Tahs’ Daryl Gibson: ‘I’m not a bad coach’


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    NSW Waratahs coach Daryl Gibson says one bad Super Rugby season doesn’t make him a bad coach.

    The Tahs are running fourth out of five Australian teams with just four wins from 14 games going into Saturday’s final round match with Western Force in Perth.

    “It’s certainly been a challenge and one that I’ve really learnt a great deal from and that’s coaching,”Gibson said.

    “Having one bad season doesn’t make me a bad coach. I’ll certainly learn from it, treat it all as feedback and get about trying to transform it and do it quickly.”

    Gibson revealed the Tahs had utilised a sports psychologist this year and would continue to do so.

    “When you’re under financial constraints it’s usually the first thing that gets axed in a program and one that’s a luxury to have,” Gibson said.

    “It’s certainly one that we’ve invested in, we recognise the need for one and going forward it’s certainly going to be a part of our program.”

    Gibson made one change to his starting side for Saturday..

    Winger Taqele Naiyaravoro replaces Bryce Hegarty who suffered a hamstring strain in last weekend’s loss to the Jaguares.

    Wallabies’ halfback Nick Phipps returns on the bench for his first selection since suffering an ankle in late may.

    “There’s bound to be a little bit of rustiness, so we decided against starting him and we’re going with Jake (Gordon),” Gibson said.

    Wallabies front rowers Paddy Ryan and Tolu Latu were unavailable due to elbow and neck injuries respectively.

    Gibson expects the Force to target his team’s ruck defence after they were exposed in that area last week.

    “No doubt the Force would have seen that, they will be coming at us there, so we’ve done a lot of work around making sure thats really solid.”

    Waratahs team (15-1): Israel Folau,Taqele Naiyaravoro, Rob Horne, David Horwitz, Cam Clark, Bernard Foley, Jake Gordon, Michael Wells, Michael Hooper (capt), Jack Dempsey, Dean Mumm, Ned Hanigan, Sekope Kepu, Damien Fitzpatrick, Tom Robertson. Replacements: Hugh Roach, David Lolohea, AngusTaavao, David McDuling, Ryan McCauley, Nick Phipps, Mack Mason, Andrew Kellaway.

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    • July 14th 2017 @ 7:58am
      bigbaz said | July 14th 2017 @ 7:58am | ! Report

      Guess he can be thankful that the NSW blues are as bad as the Tahs, at least they kept the Tahs out of the news this week.

    • July 14th 2017 @ 8:17am
      Waxhead said | July 14th 2017 @ 8:17am | ! Report

      Gibson is a good coach imo and it’s proved by him having good success with other teams in past years.
      He’s not the problem – it’s the playing squad.
      So if he stays he needs to replace most of the players with one’s who have the required passion, pride, will to win and skill.
      The current squad clearly does not.

      Gibson has encountered the same issues every single coach past 20 years has found at Waratahs.
      But Cheika over 2 years was the only coach who was able to resolve it.
      It’s the same disease effecting the whole NSW franchise and why I’m no longer a Tahs fan.

      Too many private school nancy boys in the NSW admin & playing squad.
      Full of Sydney north shore poor little rich kids who don’t have the required mongrel, passion and skill to compete with the best in hard nose dog fights.
      Gibson is an ex All Black and has what it takes – he’s a winner and a hard bastard.
      NSW Rugby is not and have no hope until there’s a clean sweep of admin & the playing squad.

      • July 14th 2017 @ 8:40am
        Woodsman said | July 14th 2017 @ 8:40am | ! Report

        I think the Tahs resurgence had more to do with Potgeiter than anything. Genuinely relished contact and it rubbed off on those around him…briefly.

        • July 14th 2017 @ 11:20am
          Jock Cornet said | July 14th 2017 @ 11:20am | ! Report

          Potgeiger should have got thee keys to the city. He won us that title

        • July 14th 2017 @ 1:09pm
          Marlin said | July 14th 2017 @ 1:09pm | ! Report


        • July 14th 2017 @ 1:26pm
          ajg said | July 14th 2017 @ 1:26pm | ! Report

          I miss Potgeiter so much. That was when the Tahs pack was formidable and had proper mongrel and ferocity. what’s he doing now?

          • Roar Rookie

            July 14th 2017 @ 1:35pm
            piru said | July 14th 2017 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

            Surely you’re not suggesting the amazing NSW talent conveyor belt failed and an import made the difference?

            • July 14th 2017 @ 5:23pm
              Jock Cornet said | July 14th 2017 @ 5:23pm | ! Report

              Stones and glasshouses. When the force produce a decent player and win a couple of games get back to us as you have stolen a tin if Shute shield players

              • Roar Rookie

                July 14th 2017 @ 5:37pm
                piru said | July 14th 2017 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

                We’re going to finish ahead of you this year and we’ve won 3 of our last 5 matchups so….

              • July 14th 2017 @ 8:10pm
                Train Without A Station said | July 14th 2017 @ 8:10pm | ! Report

                You begrudge the Shute Shield players getting a career?

                Bitter nobody.

      • July 14th 2017 @ 10:52am
        puff said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:52am | ! Report

        WH, there is no dispute regarding Gibson’s C/V and passion for the code, I don’t believe that was ever in question. But all season the Tah’s have not performed at the highest level considering their player register. In fact the results have been less than impressive and there’s the disparity. Is there and issue with commitment, as there is no ability to demonstrate authority or display the intensity needed to play dominant rugby. The Jaguares last week was a kind example of how inefficient they execute game management, playing against 13 men they continue with this desire to kick. Once the Jaguares returned to full strength, their capacity to display composure was suddenly impacted; the wheels fell off and the rest is history. The Force are playing for pride and try hard to please their indulgent public, hence have the feeling this maybe another wakeup call for the Tah’s.

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          July 14th 2017 @ 11:10am
          jeznez said | July 14th 2017 @ 11:10am | ! Report

          I think his resume can be disputed – this is as far as I am aware his first head coaching role. He was an assistant at the Crusaders and then assistant at the Waratahs.

          I’m more interested in Cron joining – nephew of the scrum guru and the guy who in a head coaching role brought Norths their premiership.

          • July 14th 2017 @ 7:36pm
            Chivas said | July 14th 2017 @ 7:36pm | ! Report

            So is that the new saviour, you’re hanging your hat on… and his credentials are…far less than Darryl Gibson’s. Oh he is the brother of Mick and coaches senior club footy in Australia. He has definitely a proven option.

            • July 15th 2017 @ 12:10am
              Bib said | July 15th 2017 @ 12:10am | ! Report

              Shouldn’t you be whining about a French ref?

            • Roar Guru

              July 15th 2017 @ 10:37am
              jeznez said | July 15th 2017 @ 10:37am | ! Report

              He has at least tasted success as a head coach.

              But then again I am not calling for Daryl’s head.

              All I responded to was that his credentials are open to question given he hadn’t been a head coach before and that I was excited about the new guy joining.

              I’m certainly hoping Cron brings more to the outfit than Grey did.

              • July 15th 2017 @ 12:02pm
                Chivas said | July 15th 2017 @ 12:02pm | ! Report

                I’m not really having a rack Jez, but being related to someone who know a bit about scrums and has coached NRC… I’m not holding my breath. I hope he does bring something extra to the forwards, because they don’t seem to be working effectively together.. but it is a big task.

                And I agree about Nathan. Not sure why you need him and Gibson. Gibson was a smart defensive centre in his day and helped with the engineering of the Crusaders backline.. so it always seem we had too much overlap in that department but lacking in the forwards area.

                So I am not totally trashing your idea. I just don’t think it is the silver bullet.

        • July 14th 2017 @ 5:22pm
          Waxhead said | July 14th 2017 @ 5:22pm | ! Report

          @ Puff – yes but you guys continue to totally MISS the point.
          Why wont the penny ever drop with NSW fans.
          Who cares about last weeks game, or this weeks.
          This has been the normal Tah crap for 20 YEARS.

          2 years from Cheika & 1 from Mackenzie excepted nothing ever changes at NSW.
          100s of players, a dozen coaches, same issues, same crap week in week out and no-one ever learns.
          And the reasons for it are equally obvious.

          A franchise dominated by the Sydney north shore private school elite that are too soft, too corrupt and too stupid to compete at the top level. They just buy in soft kids from private schools that get eaten by hard as nails REAL athletes from NZ, Sth Africa and Argentina.
          Jobs for the boys of their mates they play golf with.
          Nothing will ever change at NSW Rugby until the whole administration goes – everyone.
          Needs 5 years and a complete cultural change.

          Brumbies have their problems but at least they play with pride, passion and undoubted will to win.
          Win, lose of draw that’s at least something we can be proud of.
          NSW are a joke and a farce imo.

          • Roar Guru

            July 15th 2017 @ 10:38am
            jeznez said | July 15th 2017 @ 10:38am | ! Report

            Yep, their north shore private school boys are so much tougher!

          • July 15th 2017 @ 12:30pm
            puff said | July 15th 2017 @ 12:30pm | ! Report

            WH, you are obviously very passionate about the code and have expressed your reasons why the Tah’s manifestly underperform and are not worthy of their place at the top table. Although I continually have my enthusiasm for the Rebels questioned every time they take the paddock. I’m never deterred or discouraged by their lack of sustainability. The team has heart but not player depth, in critical areas and will only be a contender when this imbalance is addressed. The Tah’s have a very different pedigree, old school, old money and clubs with history; they have a playing register which contains half the Wallabies. But, struggle to produce an 80 minute performance when playing in front of home crowd. If the Force or the Rebels had this level of history and sponsorship the Tah’s future would be in question not the clubs further south or west.

    • Roar Rookie

      July 14th 2017 @ 8:25am
      Huw Tindall said | July 14th 2017 @ 8:25am | ! Report

      Bloody hell this Tahs side is starting to look weak, especially in the tight 5. When you’ve got a fresh blood U20s player on the bench in your second row you know you are in trouble. Sure Ryan McCauley has a future ahead of him but talk about the deep end. Anyhow, good luck Tahs!

    • July 14th 2017 @ 9:15am
      Gman said | July 14th 2017 @ 9:15am | ! Report

      Ta’avo – Robinson – Guildford

      Maybe not a bad coach – is he the right coach?
      Mr Cron (Norths) ia an excellent appointment
      Losing Taff hurt
      Losing Mumm and Horne (although servants to NSWRU) wont
      Losing Lucas isnt smart but enevitable
      Skelton has never been whipped hard enough to shape.up….shame he could have been great

      Losing fans is the big one this year

      • Roar Guru

        July 14th 2017 @ 10:42am
        Train Without A Station said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:42am | ! Report

        I disagree Cron is an “excellent” appointment.

        He may be a very good appointment. Seems likely at this stage.

        But he’s been rushed in off a good start to his career at this level. Ultimately he’s had one good year. 2016. Hardly a long proven track record all the way up.

        How good were Easts forward pack in 2014 under him for example?

        A year ago he was coaching amateurs and had not even coached at NRC level.

        • July 14th 2017 @ 7:39pm
          Chivas said | July 14th 2017 @ 7:39pm | ! Report

          But TWAS, now he is coaching the cream of World rugby… an NRC side. That’s enough and he is related to Mick Cron. Must be the best option. He will lead the Tahs out of this mess. Probably should be being appointed as Wallabies head coach with credentials like those.

    • July 14th 2017 @ 9:29am
      Bfc said | July 14th 2017 @ 9:29am | ! Report

      Jeez…their Sports Psychologist hasn’t helped much…Though to be fair, he probably doesn’t teach how to catch/kick/pass/run/tackle..

      • July 14th 2017 @ 10:04am
        wyn said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:04am | ! Report

        Nah, he did a great job. I recall an interview Hooper did after their road trip where they had been belted and Hooper saying what a success the tour had been :). Psychologically very resilient to losing!

    • July 14th 2017 @ 9:30am
      Paul D said | July 14th 2017 @ 9:30am | ! Report

      One bad year maybe doesn’t make you a bad coach. But what about 2 bad years? Out of 2…

      • Roar Guru

        July 14th 2017 @ 10:43am
        Train Without A Station said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:43am | ! Report

        The fact is he’s probably a bad, or at least not a good, Head Coach.

        • July 14th 2017 @ 5:08pm
          Jacko said | July 14th 2017 @ 5:08pm | ! Report

          You cant coach nags to win a melbourne cup no matter how good you are

        • July 14th 2017 @ 7:45pm
          Chivas said | July 14th 2017 @ 7:45pm | ! Report

          Yeah, because every head coach can just walk into a team and get them winning all the important games. Look at what Chieka has done with the Wallabies… took them to the finals in the WC. Oh yeah but against Scotland or Fiji not quite so good…. but hey that’s ok. He’s a top coach and after all most Australian fans know what a good coach is. I mean look at Hansen. He’s a grub and useless after all Marto’s grandmother could coach the AB’s.

          Much tougher gig coaching the Wallabies. Just don’t look too deep I would suggest and everything makes perfect sense. Best coaches in the world are coming out of Aus.

          • July 14th 2017 @ 8:12pm
            Train Without A Station said | July 14th 2017 @ 8:12pm | ! Report

            How does the performance compare to what he walked into?

            A judgement of a coach is generally the differences.

            The difference is the Waratahs used to win before he was Head Coach.

            • July 15th 2017 @ 11:41am
              Chivas said | July 15th 2017 @ 11:41am | ! Report

              That is the point TWAS. You simply have no idea about any of the details or different challenges facing different coaches or how the landscape has changed or even what coaching strengths they have.

              But seem to be able to determine who is a bad coach based on a base measure which on its own is about as useful as stats.

              I don’t know the finer details either… but the simple formulas put up by some Aussie fans like yourself as irrefutable evidence are seriously lacking.

              Rennie has had good years and lean years.. so one year he is a good coach next he is garbage and that is with a team with greater talent than the Tahs imho.

              Deans had a winning record, but is not a good coach according to many Aussie fans. Oh that is right, that’s because they were already winning. Which is why Ewen was such an awesome coach because it was after he left (the day after virtually) the team fell apart. In Australia coaches have no legacy but in NZ you don’t give coaches respect because the legacy was already laid.

              I have seen this nonsense spouted here for years. No real understanding just thought bubbles based on scant information. It’s a nonsense TWAS on my view, and certainly not the basis by which I would be determine who and who is not a bad coach.. you really appear to have next to no idea

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 12:45pm
                Train Without A Station said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:45pm | ! Report

                If you inherit a winning team, clearly it has been capable of winning.

                Not that much can change in a year.

                If you inherit a cellar dwelling team there’s little to suggest it is capable of winning.

                Good coaches improve teams’ performances, not ride them down the ladder. End of story.

                Most of the changes that occur, do so due to what the coach puts in place.

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 12:54pm
                PeterK said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

                twas – exactly

                The more time Gibson has had to mould the team, to select more of the players, to define the style of play and culture the worse they have become.

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 1:02pm
                Train Without A Station said | July 17th 2017 @ 1:02pm | ! Report

                That’s certainly my biggest criticism of Cheika as Wallabies coach. The longer he has been in the job, the worse the team has looked and also many of the individual performances.

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 1:09pm
                PeterK said | July 17th 2017 @ 1:09pm | ! Report

                the difference is Cheika has the ability to get a team to a high level, the trouble is he can’t keep them there.

                He is a great change agent, does what is needed to turnaround the ship, the break down whatever walls are needed.

                But it seems he is a comet, shoots fast and hot and for a short time and can’t adapt or change once others have worked his teams out.

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 1:15pm
                Train Without A Station said | July 17th 2017 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

                Peter I also think he only is really effective in an under-performing team with underlying talent, due to his limitations.

                He isn’t tactically astute enough to develop a plan to maximize the potential of what he has at his disposal. He merely tries to implement what he knows/suits him.

      • July 14th 2017 @ 10:46am
        Worlds Biggest said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:46am | ! Report

        Last year wasn’t bad in the context of this season. Last year they finished 8-8 and were in the playoff hunt until the end. They also notched up big wins against the Chiefs and Stormers. All the while Gibson was giving plenty of new guys a run as the team was rebuilding after the loss of several key veterans. This gave me optimism for this season which has turned out to be a disaster.

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          July 14th 2017 @ 10:56am
          Paul D said | July 14th 2017 @ 10:56am | ! Report

          From 2014 Champions, and 2015 finalists losing to the eventual winners. I see missing the finals all together as a bad year.

          Cheika had an 8-8 season in his first year after a 4-12 season in 2012. I consider an 8-8 season a pass in that context. It’s not a pass coming off an 11-5 season before he took over.

          • July 14th 2017 @ 6:21pm
            Worlds Biggest said | July 14th 2017 @ 6:21pm | ! Report

            You make some valid points which I agree with, that said last year was always going to be a transition season imo. When you lose quality players such as Kepu, Douglas, Pots, AAC and then Beale to injury, that’s a huge amount of experience. I gave Gibson a pass mark last season. This season has been a debacle.

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