.

2016-10-24T18:34:38+00:00

tmt3

Roar Rookie


The non-try ruling in the test match is better than some rulings I've seen in another code - rugby league. On a number of occasions this year, the NZ Warriors were pinged for similar offenses, but it was worse, as the guy being put in the spot light in the lead up to the try had nothing to do with the try being scored or not. The same principle applies in both codes where a player impinges upon another player making an attempt to tackle, or stop another, and whether or not the offending player would have altered the outcome, seems to have nothing to do with the ruling -at least that's what I've seen in the NRL.

2016-10-24T05:23:21+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


My comment, is no comment. Except: - I like yellow - It makes me mellow - But not Check

2016-10-24T04:51:54+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


I think you might find the try was scored after the obstruction not while. That is why it is important. Like approx 28 metres later. Savea is not "far off" at all.

2016-10-24T04:45:39+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


No one on a UK rugby forum .... cut and dried then. What is the name of that forum as a matter of interest. I had a quick look at the Planet Rugby Forum and noticed quite a few agreed with the decision.

2016-10-24T04:36:04+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


You asked someone if they are a coach. Are you a psychologist.

2016-10-24T04:27:27+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


I did read much of what was in the media regards this matter. But to say unequivocally that Hansen planned the release of the information to cause disruption to the Wallaby camp is surly speculation. And it is absolute nonsense to say the Police have suggested the device was put there by a member of the AB party. They have never said that at all. You should try and read information from the media without making stuff up.

2016-10-24T04:11:59+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


Care to post the correct quote?

2016-10-24T04:09:52+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


He did not say that at all. You are making that up. Obstruction ... yes really....its quite clear HP obstructed Savea.

2016-10-24T04:04:50+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


Thugby - You need to use slow motion. Clearly normal speed is too fast for you. If HP "roars" past Savea then can you explain how he come from Savea's side and bumped him with his shoulder. And again what has Savea's hold on HP got to do with the obstruction on Savea. They are two separate incidents. The whole British Press says it wasn't a penalty. Ohh that seals it then. No further discussion required. If you can attempt to answer the questions without ranting it might be helpful.

2016-10-24T03:44:26+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


Thugby. Same question for you.

2016-10-24T03:39:17+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


I don't know why you bother also. How does Savea's hold on HP change what he did to Savea.

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