Boks to beat the ‘Blues’ by nine

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    I was horrified to read that the Test match in Perth on Saturday could be deprived of the classic sea of Gold, and replaced by, well, just a sea.

    The news that the home fans will don the blue of the Force, rather than the famous Aussie gold, in solidarity with each other against their removal from Super Rugby, will be music to the ears of the travelling South Africans.

    For those not in the know, the Western Force have been axed from the Super Rugby competition. Their death knell was confirmed when it was revealed this week that their appeal against the ban had failed.

    While the sea of blue may fire up the Boks, it’s not that they need any extra motivation in Perth.

    The hosts have never beaten the Boks by more than seven in Perth, and indeed have only squeaked a win on four of the eight occasions that they have met at the home of the Western Force.

    Frankly, the decision to play the Boks in Western Australia, where an estimated 35,000 South Africans call home, makes about as much sense as SARU granting Cape town a Test match against the All Blacks.

    Playing at sea level, in front of several thousand ‘Cape Crusaders’ will give the All Blacks a massive advantage, not usually enjoyed up on the Highveld.

    At least, unlike previous Tests in Australia, the game is more likely to be sold out.

    The Aussies looked deadly in their second game in New Zealand. They will be looking to build on the impressive display, but the Springboks have recovered from annus horribilis, and now look to have solid cover in all 15 positions.

    So how will things look in this much anticipated encounter? It’s going to be ‘Titanic’ up front, and ‘Dances With Wolves’ in the backs.

    We need a Bok win will keep the championship alive, and that it exactly what will happen.

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    • September 8th 2017 @ 2:13am
      MH01 said | September 8th 2017 @ 2:13am | ! Report

      With so many tahs in the Wallabies, they will think they are playing in Sydney…….

      • September 8th 2017 @ 3:33pm
        ThugbyFan said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

        MH370, very droll! LoL

        And do you remember the last time the Waratahs played in Perth? In a diabolical display that got 8 of them into the WB 23 for this match, it was Force 40 – Tahs 11 and a 5 tries to 1 hiding.

        Lets hope the Tahs contingent play a mite better this time around. 🙁

    • Roar Guru

      September 8th 2017 @ 2:21am
      Corne Van Vuuren said | September 8th 2017 @ 2:21am | ! Report

      Yeah, basing a prediction on nothing more than the crowd’s attitude doesn’t carry much weight for me.

      The Springboks have not been under pressure this year, the Wallabies will be certain to put as much into their attack as possible, the are likely to go for an aerial attack deep as their skill under the high ball trumps anything we can throw at them.

      Defence wise the Springboks weaknesses can be exploited and Jesse Kriel isn’t the best decision maker or organiser of defence.

      There are definite weaknesses in the Springbok make up to exploit

      As far as the set piece , Cheika will most certainly have prepped his front row in the art of negating any advantage the Boks might have had.

      Expect the scrums to be one holy mess.

      • September 8th 2017 @ 3:26am
        LaurensK said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:26am | ! Report

        Biltong thanks for your very educated opinion.

        We have watered down rugby programs in South Africa now with guests kicking a ball into a wall and catching it to try and fill our shows; no more honest and thought provoking opinions, discussions or debates. Imho

        I have a gut feeling the aussies are going to play smart rugby Saturday and hope we will respond well, but I’m not sure

        • Roar Guru

          September 8th 2017 @ 3:59am
          Corne Van Vuuren said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:59am | ! Report

          Yeah Laurens, sadly I take much of what is being said in Supersport programs with a pinch of salt, their decision to curb free speech for their commentators and guests have removed all credibility from their shows.

          I just look at Kobus Wiese with his patrinising laugh at those who phone in and say something close to a real truth as just another ex player who has sold out.

          Critique is not allowed unless the player comes from an “advantaged” past.

          • September 8th 2017 @ 3:01pm
            LaurensK said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:01pm | ! Report

            Best of all is the transformation players all come from expensive private schools. They are definitely not disadvantaged.

            Anyway, let’s hope for the best, I’m worried about our back 3. Our wings can’t tackle and Coetzee had a bad couple of games. Also hope goal kicking is better in case it’s a close game.

      • Roar Rookie

        September 8th 2017 @ 11:26am
        Die hard said | September 8th 2017 @ 11:26am | ! Report

        Yep. I expect the scrums to be one unholy mess. It is the Aussie way. Disruption extreme.

        Even back pedaling last week they stayed up and square. Until TPN and Kepu came on and started shenanigans. Only half of them completed after that.


      • Roar Rookie

        September 8th 2017 @ 4:14pm
        lloyd marshall said | September 8th 2017 @ 4:14pm | ! Report

        Did you even read the article?
        ‘nothing more than the crowd’s attitude doesn’t carry much weight for me.’
        That was not the basis for the prediction at all.

      • Roar Rookie

        September 8th 2017 @ 5:09pm
        lloyd marshall said | September 8th 2017 @ 5:09pm | ! Report

        Did you even read the article?
        ‘nothing more than the crowd’s attitude doesn’t carry much weight for me.’
        That was not the basis for the prediction at all.

    • Roar Guru

      September 8th 2017 @ 2:37am
      Harry Jones said | September 8th 2017 @ 2:37am | ! Report

      This is a distinct home-field advantage rivalry; with Perth being the friendliest place for SA historically and logically (travel, fan base). Still, the Boklings must be the massive underdogs because conventional wisdom says:

      – WBs almost beat ABs
      – SBs beat bad teams
      – WBs are better than SBs

      • Roar Guru

        September 8th 2017 @ 3:13am
        Corne Van Vuuren said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:13am | ! Report

        I think it is more a case of Springboks gradually getting worse since 2014, then hitting rock bottom last year.

        Beating the French and Argentina who to be fair has been rather average does not provide substantial evidence that the Springboks have turned enough of a corner.

        We still have the same issues 1) Coetzee 2) young inexperienced squad 3) selection issues as you well know 4) which leads to questionable combinations.

        • Roar Guru

          September 8th 2017 @ 6:07am
          Harry Jones said | September 8th 2017 @ 6:07am | ! Report

          SA by 4! Upset!!!!

          • September 8th 2017 @ 10:12am
            Rugby Tragic said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:12am | ! Report

            Upset?…. Nah Harry… it’ll be an upset if the Boks get beaten … I say that not intending to be disrespectful to the Wallabies, but the Aussie side has not shown any consistency at all ..

            • September 8th 2017 @ 10:35am
              taylorman said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:35am | ! Report

              Gee dunno Rugby, its that unpredictability Oz always bring to the game, in spades last week, that could see them home here. The tougher opposition and home match I think will tip it.

              Ive said that we wont really be able to size the Boks until they play Oz or NZ as we havent had much to do with France or Argie lately, and those sides are just as unpredictable anyway.

              Boks arent leaking many tries but if Oz can get five on NZ who knows…

              • September 8th 2017 @ 11:27am
                Campbell Watts said | September 8th 2017 @ 11:27am | ! Report

                Yeah but when was the last time the wallabies played 2 good games back-to-back TM?
                Particularly against good opposition!

                I’m predicting an aussie slide back towards the poor handling, headless-chicken rugby we have seen to much of lately. I don’t see them putting together an 80min performance this week – maybe some 20min bursts…

                Bok pack to monster the wallabies at set piece and breakdown is a certainty surely.

              • September 8th 2017 @ 1:00pm
                Rugby Tragic said | September 8th 2017 @ 1:00pm | ! Report

                TM, I think the Aussies have a good tight 5 but the back row will not have the Boks shaking in their boots. Also with DHP out now, (I think he’ll be missed) Hodges is not his equal and takes a while to wind up and his defence less reliable i feel.

              • Roar Guru

                September 8th 2017 @ 3:27pm
                Harry Jones said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:27pm | ! Report

                Some WEIRD tries amongst those five.

                Might never see a try from THAT decimated a scrum again

          • Roar Guru

            September 8th 2017 @ 10:15am
            Machooka said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:15am | ! Report

            I’m upset… about your upset!!!! 😉

        • Roar Guru

          September 8th 2017 @ 10:32am
          PeterK said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:32am | ! Report

          imo the boks defence has really improved and the erratic / high risk attack of the wallabies will be found wanting.

          wallabies defence still misses far too many tackles.
          still have exiting from 22 issues
          still lack a decent kicking game

          all points to a Boks victory

          • September 8th 2017 @ 10:37am
            taylorman said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:37am | ! Report

            …which is often exactly when Oz turn up and win… 🙂

            • Roar Guru

              September 8th 2017 @ 11:17am
              Machooka said | September 8th 2017 @ 11:17am | ! Report

              Bring on the chaos… eh TM 🙂

            • Roar Rookie

              September 8th 2017 @ 11:28am
              Die hard said | September 8th 2017 @ 11:28am | ! Report


              Never trust an Aussie with your girlfriend.

              Actually never trust an Aussie…..

              • September 8th 2017 @ 12:27pm
                AC said | September 8th 2017 @ 12:27pm | ! Report

                Old wounds die hard, Die Hard . .

              • Roar Rookie

                September 8th 2017 @ 2:34pm
                Die hard said | September 8th 2017 @ 2:34pm | ! Report

                If you can’t beat ’em join ’em AC

              • Roar Guru

                September 8th 2017 @ 12:33pm
                Machooka said | September 8th 2017 @ 12:33pm | ! Report

                … never die! 😉

              • September 8th 2017 @ 3:45pm
                ThugbyFan said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:45pm | ! Report

                Die Hard; What about with your sheep? 🙂

              • Roar Rookie

                September 8th 2017 @ 4:47pm
                Die hard said | September 8th 2017 @ 4:47pm | ! Report

                I am an Aussie mate.

              • September 8th 2017 @ 4:34pm
                USrugger said | September 8th 2017 @ 4:34pm | ! Report

                Smooth beasts, they are…

      • September 8th 2017 @ 5:57am
        connor33 said | September 8th 2017 @ 5:57am | ! Report

        Yea, Harry, I watched the Argentina v SA game–the second one. Argentina pushed SA most of the way with yellows and red cards against them (rightly so, though).

        SA do seem to have improved, though. The issue will be: which AU team plans to turn up. I think it’ll be a high scoring game regardless given the dry pitch and relatively warm conditions.

        • September 8th 2017 @ 10:38am
          taylorman said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:38am | ! Report

          yep me too…20’s and 30’s from both sides…

    • September 8th 2017 @ 3:49am
      Chooks said | September 8th 2017 @ 3:49am | ! Report

      Judging by the article, they want to take away our only Test match of the year as well.
      Piss off you Eastern-centric scum.

      • September 8th 2017 @ 10:38am
        markie362 said | September 8th 2017 @ 10:38am | ! Report

        They can take our test match away im done with the earu.

      • September 8th 2017 @ 11:29am
        Sage said | September 8th 2017 @ 11:29am | ! Report

        What part of the article suggests that Chooks?
        And why on earth would they do that when it has been historically well supported by the expats and locals alike.
        Even your apparent preference to make a pointless statement in blue at the expense of the not at fault Wallabies and referring to “eastern-centric scum” won’t affect future tests in WA.
        It will be an interesting evening on a few fronts, not just the rugby.
        Keen to see if the Boks are on the rise as it appears and also if the WB’s are starting to gel or just another false dawn.
        Really looking forward to it. Good luck to the saffa roar boys. Wallabies by 3

        • September 9th 2017 @ 12:28am
          Chooks said | September 9th 2017 @ 12:28am | ! Report

          By suggesting that playing in Perth is a disadvantage to the Wallabies. That the large expat South African community essentially makes the Perth Test a home game for the Bokke.
          I’m sure it won’t be long before the Spirit is booted from the NRC as well.
          Appears to me that anything to do with Rugby in WA will be tossed into the “too hard” bin.

    • September 8th 2017 @ 4:47am
      Bob Wire said | September 8th 2017 @ 4:47am | ! Report

      The new coaches have made the Boks MUCH more competitive than last year, it’s good for rugby to see this transformation. The Wallabies have not had a good year aside from two second half efforts where the injection of bench players have worked well and produced good rugby. I do think off field drama’s could have some influence on the home team, I can’t figure out how Wallaby supporters can turn their back on their team for any reason. The bench players of the home team, on paper we do not have the same potential impact off the pine as the South Africans, however, I do like our run on tight five, and the backline has potential to light it up. Let’s not be in awe of the Boks, they have gone well against opponents who did not stretch them, did not put pressure on the culture the Boks have supposedly acquired this year. I look forward to some running rugby ( in spite of some rain)
      Wallabies by 7.

      • September 8th 2017 @ 5:58am
        connor33 said | September 8th 2017 @ 5:58am | ! Report

        I thought the weather was going to be decent?

        • September 8th 2017 @ 6:57am
          Bob Wire said | September 8th 2017 @ 6:57am | ! Report

          Connor, you are correct, good weather, more tries.

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            September 8th 2017 @ 12:15pm
            piru said | September 8th 2017 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

            it’s been threatening rain all week – I guess we’ll see

    • September 8th 2017 @ 7:07am
      Riccardo said | September 8th 2017 @ 7:07am | ! Report

      The venue might negate home advantage somewhat, especially with the divisions within Australian rugby.

      But, equally the Springboks haven’t had the torch applied against them yet, although their wins against France and Los Pumas have been emphatic.

      The Boks seem to have a bit of an advantage once the pine empties and the Wallabies may need to be nursing a lead by then.

      Set-piece, especially early on, will be interesting with Australia putting out their best tight-five so far. But that back row could still be exposed both at scrum time and at the break-down. Hanigan needs a big game.

      If the Wallabies can employ as good a kicking game as they did in Dunedin that may negate the scrum issues to an extent but they will need to run hard in support and make more first-up tackles.

      I think this will be close either way.

      Great to see Pollard back.

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