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Brisbane Roar cop another spanking in Japan

By Vince Rugari, Vince Rugari is a Roar Guru

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    Brisbane Roar’s AFC Champions League campaign is hanging by a thread after a deflating 3-0 loss away to Kashima Antlers in Japan.

    It was a valiant effort from the Roar, who were recharged after a nine-day break and keen to atone for their horrendous 6-0 thumping against Ulsan Hyundai in their most recent Asian outing.

    But while they had their moments in Tuesday night’s clash at Kashima Stadium, they lacked the clinical touch of the reigning J-League and Emperor’s Cup winners, who were simply ruthless in front of goal and much more penetrative with their play.

    It leaves John Aloisi’s side winless and on the bottom of Group E after suffering the fifth defeat by an Australian side in this year’s tournament.

    They are also yet to find the back of the net in three matches.

    Rising Japanese star Yuma Suzuki opened the scoring in the 43rd minute with a first-time stab at an enticing cross from right-back Yukitoshi Ito.

    Jamie Young – who is being used by Aloisi as the Roar’s dedicated Champions League goalkeeper – didn’t react in time at his near post and was also at fault for their second goal from a 76th minute corner.

    The gloveman failed to secure a header from Naomichi Ueda, who pounced on confusion in the box by following up his effort and bundling it over the line with his shins as Young scrapped to recover.

    Three minutes later, Yasushi Endo beat his marker Corey Brown and curled in a left-footed shot to put the final nail in Brisbane’s coffin.

    Young’s blunders undid his good early work in the goalmouth as he kept the Roar in the match with a number of athletic diving interventions.

    Missing first-choice players Tommy Oar (hamstring), Thomas Kristensen (thigh) and Luke DeVere (calf) as well as the rested Michael Theo, the best chance for the visitors came midway through the first half, when Brandon Borrello trickled a ball into the box towards Jamie Maclaren.

    The striker unselfishly left it for Brett Holman, but his dummy seemingly surprised the former Socceroo, who reacted late and scuffed a meek shot from point-blank range that was tipped wide for a corner when he should have scored.

    “That was the big one. If that went in I think it would have been easily a different game,” Aloisi said.

    “We were limiting their chances to mainly shots from outside the box, they weren’t really causing us too many issues.

    “I thought we were matching them.

    “But when you’re playing away from home, you need to be a little bit more ruthless.

    “We got into a lot of good positions but we probably didn’t create as many chances as we could have.”

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    • Roar Rookie

      March 15th 2017 @ 6:18am
      Stevo said | March 15th 2017 @ 6:18am | ! Report

      JA said “they weren’t really causing us too many issues.” He must have been watching a different match or is simply delusional. Kashima were slicker, neater, cleaner and more efficient in all aspects of the game. The Roar turned the ball over with regularity, passes didn’t find their team mates and the front line hardly existed. Kashima’s first goal was beautifully taken and should be given more credit for the lovely technique rather than the training cone defending.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 7:22am
        Waz said | March 15th 2017 @ 7:22am | ! Report

        I think JA is spot on with that assessment, edit out the three goals in that and a neutral viewer might be hard pressed to pick the winner. But I then agree with most of what you’ve said also, there was a gap in quality there which Roar need to heed.

        • March 15th 2017 @ 10:25am
          Lionheart said | March 15th 2017 @ 10:25am | ! Report

          yes, I’d agree with JA that they were kept to long shots which were ineffective, and Roar had several chances that they needed to take. Both sides were missing passes due to the wet. The article identifies Jamie, who just isn’t up to the standard required of a decent A League striker, but what about Papadopulous? His play with the ball in the box and shot on goal was, for me, the most speccy of the night. But in the end, I think their spirit was broken because they faded badly.

    • March 15th 2017 @ 7:42am
      Waz said | March 15th 2017 @ 7:42am | ! Report

      They say the way to learn to play in Europe is “to play European football” and so it is with Asian football I recon, it’s a real test.

      Roar can pat themselves on the back with 7 years of domestic success and consistent performances in the HAL but last night showed a gap in quality that will only continue to widen if steps aren’t taken now. There’s probably a few lessons/talking points out of this:

      1. Roars depth was found wanting: Not having your first XI fit and available is a severe handicap for Roar; but not until the cap on players salary and number of players in the squad is eased is that likely to change to provide improved depth (plus of course Roar need to be able to afford more depth)

      2. Individuals were found wanting: Individual players were tested and found wanting; Corey Brown, impressive in the HAL, was found to be a “slow learner” to use Rudens words and lacking in confidence to do the right thing and it cost the third goal; Maclaren is way off marquee level, if he goes overseas he’ll struggle to make the match-day squad let alone the bench; North has gone past his best; Broich should have come on late as Ogasawara did for Antlers; but discarding players like this means replacing them with like for like players of similar quality in a cap system.

      3. Coaching was found wanting: It’s all well and good giving young Australian coaches a go in the HAL, we’ve currently 5 in head coach positions JA being one of them, but the test of their coaching occurs in the ACL and JA was found wanting. How do we fix that or do we just live with it and accept “they’re learning”?

    • March 15th 2017 @ 7:43am
      j binnie said | March 15th 2017 @ 7:43am | ! Report

      Vince – I think you rushed this report to catch a deadline for you hint that Young’s blunders were at the root of Roar’s problems. His first “blunder” was failing to stop a perfectly struck volley from all of 8 metres (inside the penalty spot) ,whereas if Holman had hit his chance with the same timing, Roar would have been one ahead. The second “blunder”you describe as failure to secure a header made by one of four opponents who were surrounded by 7 Roar defenders.He did stop the header ,but as you say failed to secure it —–while his team-mates stood and watched 2 opponents bundle the ball over the line.
      No Vince, Roar’s defeat has to come under much stricter analysis when seeking out who was to blame, the goalie simply being what one would describe as an “easy mark”.
      Stevo above has started such an analysis but barely gets to the root of Roar’s problem on the night.
      First of all, as the Fox critics commented after the game,, Holman and Broich were not “in” the game from start to finish and yet continued to the end.The hardest working player in the team,Borella, (who in my opinion will never be a right winger),was substituted by a player who claims to be a right winger????
      The kid Caletta, who once again raised comment from the “on air” commentators, on his almost perfect use of the ball, spent far too much time having to play in the Roar’s back third ,jockeying players into error as he “protected” Hingert.
      Over on the left Brown was not getting the same “protection” from Mackay as the captain tirelessly threw himself forward trying to motivate the front three. As Stevo says ,ball after ball was turned over and it wasn’t long before the Japanese began to play into the space down Roar’s left flank. This came as no surprise for in Roar’s other bad defeats, this “breach” always appears to start down Roar’s defensive left flank. Once again this was mentioned post match by the Fox experts, who criticised Brown but made no mention of Mackay’s absence from the scene..

      Vince ,the trouble with this Roar team is not that they are a bad side made up with bad players ,they remind me of a car engine stuttering along, mis-firing on more than one cylinder.

      They start moves OK, but the alert watcher sits and waits for the inevitable mistake, that sees the promised “fruit” die on the vine,so to speak. The Antlers paced themselves well simply waiting,waiting, waiting ,for the inevitable unforced error giving them possession.

      There is much work to be done if this Roar team has to reach what could be it’s best level of performance. Cheers jb.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 10:37am
        Lionheart said | March 15th 2017 @ 10:37am | ! Report

        (This response was meant for Waz’s comment above yours JB, but never mind. Yours is very astute, as usual.)
        I’m not one to criticise JA, but I do feel he has let us down. I reflect back a few seasons when we played ACL with mass injuries and our youngsters filled in – Borrello, Petratos, Brattan, Klute, Brown, Bowles and Doncs Donachie were a few of our youngsters then, and they’ve all turned out pretty well. But JA doesn’t seem to trust our youngsters He’s holding them back for too long imo. Why not sub a forward last night, Daggers or Brady, when MacLaren, Borrello and Holman weren’t working.
        I think his squad management has been badly lacking.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 11:59am
        pacman said | March 15th 2017 @ 11:59am | ! Report

        Vince, I have to agree with jb. The first goal was well struck, into the area which Young was moving away from as he followed the ball moving from his left to his right. The goal scorer was, I suspect, aware that Young had to leave his near post, and hit the ball accordingly, and found Young wrong footed. This is a technique used successfully by leading forwards for many decades.

        Certainly Young must bare most of the blame for the second goal, as he failed to secure the ball. He appeared to be somewhat hindered by the melee of players surrounding him, but such is the goalkeeper’s lot.

        No blame attaching to Young for the third goal.

        The absence of our midfield was depressing, and this played an integral part in the final result. One can add the inclement weather conditions into the equation – even the Japanese bench appeared freezing, miserable and depressed.

        3-0 away is not a good result, but it reads kinder than the previous 6-0 result in Seoul.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 12:30pm
        Ian said | March 15th 2017 @ 12:30pm | ! Report

        agree JB with your assessment on the first two goals in particular.

    • March 15th 2017 @ 8:43am
      Paul said | March 15th 2017 @ 8:43am | ! Report

      Jamie Maclaren doesn’t look good enough for NPL football, get rid. But please don’t come anywhere near Wanderers we don’t need another greedily little Prima-Donna

      • March 15th 2017 @ 12:38pm
        Fadida said | March 15th 2017 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

        Agree. You’re so much better off with Santalab, Griffiths and Scott who together have about half of his goals

    • March 15th 2017 @ 8:49am
      Square Nostrils said | March 15th 2017 @ 8:49am | ! Report

      We dont need to over analyze the Roar regarding individual players(read A-League clubs in general) in Asia, quite simply the players on the park are technically inferior to their Japanese(in this case )counterparts.
      This reminds me of the Ange era at the Roar when they were top dog, but looked inferior to Tokyo FC pound for pound.
      Just as then, once Kashima upped the tempo, the speed of movement and ball control was too much for the Roar.
      Conversely if the Roar tried to up the tempo, we start seeing the turnovers, loss of possession as mentioned by j binnie and other posters, simply because the greater the speed of play the greater the ball skill required, the old Stanley Matthews quote regarding his secret “Skill at speed”.
      How to fix it, well as nothing has changed since Roar vs Tokyo FC , we look at the restrictive, ambition cruncher holding back A-League clubs, the Salary Cap.
      Dump it ASAP or continue to struggle in the Asian Champions League.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 8:55am
        Waz said | March 15th 2017 @ 8:55am | ! Report

        Good post and don’t disagree with any of what you’ve said; I would say things have changed/improved since Ange’s day but that the opposition have changed even more. So there’s a need for a step change in quality and what we’re doing – there’s no point in taking isolated incidents (like wanderers win, a team actually getting out of the group stage etc) and saying “we can do it”, just like your great quote “skill at speed” can our players and sides do it regularly? from national team down to age representation down to club sides, the answer is no. The big question is, who is looking at this – everyone seems to be naval gazing at the moment lol.

        • March 15th 2017 @ 10:13am
          j binnie said | March 15th 2017 @ 10:13am | ! Report

          Waz – If you watch the kid Caletti carefully, you will see him do a couple of things that will tell you immediately he is a cut above most of his team-mates ,and, for one of his age and experience, it poses the question,where did he learn these things????
          I refer to his habit of constantly doing a 360 degree “scan” of his immediate surroundings .no doubt learning where all his team-mates are in relation to himself,and of course this knowledge allows him to make “fast” passes combined with a high degree of accuracy.
          The other thing I noticed last night was his tendency to “jockey” rather that commit himself to a reckless tackle which, for a man of his physique or size would almost be guaranteed, to see him lose out, as It is, his “jockeying ” is tending to make opponents play backwards which is defending of the highest standard.

          I quite honestly feel this lad has to play just behind whatever front players are selected, for that same high successful pass rate may just supply the missing link in Roar’s play, the smooth transition between defence and attack,.We can but hope. Cheers jb.

          • March 15th 2017 @ 11:20am
            Square Nostrils said | March 15th 2017 @ 11:20am | ! Report

            j binnie

            I would add to your above assessment of “Kid Caletti” a vital element that allows him the 360 degree scan and fast passes, even jockeying rather than a reckless tackle.
            That is of course something all cut above players seem to have, “Time on the ball” or in the case of jockeying, time off the ball
            So did he learn that, or is it innate?
            We watch his progress keenly.

          • March 15th 2017 @ 11:45am
            punter said | March 15th 2017 @ 11:45am | ! Report

            JB you have watched a lot of football, your analysis on this player really excites me.
            I have only really seen him play once & I was amazed at how good this guy was on the ball.
            Really impressed that someone like who also watches a lot of the Roar is so impressed.
            As Square Nostrils says, we watch is progress keenly.

    • March 15th 2017 @ 10:03am
      BES said | March 15th 2017 @ 10:03am | ! Report

      Like it or lump it – I see no other option at this stage then to adopt the same method that both Ade and WSW did in their runs through the ACL and that is simply accept that as things stand at present, we are kidding ourselves if we think we can “take the game to” these teams. As WSW did, we need to readjust completely and accept that it will need to be us that sits back and attempts to play on the counter.

      Personally I don’t think it will make much difference with our current line up until McLaren is finally replaced – but hopefully it will reduce the amount we are now regularly losing by.

      It would also provide a good opportunity for both the coach and the team to broaden their abilities as I do not see that we should be adopting this defensive posture in the HAL at all – but clearly CLEARLY after 4 purely embarrassing attempts at playing attacking football in the ACL over the years, we need to eat humble pie and change our approach – at least until something changes (salary cap?) to allow us to obtain/develop far better technical / quality players.

      • March 15th 2017 @ 11:12am
        Lionheart said | March 15th 2017 @ 11:12am | ! Report

        nah – don’t give up. This should strengthen us to improve, not roll over and play dead ball. We could have been up two last night, don’t give in now. Get behind our team, these times count more than he wins. Anyone can support a winner, but only true fans stick it out through the losses. Besides, we still got a grand final to win, right?

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