Dockers vow not to sledge Marc Murphy

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    vFremantle have vowed not to direct any vicious sledging at Marc Murphy on Sunday as the Carlton AFL skipper deals with the fallout of verbal abuse from St Kilda players.

    Murphy was left fuming after St Kilda players allegedly sledged him about his wife during last week’s Blues-Saints match.

    Fremantle play Carlton on Sunday at Domain Stadium, and Dockers forward Shane Kersten says his team will steer clear of the issue when they face Murphy.

    “Personally, I don’t think it’s on,” Kersten said on Tuesday.

    “I’m not one to go out and sledge people. If there’s a little bit of sledging, it’s all in good humour.

    “I’m sure we’ll have a briefing this week. But we’re not a team that goes out to try to target players in that way to get under their skin or anything.

    “If they’re a good player and if we’re looking to tag them, then that’s what we’ll do.

    “We don’t need to go over and above to try to win a game.”

    Kersten said the young nature of Fremantle’s squad meant they probably couldn’t afford to get involved in sledging even if they wanted to.

    “Obviously being young, we don’t go and say too much because it might come back to bite us in the backside,” Kersten said.

    “We just leave it to our actions and try to play some good footy.”

    Kersten said troubled midfielder Harley Bennell still had the full backing of the player group despite hitting the headlines yet again for the wrong reasons.

    Bennell fronted Fremantle’s hierarchy on Tuesday in relation to his bizarre actions on Saturday while watching a WAFL game.

    The 24-year-old twice interrupted the three-quarter time huddle of the match between Peel Thunder and Swan Districts to speak to his cousin Traye Bennell.

    The club are yet to comment on whether they’ll hand down a punishment.

    “We, as a playing group, are sticking by him,” Kersten said of Bennell, who was ejected from a Virgin Australia flight last month for being drunk.

    “He’s one of our brothers.

    “We’re not a club to go and hang our brothers out and leave them to dry.

    “We’re fully behind him at the moment.

    “He’s been in good spirits around the club the last few days.”

    The Dockers (5-3) are on the cusp of the top eight after snaring five wins from their past six matches.

    Kersten, who was traded to Fremantle from Geelong at the end of last season, struggled in the early rounds.

    But he has hit his straps over the past three rounds, booting six goals during that period to cement his place in the forward set-up.

    © AAP 2018

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    • May 16th 2017 @ 4:45pm
      mattyb said | May 16th 2017 @ 4:45pm | ! Report

      Diddums to Marc Murphy,talk about a born to rule mentality from a footballer who has spent the majority of his career languishing at the bottom of the AFL ladder.
      What about the Carlton sledging of Jake Carlisle that started the whole thing? What about Murphy’s own sledging of Carlisle while he laid on the ground injured while impeding what might have been urgent medical attention? What about Murphy’s poor sportsmanship in failing to shake hands at the conclusion of the game with the opposition?

      Murphy needs to stand down immediately because of his lack of leadership or be stood down by this tragic club. They are going nowhere under his dismal leadership and he’s proving to now be nothing but a distraction.
      They can dish it out the Blues,but when they even get the slightest bit back they bring on the water works.

      • May 16th 2017 @ 7:47pm
        Rasty said | May 16th 2017 @ 7:47pm | ! Report

        You really have major issues. Poor buggar.

        • May 16th 2017 @ 9:11pm
          mattyb said | May 16th 2017 @ 9:11pm | ! Report

          There not born to rule water works are they Rasty?

          • May 17th 2017 @ 3:40pm
            Macca said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

            I would suggest genuine sympathy for someone with serious issues rather than water works mattyb, you really do need to seek help.

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              May 17th 2017 @ 5:04pm
              Col from Brissie said | May 17th 2017 @ 5:04pm | ! Report

              Wow, comments by Lofty and myself made yesterday have now been removed. I wonder who might have reported them?

              • May 17th 2017 @ 5:27pm
                Lofty said | May 17th 2017 @ 5:27pm | ! Report

                I am not sure what has happened Col but one mattyb comment is gone as well. Does this happen very often?

              • May 17th 2017 @ 6:28pm
                Axle and the Guru said | May 17th 2017 @ 6:28pm | ! Report

                Yes Lofty, It’s the reason a lot of my mates no longer even have Roar anymore, I’ve had discussions removed, that have had no malice in them at all.

              • Roar Guru

                May 17th 2017 @ 5:33pm
                AdelaideDocker said | May 17th 2017 @ 5:33pm | ! Report

                Doesn’t happen super often, I’ve only seen comments deleted for having legitimately offensive comments.

                The mods might’ve gotten sick of these petty arguments with mattyb, however. That seems likely!

      • May 19th 2017 @ 1:27pm
        Macca said | May 19th 2017 @ 1:27pm | ! Report

        Thought you might like this Mattyb – particularly the club that won’t make the 8 but most buoyant about bits.

        http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/herald-suns-afl-reporters-give-their-review-after-eight-rounds-of-the-season/news-story/6b7a34c65ad5b2ae4e7cfb9a4c4bf709

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          May 19th 2017 @ 1:38pm
          AdelaideDocker said | May 19th 2017 @ 1:38pm | ! Report

          Typical – and rubbish – paywall blocking me from accessing that, Macca.

          Edit: a simple fix, though, is to copy & paste the headline into google and access the article through there. it seemingly negates the paywall if you click onto it through google.

          • May 19th 2017 @ 1:43pm
            Macca said | May 19th 2017 @ 1:43pm | ! Report

            I was just about to suggest that – apparently they just don’t like sharing.

            Not much in it really, just plenty of love for the blues and a good shout out to Bolton.

    • May 16th 2017 @ 8:14pm
      Kane said | May 16th 2017 @ 8:14pm | ! Report

      Having so much hatred inside one’s self surely can’t be healthy. But i think u will find that the Saints started all of this and it was only when Marc retaliated a little bit that the melee started but don’t let facts get in the way of a good story mattyb.

      • May 16th 2017 @ 10:56pm
        Lofty said | May 16th 2017 @ 10:56pm | ! Report

        Your in fine form today Mattyb. Now that the ” true,old school navy blues fans agree with me” you had better start the rant about McKay, SOS, Judd, Gleeson, Gibbs, Bolton and everything else to do with Carlton while your on a role.
        I wondered how quickly you could get a post on this article. Glad you didn’t let me down.
        As for players making comments regarding other players wife’s and family members. In days gone by they would have received a quick reminder that they should shut there mouth. These days they know the players can not retaliate so they say what they want with no comebacks. A bit like keyboard warriors.

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          May 16th 2017 @ 11:18pm
          Col from Brissie said | May 16th 2017 @ 11:18pm | ! Report

          Lofty he is the biggest hippocrite on the Roar site. He gets his little knickers in a knot about alleged abuse of Boyd and Daniel by Carlton supporters on this site but has no qualms about having a go at Murphy for being offended by sexual taunts about his wife directed at him by some St Kilda players.

          If someone did that to a Bulldogs player he would be squealing louder than Bobby Trippe.

    • May 16th 2017 @ 8:39pm
      me too said | May 16th 2017 @ 8:39pm | ! Report

      Yes was typical of the Melbourne footy media to turn the focus away from Murphy and squarely onto the Saints. The full story quickly forgotten as the old ‘st kilda culture’ angle got another spin from the likes of Caro and Roos. If the sledging was a fight it would have looked like this: Murphy initiating it with a surprise punch to the head, Carlisle then kneeing him in the groin. Murphy running away, then seeing Carlisle lying injured later in the night, kicks him in the head. Poor old Murphy. A victim of saints culture.

      • Roar Guru

        May 17th 2017 @ 6:30am
        Col from Brissie said | May 17th 2017 @ 6:30am | ! Report

        me too, this isn’t about what Marc Murphy said or did to Carlisle. It is about Carlisle and other St Kilda players thinking that it is ok to disrespect a woman by making sexual pornographic remarks to her husband. Remarks that led to your coach admitting they steeped over the line and your captain feeling the need to personally apologise to Murphy.

        This young woman for the past 18 months through social media has been subjected to sexual remarks and accusations of an affair with Wayne Carey. An allegation debunked by Carey who has stated he has never even met her. We all know that people subjected to viscous rumours through social media by the ‘keyboard warrior gr ubs’ can become depressed and all to often this has led to tragedy. If you and other people think that it is ok for Carlusle and others to add to this woman’s grief then I truly feel sorry for you.

        I don’t know if you are married and have children, but if anyone made those sort of comments about my wife or daughters then I would try to ensure they were eating their food through a straw for the next couple of monrhs.

        • May 17th 2017 @ 6:44am
          Kane said | May 17th 2017 @ 6:44am | ! Report

          Well said Col, I would’ve liked to have seen the reaction of Carlisle if Murph said something personal to him, like something about needles. But Murph wouldn’t do that, he’s a better person than that. Carlisle is one of the biggest sooks in the AFL. And then he likes a Twitter remark from someone having a crack at Murph, he doesn’t seem to have much going on in his head.

          • Roar Guru

            May 17th 2017 @ 3:13pm
            Dalgety Carrington said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:13pm | ! Report

            Apparently, that’s exactly what Murphy did say to Carlisle.

            • May 18th 2017 @ 11:25am
              Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 11:25am | ! Report

              Yep…that’s been confirmed.

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            May 19th 2017 @ 12:03pm
            Dan said | May 19th 2017 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

            You were saying Kane?

    • May 17th 2017 @ 1:00am
      Don Freo said | May 17th 2017 @ 1:00am | ! Report

      Isn’t sledging usually targeted at players from the opposition that pose a threat? Why would Freo target Murphy?

      • May 17th 2017 @ 3:02pm
        Kane said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:02pm | ! Report

        You might want to worry about getting your own player’s off the sauce and on to the ground before you worry about other club’s Don Freo.

        • May 17th 2017 @ 3:10pm
          Don Freo said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:10pm | ! Report

          I have no concern at all about any other club. That’s what the comment said. There’s nothing at Carlton to worry Freo.

          • May 17th 2017 @ 4:17pm
            Macca said | May 17th 2017 @ 4:17pm | ! Report

            I seem to remember a similar comment before round 5 2016 Br’er Bear, we’ll just wait and see.

            It should be noted that the blues 3 wins have all come against clubs in the bottom half of the points for table(and they have only played 4 clubs in that bracket with their loss coming against the 9th lowest team), Freo sit 16th.

            I should also note that in round 5 last year Marc Murphy got 28 possessions, 1 goal, 6 tackles, 4 clearances and 1 Brownlow vote.

            • Roar Guru

              May 17th 2017 @ 6:01pm
              Dalgety Carrington said | May 17th 2017 @ 6:01pm | ! Report

              lol Macca, 1950’s USA is on the phone and they want their sledge back, dodgy bigoted connotations and all.

              I also don’t know if I’ve seen a dodgier stat than the pearler you’ve produced on winning against low scoring teams, but it’s a pity you can’t play yourself as Carlton are stone motherless.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 9:02am
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:02am | ! Report

                Dalgety – It isn’t a dodgy stat, it is quite relevant, the blues have trouble scoring (which is why they are stone motherless) but have a great defensive structure, playing a team that also has trouble scoring plays to their strengths and ensures the blues at the very least stay in the game longer, pretty simple really.

      • May 17th 2017 @ 3:38pm
        Macca said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:38pm | ! Report

        Averaging more possessions, more inside 50’s more marks, more tackles & more rebound 50’s than Lachie Neale & Nat Fyfe this year – but if you want to let him run unopposed all day i’ll be happy with that, worked well for Collingwood.

        • May 17th 2017 @ 5:31pm
          Don Freo said | May 17th 2017 @ 5:31pm | ! Report

          In a Carlton side. They are pretty useless encounters with the ball in the scheme of things.

          You keep Murphy, we’ll keep Lachie Weller…a younger, faster player with the same ability level.

          • May 18th 2017 @ 9:09am
            Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:09am | ! Report

            He seemed to do alright with the ball last time out against you Don.

            • May 18th 2017 @ 9:23am
              Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:23am | ! Report

              You really do clutch at straws. This thread began with my contention that this is Freo’s best squad ever. Last time he played against Freo’s thirds. There are (probably) 10 or more personnel changes since that decimated side.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 9:52am
                SmithHatesMaxwell said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:52am | ! Report

                Fyfe and Johnson both played against Carlton last year. Even when both were on the ground the contest was even against a bad Carlton team.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 9:55am
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:55am | ! Report

                And I suppose the 28 possessions he collected against you in 2015 were against a decimated side as well?

                On that decimated side who exactly was missing? Fyfe, Neale, Pavlich, Ballantyne, Clarke, Johnson, Walters & Weller were all there as were Barlow, Dawson, Mayne & Taberner – which superstars of the game couldn’t play that week?

              • May 18th 2017 @ 10:00am
                Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 10:00am | ! Report

                2015?…I’ve heard of paper cuts but you need to beware of straw cuts. So Murphy outplayed Dawson and Mayne…

                This is our best squad ever…better than 2015. You are just not reading.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 11:41am
                Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 11:41am | ! Report

                Just to be clear, players who did not play that game and will this week include:
                Sandilands, Blakely, Hambling, Brad Hill, Langdon, McCarthy, Kersten, Hughes, Ibbotson…

                Fyfe, Johnson and Ballas were all injured in game early and went off, Johnno and Fyfe for the rest of the season. Neale and Spurr were also injured in the game…and you only won in those circumstances by one crooked kick.

                There’s 12 for you.

                You needn’t be waving around that game as any claim to fame.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 12:06pm
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 12:06pm | ! Report

                So Don, you are saying that your list last year was so bad that basically the loss of Sandilands made you a thirds side?

                And Fyfe must have had quite a game before he went off “early” did he rack up all those 15 possessions before quarter time? And Johnson was even better grabbing 19 possessions “early”?

                When you 12 consists mainly of players who weren’t on your list at the time and players who actually played most of the game your argument is weak even for you.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 12:40pm
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

                It should also be noted Don that there were 7 players in the blues side last week that didn’t play in the side that beat Freo last year.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 3:06pm
                Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 3:06pm | ! Report

                Huh? None of that makes any sense.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 3:24pm
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 3:24pm | ! Report

                Once again Don, you are confused by the most basic of things.

                To recap – you claimed Freo didn’t have to worry about Murphy, I said he did very well against you last year, to which you claimed the blues were playing Freo third but when asked who your side was missing to make it a thirds side , you listed 12 players, 4 of which weren’t at the club last year, 2 played the entire game, 2 played the vast majority and 2 were available for selection just not picked.

                So your list must have been terrible if by removing Sandilands and Ibbotson it drops down to a thirds side.

                On top of that if you are going to claim a vast improved side because of the new faces you have brought in, the blues could make the same claim – and given of the 7 new faces 3 of them are West Australian and a 4th is an ex fremantle player they must be high quality.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 5:23pm
                Don Freo said | May 18th 2017 @ 5:23pm | ! Report

                Not even close. Have a read and don’t bother with a reply.

              • May 19th 2017 @ 9:19am
                Macca said | May 19th 2017 @ 9:19am | ! Report

                You really do struggle don’t you Don – maybe if I post dirct quotes you will understand

                Don – “Isn’t sledging usually targeted at players from the opposition that pose a threat? Why would Freo target Murphy?”
                Macca – “Averaging more possessions, more inside 50’s more marks, more tackles & more rebound 50’s than Lachie Neale & Nat Fyfe this year”
                Don – “In a Carlton side. They are pretty useless encounters with the ball in the scheme of things.”
                Macca – “He seemed to do alright with the ball last time out against you Don”
                Don – “Last time he played against Freo’s thirds. There are (probably) 10 or more personnel changes since that decimated side”
                Macca – “On that decimated side who exactly was missing?”
                Don – “Sandilands, Blakely, Hambling, Brad Hill, Langdon, McCarthy, Kersten, Hughes, Ibbotson…
                Fyfe, Johnson and Ballas were all injured in game early and went off, Johnno and Fyfe for the rest of the season. Neale and Spurr were also injured in the game”
                Macca – ” you listed 12 players, 4 of which weren’t at the club last year, 2 played the entire game, 2 played the vast majority and 2 were available for selection just not picked.
                So your list must have been terrible if by removing Sandilands and Ibbotson it drops down to a thirds side.”
                “On top of that if you are going to claim a vast improved side because of the new faces you have brought in, the blues could make the same claim – and given of the 7 new faces 3 of them are West Australian and a 4th is an ex fremantle player they must be high quality.”

                Do you understand now?

              • May 19th 2017 @ 9:47am
                Macca said | May 19th 2017 @ 9:47am | ! Report

                Don – I really should give you some credit because you actually did use the word decimated close to correctly given the dockers were only 2 players down in the Carlton game last years game against the blues – although it wasn’t your intention.

                decimate

                historical
                kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group.

              • May 19th 2017 @ 10:10am
                Don Freo said | May 19th 2017 @ 10:10am | ! Report

                You’re running a separate conversation with yourself.

                My comments are about this year’s squad. last year was a totally different side…as indicated.

                You mistake 12 for 2. But that’s you. If you don’t read, you are only able to have conversations with yourself.

              • May 19th 2017 @ 11:59am
                Macca said | May 19th 2017 @ 11:59am | ! Report

                Don, Don, Don – even when I put the exact conversation laid out in front of you, you still can not muster the ability to comprehend. If I was having a conversation with myself what are all the Don quotes in the above post?

                To make this even easier for you lets look at the very first post that spawned this “conversation” – “Isn’t sledging usually targeted at players from the opposition that pose a threat? Why would Freo target Murphy?” – Murphy’s worth (ie his ability to pose a threat) is the topic being discussed, nothing to do with how great this years crop of Freo players are.

                You go on to discount Murphy’s performance last year because “Last time he played against Freo’s thirds” but when challenged to find players missing who made the side “Freo’s thirds” you can only find 2 that missed the game due to injury, so your argument falls flat.

                Now I know you have trouble admitting you have know idea what you are talking about and trying to change the topic and make snarky comments about me allows you to feel better about yourself but honestly mate it is time to admit the reality of the situation.

            • Roar Guru

              May 18th 2017 @ 9:40am
              AdelaideDocker said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:40am | ! Report

              He’s a great player … in a arguably weaker midfield than ours.

              What’s more important, the collective team or a great individual performance?

              I know what I’d value more.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 9:54am
                SmithHatesMaxwell said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:54am | ! Report

                Freo have one of the best midfields in the league.

                Fyfe, Neale, S Hill, B Hill, Mundy, Sandilands, Walters. In fact you could argue best in the league.

                What do you want in your midfield? Talk about ungrateful.

              • Roar Guru

                May 18th 2017 @ 11:35am
                AdelaideDocker said | May 18th 2017 @ 11:35am | ! Report

                SMH – huh? ungrateful? whaaaat?

              • May 18th 2017 @ 9:56am
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 9:56am | ! Report

                AD – when you watch the blues play you see it is all about the collective.

              • Roar Guru

                May 18th 2017 @ 10:28am
                AdelaideDocker said | May 18th 2017 @ 10:28am | ! Report

                Same with Freo in recent weeks!

                Guess neither of our teams need our very best players to dominate to win, we need our collective teams to perform well, yeah?

                Luckily for us, both our teams have been performing (relatively) well in recent weeks, so this should be a good game.

              • May 18th 2017 @ 10:33am
                Macca said | May 18th 2017 @ 10:33am | ! Report

                AD – yeah I think it should be pretty close, I am not confident enough to suggest we will win but we generally go alright in Perth and as I said elsewhere the fact the dockers aren’t a high scoring side plays into our hands a little.

                If we can keep it close you blokes must surely have run out of great escapes this year.

    • May 17th 2017 @ 2:35pm
      SmithHatesMaxwell said | May 17th 2017 @ 2:35pm | ! Report

      Footballers don’t play to win anymore. They play to collect a paycheque. Players feel like they shouldn’t be subjected to trash talk while collecting their paycheque.

    • Roar Guru

      May 17th 2017 @ 2:58pm
      Penster said | May 17th 2017 @ 2:58pm | ! Report

      Hope this line never comes back to haunt Kersten “We don’t need to go over and above to try to win a game.”

      • May 17th 2017 @ 3:21pm
        Don Freo said | May 17th 2017 @ 3:21pm | ! Report

        It’s a top comment. Let the footy do the talking. Exactly right and it’s what Freo are doing.

      • May 17th 2017 @ 4:58pm
        SmithHatesMaxwell said | May 17th 2017 @ 4:58pm | ! Report

        Says a lot doesn’t it.

        They just play good enough to keep their place on the list and collect their $400k per year.

        The supporters of a club are far more invested in the result than the players.

        Gold Coast got pumped on the weekend. After the final siren they go to shake hands and some of the Gold Coast players are laughing and smiling and having a great chat with the guys that just pumped them by 10 goals.

        They don’t care deep down.

        • May 17th 2017 @ 5:32pm
          Don Freo said | May 17th 2017 @ 5:32pm | ! Report

          You are obviously unaware of Kersten’s interview and the context of the isolated quote. It is in the context of getting on with the footy, instead of sledging.

        • Roar Guru

          May 17th 2017 @ 9:18pm
          Dalgety Carrington said | May 17th 2017 @ 9:18pm | ! Report

          Yeah, if only they could channel misery and bitterness as easily as you.

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