Tigers ‘relieved’ to finally deliver another contract payout

Dane Eldridge Columnist

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    Jason Taylor’s position at the Wests Tigers had become untenable once the club discovered it had endured almost five years without a contract payout.

    The coach was coldly given his marching orders following an emergency board meeting yesterday, consolidating the club in its favoured position of complete and utter disarray.

    In a traditional move, the board opted to sack Taylor with immediate effect and grant a full payout of his contractual entitlements.

    This ensured the Tigers remained compliant with its charter of paying people large sums to do anything but work for them.

    Taylor will now take his place alongside Tim Sheens as a former employee with a fully-funded investment portfolio that could’ve been used to return Balmain Leagues back to solvency.

    A straight-laced, gawky fellow, whose hats never seem to fit him, Taylor arrived at the Tigers looking to simply bring stability to an organisation with a lengthy history of bad ideas.

    The tenure began in trademark Tigers fashion when the coach arrived for pre-season training to be greeted with a pin-less grenade.

    Predictably, predecessor Mick Potter left Taylor to inherit a flunky list, factions and rotting facilities, a working environment described by the board as “healthier than usual”.

    Robbie Farah on the scoreboard

    But from the outset, his desire to instil the club with professionalism put him immediately offside with those in power.

    Under an administration struggling to retain everything from personnel to decorum, Taylor’s calm demeanour and lack of a drinking problem did nothing to add to the Tigers’ penchant for public exhibitions of self-harm.

    After months of toil and trouble, many believed his cards were ultimately marked following the Robbie Farah saga.

    The fashion in which Taylor continually failed to yield to the hooker’s regular baiting was viewed as disrespectful to the club’s unwritten law of keeping nothing in-house.

    This left Farah with the unenviable job of making up the shortfall caused by Taylor’s public civility, forcing him to generate twice the amount of turmoil by provocatively staging multiple farewells.

    Despite winning a small amount of support at board level after he unknowingly oversaw the Tim Simona saga, in the end Taylor’s steadiness was too much for the organisation to bear.

    The board’s decision was also brought about by whispers emerging from the contract talks of James Tedesco, Mitchell Moses, Aaron Woods and Luke Brooks, most notably the star quartet’s concerns for “what lies ahead at the club”.

    In response, with the four seeking a glimpse into the future, the board decided honesty was the best policy.

    So they sacked a coach.

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    Dane was named best and fairest in the 2004 Bathurst mixed indoor cricket competition. With nothing in the game left to achieve, he immediately retired at his peak to a reclusive life ensconced in the velvet of organised contests. Catch the man on Twitter @eld2_0.

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    • March 21st 2017 @ 9:56am
      Sean said | March 21st 2017 @ 9:56am | ! Report

      Honestly the first thing they need to do is decide on one home ground amd build training facilities there.

      I was a balmain supporter but am happy to move everything to cambelltown just so we have a base of operations.

      Whoever comes in needs to not resign about 8-10 players. So sick of the word potential. Get players who are proven.

      • Roar Guru

        March 21st 2017 @ 10:26am
        Epiquin said | March 21st 2017 @ 10:26am | ! Report

        Isn’t it funny that resign and re-sign mean the exact opposite of each other.

        • March 21st 2017 @ 10:36am
          kk said | March 21st 2017 @ 10:36am | ! Report

          You’re Dux of Class, Epi.

          • Roar Guru

            March 21st 2017 @ 11:22am
            Epiquin said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:22am | ! Report

            Haha thanks Maxy! Maybe I should coach the Tigers. I’ll take the half-million salary…

          • March 21st 2017 @ 1:44pm
            Casper said | March 21st 2017 @ 1:44pm | ! Report

            Or is that ‘Ducks’ of the class (dismissed without scoring)?. To think this lot won a premiership just over a decade ago.
            North Sydney Bears should be repulsed from Qld’s Gold Coast beaches & sent to knock on the relevant door, or doors, of this shambolic joint venture if they want back into the NRL. At least they’ll be au fait with underperforming.

    • Roar Rookie

      March 21st 2017 @ 10:46am
      steveng said | March 21st 2017 @ 10:46am | ! Report

      Chair Marina Go and CEO Justin Pascoe talk like they are the be all and end all and have all the answers for the West/Tigers, in their press conference. They think that sacking and paying out players and coaches will improve the breed, it might happen naturally in nature (by the process of elimination) but by the record of the West/Tiger it will just repeat itself and keep going. The West/Tigers will keep going down as long as they have CEO Justin Pascoe and some of the others at the helm.

      • March 21st 2017 @ 11:17am
        GD66 said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:17am | ! Report

        Hmmm. Giving a press conference for an announcement of this gravity in a creased suit, unshaven and with no tie isn’t a good look, for sure.

        • Roar Rookie

          March 21st 2017 @ 2:46pm
          steveng said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:46pm | ! Report

          Not only that, but Go and Pascoe had an answer for every question asked, as if they already have it worked out ‘their way’ which seems (to them) the right decision(s) made at the West/Tigers last year and this year. perform or your out. There are allot more problems at the West/Tigers than what their simplistic answers entail, the club is in disarray and in trouble and it should be approached not only in a monitory aspect but in an overall look at the culture of the clubs management. or as “Birdy’ said ‘New contractor takes over , sacks everyone on site and re hires. Even the cleaners are punted” and I presume by the ‘cleaners being punted’ he means get the management to clean the toilets, after a Sat or Sun night out at the West/Tigers club or game by the West/Tigers, lol

    • March 21st 2017 @ 11:20am
      Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:20am | ! Report

      The only other club that lets the players run it is the Warriors. And what do you know. They also haven’t played finals football since 2011 as well. As mentioned above the Tigers fans want to see every local junior play for them for their entire career. That’s okay when they are they are contributing to both sides of the football coin, defense and attack, but these guys aren’t. Tedesco is the only one who would walk into another club on big money. But only if that club isn’t the Broncos, Storm, Warriors, Panthers, Cowboys, Knights or Sea Eagles. Woods would find a club as well. But also his options would be limited as there are better front rowers out there as well. But in all honesty Moses and Brooks would struggle to find a club that would take them on decent money because the hype is all they have. Why do you think the Knights went after Ponga and not Moses or Brooks? Think about it. Ponga was who they went after not Moses or Brooks or even Tedesco for that matter. No really think about it. The Knights spent a fortune on a kid with two games experience rather than go after three of the Big Four. That speaks volumes about how these players are actually viewed by other clubs. Ponga might be a bust, but the Knights, a team that has won the last two spoons, think that he is worth more than the Tigers ‘stars’.

      • Roar Guru

        March 21st 2017 @ 11:28am
        Epiquin said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:28am | ! Report

        You are preaching to the choir. Every now and again Moses and/or Brooks throws a quality pass or makes an amazing try assist and everyone goes “See! Look what they are capable of. They’re growing into a great young halves combo!” Then the next week they slide off tackles left, right and centre.

        Brooks is now in his fourth season. It’s time for potential to be lived up to.

        • March 21st 2017 @ 12:54pm
          Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

          Epiquin, the coach that puts his hand up for the job must be given a four – five contract. That way he can rebuild the club from the ground up with the roster he wants. Be that through retention of players, I personally don’t think that Tedesco, Moses, Brooks and Woods deserve the money they are asking for, or through attracting players to the club. And realistically the list of candidates will be small.

          Cleary – Is probably waiting to see if the Dragons or Bulldogs jobs become available
          Walker Brothers – I would love to see them coach at NRL level. But they won’t risk their careers at the Tigers. The front office is too unstable for them. They can’t be fighting fires on and off the field.
          Payten – Former player and lower level coach. Played and now coached at a couple of clubs. Will have a fairly good network.
          Kimmorley – Coaching in the Newcastle comp and has ambitions of being an NRL coach.
          Dunemann – I actually don’t know where he is at the moment but he won a QLD Cup and then went to Canberra. Good coach and tough as well.
          Toovey – Does he want to go to another club with factions and infighting?
          Webster – Don’t know enough about him, but assistant coach at the Warriors and now Tigers. ???
          Parish – Has done a long apprenticeship. Also has a good network.

        • March 21st 2017 @ 2:16pm
          Casper said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:16pm | ! Report

          Wasn’t Brooks touted to be a future star as the blues halfback a couple of years back? I agree that Brooks & Moses need to play more consistently to live up to their wraps, but it’s the media & public who give them those wraps. Vincent, I’d equate Woods to Hannant in his prime, no better but worthy of a spot in most NRL packs.

          The NRL is a tough gig, look at the number of guys who burst on to the scene and then plateaud or faded away. Blokes like Taumololo spun their wheels for a few years, he’s only just started to pay dividends and there was talk of getting rid of him in 2015 before their premiership. Matt Scott was dropped after his first origin game and took a few years to get back there. Ben Hunt was an overnight sensation in 2015 after a six year apprenticeship as a bench hooker. Corey Norman burst onto the scene in about 2012 & is only now looking to be a quality NRL spine player, although he still has some off days.

          If I was either Walker brother, I wouldn’t touch this lot with a barge pole.

          One of the main problems I see in the NRL is the role of player managers, they talk up their clients to get their 10-15% cut of a bigger contract & piss in the players’ pockets to convince them they’re worth it. Who wouldn’t take more money, but are they potentially jeopardising their futures in a chase for a bit bigger share of the pie, which eventually has to be sliced up and shared across all players in the squad. You get more, you’re expected to earn it more!!

          • Roar Guru

            March 21st 2017 @ 2:31pm
            Epiquin said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:31pm | ! Report

            It’s not just the media who talk them up. The club and it’s fans do too.

            Yep. Everyone was calling him an Origin prospect after 1 game.

          • March 21st 2017 @ 4:14pm
            Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 4:14pm | ! Report

            Casper the thing is though, the players you mentioned earned their stripes before asking for the big money. Taumololo is only twelve months older than Brooks and Moses. Yet he’s played test football, finals football, won a premiership and a Dally M. He has earned the right to say I am worth this much. Yet Brooks and Moses are asking for top dollar. Taylor gave them the team last year. All they had to do was repay the faith and win their last game and they would have played finals footy. What they dished up was barely NSW/QLD Cup standard. Ben Hunt has played test football and led his team to a grand final. The Dragons have at least bought someone with the runs on the board. The Tigers are looking at having to pay big money to players who haven’t delivered and may never will. I would rather be the Dragons with Hunt, Eels with Norman, Cowboys with Scott and Taumololo than the Tigers paying big money to Brooks, Moses, Tedesco and Woods.

            • March 21st 2017 @ 10:45pm
              Craig said | March 21st 2017 @ 10:45pm | ! Report

              Agree completely until you threw Norman into the mix. He has exceeded all expectations at the eels, but he’s still a fairly average half in the scheme of things.

      • Roar Guru

        March 21st 2017 @ 11:43am
        Magnus M. Østergaard said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:43am | ! Report

        I’ve said bad things about Woods, but he’s not a horrible front rower. He’s not great and seems to lack agression but he very good. He’s a holding front rower, he just needs to be paired with an agressive front rower, someone like Klemmer.

        Woods has ran for under 100m just 4 times in the last 3 years and 3 rounds.

        Rd 22 2014 in the 64-6 Loss to the Cowboys – 63m
        Rd 23 2014 in the 48-4 Loss to the Roosters – 62m
        Rd 23 2015 in the 24-18 Loss to the Knights – 42m
        Rd 24 2015 in the 40-18 Loss to the Sharks – 76m

        I don’t think there would be that many forwards who have those sort of statistics.

        • Roar Guru

          March 21st 2017 @ 12:46pm
          Epiquin said | March 21st 2017 @ 12:46pm | ! Report

          My only problem with Woods is that he is slow to play the ball. I think he tries to look for a sneaky side step and milk penalties. If he just simplified his game he’d be a better front rower.

        • March 21st 2017 @ 1:17pm
          Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 1:17pm | ! Report

          Vincent, he is not a terrible front rower. But if you were in charge of recruitment for a new club would he be at the top of your list? As I mentioned before, the Knights are wanting players. They overlooked him as well to offer Matt Scott big money. A busted 31 year old was their preference to a 26 year old in the prime of his career. There have been a few front rowers signed recently and Woods wasn’t even mentioned by other clubs. That also shows how clubs view him. Woods from a stats point of view is great. But the stats don’t always reflect what has happened in the game. Opposition teams line up to tackle him. They make contact and let him walk forward and then put him down and wait for him to slowly play the ball. All the while their defensive line is reset and ready to go again. He is not a damaging runner like Bromich, his defense isn’t as good as Trbojevic and he doesn’t have the ball skills of Graham.

          • Roar Guru

            March 21st 2017 @ 1:33pm
            Magnus M. Østergaard said | March 21st 2017 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

            Depends on what I am building towards as well and how much I would have to pay to get. The Knights dont need a Woods in their squad. They dont have an agressor.

            Its almost been ssumed that Woods would stay at the Tigers, which is why its probably barely ever bandied about.

            I agree he’s not damamging, he’s effective but having to lead a forward pack for nearly his whole career has definately taken a toll on him.

            He could 100% play for faster play the balls tho. I agree with Epi. Its the same as Fifi.

            • March 21st 2017 @ 2:11pm
              Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

              Vincent, I don’t buy it. He said last week on NRL360 that this would be the most important contract of his career. If it is that important his manager should be looking around for other options as well. Testing the market to see what he could get. Cam Smith, Cooper Cronk and even Farah all looked at other clubs before they signed contracts with their existing clubs.

              • Roar Guru

                March 21st 2017 @ 2:16pm
                Magnus M. Østergaard said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:16pm | ! Report

                True, but his manager is part of the problem. Same manager for the Tigers 4.

                He should be testing the market, but despite this the only whispers we have heard is of Teddy and the Roosters and that wasn’t much at all and they have since got Gordon, so seem keen on developing Mitchell.

                I have no doubt in my mind that Isaac Moses is extremely influential in this situation to the detriement of it.

              • March 21st 2017 @ 4:19pm
                Matt said | March 21st 2017 @ 4:19pm | ! Report

                Well a left field choice of coach would be to sign Hasler and Foran on a package deal and then sign Woods and Tedesco.
                After that you would pick up a decent half to go with Foran just through the Hasler factor.
                The game of bluff that Isaac Moses has played with the Tigers would then be over.

              • March 21st 2017 @ 7:56pm
                John said | March 21st 2017 @ 7:56pm | ! Report

                His manager is one smart cookie. He managed to create a union of sorts, and just because he managed to tie 3 passengers to Teddy, so their value has shot up from association, so overall more money for the group and ultimately more money in his pockets.

    • March 21st 2017 @ 11:26am
      kk said | March 21st 2017 @ 11:26am | ! Report

      Buzz did not hold back on his scathing assessment of Justin Pascoe on 360 last night.

      When Mr Pascoe appeared on TV he looked dishevelled and certainly not CEO material.

      Not only do Wests Tigers go through coaches but CEO’s also often walk the plank.

      When does Mr Pascoe’s contract end? Are Double Bungers the GO? (smile)

    • March 21st 2017 @ 1:59pm
      Birdy said | March 21st 2017 @ 1:59pm | ! Report

      I’ve worked on job sites where this culture is allowed to survive.
      You are faced with 3 choices
      # suck up and become part of the disease
      # leave (prefeered option)
      # or milk the job for all its worth.
      Wests players have chosen options 1 and 3.
      Management too dumb to pick it up.
      Main contractor gets pumped,
      New contractor takes over , sacks everyone on site and re hires. Even the cleaners are punted.
      The only workable option.

      • March 21st 2017 @ 2:11pm
        kk said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

        Brilliant comparative, Birdy.

        • March 21st 2017 @ 2:31pm
          Birdy said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:31pm | ! Report

          In our discussion a few weeks ago Max, I was talking about the struggle being a Balmain supporter and putting up with this merger.
          Newtown got the best deal. They just lost their license see ya later.instant death.
          Norths live in the eternity of false resurrection.
          While the merged clubs are forever living in compromise.
          Much rather see wests become the magpies again and Balmain become the Perth Tigers.

          • March 21st 2017 @ 2:44pm
            kk said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:44pm | ! Report

            You gunned it Birdy.

    • March 21st 2017 @ 2:30pm
      Casper said | March 21st 2017 @ 2:30pm | ! Report

      For all the correspondents recommending the Walker brothers to coach the Wests tigers, had to look it up because of my fading memory but their greatest hits included “The sun ain’t gonna shine anymore” and “Make it easy on yourself”. Maybe they need to take the hint!

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