It’s a draw! Wallabies and Boks tie on 23-all

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    The Wallabies and Springboks have played out just their second draw in history with the sides holding on for a breathtaking 23-all tie in Perth.

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    It was a game of errors, mistakes and scrappy rugby for the most part but the contest came alive in the second half thanks to a see-saw of momentum and field position late in the game.

    A charged down drop goal attempt from Elton Jantjies after the fulltime siren was the final chance gone begging for the Springboks who remain undefeated in 2017.

    The Wallabies, on the other hand, remain winless in the Rugby Championship, giving up a 10-point lead in the second stanza to share the points.

    The first half was certainly a game of rugby you wouldn’t be showing someone new to the sport as the Wallabies struggled to figure out the lineout, being beaten at scrum time as well for the most part.

    After sharing early penalty goals and a 3-3 scoreline, Jesse Kriel scored the first try of the game, bagging a breakaway meat pie off a turnover in the ruck, something the Boks dominated with most of the night.

    It was short-lived glory though with the Wallabies hitting back off the next kickoff thanks to a bit of Kurtley Beale magic through a sea of defenders to bring the scores back to level.

    Australia were able to take a 13-10 lead into the halftime break thanks to a second penalty goal to Bernard Foley.

    Both sides came out of the sheds with a higher-intensity game with both sides of the park looking to break away with the contest.

    Tatafu Polota-Nau was the beneficiary early in the second 40 of a beautiful rolling maul that went completely against the run of play in the scrum and maul for the rest of the night.

    The Boks, trailing by 10, pounced on another penalty goal opportunity before running rampant with the rolling maul just minutes later to score a try of their own and take the lead with time running out.

    Foley’s fifth and final successful shot on goal evened things up at 23 a piece with 10 minutes to go.

    Frantic and hugely entertaining final stages of the game couldn’t find a winning play from either side as penalties continued to haunt both sides at competing ends of the park.

    South Africa give up their lead at the top of the Championship standings after the All Blacks got up over the Pumas.

    For Australia, they just move ahead of the Argentines with this draw and a bonus point to their name.

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    • September 9th 2017 @ 10:06pm
      Tissot Time said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:06pm | ! Report

      Beale mouthing off at an injured player. Really classy!?

      • September 9th 2017 @ 10:11pm
        elvis said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:11pm | ! Report

        It looked like he was asking if he was ok, if it’s the one I am thinking of. The bloke who stayed down until it wasn’t going to reviewed for a penalty and then he made a miraculous recovery?

        • September 9th 2017 @ 10:18pm
          Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:18pm | ! Report

          It looked to me like he was asking if he was okay too. He’s too nice a bloke to rubbish someone when he’s down.

          • September 9th 2017 @ 10:20pm
            Spook said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:20pm | ! Report

            It looked like, couldn’t be a nicer bloke……….dmaff

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              September 10th 2017 @ 8:25am
              Paulo said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:25am | ! Report

              Too nice a bloke for sure, heaps of respect for women too from what I hear.

              That aside though, he said alot as he walked past, that looked like mouthing off, not ‘hey mate, are you ok?’ Although this is all conjecture so what ever.

      • September 9th 2017 @ 10:17pm
        Cynical Play said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:17pm | ! Report

        Toughen up puff

      • September 9th 2017 @ 11:19pm
        Rebellion said | September 9th 2017 @ 11:19pm | ! Report

        Hannigan was immense at being poor. He’d be better suited cleaning windows on Catherdals – typical Chieka selection along with the ‘sorry mate for flinging the ball above you head’ Phipps
        Chieka has to go and he has to go NOW !

        • Roar Guru

          September 10th 2017 @ 1:21am
          Harry Jones said | September 10th 2017 @ 1:21am | ! Report

          Great post!!!

          • September 10th 2017 @ 7:11am
            Drongo said | September 10th 2017 @ 7:11am | ! Report

            Harry, you talked the Boks up pre-match. What happened?

            • Roar Guru

              September 10th 2017 @ 6:06pm
              Harry Jones said | September 10th 2017 @ 6:06pm | ! Report

              We traveled around the world, put 300 caps on the field against the home team’s 700, and didn’t lose?

        • September 10th 2017 @ 6:04am
          mzilikazi said | September 10th 2017 @ 6:04am | ! Report

          And who will you replace him with. I will be interested to hear your suggestions ?? And I say this not in an aggressive way, but to get a discussion rolling. Because I would not be able to name anyone easily available.

          • September 10th 2017 @ 6:53am
            Johnny G said | September 10th 2017 @ 6:53am | ! Report

            Interesting that people who advocate for changing the coach never come up with worthy suggestions for a replacement. I’ve not heard one worthy contender.

            • Roar Guru

              September 10th 2017 @ 8:36am
              PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:36am | ! Report

              Jake White



              Any nz super rugby head coach

              • September 11th 2017 @ 12:26am
                double agent said | September 11th 2017 @ 12:26am | ! Report

                Blokes that already have contracts.

            • September 10th 2017 @ 9:18am
              Ulrich said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:18am | ! Report

              How about Eddie Jones?

          • September 10th 2017 @ 8:24am
            Charlie Turner said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:24am | ! Report

            MZ, the ARU should hold a raffle for the job every month and sell the tickets for $100 each. Any random over the age of 16 could match Cheikas record. At least it’d be fun to follow and would help fix the financial mess.

            A more boring solution would be Link and Wessels as assistant with Laurie Fisher helping Ledesma. There might be enough water under the bridge for Link to come back.

            • September 10th 2017 @ 12:20pm
              ThugbyFan said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

              With K.Beale and M.Hooper in the team? I doubt that Link would wish all that grief on himself.

              On the other hand, if Link is still helping with the Christchurch rebuilding program and has read Rebellion’s post above aka “He’d be better suited cleaning windows on Catherdals. …” then Link has a ready-made cleaner who plays part-time No6 in rugby on the weekends. 🙂

              • Roar Guru

                September 10th 2017 @ 12:29pm
                PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:29pm | ! Report

                link is in canberra project managing a recycling of waste disposal, even more apt a place for Mumm 2.0

          • Roar Guru

            September 10th 2017 @ 8:34am
            PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:34am | ! Report

            Timani, Higginbotham, Ross Haylett-Petty, Matt Phillips all come to mind

            • September 10th 2017 @ 9:16am
              Dave_S said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:16am | ! Report

              Certainly none of them would be any worse, and I’ve seen all play better.

              What gets me with Hannigan is that in all these tests I’ve yet to see even a flash of whatever it is Cheika sees.

              • Roar Guru

                September 10th 2017 @ 10:14am
                PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:14am | ! Report

                in a struggling lineout he did take 3 lineouts
                has a high defensive work rate

                good club player

              • September 10th 2017 @ 12:30pm
                Dave_S said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:30pm | ! Report

                And high defensive work rate is hardly a credit, it’s part 1 of a 6s job description. Like a lock who hits a lot of rucks.

              • Roar Guru

                September 10th 2017 @ 12:40pm
                jeznez said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

                Ineffective defense though – thought the worst one was where Genia went low and had the Bok players legs wrapped, Hanigan came in high and got bumped right off.

                Cheika is doing the young bloke a disservice by picking him – let him go back to the NRC and develop as a player. He is going to need a proper off-season to do the weights to start fixing his power deficiency ahead of next Super season.

                If Cheika takes him north in November (which seems completely likely) then he is hampering the guys development

          • September 10th 2017 @ 10:14am
            Charlie Turner said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:14am | ! Report

            Mz assuming you mean the coach? The ARU could hold a raffle every month and sell the tickets for $100 each. The winner coaches the side and gets to pick three of his mates as assistants. The ARU could hold a second raffle to determine selectors if the coach raffle failed to stave of the impending bankruptcy.

            Roy and HG would do well, Roy got the Lithgow Shamrocks up again the year.

            A less interesting but more effective solution would be go to Link, cap in hand and convince him to come back. Wessels and Laurie Fisher as his assistants.

            • Roar Guru

              September 10th 2017 @ 12:45pm
              jeznez said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:45pm | ! Report

              Surely that was Grassy Grannal with the fence paling coaching the Shamrocks?

          • September 10th 2017 @ 10:21am
            Charlie Turner said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:21am | ! Report

            Mods is Link a trigger word?

        • September 11th 2017 @ 12:24am
          double agent said | September 11th 2017 @ 12:24am | ! Report


      • September 10th 2017 @ 1:20pm
        Mike Julz said | September 10th 2017 @ 1:20pm | ! Report

        He did look like he was mouthing him off. Beale likes to talk a bit of trash I think

    • September 9th 2017 @ 10:07pm
      Dainis said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:07pm | ! Report

      I’m so disappointed in the Boks. The draw was not what I was expecting. Should have won by a quite a margin. Thanks for ruining my day.

      • Roar Guru

        September 10th 2017 @ 1:22am
        Harry Jones said | September 10th 2017 @ 1:22am | ! Report

        We don’t win very often in OZ. I’ll take the non-loss. But Elton’s slow droppie was really annoying…

        • September 10th 2017 @ 5:20am
          Ken Catchpole's Other Leg said | September 10th 2017 @ 5:20am | ! Report

          He may have been slow Harry, but it was slow with beautiful hair.

          • September 10th 2017 @ 8:21am
            Selector said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:21am | ! Report

            So was Hooper’s charge down. Golden locks flowing in the wind…

          • Roar Rookie

            September 10th 2017 @ 8:27am
            Paulo said | September 10th 2017 @ 8:27am | ! Report

            Depends what side you were looking at him from.

    • September 9th 2017 @ 10:08pm
      SteveDarke said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:08pm | ! Report

      A fair result for two poor teams. NZ will murder the Boks next week.

      • September 10th 2017 @ 4:19pm
        Jock Cornet said | September 10th 2017 @ 4:19pm | ! Report

        I thought the boks would be better. They will get murdered if the kiwis turn up. Do the wallabies use a scrum machine and WTf is Hannigwn doing.

        • September 11th 2017 @ 12:29am
          double agent said | September 11th 2017 @ 12:29am | ! Report

          We’ve been hearing a lot on here about how much better the Boks are this year and how they’d smash us but they didn’t look much better than they did last year.

          • Roar Guru

            September 11th 2017 @ 2:01am
            Harry Jones said | September 11th 2017 @ 2:01am | ! Report

            Both teams had false dawns, but OZ’s was falser?

    • September 9th 2017 @ 10:10pm
      Adsa said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:10pm | ! Report

      Imagine the pride Clown had with a tah backrow forthe last 20. Giving players an expexperience that he never could.

      • September 9th 2017 @ 10:28pm
        PiratesRugby said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:28pm | ! Report

        Robertson, hanigan, Simmons, Dempsey, Hooper, Phipps, Foley, Folau …. the names which set super rugby on fire this year.
        A Waratah cannot get dropped from this team. Disgraceful.

      • September 10th 2017 @ 9:13am
        Harry said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:13am | ! Report

        Savage, but fair … when I see Dempsey and Robertson coming on, and Hanigan starting. Those 3 are NRC standard and it genuinely cheapens the Wallaby jersey.
        Players better than those 3 … Higginbotham, Timani, Fardy, Cowan, even Ben Alexander over Robinson.

        • Roar Guru

          September 10th 2017 @ 10:18am
          PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:18am | ! Report

          Dempsey did do better than McMahon who he replaced and is better than Mumm 2.0.

          Fardy is no longer available

          I would have Timani, Hooper and Higgs as my back 3 though,

          • Roar Guru

            September 10th 2017 @ 12:47pm
            jeznez said | September 10th 2017 @ 12:47pm | ! Report

            Yep, would have the same back three.

            McMahon was one of the few blokes hitting rucks so wasn’t terrible but would much rather have him off the bench – although Hardwick could do a similar job and would ideally see another 6/8 player rather than a 7 hybrid there.

          • Roar Guru

            September 11th 2017 @ 2:02am
            Harry Jones said | September 11th 2017 @ 2:02am | ! Report


            I like the nickname “Mumm 2.0.”

            Did you invent it?

            • Roar Guru

              September 11th 2017 @ 10:55am
              PeterK said | September 11th 2017 @ 10:55am | ! Report

              yes quite a while ago, before the june tests, as soon as i saw he made the wallaby squads

              mind you it looks like a retrograde upgrade , one where the upgrade is worse a lot like windows 8

      • September 11th 2017 @ 12:31am
        double agent said | September 11th 2017 @ 12:31am | ! Report

        I’m sure he stakes his reputation as an international coach by picking as many Waratahs as he can.

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      September 9th 2017 @ 10:11pm
      Toulouse-Lautrec said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:11pm | ! Report

      Nothing to get exicited about. Waratahs one step forward, two steps back.

      Same issues. Hannigan is just a ridiculous selection. Foley is not good enough at ten. Set piece is attrocious. Backrow too soft. Tactical kicking abysmal.

      Worst Wallaby team I’ve watched in 30 years.

      Need a new coach with a new plan. The players are there. The enterprise to play the best players in the best positions are not.

      Positives – geee, err, Beale going well. Needs to be at 10. McMahon a beast, but being made too work too hard due to our non ball carrying backrow. (hooper carries, but gets thrown backwards 20m in contact)

      • September 9th 2017 @ 10:25pm
        PiratesRugby said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:25pm | ! Report

        Yes, Australia can still produce good players. Unfortunately, the best players don’t all make it into the national side.
        So far this year Cheika has notched up unimpressive wins over Fiji and Italy. Training however has been outstanding.

      • September 9th 2017 @ 10:31pm
        Lano said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:31pm | ! Report

        Agree with all that.

        • September 9th 2017 @ 10:57pm
          Shut The Front Door! said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:57pm | ! Report


          • September 10th 2017 @ 9:48am
            Jacko said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:48am | ! Report

            Why not?

          • September 10th 2017 @ 9:04pm
            Glenn said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

            Beause it is a fair and accurate assessment, that’s why.

        • September 9th 2017 @ 11:17pm
          cinque said | September 9th 2017 @ 11:17pm | ! Report

          Maybe. I thought McMahon was poor and Hanigan okay. The crowd goes “Ooh!” when Coleman puts on a big hit or McMahon half busts a tackle but mostly that’s just for show. You shake your heads when Hanigan (or Hooper) gets bounced off but Oz scramble well in defence, particularly those two. His positional play is good, tackle count is good (though never dominant) He handles well and was our best line-out jumper.

          Admittedly, his clean-outs and ruck defence were poor but no worse than anyone else. Look, he will never be Retallick The whole pack was poor at the breakdown.

          If you take, say Timani or Higginbotham instead, there would gains in impact but the losses might be greater, though not as visible.

          • September 10th 2017 @ 9:15am
            Harry said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:15am | ! Report

            Hanigan OK … seriously? I saw him miss two tackles and join cleanouts/rucks as the second or third player. Then he gave away the critical penalty that gave the Boks the chance to win the game. I seriously cannot recall anything else he did.

            • September 10th 2017 @ 9:31am
              cinque said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:31am | ! Report

              Yes, that penalty was bad.
              Didn’t say he was good, just okay.
              Missed a few tackles that didn’t matter, made a few that did.
              I liked his bobble and regather in the TPN try and his part in the drive.
              He can catch and pass, doesn’t get stripped in contact. Those skills are not sexy but you need some who plug away. Like Beale needs Kurindrani.

              • Roar Guru

                September 10th 2017 @ 10:24am
                PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:24am | ! Report

                he wasn’t ok.

                missed 4 tackles only made 6.

                in attack carried 4 times for zero metres.

                So workrate not that high.

                Constantly falls off on cleanouts, even worse than Mumm was.
                It looks like Mumm 2.0 is a retrograde update not an upgrade, a lot like windows 8 was.

                No comparison to what TK offers. 9 runs 51 metres except tk also missed too many tackles.

              • September 10th 2017 @ 10:39am
                QED said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:39am | ! Report


                >>……that penalty was bad<>…he was just okay.<>Missed a few tackles that didn’t matter, made a few that did.<>…….his ‘part’ in the drive.
                >>He can catch and pass, doesn’t get stripped in contact. Those skills are not sexy but you need some who plug away<<

                A fair assessment IF HE WAS PLAYING 2nd grade club rugby. (sigh)

          • September 10th 2017 @ 9:26am
            Dave_S said | September 10th 2017 @ 9:26am | ! Report

            Cinque that’s the problem with Hannigan – never dominant in any of the key flanker tasks. He’s just a 3rd lineout option atm.

            • Roar Guru

              September 10th 2017 @ 10:20am
              PeterK said | September 10th 2017 @ 10:20am | ! Report

              and in this game missed 4 tackles out of 10, 60% tackle success and where none that he made were physical in the slightest.

      • September 9th 2017 @ 11:05pm
        Brian said | September 9th 2017 @ 11:05pm | ! Report

        If that’s legitimately all you took from that game, I feel sorry for you.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 12:32am
        double agent said | September 11th 2017 @ 12:32am | ! Report

        Agree with most of that TLT.

    • September 9th 2017 @ 10:13pm
      Bib said | September 9th 2017 @ 10:13pm | ! Report

      Beat of a wallaby back row tonight

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