Wallabies receive favourable draw for 2019 Rugby World Cup

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    The 2019 Rugby World Cup draw has been announced with Australia being drawn in Pool D alongside Wales, Georgia and two qualifiers.

    Meanwhile, New Zealand and South Africa will meet in an epic Pool B contest.

    The Pool B fixture is shaping as the best of the group stages, while Pool C appears to be the toughest with England being drawn along with France and Argentina.

    The draw for the World Cup saw 12 automatic qualifiers split across three bands. One team was then taken from each to form the four pools for the World Cup. Those 12 nations were joined by eight qualifying positions, which are still yet to be determined.

    Being split across two bands, all four pools took one team from each band to fill the five-team groups.

    The group for Australia seems on the surface to be a relatively straightforward one, with qualification to the finals expected. Wales will provide a solid contest, but the Wallabies will go in as heavy favourites against Georgia and the Oceania team (likely to be Fiji), along with the Americas qualifier.

    Pool C could be the proverbial ‘group of death’ and will see England take on France, Argentina and likely qualifiers in the shape of Canada and either Samoa or Tonga.

    New Zealand will go into the tournament as heavy favourites to cruise through Pool B, but their contest against South Africa promises to be a quality one. Italy may be the unluckiest team out of the third band of teams, having to face two of the global powerhouses.

    Ireland and Scotland headline Pool A and will play a derby match at some point during the pool phase, with Japan the other confirmed side in their group.

    Japan upset South Africa at the 2015 World Cup in England and playing on home soil, with another couple of seasons playing in the Super Rugby competition under the belt, there is no reason to suspect they couldn’t upset either of the European sides.

    A third European side will join that group out of the qualification tournaments as well as the playoff winner.

    The full list of kick-off times, dates and venues will be announced at a later date, with the World Cup scheduled to commence on September 20, 2019 in Tokyo and the final to be played Yokohama Stadium in Kanagawa on Saturday, November 2.

    Pool A
    1. Ireland
    2. Scotland
    3. Japan
    4. Europe 1
    5. Playoff Winner

    Pool B
    1. New Zealand
    2. South Africa
    3. Italy
    4. Africa 1
    5. Repechage winner

    Pool C
    1. England
    2. France
    3. Argentina
    4. Americas 1
    5. Oceania 2

    Pool D
    1. Australia
    2. Wales
    3. Georgia
    4. Oceania 1
    5. Americas 2

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    • May 10th 2017 @ 7:03pm
      Johnny J-Dog said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:03pm | ! Report

      Not really much improvement in the intensity of international rugby competitiveness since 1987. Same old teams. Just a bit of shuffling of places and NZ goes in as favourites again. Starting to get boring and predictable. Despite being the international game, it’s not that much better than a rugby league world cup. Like Super Rugby the WC is becoming stale but with only five (or less) contenders, what can you do? I’d like to see the re-emergence of long tours rather than FIFO tests.

      • Columnist

        May 10th 2017 @ 10:21pm
        Geoff Parkes said | May 10th 2017 @ 10:21pm | ! Report

        Johnny, if you think the world cup is stale you clearly didn’t watch the last one.

        • May 11th 2017 @ 12:26pm
          Johnny J-Dog said | May 11th 2017 @ 12:26pm | ! Report

          I did. Like everyone else, I knew from the start that NZ would win it as they will the next one.

          • Roar Guru

            May 11th 2017 @ 3:39pm
            Rob na Champassak said | May 11th 2017 @ 3:39pm | ! Report

            I remember when people knew that NZ would win the 2003 and 2007 World Cups.

            • May 11th 2017 @ 9:01pm
              Bakkies said | May 11th 2017 @ 9:01pm | ! Report

              and 1991 and 1995

              • May 12th 2017 @ 11:42am
                Johnny J-Dog said | May 12th 2017 @ 11:42am | ! Report

                Not true. England were close to or favourites for 2003 and we were also close to or favourites for 1991 and 1999. In 1995 the AB mysteriously got sick on the eve of the final. 2007 the winners didn’t beat the ABs. Like I said, we are all just hoping for an upset but otherwise the ABs will win it again. The gap between ABs and the rest is widening and that isn’t good for WC rugby.

      • May 11th 2017 @ 6:18am
        Highlander said | May 11th 2017 @ 6:18am | ! Report

        Unlike the truely global game which has had a whopping 6 winners since 1970 and only 8 in history

        • May 11th 2017 @ 12:41pm
          Johnny J-Dog said | May 11th 2017 @ 12:41pm | ! Report

          Nine different winners in 13 WCs since 1966 if you accept that West Germany won in 1970 and don’t dismiss East Germany as a team (they played against each other).

          Rugby will never have 9 different winners.

          Ask anyone who will win the next rugby WC then ask anyone who will win the next soccer WC and check the variances in your responses.

          • May 11th 2017 @ 4:55pm
            ClarkeG said | May 11th 2017 @ 4:55pm | ! Report

            Not sure why you had to come in at 1966.Was that to conveniently avoid the fact that Brazil had won the two previous cups. They also won the following one so during that period Brazil won 3 out of 4.

            I imagine there would be some variance.I doubt you will bump into anyone that would expect NZ to win the next Soccer WC and most certainly you would not expect to find anyone that will think England capable of winning the next Soccer WC haha – ok I’m kidding.

            My guess would be that most would pick one of Brazil,Germany,Italy,Argentina to win the next Soccer WC considering those 4 teams have 26 final appearances between them over the 20 WCs.

            • May 11th 2017 @ 5:18pm
              CUW said | May 11th 2017 @ 5:18pm | ! Report

              better to start after WWII

              1950
              Uruguay

              1954
              West Germany
              1958
              Brazil
              1962
              Brazil
              1966
              England
              1970
              Brazil
              1974
              West Germany
              1978
              Argentina
              1982
              Italy
              1986
              Argentina
              1990
              West Germany
              1994
              Brazil
              1998
              France
              2002
              Brazil
              2006
              Italy
              2010
              Spain
              2014
              Germany

              errr , i think the Argies are struggling to qualify for world cup.

              Lionel Messi has played six matches in Argentina’s World Cup qualification campaign, notching five wins and one defeat. In the eight games he has missed, however, Argentina have accumulated one win, four draws and three defeats.

              Messi was banned for 4 game – for swearing at a linesman against Chile – making the qualification a tough hurdle. Brazil have already qualified

              http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/

              • May 11th 2017 @ 8:45pm
                ClarkeG said | May 11th 2017 @ 8:45pm | ! Report

                Yeah Cuw but the question he posed was “ask anyone”.

                Argentina have won 2 WCs and been runner up 3 times including the most recent tournament. They are traditionally one of the powerhouses of the game and would be very much on the lips of “anyone” asked such a question irrespective of their present qualifying status.

                However if at worst they finish lower than 5th in their qualifying conference or if 5th, can’t get over NZ home and away to qualify, then you would have to say – they have more than had their chance.

            • May 12th 2017 @ 11:44am
              Johnny J-Dog said | May 12th 2017 @ 11:44am | ! Report

              Like I said, rugby will NEVER have 9 different WC winners.

          • Roar Guru

            May 11th 2017 @ 10:10pm
            taylorman said | May 11th 2017 @ 10:10pm | ! Report

            Well it depends whether boredom is based on how many can win it. Personally I’d find it boring if NZ didn’t win it because then the rugby played would likely be substandard based on today’s sides.

            Each to their own I guess.

            • Roar Rookie

              May 12th 2017 @ 12:11am
              Kirky said | May 12th 2017 @ 12:11am | ! Report

              Taylorman! ~ I reckon you’re about right mate!

            • May 12th 2017 @ 7:14am
              Zero Gain said | May 12th 2017 @ 7:14am | ! Report

              Boring if NZ doesn’t win and that would mean substandard rugby? You can’t conceive of a team playing better rugby than NZ? That exposes your mindset and explains many of your posts.

              • Roar Guru

                May 12th 2017 @ 7:28am
                taylorman said | May 12th 2017 @ 7:28am | ! Report

                No it doesnt Zero, it illustrates my preference for a quality final. Is that not allowed in your world?

      • May 11th 2017 @ 7:17am
        Ben said | May 11th 2017 @ 7:17am | ! Report

        Take it you wont be watching this WC either…..just getting on the Roar rugby website to have a bleat.

      • May 11th 2017 @ 7:22am
        Daveski said | May 11th 2017 @ 7:22am | ! Report

        Trolling at its finest Johnny. I agree there are probably only 4-5 possible winners and anyone else would be a huge shock but is that not the case in the Soccer World Cup, each cricket World Cup, the majority of blue riband Olympic events etc etc…

        • May 11th 2017 @ 12:24pm
          Johnny J-Dog said | May 11th 2017 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

          Say what you like but even if we say “4-5 possible winners”, we all know deep down that if any team other than the All Blacks wins the WC, it will be an upset. Not since 1995 has a WC winner beaten NZ to win it and even that was considered an upset. It has only happened twice (1991 being the other). All other winners benefitted from another team knocking NZ out. In reality if the WC tournament were played this year only England could seriously challenge an All Black squad. All other teams are on the slide. That’s no better than rugby league which only has 2 possible WC winners and I’d give the Kiwis a better chance of beating the Kangaroos than England beating the All Blacks.The gap between the ABs and the rest is widening. Is that good for rugby? Does it make for an interesting WC where all you can hope for is an upset? Is the AB success part of the reason for the decline of Oz rugby?

          • Roar Rookie

            May 11th 2017 @ 4:07pm
            Kirky said | May 11th 2017 @ 4:07pm | ! Report

            Johnny J Dog!

            Interesting post and it reinforces my long held belief that the best team in the World does not always win the Tournament because unless the team going into that said Tournament as the Number 1 does actually go through and win it.

            There is no round robin type play so every team does not play each other which means the ”winner takes all” theory isn’t in play as the Winning team hasn’t played and beaten every other team.

            The only way that any Country can be the ‘best in the World” after a World Cup Tournament is for the Number 1 ranked side going into the Tournament to go right through the whole Tourney unbeaten and therefore winning it!

            That has only happened three times, by New Zealand! ~ each other Tournament has been won by teams that have played well, ridden their luck and ended up on top by winning it, which means the best side and the Number 1 ranked side has had a slip up on the way through, not always necessarily by playing badly, but by circumstances beyond their control.

            It should be mentioned that their are many, many imponderables in any Tournament. like poor Refereeing, bad weather, injury factor and many other of not bargained for scenarios, ~ rarely bad play, just sheer ”bad luck” perhaps, and it goes on, ~ that applies to every team playing indicating, that “you can’t win them all”

            The All Blacks have been the Number 1 ranked side going into every Tournament and have won it three times therefore those three wins justifies their favouritism, the other Tournaments not won by them have each been lost not always by any fault of their own, that being no reflection of the ability of the Team that eventually did win it, as they must have played well to be in the Final!

            All Kudos to the others who have won the World Cup though, but I doubt if it hadn’t been because some of the factors mentioned above kicking in when not needed or warranted, the All Blacks could very well have won them all.

            I can’t be bothered mentioning as to what the likely events were that caused them to lose any one Tournament, but any fair minded Rugby Fanatic will look at it in the true sense and the fact the New Zealanders as Number 1 ranked side lost, because of the fact the eventual winners of the ”others” got lucky!

            A good example of luck kicking in, was in 2011 when the All Blacks and France played off in the Final with the Kiwis winning it, ~ the French prior to the Final had lost two games and the All Blacks had lost none, so it could very well be said that it was “poetic Justice”.

            The few times the All Blacks haven’t been there at the end, has for unknown reasons dropped them down a spot in the rankings, but it usually never fazes them as it’s just a matter of time before they’re back at the top again, it’s always been the case!

        • Roar Rookie

          May 12th 2017 @ 12:15am
          Kirky said | May 12th 2017 @ 12:15am | ! Report

          Daveski! You must know something mate, fill us all in on your 4-5 possible winners not counting the faves’!

      • May 11th 2017 @ 7:35am
        Willie Mack said | May 11th 2017 @ 7:35am | ! Report

        Luckily the RWC is a genuine international event with a massive following so if you aren’t watching nobody will even notice. Comparing it to the league world cup shows that you have no idea what you’re talking about. League is a joke by comparison.

        • May 11th 2017 @ 8:47am
          Craigo said | May 11th 2017 @ 8:47am | ! Report

          @Willie Mack

          “League is a joke by comparison.”

          I think in Australia the Jokes is on the ARU.

          The Australian TV ratings on channel 7 for this years RLWC will beat the 2015 RWC hands down.

          Last Saturday night Foxtel ratings: Both games were on at the same time.

          Sat STV Rugby League #FoxSports #PacificTest England v Samoa 172k

          Sat STV #SuperRugby #FoxSports #WARvBLU 64k

          Just saying.

          • May 11th 2017 @ 9:59am
            DOUBLES said | May 11th 2017 @ 9:59am | ! Report

            Rugby is nearly dead here in oz, and getting worse, as it`s run from Sydney with a meathead in control of our national team.I`ll be surprised if we get 15 k to the Italy test at Suncorp..Especially if it`s filled with Horratahs..Quainta$$ Wallabies?? Pffffffft. I`d much rather go watch premier rugby..

          • May 11th 2017 @ 12:12pm
            Jacko said | May 11th 2017 @ 12:12pm | ! Report

            Craigo you forgot to add the ratings in the other 30 countries that take coverage of the union. Look up the World cup viewing audiences for union and league and you find that the Union WC where just the final alone had a viewing audience of 120 million. Last years League WC had a viewing audience of 1.3 million…..Says it all

            • May 11th 2017 @ 12:42pm
              Johnny J-Dog said | May 11th 2017 @ 12:42pm | ! Report

              All very fine if you’re not in OZ but I’m in Oz.

              • May 11th 2017 @ 6:24pm
                woodart said | May 11th 2017 @ 6:24pm | ! Report

                yes johnny, you are in OZ

            • May 11th 2017 @ 1:12pm
              Craigo said | May 11th 2017 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

              @ Jacko
              I have no doubts you’re right about the Rugby world cup ratings in other countries.
              But I was talking about in Australia.
              People will care more about the RLWC in Australia via TV viewing then the Rugby World Cup.
              It’s going to be the most successful RLWC in history with a lot of interest being played over 3 countries.

              • Roar Rookie

                May 12th 2017 @ 12:20am
                Kirky said | May 12th 2017 @ 12:20am | ! Report

                Isn’t there only 4 teams play in the League World Cup?

          • Roar Rookie

            May 11th 2017 @ 4:55pm
            Shane D said | May 11th 2017 @ 4:55pm | ! Report

            Of course the RLWC will have interest in Australia. Half the countries teams are made up of Australians.

            • May 11th 2017 @ 5:33pm
              Craigo said | May 11th 2017 @ 5:33pm | ! Report

              Bit like how the wallabies are using more and more Pacific islanders and kiwi’s to make their team.

              • Roar Rookie

                May 12th 2017 @ 2:22pm
                Shane D said | May 12th 2017 @ 2:22pm | ! Report

                Not really craigo, at least those players live in Australia unlike the League teams who just seem to collect any Australian with the right sounding name to play for them.

          • May 11th 2017 @ 9:13pm
            Bakkies said | May 11th 2017 @ 9:13pm | ! Report

            ‘I think in Australia the Jokes is on the ARU.’

            Only in Australia. Just saying

    • Roar Guru

      May 10th 2017 @ 7:11pm
      Machooka said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:11pm | ! Report

      Thanks for this Scott… and fair to say the Wallaby may have dodged a few potential bullets here.

      Although, in saying that, Georgia are emerging as a solid side but probably not there yet. And of course Japan are the hosts and will be pumped.

      Likewise, for mine, Ireland have also been gifted a favourable draw as well with Scotland being the only real threat.

      Alas, Pool B has some real interest with SA in there… and Pool C with England, France and the Argies.

      • May 10th 2017 @ 7:48pm
        CUW said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:48pm | ! Report

        1. Ireland
        2. Scotland
        3. Japan
        4. Europe 1 – Romania?
        5. Playoff Winner – Samoa / Tonga ?

        2019 is like 2.5 years away . Scotland are good now BUT will they be good in two years time?

        Japan will be at home and by the way things are going the wolves are improving by the week. all they need is their guys to come back (Leitch has already signed on).

        Ireland are the clear top team – then its going to be interesting.

        but it will also be interesting to see what sort of a break each team gets between matches. last time as i recall , Japan played matches with like 4 days gap and got hammered by Scots.

        a favorable schedule will certainly help some of the teams in such dicey pools 🙂

        • May 11th 2017 @ 8:20pm
          Henry Honey Balls said | May 11th 2017 @ 8:20pm | ! Report

          This is very similar to the 1991 RWC group that also contained Ireland, Scotland and Japan. Scotland beat Ireland in Murrayfield that year in an infamous game that is remembered for some fairly rough treatment from the notorious Finlay Calder on Ireland’s Jim Staples. It will be a mouthwatering clash.

          Interestingly in over 130 tests Ireland and Scotland have never played a game on neutral territory.

      • May 10th 2017 @ 9:29pm
        soapit said | May 10th 2017 @ 9:29pm | ! Report

        dont forget we have a pacific qualifier in there too so it’ll be fiji or tonga or someone like that i believe so not quite as easy. really seems like 2 pretty easy pools and 2 pretty tough pools. not sure the overall quality is there for the random draw for a rugby woorld cup.

    • May 10th 2017 @ 7:23pm
      Kuruki said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:23pm | ! Report

      Loving the look of that pool C. Eddie Jones will have his work cut out just getting out of his pool. With France and Argentina both known to turn up on the big stage, dare i say England may now be fighting to swat away the chokers tag should they fail to escape pool play again.
      Couldn’t have hoped for a better draw for the All Blacks. Italy will give them very good preparation and South Africa will make sure the All Blacks are mentally where they need to be. It will be interesting to see how the form stakes are looking heading into the next WC, let’s hope for Eddie Jones sake he hasn’t peaked to early. Get up France and the Puma !!!

      • May 10th 2017 @ 7:55pm
        CUW said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:55pm | ! Report

        1. England
        2. France
        3. Argentina
        4. Americas 1 – USA/ CANADA
        5. Oceania 2 – FIJI / SAMOA / TONGA

        problem with both France and Argies is – unpredictability. At least with England u know what to expect.

        the other two will also be competitive. but again the schedule will play a major role in the outcome. get hard games up front and it could become tricky.

      • May 10th 2017 @ 9:52pm
        adastra32 said | May 10th 2017 @ 9:52pm | ! Report

        You will not see the mistakes of 2015 repeated in Japan: dislike him but EJ does not take teams to WCs that are naïve or with confused purpose. Yes, it is probably the toughest group, but not on the scale of the last tournie. You can make arguments for Fr and Arg “turning up” OR for Eng being good enough to beat Fr at home and Arg with 14 men for most of the game, as occurred this year.

        • May 11th 2017 @ 2:34am
          Tomas said | May 11th 2017 @ 2:34am | ! Report

          Most of Arg Squad is 20-23 years old. As they have all emerged from the new high performance system, one could hope they can only but improve till 2019 if the coaching is not terrible. We will see how far behind we are come june tests

          • May 11th 2017 @ 5:07pm
            adastra32 said | May 11th 2017 @ 5:07pm | ! Report

            The June tests will be intriguing but not definitive – largely because England will be taking what is, effectively, a development squad.

        • May 11th 2017 @ 4:00am
          taylorman said | May 11th 2017 @ 4:00am | ! Report

          Yes agree there, Jones will take a good side, possibly the winning side, provided he hasn’t fallen out of favour with everyone by then. He’s made a real difference to their results.

          I think the rugby’s always been there last few years, but not the results.

      • May 11th 2017 @ 3:57am
        taylorman said | May 11th 2017 @ 3:57am | ! Report

        Yes agree Kuruki, probably the best draw we’ve had for years, normally pool play has us struggling for competition and we come out of pool with mostly practise runs.

        Last time Hansen had to manufacture the intensity. With Italy and South Africa we at least get two sides playing in the two main championships, regardless of what their form is like by then.

    • May 10th 2017 @ 7:30pm
      Oz_pat said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:30pm | ! Report

      Big question is will Oz rugby be competing as a professional or amateur team by 2019?

      • May 10th 2017 @ 10:25pm
        Big Steve said | May 10th 2017 @ 10:25pm | ! Report

        will the sport even exist in Australia? I think the ARU can finish killing it off in 2 years.

    • May 10th 2017 @ 7:57pm
      Big Steve said | May 10th 2017 @ 7:57pm | ! Report

      Italy got shafted.

      • May 10th 2017 @ 9:09pm
        Henry Honey Balls said | May 10th 2017 @ 9:09pm | ! Report

        Dont rule them out. They did beat SA in their last game and have good coaches in place.

        • May 11th 2017 @ 9:15pm
          Bakkies said | May 11th 2017 @ 9:15pm | ! Report

          and one of their coaches is coaching both sides (Venter)

    • Columnist

      May 10th 2017 @ 8:04pm
      Brett McKay said | May 10th 2017 @ 8:04pm | ! Report

      Well, that could’ve been a lot worse for the Wallabies. Small mercies, etc…

      • May 10th 2017 @ 8:08pm
        Bakkies said | May 10th 2017 @ 8:08pm | ! Report

        If England come second in their Pool and the Wallabies finish a likely 1st in Pool D there is a strong possibility of a QF exit

        • May 10th 2017 @ 9:53pm
          Rhys Bosley said | May 10th 2017 @ 9:53pm | ! Report

          If England come second it will mean their standards have slipped to the point where they are the ones likely to exit.

          • May 11th 2017 @ 6:30am
            Kane said | May 11th 2017 @ 6:30am | ! Report

            It happened in 07 when they lost to England as 1st ranked qualifiers.

            It happened in 07 when the All Blacks lost to France as 1st ranked qualifiers.

            They ended up beating SA in 2011 as second ranked qualifiers.

            Argentina beat Ireland as second ranked qualifiers in 2015.

            It’s one game that anyone can win. If they play England as 1st or 2nd ranked qualifiers then a loss could happen.

            One game.

          • May 11th 2017 @ 7:01am
            taylorman said | May 11th 2017 @ 7:01am | ! Report

            Yeah agree, I think Oz would take that one. France is again the X factor in that pool. They never even knew themselves half the time so good luck for anyone else to.

            • Roar Guru

              May 11th 2017 @ 7:58am
              Fionn said | May 11th 2017 @ 7:58am | ! Report

              They never even knew themselves half the time so good luck for anyone else to.

              Hahahha, I like that.

      • Roar Guru

        May 10th 2017 @ 8:20pm
        Sluggy said | May 10th 2017 @ 8:20pm | ! Report

        Could be Samoa and an improving USA in the qualifier spots.

        Might be trickier than it looks.

        On the other hand those two might be in Pool C.

        Samoa are going to take a QF spot away from a more fancied side again at some point. They might not have a team of the 91 caliber with Bunce, S|Bachop, Lam, the chiropractor and Peter Fatialofa (RIP) but they are dangerous at full strength.

        • Columnist

          May 10th 2017 @ 9:24pm
          Brett McKay said | May 10th 2017 @ 9:24pm | ! Report

          Oh, not saying it’ll be easy; just not as bad as it could’ve been.

          I was surprised to see the Samoa are currently ranked behind both Fiji and Tonga, actually..

          • May 11th 2017 @ 10:32am
            Riccardo said | May 11th 2017 @ 10:32am | ! Report

            And Argentina #9 Brett?

          • May 11th 2017 @ 10:41pm
            Bakkies said | May 11th 2017 @ 10:41pm | ! Report

            I am not Brett. They’ve been in decline for a long while now despite the talent they have available for selection. They were the biggest disappointment at the last RWC in my eyes.

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