Beaten Crows won’t rest AFL players: Pyke

By Steve Larkin,

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    Adelaide coach Don Pyke says there is no chance his AFL pacesetters will put the proverbial cue in the rack next weekend.

    The Crows slipped to a three-point loss to Sydney on Friday night but are still guaranteed a top-two finish.

    But Pyke says he won’t be resting players in next Sunday’s last regular-season match, against West Coast in Perth.

    “We will take a no-risk policy with guys,” Pyke said after the loss to the Swans.

    “But you have got be very careful because then you get a week’s break, and then you go into the finals.

    “So if guys don’t play next week, there’s a chance they won’t have played a game for nearly 20-odd days into the first final.

    “We want to go to West Coast and play to win. It will be the same mentality … I’m a great believer that at the end of it, the way we want to play is habit.

    “And we need to keep building those good habits.”

    Pyke was far from downcast at the defeat to Sydney, saying it offered a great learning opportunity.

    “When you finish the wrong side of the ledger by three points, you’re disappointed. But that is life, sometimes you end up there,” Pyke said.

    “We did a lot right but we didn’t get the result.

    “We learn every game and what we learnt was we’re more than capable of matching it against a side like Sydney and pushing them right to the end.

    “That is what high-pressure, finals-type footy is about – it’s an arm wrestle.

    “And you have just got be able to stay in the arm wrestle for long enough to get your opportunities.”

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    • August 19th 2017 @ 7:41am
      Roger of Sydney said | August 19th 2017 @ 7:41am | ! Report

      All due respect for the Crows they are the real deal, their poor kicking helped the Swans stay in the game and the one sided umpiring helped the Crows stay in the game. Sloane is perhaps our new endangered species and needs to be protected.

      Couple of things came out of this game, firstly Heeny is not a tagger, he is not good at it and we lost his fast hands else where, should have been Jones or Papply on Sloane. The Swans when they were fresh easily controlled the game but they looked very tired and very sore. The week off will help them. Great game just a pity about the umpiring , having said that the ups were good into not getting sucked in to deliberate, I don’t think they payed any.

      • August 19th 2017 @ 9:22am
        mdso said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:22am | ! Report

        Probably one of the worst displays of umpiring all year. The umpires actually surpassed themselves.
        In terms of umpiring it would be a good video to show trainee umpires this game had it all.

        • Roar Guru

          August 19th 2017 @ 9:29am
          Cat said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:29am | ! Report

          There were mistakes as always but the standard was no worse than anything else seen this year.

        • August 19th 2017 @ 11:04am
          Basil said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:04am | ! Report

          …because Heeney couldn’t stop scragging Sloane?

      • August 19th 2017 @ 1:05pm
        Micko said | August 19th 2017 @ 1:05pm | ! Report

        George Hewitt should have tagged Sloane. So underrated with hard ball gets as well.

    • August 19th 2017 @ 8:35am
      Kane said | August 19th 2017 @ 8:35am | ! Report

      That 50 metre penalty was a shocker and a bit of a game changer, even Mills thought he was pinged for holding the ball. I’ve always thought that rule was a bit silly where you have to wait until the umpire calls play on. It was a great game to watch though.

      • Roar Guru

        August 19th 2017 @ 9:10am
        Cat said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:10am | ! Report

        Umpires need to be quicker to call play on when a player steps over the line; however, because the umpire didn’t the 50 was the right call.

        What was worse was allowing Franklin to run 20-25 metres before kicking his goal of the year contender. Watch the replay you can see he regains control of his fumbled bounce at the very start of one cut of grass and only kicks it two full cuts of grass later (each grass stripe is 10m wide).

        • August 19th 2017 @ 10:02am
          Darren said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:02am | ! Report

          He took 14 steps Gene. No one will be pinged when that happens. I was sitting in that pocket sensational moment.

          • Roar Guru

            August 19th 2017 @ 10:19am
            Cat said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:19am | ! Report

            14 x 1.5m per step = 21 metres ran without bouncing. Shoulda been pinging.

            • Roar Guru

              August 19th 2017 @ 10:32am
              Cat said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:32am | ! Report


            • Roar Rookie

              August 19th 2017 @ 12:01pm
              Lamby said | August 19th 2017 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

              When Atkins got pinged twice for running too far when one of them he moved about 5m!

          • August 20th 2017 @ 11:38am
            Craig Delaney said | August 20th 2017 @ 11:38am | ! Report

            I was in that pocket too. “How far can you run?!” I yelled even before he kicked it. This after the umps had already been on the ball with two against Atkins. But it was Buddy and the umps don’t seem to factor in length of stride. Atkins had little steps and I think the second against him was touch and go.

        • Roar Guru

          August 19th 2017 @ 10:30am
          XI said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:30am | ! Report

          Think about every short mark ever paid. If the rules were enforced as wrote, no one can run that far without bouncing it. That’s a lot of missed free kicks you’re claiming.

      • Roar Guru

        August 20th 2017 @ 12:28pm
        gameofmarks said | August 20th 2017 @ 12:28pm | ! Report

        Actually there is nothing in the Rules of the Game that states the ball is not in play until the Umpire calls ‘Play-On’. IMO it is incorrect for Umpires to state that they hadn’t called ‘Play-On’ when paying a free kick such as the one against Betts on Friday night.

        There are four main reasons for awarding a Free Kick as per 15.1.1 of the Rules of The Game:

        A Free Kick shall be awarded to:

        (a). Ensure the match is played in a fair manner;
        (b). Provide a player, who makes obtaining possession of the ball their sole objective, every opportunity to obtain possession;
        (c). Protect players from sustaining injury; and
        (d). A player who executes a correct tackle which results in an opponent failing to dispose of the ball in accordance with these rules.

        By not paying a free kick to Betts on Friday night the umpire disregarded Rule 15.1.1(a), (b) and (d).

        But the umpire didn’t call ‘Play-On’ everyone is shouting.

        Well to counter this argument Rule 15.1.2 – Awarding Free Kicks states:

        In addition to any other circumstances described elsewhere in these Laws, a Free Kick shall be awarded to or against a player, as the case may be, when a field Umpire considers that any of the circumstances set out in this Law 15 occur, irrespective of whether the football is in play.

        Now we all know that Mills played on so now Rule 15.2.3 Holding the Football – Prior Opportunity/No Prior opportunity comes into play.

        Obviously Mills had prior opportunity and clearly Betts’ tackle was a correctly executed tackle. Therefore, even though the ball was not in play, because the Umpire had not signaled ‘Play-On’, Rule 15 prevails whether or not the ball is In play.

        So the Umpire should have awarded a free kick to Betts.

        • Roar Guru

          August 20th 2017 @ 12:53pm
          Cat said | August 20th 2017 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

          16.1.2 Protected Area
          The Protected Area is a corridor which extends from 10 metres either
          side of The Mark to 10 metres either side of, and 5-metre arc behind,
          the Player with the football, as illustrated in Diagram 2. No Player shall
          enter and remain in the Protected Area unless the field Umpire calls
          “Play On”
          or the Player from the opposing Team is accompanying or
          following within 2 metres of their opponent. Any Player caught in
          the Protected Area must make every endeavour to clear the
          Protected Area immediately


          18.1 WHEN IMPOSED
          Where a field Umpire has awarded a Free Kick or a Mark to a Player, the field
          Umpire shall also award a Fifty-Metre Penalty in favour of that Player if the
          field Umpire is of the opinion that any Player or Official from the opposing side:
          (a) has encroached The Mark;
          (e) enters the Protected Area, except when the Player is accompanying or
          following within 2 metres of their opponent;

          • Roar Guru

            August 20th 2017 @ 1:02pm
            gameofmarks said | August 20th 2017 @ 1:02pm | ! Report

            Neither of those laws applies in this instance IMO. Betts was standing the mark when Mills was awarded the mark and the protected area does not extend forward of the mark, which is where Mills played on into..

            In any case rule 15 regarding Free kicks, specifically 15.1 (a) and 15.1.2 prevails these 2 rules.

            • Roar Guru

              August 20th 2017 @ 1:12pm
              Cat said | August 20th 2017 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

              Actually Betts came from behind/the side of Mills. He never got out of the protected area.

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2017 @ 1:21pm
                gameofmarks said | August 20th 2017 @ 1:21pm | ! Report

                That is splitting hairs and what you are arguing is that every player that is in the protected area, after Mills marked the ball, should be pinged for a 50m penalty straight away without being given time to exit the protected area. A very spurious interpretation of the rule.

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2017 @ 3:47pm
                Cat said | August 20th 2017 @ 3:47pm | ! Report

                He was in the protected area. Play on was not called. Therefore he cannot touch the opposition player.

              • August 20th 2017 @ 11:14pm
                Craig Delaney said | August 20th 2017 @ 11:14pm | ! Report

                The player who took the mark did not go behind the mark but played on. If the player himself does not honour the mark why should all other players but him be bound by it? By playing on the mark was rendered null and void, and so there was no protected zone because there was no mark. Except in the head of the umpire who made this mistake. Did it affect the course of the game? Sure it did. Those who argue that it all evens out, or that the Crows lost it purely on kicking for goal or a poor first term are right, but we all know that their momentum at a crucial moment was lost.
                Franklins’ long run to glory was another very telling moment in the game.
                Sydney were very lucky to win this game.

    • August 19th 2017 @ 8:52am
      Swannies said | August 19th 2017 @ 8:52am | ! Report

      Can’t see Crows making the Grand Final from here. Swans can lift another gear in September.

      • August 19th 2017 @ 9:47am
        Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:47am | ! Report

        To the contrary. Swans were at full tilt and after 1/4 time got beat in the area they have been strongest and that was contested ball. Swans were lucky to not lose that game by 6 goals such was the poor goalkicking on the night by the crows and the unbelievable accuracy of the swans. Longmire will need to review that game carefully as he will know that the crows having 63 inside 50’s to 41 with such a contested ball advantage would win that game 99 times out of 100. They know the crows midfield is at least the equal of theirs after yesterday. I think they will want to play anyone else in the finals rather than have to come back to adelaide

      • August 19th 2017 @ 3:29pm
        Rex said | August 19th 2017 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

        Crows have three more gears mate – your lot kicked the eyes out of everything – crows missed 6 sitters.
        I guess you won’t acknowledge that though

        • August 19th 2017 @ 4:26pm
          Mark said | August 19th 2017 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

          Poor kicking is poor footy. Ifs, shoulds etc. you got beaten by the hungrier team. No shame in that.

          • August 19th 2017 @ 5:50pm
            Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 5:50pm | ! Report

            They must not have been that hungry then as they had less scoring shots, less inside 50’s, less contested possessions, less overall possessions…or maybe the hungrier team just had a dreadful night in front of goal and the one that won got really lucky

            • August 19th 2017 @ 7:14pm
              Mark said | August 19th 2017 @ 7:14pm | ! Report

              Keep telling yourself that pal.

              • August 19th 2017 @ 9:03pm
                Basil said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:03pm | ! Report

                I know you are but what am I?

                …sorry, I thought we were back at primary school.

              • August 19th 2017 @ 10:00pm
                Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:00pm | ! Report

                Dont like facts eh

      • August 20th 2017 @ 11:40am
        Craig Delaney said | August 20th 2017 @ 11:40am | ! Report

        Adelaide took a lot out of that game. Nervous early because of Sydney’s reputation and last years final, but outscoring and in many ways outplaying them. A definite contender.

    • August 19th 2017 @ 9:53am
      truetigerfan said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:53am | ! Report

      Reasonable thinking if you’re on the losing side. I rather think that the Swans have more improvement left in them. The stats you mention won’t be, I believe, repeated if there is a next time. Great game all the same. Swans certainly are coming and have no-one to fear now that the Hawks are probably done and dusted.

      • August 19th 2017 @ 9:59am
        Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 9:59am | ! Report

        Too right they wont be way do sydney kick 11.1 by late in the match and guys like betts, jenkins, douglas and cameron miss absolute gimme sitters in front of goal. Think like this..crows played 3 games in 13 days and lost the 1st 1/4 badly and still managed 63 inside 50’s against supposedly the best team in the comp. Unless longmire held back a few tricks (why would he when his team had to win to stay in the hunt for top 4), then as they were at full strength player wise, where can the improvement come from

        • Roar Pro

          August 19th 2017 @ 11:01am
          Davico said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:01am | ! Report

          Reverse the free kick count and see what the inside 50 comparison is!

          • August 19th 2017 @ 11:18am
            Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:18am | ! Report

            Rubbish.. most crows frees were legit anyway and the umps still missed plenty for them..but if you go in with a game plan to scrag and hold your opponents then that is what happens. To posdibly suggest frees were the only thing that stopped sydney winning by more is the funniest thing i have heard all season. They were comprehensively beaten in most facets of the game and got lucky on the night with goalkicking results both ways

            • August 19th 2017 @ 11:36am
              Fairsuckofthesav said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:36am | ! Report

              Love your passion and reason Sammy. Crows need to tidy up their kicking under pressure. But
              Clearly they have improved from last year. Bring on the finals!

              • August 19th 2017 @ 12:33pm
                Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 12:33pm | ! Report

                Cant argue with that..good call fsots

            • August 19th 2017 @ 4:27pm
              Mark said | August 19th 2017 @ 4:27pm | ! Report

              Your poor sportsmanship makes the victory even sweeter.
              Suck it up diddums!

              • August 19th 2017 @ 5:00pm
                Mitcher said | August 19th 2017 @ 5:00pm | ! Report

                Amen Mark.

                I’ve decided, in a monumental display of generosity, to machine post like a smug bad winner to offer poor ol Sammy’s sore loser act.

              • August 19th 2017 @ 5:53pm
                Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 5:53pm | ! Report

                Hehe..poor loser implies we got beat by an inferior side. Ok graciously sydney won by losing all over the ground and being blessed that the opponent could not hit a barn door on the night..well done

              • August 20th 2017 @ 11:16am
                Mitcher said | August 20th 2017 @ 11:16am | ! Report

                No, that’s not what that common term means. It means you lost (accurate) and you’re acting like a poor human (evident).

              • August 20th 2017 @ 3:46pm
                Sammy said | August 20th 2017 @ 3:46pm | ! Report

                And you are fool enough to believe sydney deserved to win that game. They got lucky mate..that’s all and based on that performance i have every confidence the crows will not be so unlucky next time

              • August 20th 2017 @ 3:50pm
                Sammy said | August 20th 2017 @ 3:50pm | ! Report


          • August 19th 2017 @ 1:12pm
            Razzar said | August 19th 2017 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

            As an impartial viewer, I couldn’t see what the fuss is about. I’ve seen far more games poorly umpired. I’d give that a pass mark. I agree with Carey and BT. The umps were mostly invisible last night.
            The better kicking team won last night. But the better team overall, would be kicking themselves.

    • August 19th 2017 @ 10:16am
      Ditto said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:16am | ! Report

      As an aside, John Longmire stated in his press conference that he had been gagged by the AFL in relation to commenting on umpiring. Is the AFL going to come out and call this a lie, because if it is the case it is clearly an attack on freedom of speech. I can understand the AFL sending a memo to coaches asking them to be careful about their comments, but banning them from commenting altogether is outrageous.

    • August 19th 2017 @ 10:50am
      Roger of Sydney said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:50am | ! Report

      The Swans were not on form last night, a lot of fumbles and stumbles, quite out of character and caused turnover goals, Swans have got 10-15% more to give, have the Crows, not sure

      • August 19th 2017 @ 11:07am
        Basil said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:07am | ! Report

        We’ll have to wait and see.

      • August 19th 2017 @ 11:21am
        Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 11:21am | ! Report

        The crows could not hold a mark and fumbled badly early on in the game..they have plenty of improvement. Sydney were bang on early and then pressured out of it after 1/4 time. Not sure that lightening will strike twice if they get beat in most major stats and ship 63 inside 50’s

        • August 19th 2017 @ 4:29pm
          Mark said | August 19th 2017 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

          Lightning striking twice would be Crows getting that many inside 50’s and scoring shots against Sydney if Adelaide play them again.

          • August 19th 2017 @ 5:57pm
            Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 5:57pm | ! Report

            Or lightening striking twice would be that the team that has scored nearly 300 points more than the next highest team in the league this season will be as profligate in front of goal the next time they play each other. Gonna take a big big performance from the swans next time if the crows again win contested ball and the avalanche of inside 50’s. Just admit the swans used their get out of jail card last night and were lucky their opponent had a rare off night infront of goal

            • August 19th 2017 @ 7:17pm
              Mark said | August 19th 2017 @ 7:17pm | ! Report

              Again, if. Your midfield is much improved this year but head to head, ours bats slightly deeper. And it will need to as there’s no doubt your forward line and defence are superior.

              • August 19th 2017 @ 10:03pm
                Sammy said | August 19th 2017 @ 10:03pm | ! Report

                Fair cop..both teams will be there at the pointy end. Port now loom as major stumbling block to top 4 for the swans as they have slightly better % and play gold coast in adelaide next week so having upset the doggies today they would be slight favorites if richmond slip up in their last 2 games

      • August 19th 2017 @ 3:36pm
        Rex said | August 19th 2017 @ 3:36pm | ! Report

        Crows have 35-45% more roger ….. could you have any thicker blinkers on????

      • August 20th 2017 @ 11:44am
        Craig Delaney said | August 20th 2017 @ 11:44am | ! Report

        The Crows likewise n the 1st qu, but give them a bit of credit for the Swans not handling it as well as you’d expected and like.

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