Scotland hold on in thriller against the Wallabies

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    The Wallabies and Scotland have continued their recent tradition of tight contests, playing out an absolute thriller with Scotland holding on to a 24-19 win in Sydney.

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    It was three tries each for the Wallabies and the Scots, but the kicking boot of Finn Russell made all the difference.

    Russell booted four from four, including three conversions and a penalty goal, while Wallaby flyhalf Bernard Foley struggled off the tee, missing two conversions and turning down every opportunity throughout the game to take three points.

    In stark contrast to their performance last week against Fiji, Australia were slow out of the gates as Scotland dominated all the early possession and field position.

    Despite opening the scoring in the fourth minute off the boot of Russell and having all the possession up inside the Wallabies 22, the Scots lack of execution hurt them in the first 40.

    However, where they failed to capitalise themselves, they were gifted tries on the platter.

    Duncan Taylor crossed in the 15th minute thanks to a gift of an intercept from Tatafu Polota-Nau.

    Australia added to their own pain just 12 minutes later when Will Genia’s kick was charged down just five metres from his own line, allowing Russell to scoop up the scraps and cross for the Scots second.

    The Wallabies were able to keep themselves in it thanks to a first-half double from Israel Folau, taking momentum into the halftime break thanks to a high-flying grab and put down right on the siren to reduce the gap to five at the interval.

    It was Australia who arguably took control in the second half, but some scrappy rugby from both sides saw the error and penalty count grow substantially.

    An unlikely pick and go from Will Genia 57 minutes in gave the Wallabies the lead for the firsrt time in the game, but they allowed the Scots to cross the line just five minutes later with a string of beautiful support play.

    Despite the Wallabies camping down inside the Scotland 22 for the entire final ten minutes, the visitors refused to let them in, holding on to a 24-19 win and their first ever victory in Sydney.

    The Wallabies will face Italy next week.

    Final Score

    Australia – 19
    Scotland – 24

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    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:15pm
      freddieeffer said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:15pm | ! Report

      That was rubbish from the Wallabies. Just inept and sloppy. They are doing a fine job in killing interest in the code in Australia with that performance.

      AB’s are going to put 100 points on this lot in at least one of the Bledisloe matches this year.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 5:24pm
        Rock said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:24pm | ! Report

        Oh please, I didn’t watch the game but claiming thw AB will put 100 points is complete hyperbole.

        Will the AB beat us, more then likely. But I bet it’ll be a whole lot closer then the doom and gloom that gets posted over the next day or so.

        Also a lot of it has to do witg people actually hate admitting how good NH rugby is getting.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 5:35pm
          Selector said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:35pm | ! Report

          You saved your self a couple of hours mate and maybe a few extra years on the heart. I am a very very tired Wallabies fan…. Australian rugby fan…

        • Roar Guru

          June 17th 2017 @ 5:37pm
          Cadfael said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

          Accept it. The Wallabies were woeful. Scotland took the chances we gave them and they were good enough to score through them. It was an inept performance from the Wobblies. One try off an intercept and one off a charge down. Yes, the ABs would put 100 points against us.

          That cream of NH rugby is playing in NZ where the cream beat a team of park players and have lost to two provincial teams (one of whom is coming last in their SR franchise). So no, NH rugby may improving but nowhere near the ABs.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 5:49pm
            Rock said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:49pm | ! Report

            Accept what? I’m not the one getting so emotional about a loss against a team who has been within a few points of the Wallabies the last half a dozen times they’ve played.

            Settle pettle.

            If they get beat against the Azuri then I’ll start to worry.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 5:53pm
              TC123 said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:53pm | ! Report

              Scotland wouldn’t beat Samoa so you do the math

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:27pm
                Robbo said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:27pm | ! Report

                Scotland are World no 6. Samoa world no 16

              • Roar Pro

                June 17th 2017 @ 6:35pm
                Clash said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:35pm | ! Report

                What a Silly billy.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:43pm
                Bakkies said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:43pm | ! Report

                Did you watch Samoa in the RWC? Scotland gave them a hiding

              • June 17th 2017 @ 9:40pm
                Rock said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:40pm | ! Report

                Bakkies, didn’t you know, the sky is falling!!!

            • June 17th 2017 @ 10:37pm
              BeastieBoy said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:37pm | ! Report

              Rock you have got to be kidding. How can we fix things and change management if we keep denying there is a problem. We are woeful. The ARU management has been inept for 20 years. Juniors and school players are wasting away. We must fix it. We can and should be the best in the world. If we start today it will take 8 years. Lets Start NOW!

              • June 18th 2017 @ 12:19pm
                Rock said | June 18th 2017 @ 12:19pm | ! Report

                Did I deny there was a problem with Australian rugby as whole? No.

                But, this Wallabies team is capable of much more then that, and I’m not one to get all emotional and suggest they’re doomed when they got beaten by a team who has close to a 40% win rate from the last 8 times they’ve played the WB.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 1:11pm
                stainlesssteve said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:11pm | ! Report

                Samoa comes up with a different team every time, because they have to scratch them back from clubs in Europe and Japan, if they can
                They get horrendous treatment from referees
                In a fair world with an even playing field, Samoa would be hovering around numbers 1 and 2 in world rugby, and looking good while they do it too

        • June 17th 2017 @ 6:01pm
          Spanners said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:01pm | ! Report

          Ha ha, NZ clubs teams are beating the absolute cream of NH rugby at the moment. Watch the game before offering expert opinion on said match.

          Would I be surprised if the ABs beat the this group of Wallabies by 100? Well 100 is a stretch, but somewhere in the 70s wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. In 2016 NZ rugby were next level compared to the rest of the world. This season they looked to have leveled up again (twice!) while Aus rugby has continued their slide downwards.

          Scary times ahead for our sport in Australia.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 9:21pm
            Buccaneer said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:21pm | ! Report

            Sorry but I haven’t watched the Wallabies for a long while. I didn’t have sound for the game.
            Was that Quade Cooper playing as 10? People always said how unreliable he was and I can see why. Missed kicks. Dropped catch. Ill discipline (what a clumsy shoulder charge) leading to another yellow card. Surely this Cooper guy will be out on his his ear?
            And was that Dean Mumm playing at 6? I didn’t realise he had long blonde hair under his scrum cap.
            Pretty soundly beaten by the Scots. Obviously a new coach for the Wallabies. Seemed quite surprised when the laws of rugby were being explained by the ref. I’m sure that once the coach has a couple of years with the Wallabies, they’ll come good.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 10:08pm
              double agent said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:08pm | ! Report

              Thought you had no sound? How did you hear the ref?

          • June 18th 2017 @ 1:15pm
            stainlesssteve said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

            Spanners, all it takes is a bunch of injuries, and the landscape changes considerably, overnight.
            No doubt in my mind, the Wallabies lost to Scotland on a bad hair day, to a team that’s on the rise.
            When it comes to the Bledisloe, the intensity goes up on both sides of the Tasman…’ll be a contest

        • Roar Rookie

          June 17th 2017 @ 6:31pm
          Shane D said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:31pm | ! Report

          Agree Rock, that wasn’t great stuff from the Wallabies but credit needs to be given to the Scots.
          I expect the AB’s to come out on top but predicting a score of 100 is over the top!

          • June 17th 2017 @ 7:04pm
            JamesWhinyMan said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:04pm | ! Report

            If the wobblies bring that game and the darkness bring their A game 70+ points against Cheika’s boys is very possible.

          • June 18th 2017 @ 2:56pm
            Jibba Jabba said | June 18th 2017 @ 2:56pm | ! Report

            Seems the Scot s had the attitude, the Wallabies the expectation, and no heart …

        • June 17th 2017 @ 9:19pm
          Darts vader said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:19pm | ! Report

          I watched it and its not hyperbole. They are rubbish on both defence and attack. The scots offered little and were still superior across the park. Watching the abs and Samoa last night and Samoa playing like that would put 35 on the wallabies

        • June 17th 2017 @ 10:21pm
          Chris R said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:21pm | ! Report

          Go and watch the game you’ll change your mind

      • June 17th 2017 @ 6:45pm
        AJ said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:45pm | ! Report

        Freddie I agree the Wallabies were rubbish but that wasn’t the only thing.
        Right from the start the whole presentation was a disgrace.. Get a professional in to sought out the pre game presentation.
        The last time I checked my tax paid for the Stadium not the Aboriginal land council.
        The referee was rubbish. This seems to be pretty constant thing with Rugby International games.
        Hunt, Hooper and Arnold were great and so Cooper for his short stay while Genia needs a holiday.
        The Scots were great although a bit sus with their tactics around the breakdown.
        If Rugby is going to survive we need to get things in order and put on a decent show from start to finish.
        If the laws are too hard for the referees to control change them.
        I guess after that rubbish I need a good strong SCOTCH.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 6:47pm
          Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:47pm | ! Report

          I having the Irish whiskey out…

          There is no one to replace Genia with. He had a terrible first 30 minutes but was decent afterwards, and he was excellent in 2016. Who do you suggest replacing him with?

          • June 17th 2017 @ 7:07pm
            John said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:07pm | ! Report

            Be sure to toast Israel Folau Fionn – Australia’s best player, again.

            No one in the history of the jersey has scored a try like he did today and zero players in world rugby are capable of emulating it.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 7:17pm
              Utah said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:17pm | ! Report

              Ummm, Damian Smith v England, 1995……..

            • June 17th 2017 @ 7:18pm
              Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:18pm | ! Report

              He’s the best attacker in the team when Kerevi is injured, but this I have never disagreed with—but once again his best work was when he was out on the wing, not when he was attacking from fullback.

              He and Hunt were the only Wallaby backs that didn’t embarrass themselves today.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:22pm
                nerval said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:22pm | ! Report

                He’s the best attacker in the team irrespective of Kerevi’s whereabouts, Fionn.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:28pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:28pm | ! Report

                “When Kerevi is injured”


                It wouldn’t be a surprise if Samu Kerevi has posters of Folau on his wall.

                Stop embarrassing yourself.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:32pm
                Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:32pm | ! Report


                Samu outplayed him in every game they played in gold together.

                That said, it isn’t a pissing contest, they’re the only two world class backs in the team.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:09pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:09pm | ! Report

                Haha I love how you rewrite history Fionn. Dribble, dribble dribble.

                On another note, Israel Folau generated national and international headlines for Australian Rugby on his own today, the same afternoon even the most rusted on rugby fans in this country are turning away.

                Tell us more about how he is overpaid..

              • Roar Guru

                June 17th 2017 @ 9:53pm
                PeterK said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:53pm | ! Report

                Cooper didn’t embarrass himself either

              • June 18th 2017 @ 11:08am
                William Tell said | June 18th 2017 @ 11:08am | ! Report

                Cooper didn’t embarrass himself? What a miserable assessment. The backline picked up the moment he came on. Long accurate passes to men with space in front of them; deft bakchand flicks to create openings.
                The persistent efforts to underrate and even denigrate this player are a disgrace.
                Almost as much a disgrace as the efforts by Foley to avoid using him.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 11:12am
                Fionn said | June 18th 2017 @ 11:12am | ! Report

                William, Peter I am a massive Quade fan.

                Sorry, I should have written ‘the only starting backs who didn’t embarrass themselves’. Agree that Cooper was electric when he came on.

            • Roar Guru

              June 17th 2017 @ 8:08pm
              taylorman said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:08pm | ! Report

              He caught a ball and fell over, the real quality of that try was Foleys timing and placement, it was perfect and that gave Folau the time he needed to focus on his leap, half of which wasn’t even needed.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:12pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:12pm | ! Report

                Yes! Let’s credit the great Bernard Foley for Folau “catching a ball and falling over.”

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:20pm
                Drongo said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:20pm | ! Report

                More a ‘spring’ than a ‘leap’.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:32pm
                Mango Jack said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:32pm | ! Report

                OK, so it takes 2 pieces of play to effect that try. A well timed and placed kick, and a well timed athletic leap. Foley and Folau both executed very well.

                Move on…

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:46pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:46pm | ! Report

                100% Mango.
                Headlines weren’t generated by Foley’s kick though, or a run of the mill catch and put down.
                The athletic ability, skill and timing involved on that grab was absolutely ridiculous – way outside the box.
                People pay money to see those moments and thet parrifulsr moment, at that level, never happens in rugby union.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:57pm
                Charlie Turner said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:57pm | ! Report

                Yeah he had about three other attempts that missed by the proverbial.

              • Roar Guru

                June 18th 2017 @ 1:50am
                ThugbyFan said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:50am | ! Report

                I was snakey with Folau when he scored that try. Yes it was an aerial delight that required the skills of B.Foley’s boot and Izzy’s great leap and catch. But why did he just fall over rather than run closer to the sticks? There wasn’t a Scot within cooee of him. As it happened B.Foley had an off-day with his goal kicking and missed the conversion.

              • Roar Guru

                June 18th 2017 @ 7:32am
                taylorman said | June 18th 2017 @ 7:32am | ! Report

                I think you have to assume that while you’re focussing 100% on taking the ball, especially with the hang time that one had, worst case scenario is that someone’s waiting to smash you as soon as you land, so scoring of the try is paramount.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 9:12am
                John said | June 18th 2017 @ 9:12am | ! Report

                And that your goal kicker can kick.

              • Roar Guru

                June 18th 2017 @ 6:45pm
                taylorman said | June 18th 2017 @ 6:45pm | ! Report

                No, at the time you aren’t thinking that. That’s the whole point…?

            • June 18th 2017 @ 1:20pm
              stainlesssteve said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:20pm | ! Report

              you’ve gotta be kidding. I’m a big fan of Izzy, but if he had his wits about him, he’d have stayed off the ground for a few secs and run that try around closer to the posts
              Also, have a look at some of the highlights packages on youtube…some stunning stuff there

          • June 17th 2017 @ 7:45pm
            Bakkies said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:45pm | ! Report

            Fionn he should have given Powell 20 minutes at least.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 9:00pm
              Charlie Turner said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:00pm | ! Report

              Looking at the vision of Cheika in the coaches box it’s clear he stopped making rational decisions about 8 minutes into the game.

              • Roar Guru

                June 18th 2017 @ 1:54am
                ThugbyFan said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:54am | ! Report

                Wrong Charlie, he stopped making rational decisions about 8000 minutes BEFORE the game. 🙁

              • June 18th 2017 @ 3:26pm
                Jibba Jabba said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:26pm | ! Report

                Yeah he is an emotional chap isn’t he, not a bad thing in itself but the players need a professional person and professional attitude from their coach and leader… .

        • June 17th 2017 @ 10:09pm
          double agent said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:09pm | ! Report

          I agree with everything you say except about the ref. Thought he went ok.

          • June 18th 2017 @ 3:28pm
            Jibba Jabba said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:28pm | ! Report

            Actually was one of barnes better performances.

            Got a shock when i saw hoffman running the line in the AB – Samoan game, he should not be allowed anywhere near a Tier 1 Test. who the h.. appoints these guys.

        • June 18th 2017 @ 3:40pm
          Cuw said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

          we must have watched different games – coz Wayne Barnes lived upto his fame as a very good NH ref.

          actually barnes peyper and OBrian all did their games very well. Raynal on the other hand looked overwhelmed for some reason.

          did not watch england game.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 8:18pm
        Noodles said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:18pm | ! Report

        As time goes on the most noticeable weakness in the wallabies is instinct. There were two terrible intercepts today where players did not sense the front foot situation of opponents and yet again Genia can’t clear kick with certainty.
        Wallabies could have won easily but made too many simple errors. Certainly two tries should not have been given up.
        If we can clean up those thoughts they can improve dramatically.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 10:10pm
          double agent said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:10pm | ! Report

          That’s all true but we make those same errors and play like that all the time.

    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:16pm
      Sportstragic said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:16pm | ! Report

      Congratulations Scotland! A well deserved win.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 5:48pm
        Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:48pm | ! Report

        Bang on mate. We just lost to their reserves. How bloody embarrassing.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 6:21pm
        Train Without A Station said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:21pm | ! Report

        Scotland A?

        Weren’t they only missing Laidlaw and Hogg?

        • June 17th 2017 @ 6:28pm
          Highlander said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:28pm | ! Report

          Seymour and the other gray

          • Roar Guru

            June 17th 2017 @ 7:02pm
            PeterK said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:02pm | ! Report

            then the wallabies are missing Beale, Kerevi, Speight

            Wallabies beaten by a hungrier team on the day

            • June 17th 2017 @ 7:19pm
              Utah said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:19pm | ! Report

              Not sure Beale, Kerevi, or Speight have ever been considered certain selections, not to mention the best 3 Wallaby players.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:23pm
                Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:23pm | ! Report

                Kerevi is the best back in the team, and Beale has been missed more than anyone.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:29pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:29pm | ! Report

                Hahaha tell us more Fionn!!

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:41pm
                Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:41pm | ! Report

                Yawn, well we can agree to disagree. They’re the two best attacking threats in the team, that i sure we can agree on, regardless of whom is better out of the two of them.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:47pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:47pm | ! Report

                One is a good player one is a superstar who has consistently topped attacking stats since the day he entered the sport. You are a gibberer.

              • Roar Guru

                June 17th 2017 @ 8:12pm
                taylorman said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:12pm | ! Report

                Isn’t it boring going on about the same player all the time? Borings probably not the word…weird, eerie, uncomfortable or even disturbing perhaps?

                Just sayin’?

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:50pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:50pm | ! Report

                Big fish small pond Taylorman.

                Feel free to put forward other positives to discuss in Australian Rugby, the general public is all ears.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 7:16am
                soapit said | June 18th 2017 @ 7:16am | ! Report

                im assuming john uses a different handle when talking about anything other than folau.

                this is also assuming that he does actually talk about anything other than folau

            • June 18th 2017 @ 3:29pm
              Jibba Jabba said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

              Why ??

          • June 17th 2017 @ 9:04pm
            Dawn Fraser said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

            Mark Bennet, Huw Jones, Richie Gray, Tim Visser, plus the 3 on tour with the lions

            • June 18th 2017 @ 1:36am
              Train Without A Station said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:36am | ! Report

              Injuries don’t count.

              We have injuries too.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 1:53am
                Scots Al said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:53am | ! Report

                The effect of injuries on the squad tends to depend on the player base you have to call on…

            • June 18th 2017 @ 6:41am
              Ken Catchpole's Other. Leg said | June 18th 2017 @ 6:41am | ! Report

              John, you have managed to do something rare. You have put me and T’man on the same team.
              Give it a rest mate. Constantly banging on about one player’s stats, quality, just desserts etc etc is boring, unnecessary and annoying.
              By the way no one is arguing Izzy’s quality. It is mainly about the number on his back.

              He was out of position for that punt that he let bounce into touch, and he lacked the vision after his aerial heroics to take the try around to the posts. He did not have a perfect game.
              If only the moderators could moderate repetitively boring posts?

          • June 17th 2017 @ 10:05pm
            Scots Al said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:05pm | ! Report

            Our pack were pretty much full strength, other than Dickinson or Sutherland at loosehead, and Richie Gray in the second row. Laidlaw would have been in the 23, but our back 3 were more Scotland A like – none of Tonks, Hughes or Jones have very many caps; Hogg, Seymour, Maitland and Visser would be first choices there, as would Huw Jones at 13 . Taylor usually plays 13, and Dunbar 12, but we did that one to ourselves…

            …I think we’re a better side than we’re given credit for, but until recently have been mentally weak, as evidence by our last 2 defeats to the Wallabies. Nice to see a bit of steel.

            Not sure all of the NH would agree the Lions are the absolute cream of the NH-the underperforming Welsh team are probably over-represented due to Gatland’s familiarity with them (and obsession with Warrenball™)

        • June 17th 2017 @ 7:36pm
          rebel said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:36pm | ! Report

          Read as two sentences to me with an exclamation mark in between.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 7:46pm
          Bakkies said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:46pm | ! Report

          Maitland, Visser, Huw Jones, Seymour

    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:16pm
      Norad said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:16pm | ! Report

      So AFL taught Izzy to catch a rugby ball? He scored plenty of tries for Storm just like today long before Sheedy bought him any cake.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 5:46pm
        craigo said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:46pm | ! Report

        Yep and a half dozen or so for the Broncos as well. Its only taken 5 years for the Rugby boys to catch on though. Doesn’t say a great deal for the supposed intellectual superiority of the rahs rahs one would have to say.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 5:50pm
          Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:50pm | ! Report

          Having watched quite a lot of afl over the years i naturally assumed their players were taught to drop the ball.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 6:03pm
            Norad said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:03pm | ! Report

            Never seen an AFL player catch the ball for a try. But according to some lazy media the AFL invented rugby players catching footballs apparently

            • June 17th 2017 @ 6:15pm
              Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:15pm | ! Report

              The afl spin machine yes indeed. The journalists who love unco paradise where you get a point for missing, a penalty for throwing the ball away when you get tackled and tackling is tickling in any case.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:21pm
                Rasty said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:21pm | ! Report

                Unco paradise. Mate I think you just watched that with the Wallabies. Shame of a game that it was.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:25pm
                Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:25pm | ! Report

                No argument there.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 6:17pm
              Dan in Devon said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:17pm | ! Report

              Johnny Wilkinson gave my son some advice a while ago- he told him to watch AFL to improve his kicking. My point is that AFL footballers are wonderful athletes and we would be churlish to think we can’t learn anything from them.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:20pm
                Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:20pm | ! Report

                In that regard i remain happily churlish.

              • Roar Rookie

                June 17th 2017 @ 7:06pm
                Shane D said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:06pm | ! Report

                You must love having Mick Byrne in the ARU coaching ranks then!

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:22pm
                Rasty said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:22pm | ! Report

                And supremely ignorant. You must live in a blissful bubble.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:27pm
                Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:27pm | ! Report

                Watched the game on and off for 50 years my friend. If i choose to have a view about it then that is as legitimate as yours.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:56pm
                craigo said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:56pm | ! Report

                I think the point in question was the assertion that Folau only learned to jump for balls in the air in the AFL. Which is complete BS.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:59pm
                Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:59pm | ! Report

                Spot on craigo. But in tbe tiny microscopic sport that is afl one can only expect this from its fanboys.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 7:15pm
                Rasty said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:15pm | ! Report

                I can agree with that, however he would have refined that art with Australian Football in his time in the AFL as it is one of the key skills.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:41pm
                Mango Jack said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:41pm | ! Report

                Agree Dan. In AFL, catching high balls while running or unbalanced is bread and butter stuff. Watch any game for 5 mins to see this. It’s a skill drilled into them from day 1.

                Folau took that ball with both hands extended, AFL-style. In NRL, they tend to take it on the chest. Fair to say that he learnt that from his time with GWS.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 8:51pm
                John said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:51pm | ! Report

                Go back and watch his Origin try at 19, even better than today’s try.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 12:25am
                Justin Kearney said | June 18th 2017 @ 12:25am | ! Report

                Well said john. The afl fanboys are deluded

              • June 18th 2017 @ 8:03am
                Norad said | June 18th 2017 @ 8:03am | ! Report

                Zero chance that the Aussie AFL national team will ever play Scotland in a bona fide international. I guess cheering Izzy catching a footy for the Wallabies is as close as they will ever get to global reach.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 6:06pm
            Rasty said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:06pm | ! Report

            None more than Folau and look he’s arguably the Wallabies best.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 9:54pm
              Dave said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:54pm | ! Report

              Not really a high bar tho is it.

        • June 17th 2017 @ 6:14pm
          Bakkies said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:14pm | ! Report

          Rugby doesn’t have a guaranteed kick after 5 phases

          • June 17th 2017 @ 6:17pm
            Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:17pm | ! Report

            If kiwis arent playing rugby generally doesnt deliver anything these days. The lions are clear evidence of this.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 6:19pm
            Fionn said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:19pm | ! Report

            Agreed, Bakkies. It should have been used more when we had a penalty advantage though, for years.

            Hard to do it when Izzy isn’t on the wing though.

            • June 17th 2017 @ 7:49pm
              Bakkies said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:49pm | ! Report

              ‘Agreed, Bakkies. It should have been used more when we had a penalty advantage though, for years.

              Hard to do it when Izzy isn’t on the wing though.’

              Larkham used it when he had tall wingers marking short ones. Gerrard and Tuqiri scored a lot of tries off cross kicks.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 3:46pm
                Cuw said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:46pm | ! Report

                yeah and Folau’s try shud be looked at in context.

                will they try it against Savea / ben Smith on the wing ?

                but credit shud go to Foley for identifying the mismatch, more than to Folau who did his core skill.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 6:04pm
                Bakkies said | June 18th 2017 @ 6:04pm | ! Report

                He might if Milner Skudder is back in the ABs. The Boks have a couple of targets in Rhule and Skosan.

                Ireland haven’t used it much since Shane Horgan retired

          • June 17th 2017 @ 7:11pm
            John said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:11pm | ! Report

            They’ve had a guaranteed try waiting to be scored for five years. Players including Foley incapable of reliably executing the kick. Criminal.

            • Roar Guru

              June 18th 2017 @ 8:23am
              taylorman said | June 18th 2017 @ 8:23am | ! Report

              Which kind of suggests the execution of the kick requires a higher skill level than the catch if it’s…’guaranteed’. I mean who can’t jump and take a ball? Cos he’s a foot higher than anyone else makes it worth more?

              Could have got a lot more done in five years than waiting around for that to happen.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 9:23am
                John said | June 18th 2017 @ 9:23am | ! Report

                The execution of a cross field kick doesn’t require a high skill level, especially when the receiver is so dominant. No one is better in either code, worldwide.

                Foley just can’t do it consistently, as evident by him kicking out on the full in the 2nd half while trying to repeat it.

              • Roar Guru

                June 18th 2017 @ 9:44am
                taylorman said | June 18th 2017 @ 9:44am | ! Report

                Well according to you he hasn’t done it in five years, doesn’t describe ‘easy’, aptly to me. And who in world rugby does do it ‘easily’. None that I know of.

                Barrett, Cruden and Sapoaga are probably amongst its best and most common exponents but they’re not putting out three of four tries a game from them because they’re ‘easy’, and that ain’t because they don’t have Folau either, as I can see that one coming.

                And Folau has stuffed up a few of them in his time as well.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 9:55am
                Fionn said | June 18th 2017 @ 9:55am | ! Report

                I think it’s fair to say that if they had Folau on the wing they would do it much more often than they do now.

                Their teams also have an attack that will generally score from 10m out, unlike Aussie teams – especially with those that have Foley at the helm.

              • June 18th 2017 @ 12:53pm
                John said | June 18th 2017 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

                He hasn’t done it in five years because his teammates are not able to consistently put the ball where it needs to be.

                They showed that yesterday on multiple occasions even after Foley executed it well.

                Scoring from cross field kicks does happen to come easy for Folau – always has.

                Appreciate it’s lower percentage and more often than not reserved for advantage plays in union, but when you have something/someone in your side who can do something outside the box that is very difficult/nigh impossible to defend, it should be utilised all the time.

        • June 18th 2017 @ 3:30pm
          Jibba Jabba said | June 18th 2017 @ 3:30pm | ! Report

          Have you met your coaching team…

    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:20pm
      Jigbon said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:20pm | ! Report

      Well with that Ozzie performance we will be thrashed by the nuns. Scotland played well and we just made mistake after mistake and what’s with the stupid kicks still. Omg. Why oh why. And poor support play with minimal urgency. Will Genia had his worst game in a long time too. Forwards had minimal go forward and lacked cohesion and pace. Apart from hooper. The saga continues. Same s…t. Different year. Sorry.

    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:23pm
      Cakes said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:23pm | ! Report

      Looks like we will lose to Italy also on that performance. No wonder though our ‘super’ rugby sides are rubbish

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        June 18th 2017 @ 12:39am
        biltongbek said | June 18th 2017 @ 12:39am | ! Report

        You have to be as crap as the Springboks to lose to Italy

        • June 18th 2017 @ 7:16am
          Ruckin' Oaf said | June 18th 2017 @ 7:16am | ! Report

          We’re slowly but surely working our way there 🙂

    • June 17th 2017 @ 5:23pm
      RahRah said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:23pm | ! Report

      FFS, my national team is a pathetic disgrace and the ARU want to kill my team and the game in my state. Why the F$%k do I bother?

      • June 17th 2017 @ 5:33pm
        The Desert Nut said | June 17th 2017 @ 5:33pm | ! Report

        It’s a sad joke isn’t it? Well a fish rots from the head down and that’s what we’ve got going on in Australian rugby. A totally inept ARU followed by an inept coaching staff. Larkham can’t coach an attack, Grey seems to have a different definition of defence in his head to the rest of us and Cheika continues to make poor selections while we’re banging our heads against our TVs watching our national team. Same mistakes, no lessons learned. It’s Einstein’s definition of insanity. I somewhat hope that we embarrass ourselves against Italy next weekend in the hope that it lights the bomb under the people at the top to get them to do something. The ARU should all resign and the current coaching staff gone as well. The people have run out of patience. There are two years left until the next world cup, better to get someone new in, from outside the whole rotten setup here and give them the time to get us ready for 2019. I don’t believe that we don’t have the cattle, I believe our lack of decent coaching and management is killing the game here.

        • June 18th 2017 @ 11:22am
          William Tell said | June 18th 2017 @ 11:22am | ! Report

          Less ego from Cheika and more intelligent strategising would go long way.

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