Michael Cheika makes two changes to Wallabies squad for Argentina clash

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    Wallabies coach Michael Cheika has dumped Kane Douglas from his squad for Saturday’s Test against Argentina in Canberra to make way for rookie lock Lukhan Tui.

    Douglas started in the 2015 World Cup final for Australia but has battled to replicate that form since and has been sent back to the National Rugby Championship in search of game time.

    The 28-year-old was lured back to Australian rugby at great expense two years ago but has been overtaken at the Queensland Reds and now in the Test pecking order by young guns Tui and Izack Rodda.

    Tui, 20, has recently recovered from knee surgery and was called up for the first time by Cheika in June but is yet to make his Wallabies debut.

    Rodda, 21, made his first appearance for Australia in last month’s Bledisloe Cup defeat in Dunedin.

    With Adam Coleman and Rory Arnold now the clear first-choice lock combination for the Wallabies – and with Cheika keeping a close eye on Tui and Rodda – it seems a long road back for Douglas, who has not made a single Test appearance this year.

    Meanwhile, former skipper Stephen Moore is back in the squad after sitting out Saturday’s 23-23 draw with South Africa for the birth of his third child, with hooker Tolu Latu dropping out.

    The only other change is the expected exclusion of winger Dane Haylett-Petty who is ruled out for the rest of the year after undergoing biceps surgery.

    Saturday’s clash at GIO Stadium is Australia’s first in Canberra since 2010, while Argentina haven’t played there for 17 years.

    FORWARDS: Allan Alaalatoa, Rory Arnold, Adam Coleman, Jack Dempsey, Tetera Faulkner, Ned Hanigan, Michael Hooper (capt), Sekope Kepu, Adam Korczyk, Sean McMahon, Stephen Moore, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Tom Robertson, Izack Rodda, Rob Simmons, Scott Sio, Lopeti Timani, Lukhan Tui, Jordan Uelese.

    BACKS: Kurtley Beale, Israel Folau, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Reece Hodge, Samu Kerevi, Marika Koroibete, Tevita Kuridrani, Billy Meakes, Izaia Perese, Nick Phipps, Joe Powell, Curtis Rona, Henry Speight.

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    • Roar Rookie

      September 11th 2017 @ 2:47pm
      K.F.T.D. said | September 11th 2017 @ 2:47pm | ! Report

      Put Tui straight to six! He had a great game against the Fijians always bending their line.

      • Roar Guru

        September 11th 2017 @ 2:53pm
        Hoy said | September 11th 2017 @ 2:53pm | ! Report

        Yeah, he certainly wasn’t shy.

        I really can’t understand Cheika’s thinking in his selections…

        He has blooded Rodda, who showed a bit of go, then… nothing. Haven’t heard he will be picked or not… Brings in Tui over the top of Douglas, who couldn’t get a game for the Reds over Rodda anyway?

        Drops Arnold for Simmons for Bled 2, then… picks him again, after his dropping was shown to be a silly plan…

        Remember last year when Simmons was dropped, picked, dropped, picked in successive tests? What was the aim of that?

        Will we never see Uelese again this year? Wouldn’t surprise me.

        Meanwhile, the bloke who was invisible on Saturday night, Hanigan, is given a leave pass to be invisible…

        I can’t work out what his aim is. Honestly can’t see what he is trying to do.

        • September 11th 2017 @ 3:40pm
          Charlie Turner said | September 11th 2017 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

          It’s like he’s punishing those who question his selections by remaining staunchly obtuse. It’s a brutally frustrating period to be a Wallaby supporter. Not only did we share the score line with the Boks on Saturday we also have to endure a quota system which favours the Tahs and any limp biscuit Cheika feels “did good” by him in the past.

        • September 11th 2017 @ 4:00pm
          Sage said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:00pm | ! Report

          I’ve stopped trying to. It helps not to analyse it too much. I’ve found I’m rolling on the floor mumbling to myself far less than was the case prior

          • September 11th 2017 @ 4:48pm
            Dave_S said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:48pm | ! Report

            Sage advice.

        • Roar Guru

          September 11th 2017 @ 7:46pm
          jeznez said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:46pm | ! Report

          Hardwick another one. Got two ten minute cameos. Was ok in his first and better in his second and is then dismissed from the squad. Baffling.

          • September 11th 2017 @ 7:53pm
            Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:53pm | ! Report

            Not really.

            McMahon was out.

            Now he’s back.

            • Roar Guru

              September 12th 2017 @ 6:04pm
              jeznez said | September 12th 2017 @ 6:04pm | ! Report

              except that Hardwick was dropped for Dempsey. A player coming back from injury who had no form line

        • September 12th 2017 @ 7:08pm
          Gepetto said | September 12th 2017 @ 7:08pm | ! Report

          Simmons is selected when it is important to win line-outs and deliver clean, fast ball to the half-back and defence needs to be reliable.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 2:55pm
        ajg said | September 11th 2017 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

        Would be lovely to see but there’s no way Cheika isn’t going to stick with hannigan – his ridiculous tahs bias shows no hope of slowing down (and thats from a bitter tahs fan)

        • Roar Guru

          September 11th 2017 @ 7:49pm
          jeznez said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:49pm | ! Report

          He did manage to pick Uelese over Latu last weekend – and I was pleasantly surprised by the debutants performance.

          Think this is more that Cheika once he has made a decision in favour of, or against a player struggles to change his opinion.

          He likes Hanigan and Moore, he doesn’t like Timani or Latu.

          Is why he hasn’t settled on a lock combination even though almost everyone can see that Arnold and Coleman are his best pair.

          • September 12th 2017 @ 8:52am
            Fionn said | September 12th 2017 @ 8:52am | ! Report

            Think you might be onto something here, Jez.

            We saw Link drop his captain (Genia). Somehow, I can’t see Hooper ever being dropped regardless of whether he suffers a big form decline.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 3:48pm
        Fionn said | September 11th 2017 @ 3:48pm | ! Report

        Is Tui fast enough to play 6?

        Very few locks are fast enough to play 6 in the modern game. PSDT is a world class lock (as he proved on Saturday, he was immense!) but was totally shown up at 6.

        Even Itoje wasn’t great at 6, and he is a world class lock too (although I don’t think he is England’s best lock).

        • September 11th 2017 @ 4:39pm
          Bfc said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:39pm | ! Report

          Can’t do worse than the #6 we have now…but Hanigan is almost a ‘lock’ in the #6 jersey so it is likely a moot point. More is the pity…
          As Hoy noted.. the baffling selection merry-go-round continues unchecked (no pun intended…).

          • September 11th 2017 @ 4:45pm
            Dave_S said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:45pm | ! Report

            Did you meen Moore is the pity … !

        • September 11th 2017 @ 4:44pm
          Dave_S said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:44pm | ! Report

          There would be quicker 6s but he might bring a bit of physical presence – I’d settle for that at this stage. A bit of Matt Cockbain 2.0 instead of Mumm 2.0.

        • September 11th 2017 @ 7:31pm
          timber said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:31pm | ! Report

          Kaino isn’t the quickest going around but he’s certainly an effective no.6.
          You don’t need to have a quick no.6 as long as you have some pace elsewhere to help compensate and as long as your no.6 has a big engine.

          • Roar Rookie

            September 11th 2017 @ 7:51pm
            K.F.T.D. said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:51pm | ! Report

            My suggestion of Tui is to overcome the lack of gravity ( weight) in the back row, ie, Hooper.
            Tui is not a number 6 by trade but is a good ball carrier and 6’6″ ,124kg v Hannigan 6’4″ and 110kg.
            He can run and he can offload and has some pace.

            • September 11th 2017 @ 8:28pm
              Dave_S said | September 11th 2017 @ 8:28pm | ! Report

              Yep if he can bend the line and free the arms to offload, plus clear out a few rucks and take a few line outs, then he will be worth it.

          • September 11th 2017 @ 8:13pm
            cuw said | September 11th 2017 @ 8:13pm | ! Report

            Kaino has lost pace now , but when he came over from Japan in 2015 he was quick.

            now i think he is playing more with experience than absolute pace, much like Mccaw did at the end of his career.

            the selection depends on what a coach is looking for . guys like Messam and Vito were i would say quicker than Kaino , but were not knocking down big guys.

            it was the same with Hitman collins – he was not that fast but once he hit someone , the opposition were basically playing with 14 for the next 5 minutes 🙂

      • Roar Guru

        September 11th 2017 @ 8:33pm
        ThugbyFan said | September 11th 2017 @ 8:33pm | ! Report

        KTFD, funny as I suggested in an earlier blog this morning that L.Tui should star at #8. He has mass, hits the rucks hard, tackles and runs well and knows his place in the forwards. It wouldn’t take much to convert him into a solid #8 which would vastly improve the WB pack. Perhaps put S.McMahon at #6 and let Ned Flanigan battle it out with J.Dempsey and I.Rodda as reserve back rower.

        And will coach M.Cheika admit to his cr^p selections or make any unforced changes? Hell will freeze first! Cheika will blab on that L.Tui is only seen as a lock and N.Hanigan is a great sucess and no-one else in the squad could replace him (unsaid “because I selected the squad and made sure of no #6 alternatives bar my Tah boys”).

    • Roar Guru

      September 11th 2017 @ 3:45pm
      PeterK said | September 11th 2017 @ 3:45pm | ! Report

      Douglas being dropped for Tui IS a positive move.

      Latu for Moore is not.

      Just let Moore ride off to retirement. He is not going to get any better, he is slowing down and is not the best in his position.

      • Roar Guru

        September 11th 2017 @ 3:53pm
        Machooka said | September 11th 2017 @ 3:53pm | ! Report

        Agree Peter… what purpose does it serve, except extending Moore’s international career. And if you factor in the amount of head knocks Taf gets, well, we need another young and upcoming hooker around eh.

        • September 11th 2017 @ 3:55pm
          Fionn said | September 11th 2017 @ 3:55pm | ! Report

          And considering Latu outplayed him in 2017 and we saw more from Uelese than, sadly, Moore has shown us for almost two years.

          • Roar Guru

            September 11th 2017 @ 4:05pm
            Machooka said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

            They were pretty good debut minutes from Uelese on the w’end eh buddy!?!

            • September 11th 2017 @ 4:10pm
              Fionn said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:10pm | ! Report

              They sure were. I’m baffled as to how he didn’t get more Super Rugby minutes this year?

              • Roar Guru

                September 11th 2017 @ 4:17pm
                Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:17pm | ! Report

                Injury and World U20s championships.

              • September 11th 2017 @ 4:33pm
                Fionn said | September 11th 2017 @ 4:33pm | ! Report

                TWAS, if the rumours of Wessels and half the Force squad heading to Melbourne are true then if Wessels can find a way to integrate the teams without too much disquiet (I can see it being seen as a Force takeover of the Rebels) then they could be a very good team next year.

              • September 11th 2017 @ 7:58pm
                Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 7:58pm | ! Report

                I don’t think there will be many more Force players than Coleman, Lance, DHP, RHP and Hardwick.

                The likelihood of game time will be a huge factor in their decision and they would consider who was missing due to injury.

                Very little opportunity to start in outside the centres.

                Back 3, halves and pack barring LHP pretty full.

              • September 11th 2017 @ 8:00pm
                Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 8:00pm | ! Report

                I’d love to see Daley come down. Would work well to easy Fereti into the starting jersey.

                Ben’s career is winding down, but is a real professional with great experience.

    • September 11th 2017 @ 9:25pm
      Scar82 said | September 11th 2017 @ 9:25pm | ! Report

      Aussies opening up the nrc to the fijian druas is a eye opener. All along they have been playing soft touch rugby sort of stuff which shows in the super rugby aussie teams when the tough gets going they wilt. This drua team is smashing them up making them think twice of how to carry the ball, how to tackle and how to bloody run. The drua team is ripping it in this comp and these are just ordinary working class blue collard men. Maybe aussie rugby should start sending these private school show pony kids to go play in the local under 20 fiji comp and rough them up for the future and know how hard they do it in the islands. This wallabies team players like hannigan dempsey timani even some of those backs need tobe sent to play in the local fiji comp.insure them well pay them to go and see how they fair in some of these playing fields they play in in fiji lol. I bet some would be asking for an early retirement. Wallabies need to harden up.ack aggression u could see it in the rucksin all there matches. Even in the nrc. Even worse they go in to matches thinking theycant afford to lose instead of we are going to win this. Good example the drua playing with nothing to lose y cos they going there with nothing to play for to begin with but appreciation of being given an opopportunity.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 11:33pm
        Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 11:33pm | ! Report

        I get the impression you’ve decided your view before actually watching.

        Hard to be ripping it up at 1-1.

        They beat a very young Rising team who did surprisingly well in the physicality. The difference was actually a couple of long range tries against the run of play by the Drua.

      • Roar Rookie

        September 12th 2017 @ 4:56am
        K.F.T.D. said | September 12th 2017 @ 4:56am | ! Report

        The Fijians could win this comp, they certainly bashed the Melbourne Rebels sorry ,Rising , and it wasn’t all basketball. There were times where they were content to truck it up the middle for 16 phases or more before cutting loose. Their scrum was strong and their physical presence is felt around the paddock, I feel sorry for any team playing them in Fiji.

    • Roar Guru

      September 11th 2017 @ 10:16pm
      PeterK said | September 11th 2017 @ 10:16pm | ! Report

      great news that Banks has been added to the squad.

      Why hasn’t Naivalu been reinstated?

      Banks would be a good player on the wallabies bench ahead of Rona.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 11:32pm
        Train Without A Station said | September 11th 2017 @ 11:32pm | ! Report

        Naivalu is injured

        • Roar Guru

          September 12th 2017 @ 9:12am
          PeterK said | September 12th 2017 @ 9:12am | ! Report

          he played in the nrc

          • Roar Guru

            September 12th 2017 @ 9:27am
            Train Without A Station said | September 12th 2017 @ 9:27am | ! Report

            Nah you’re mistaken mate. Definitely did not.

            Semisi Tupou started both games and Marika Koribete started the first game and Kitione Ratu the second.

        • September 12th 2017 @ 9:18am
          Fionn said | September 12th 2017 @ 9:18am | ! Report

          If Naivalu’s injured then I probably still wouldn’t throw Banks into starting (although I would be tempted to select him over Speight now that I think about it, especially given it is in Canberra…), but he should definitely get a run off of the bench.

      • September 11th 2017 @ 11:46pm
        Sam said | September 11th 2017 @ 11:46pm | ! Report

        Ankle injury I think.

    • September 11th 2017 @ 11:42pm
      RT said | September 11th 2017 @ 11:42pm | ! Report

      Oh phew, Moore’s back! Now I can rest easy.

    • September 12th 2017 @ 9:29am
      Paul D said | September 12th 2017 @ 9:29am | ! Report

      For who? Not the Rising in the last 2 games.

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