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    The Football Federation Australia (FFA) is a distracted organisation that is unable to make strategic decisions to improve the footprint of football in this country.

    The Board and CEO’s efforts are fully focused on ensuring its preferred model for the FFA Congress – one that does not extinguish its influence.

    To achieve this model, it is fighting on all fronts and against most of the sport’s key stakeholders.

    These issues are hurting the game at a time when a new A-League campaign is about to start and calls to expand the national competition are becoming louder.

    This is troubling for fans of the game.

    It feels like only yesterday when football reached its highest point – the Socceroos finally qualifying for their first World Cup finals since 1974. Australia had finally found the sporting equivalent of the holy grail.

    Domestically, the sport’s governing body has been able to successfully deliver a new national competition. Importantly, it has been able to increase the average crowds at A-League games since 2007 while the AFL, NRL and Super Rugby crowds have declined over the same time period. That has been no small achievement.

    It has also established a successful national women’s league long before the AFL or rugby league.

    Football was seen as being a genuine threat to AFL and rugby league.

    Not anymore.

    There are plenty of strategic problems facing the FFA that need to be resolved quickly.

    Only last week, the Socceroos failed to automatically qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Now the Australian team must overcome a convoluted process to make it to Russia.

    The failure of the Socceroos adds further weight to the broken youth development system in this country at a time when the FFA decided to close the Centre of Excellence at the Australian Institute of Sport to save money.

    A-League clubs want a greater say in how football in this country is run and how funds are distributed from the TV broadcasting rights. As such, they are calling for greater representation on the FFA Congress.

    The FFA has put the expansion of the the A-League in the too hard basket. This is at a time when National Premier League clubs, the second tier competition, want a second division as an avenue to the A-League.

    Fans across Australia are also unhappy as they are missing out on football action. There is no access to live A-League games outside capital cities and the Central Coast of NSW.

    These are the fans that prop up the state associations and the FFA from their playing fees each year.

    If that was not enough, the FFA CEO, David Gallop, is apparently in contention for the CEO role at ARU.

    Surely this would be a backward step in international sport, but it illustrates the growing problems within the FFA and football in this country.

    The FFA has also suffered the humiliation of FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation intervening in the domestic game by sending a joint delegation to Australia to help resolve the long-standing governance crisis.

    The delegation failed to resolve these problems and now the fate of football in this country is potentially in the hand of FIFA’s normalisation committee. FIFA has given the FFA until 30 November to gets its house in order.

    Argentina and Guinea have been two recent member states FIFA has had to intervene in through the implementation of the normalisation committee in their domestic leagues. So Australia is not exactly in quality company.

    The current problems have haunted football in Australia ever since its existence.

    It has seemingly taken less than 15 years for the FFA and the game’s controllers to forget the important recommendations of the thorough review into the governance, management and structure of football in Australia and the governing body, Soccer Australia.

    The Guardian has reported that the the states and territories appear collectively subservient to the FFA Board they are supposed to oversee. From a governance perspective, this is troubling and outlines why the congress needs to be expanded.

    It is the rising problems of self-interest and political infighting that is again affecting the game.

    It is disturbing that we have not seemed to have learned anything from the Crawford Report and the Independent Soccer Review Committee.

    Anyone who has read Ross Solly’s book, Shoot Out: Passion and Politics of Soccer’s Fight for Survival in Australia, will understand political infighting, nepotism and incompetence strangled the growth of football in Australia for many years.

    Reports suggesting the FFA Board can control the governing body that was put in place by the custodians of the game is very troubling. It suggests that the current structure is no longer effective. It is akin to the tail wagging the dog again.

    The FFA is getting bogged down in these governance issues and lobbying for its preferred model while forgetting about the bigger picture.

    David Gallop, head of the FFA. (Photo by Paul Barkley/LookPro)

    Will David Gallop be on his way to the ARU? (Photo by Paul Barkley/LookPro)

    It was therefore surprising that it has been able to implement an improved collective enterprise agreement for female football players this week.

    But other key issues need to be resolved, like the expansion of the A-League, if we want to see football in this country grow.

    The A-League has not expanded outside new Melbourne and Sydney franchises since it commenced in August 2005. Two expansion clubs, North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast United, had their licenses revoked.

    The FFA’s mentality seems to be focused on capital city derbies rather than growing the game across the country.

    Some of the current A-League sides are still suffering financial problems. The FFA was unable to secure enough funds from the last broadcasting rights to appease club owners.

    If that was not enough, A-League clubs have often struggled in recent Asian competitions. Questions will start to arise as to why our teams are not competitive.

    There are also questions about the independence of the FFA board. Media reports talk about the need for members to be sanctioned by Frank Lowy before they are appointed.

    Look no further than Steven Lowy AM, son of Frank, who was the inaugural FFA Chairman. He was elected as a director of the Board of FFA in 2015 and went straight into the role of Chairman.

    No-one can deny Stephen Lowy is a very competent businessman. But to be elected as Chairman of the FFA without any football experience seems unusual.

    It does little to diminish media speculation and innuendo, particularly from the Australian Financial Review, that FFA is the fiefdom of the Lowys.

    The passing of the baton from father to son also raises concerns of nepotism in football again.

    Anyone who was an avid watcher of football in this country over the last thirty years will have vivid memories of the late Les Murray and Johnny Warren spending hours lambasting the administrators of football in this country during different SBS shows.

    While we have not returned to the dark old days of the NSL and Soccer Australia, cracks are appearing in the football and the governing bodies again and this is troubling for football fans.

    I am not a governance expert so I do not know the answer for the best model for the FFA Congress. However, futsal and women’s football need a strong voice to ensure appropriate funding and representation.

    Clubs and the players also need a voice on the Congress. Therefore, a 9-4-1-1 model should only be adopted if the interests of whole football community are properly represented.

    The 9-4-1-1 model will ensure it better addresses the accusations that the FFA is influencing the FFA Congress.

    Football is close to crisis point in Australia again. We have failed to automatically qualify for the 2018 World Cup and there are serious concerns about the depth of the talent pool.

    Yet the attention of stakeholders is directed at one issue – the appropriate governance model to oversee the game.

    It is now time for individuals to put their self-interests to one side and focus on implementing all the key strategic decisions to make football stronger in this country. Not just the interests of a few.

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    • September 15th 2017 @ 6:01am
      stu said | September 15th 2017 @ 6:01am | ! Report

      Not too worried about the politics, it happens worldwide and the game survives.
      I am yet again worried that the league kicks off again in a couple of weeks when I did not become conscious of it until a casual discussion last week.
      There remains NO effective marketing of the game and the off-season is too long with the result that the public need to motivate themselves to regain interest.
      Forget the politics, the above must be addresses.

    • September 15th 2017 @ 7:41am
      Fadida said | September 15th 2017 @ 7:41am | ! Report

      Agree totally

      • September 15th 2017 @ 9:56am
        Fadida said | September 15th 2017 @ 9:56am | ! Report

        I was agreeing with Stu

    • September 15th 2017 @ 8:13am
      chris said | September 15th 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

      “Football was seen as being a genuine threat to AFL and rugby league.

      Not anymore.”

      • September 15th 2017 @ 6:20pm
        Realfootball said | September 15th 2017 @ 6:20pm | ! Report

        With you on the yawn.

    • September 15th 2017 @ 8:24am
      republican said | September 15th 2017 @ 8:24am | ! Report

      ……..Soccer remains the biggest game here when you consider GR participation and despite politics.
      Personally I don’t understand why this code is so popular throughout the world but there is no denying, that it is and this includes Australia.
      I really don’t think domestic Soccer has anything to worry about in this country but of course it can and will, improve its status, moving forward……….

    • September 15th 2017 @ 8:41am
      striker said | September 15th 2017 @ 8:41am | ! Report

      Gallop and co need to go, they game needs new blood and direction and they will never get this with Gallop, he has done nothing since his taken over from Ben Buckley.

      • September 15th 2017 @ 1:28pm
        Deir-ba-zor said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:28pm | ! Report

        Well he has prevented the code from doing a basketball, you gotta give him that.

    • September 15th 2017 @ 8:50am
      Post_hoc said | September 15th 2017 @ 8:50am | ! Report

      One thing that gets me about articles like this (and yes I am going to br critical) are throwing words out there and not having anything to back up the statement.

      I will be the first to admit, that i am not the best writer, but when i intend to write something of substance I try to follow the ‘rules’ of persuasive writing . If you are going to introduce a topic in a paragraph make sure you support that position/conclusion in the same paragraph.

      Donald Trump is a homicidal maniac, boy the weather around these parts are strange, hot one day cold the next. So about those socceroos.

      You can’t just throw a statement like that about Mr Trump and not provide some evidence, no matter how self evident you think it is. Same as
      ” Some of the current A-League sides are still suffering financial problems. The FFA was unable to secure enough funds from the last broadcasting rights to appease club owners.”

      Which clubs? What evidence is there that the club owners are unhappy with the broadcast deal, how much did they think they will get?

      I suspect much of the evidence for pieces like this are historical articles like this, they seem to virtually reference each other in a never ending cycle.

      As for the governance model, why does Futsal need a representation on the board? It is represented already by the State Bodies, NSW Football controls Futsal in NSW (I assume every other body does the same thing)

      A League clubs should be represented because they are a massive income source for the game, If Futsal has a position, why can’t beach football or the homeless games, or street football or the parraroos, special needs etc etc.

      In my opinion the governance issue will resolve, and personally I have not issue with FIFA/AFC being involved, it isn’t embarrassing it is actually being pro-active. We have a stalemate can we get an outside facilitator to help reach a compromise. It is smart thinking.

      • September 15th 2017 @ 9:01am
        chris said | September 15th 2017 @ 9:01am | ! Report

        Well said PH. The author seems to base the (potential) demise of football due to the poor governance etc. He also states that because of this, it cannot be considered a threat to other sports. Its as if other sports, by default of what he is saying, have no governance or political issues to contend with in their own back yard.
        Just another doom and gloom piece by a non football nobody.

        • September 15th 2017 @ 1:08pm
          Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:08pm | ! Report

          It is always easy to run out the line that an author is non football person. Not that I need to argue my football credentials with you, but I will. I participated in the Crawford Review into football 16 years ago including attending a discussion on summary of the report’s draft finding in the ACT chair by David Crawford and Johnny Warren. Been involved in grassroots football for many years, including participating in the development of the best training model for children. My son is a referee and plays NPL football. Been attending grassroots games at NPL for the last four years. I have watched EPL games, Serie A and Serie B, Coppa Italia, friendly games between Italian and Spanish clubs over last 25 years. And Europa Leagues games as well. I have been a member of Central Coast Mariners. I was in Sydney when Aloisi scored his penalty to take Australia to its first World Cup. I think it qualifies me to write about football in this country.

          • September 15th 2017 @ 1:24pm
            Nemesis said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:24pm | ! Report

            @Alistair Nitz

            If you are so heavily involved in football, why have you included so many errors of fact and, as a result, conclusions based on false premises?

            Would you like me to itemise all the factual flaws in your piece?

            • September 15th 2017 @ 1:47pm
              Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:47pm | ! Report

              Yes please. I can’t help if I have had a long interest in the sport.

              It is an opinion piece. They are my views. If I am wrong I am happy to be corrected. That is the objective of Roar Sport.

              • September 15th 2017 @ 2:26pm
                Nemesis said | September 15th 2017 @ 2:26pm | ! Report

                1) “The Football Federation Australia (FFA) is a distracted organisation”

                Only this week FFA announced a huge strategic plan for Women’s Football, which you later admit, so you even contradict your opening statement

                2) “Football was seen as being a genuine threat to AFL and rugby league.
                Not anymore”

                Football has far surpassed AFL & RL in all areas except the professional men’s competitions.

                3) “Only last week, the Socceroos failed to automatically qualify for the 2018 World Cup.”
                WRONG… or an unsophisticated understanding of qualification

                Australia’s Men’s National Team has not failed to Qualify for Russia 2018; it is still involved in the qualification process.

                4) “the broken youth development system in this country”
                OPINION with no facts to validate

                5) “The FFA has put the expansion of the the A-League in the too hard basket”

                The FFA has clearly stated expansion is required but it cannot occur with the current operating model. So, they have hired investment bankers to review the operating model & best options for expansion. The report is due by end of 2017. This is normal business practice for any expansion strategy.

                6) “There is no access to live A-League games outside capital cities and the Central Coast of NSW”
                SO WHAT?

                AFL only played in capital cities & Geelong for 100 years. They’ve now added a franchise on the Gold Coast, but they have no franchise in NZL.

                7) “If that was not enough, the FFA CEO, David Gallop, is apparently in contention for the CEO role at ARU”
                SO WHAT?
                Every employee in Australia is entitled to move jobs. It has zero reflection on the employer

                8) “The A-League has not expanded outside new Melbourne and Sydney franchises since it commenced in August 2005”
                SO WHAT?

                Aleague commenced from nothing 12 years ago. Why would anyone expect significant expansion after just 12 years? With hundredds of millions of dollars pouring into NRL they’ve not had any expansion in the past 12 years. AFL expansion clubs are losing $20m per year & are being propped up by revenue generated by the other clubs

                9) “A-League clubs have often struggled in recent Asian competitions”

                In the 2nd year of ACL involvement an Aleague club qualified for the Finale. WSW won the ACL. So, that’s 2 appearances in the Finale in 11 attempts. Our league is Salary Capped. Most of the clubs are 12 years old.

                10) “there are serious concerns about the depth of the talent pool”

                We’ve got the most participants of any team sport. So, if the depth of our talent pool is shallow, the other sports are bone dry.

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:14pm
                Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:14pm | ! Report

                I can’t respond to your comments Nemesis so I will include my retort here.

                1. That was an opinion and I refer to the women’s announcement in my article. It was not a strategic plan but announcement of collective bargaining agreement. Therefore your are wrong.

                2. Professional football is where national sporting bodies secure their greatest resources to fund the game at the grassroots level. The AFL has $2.5 billion to spend. The FFA has $346 million over six years. AFL and NRL has better average crowds. I do not believe my opinion is wrong.

                3. Australia did not automatically qualify. It now needs to play Syria and then fourth place Team from CONCACAF. I may not have step eloquently but I did not say anything factually incorrect. I did not say they did not qualify. I said they did not automatically qualify. That is a discreet difference.

                4. I provided evidence. The FFA shut down the FFA Centre of Excellence this year. Head coach was Tony Vidmar and has been in operation since 1981. Again you are wrong as I provided evidence.

                5. The FFA have had years to develop a blueprint for expanding the competition. That again is an opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

                6. Because the game is bigger than just being played in the capital cities. I was factually correct with my statement. We hold a difference of opinion.

                7. Again my statement was not factually incorrect. Read what I said. It is about jumping ship with an organisation with lots of problems.

                8. You said my article was full of factual errors. You have said so what. You hold a different opinion. You have not provided any evidence to suggest my statement is factually incorrect.

                The a league expansion clubs are not being propped up by the revenues about the clubs they are in fact being propped up by the broadcasting revenue is that the AFL receives from channel 7 and Fox sport. So therefore I think your view is incorrect.

                9. You are correct in this is one of my weakest statements given that Western Sydney had won the competition in its first year of trying. However I believe over the last few years I’ve only clubs have struggled and that was my point. In the 2017 AFC champion league No strain teams got past the first round of Brisbane and western Sydney came last in their group and Adelaide come third in the group. In the 2016 addition of the AFC champions league both Sydney and Melbourne we knocked out in the round of 16. I so again I do not believe I am factually wrong because I thought use the qualifier recent.

                10. Oh well has Australia performed on the world stage in football both in youth competitions and in senior men. I’m going to go out on the limb here and I’m going to say that Australia has performed poorly at the youth level in recent years.

                Your statement that you made is again just an opinion but it is an opinion which has no voracity. Given that Australia does reasonably well in rugby league on the world stage, the same can be said for cricket. In cycling we punch well above our weight.

                I’m afraid Nemesis you’ve done nothing to disprove any of my statements and certainly I believe all my facts are correct. You have mistaken fax from opinions. So your statement ‘why have you included so many errors of fact’ It is because I didn’t and unfortunately I have disproved most if not all of your 10 points.

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:28pm
                Waz said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:28pm | ! Report

                On point (4) the CoE is being closed and replaced by 9 Academies. That surely is an upgrade and an improvement?

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:26pm
                Nemesis said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:26pm | ! Report

                Appreciate your reply, Alistair Nitz.

                Needless to say, I don’t accept any of your rebuttals, but it’s pointless going back & forth; so, I’ll agree to disagree.

                Your comment about rugby & cricket performing well at international level is laughable if you’re comparing that to football at international level.

                The only sports you can compare at international level are Track & Field.

                PS: Didn’t Bangladesh recently give Australia a smack in cricket? Just as well AUS never have to qualify for a Cricket WC through Asia. I reckon they’d struggle.

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:33pm
                Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

                Nemesis we will have to agree to disagree on.

                But I will make one last statement don’t you recall that Australia was number one in test cricket and also one-day cricket less than 12 months ago. Didn’t Australia come second in the World Cup of rugby league.

                Oh and that smacking Bangladesh going to Australia. The test series was drawn one all. Come Nemesis, get your facts right 🙂

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:40pm
                Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

                It is too early to suggest that the football academy run by the clubs will be a more successful model than the CoE. What we do know is the FFA shut down the centre of excellence to save money and put those costs on the clubs

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:51pm
                Nemesis said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:51pm | ! Report

                “What we do know is the FFA shut down the centre of excellence to save money and put those costs on the clubs”


                Are you suggesting, if the CoE hadn’t closed, the ALeague clubs would never operate academies?

                That’s absolutely ridiculous.

          • September 15th 2017 @ 1:25pm
            chris said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:25pm | ! Report

            So with all those outstanding credentials, why throw in the line about no longer a threat to league and AFL? Was that really necessary?
            It belittles your article.

            • September 15th 2017 @ 2:07pm
              Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 2:07pm | ! Report

              Sorry Chris, I do not understand how that statement belittles the argument.

              Football has the most participation of all sports in Australia. Particularly at the grassroots level. That does not convert to the top competition. Where does A-League average crowds sit compared to average AFL or NRL crowds. A disappointing third place.

              Compared broadcasting ratings between the three sports. Again the A-League comes in third place. And broadcasting revenues. Over $2 billion for AFL and NRL over six years compared to FFA’s $346 million.

              When is the A-League going to expand its competition. It needs to expand if it wants to increase fans across the country. It can’t be just in the capital cities.

              Therefore, how is football a threat yo NRL and the AFL? Really. These are the sports that the FFA is fighting for the entertainment dollar. Isn’t it?

              • September 15th 2017 @ 2:19pm
                chris said | September 15th 2017 @ 2:19pm | ! Report

                Alistair your entire article is about the governance of the game and how that is the reason why the A-League isn’t a threat to NRL and AFL. To me its more complex than that. League and AFL basically starts and ends in Australia. AFL in particular has zero exposure outside of this country. The only AFL people get to watch are from March to September and spread across 16 odd teams. Globally.
                Football fans can get their fix in so many different markets its not even a contest. Yes it would be great to convert the grass roots participation to viewing numbers for the A-League. To say it is not a threat to league and AFL well it certainly is and as far as participation levels is well and truly on top.

            • September 15th 2017 @ 3:20pm
              Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:20pm | ! Report

              Chris, The central premise of the article is the FFA is distracted from the key strategic issues because it is so focused on getting the governance model that it wants rather than the governance model that the game needs. As a result there are growing problems with in football in this country. If this continues then it will have trouble trying to grow the game.

              The article is not about why the a league is in a threat to the NRL and the AFL. That is only why I only included one line. However if the governing body continues to be distracted then it will have trouble screwing the game and therefore it won’t be a threat to the NRL and the AFL.

              • September 15th 2017 @ 3:51pm
                chris said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:51pm | ! Report

                Fair enough. You seem to apportion all blame on governance of the game. No mention of the free rides that other sports get from main stream media to protect their vested interests. No mention of govt funding skewed towards sports with influential lobby groups to the detriment of sports with huge grassroots participation (eg. football and basketball).
                No mention of the enormous logistical obstacles that confront the FFA in regards to our international teams across all age groups (men and womens).
                But yes you’re right, we all have our own opinions.

          • September 15th 2017 @ 3:45pm
            j,binnie said | September 15th 2017 @ 3:45pm | ! Report

            Alistair – Being a bit of a history buff I will correct you on one item ,Australia went to its first World Cup in 1974 using a team of part time players mostly procured from State leagues. They played in a section that contained the eventual World Cup winners ,West Germany, Beckenbaur,Maier, Brietner, Mueller and all, losing 0-3 to the W.Germans, 0-2 to the East Germans and drawing 0-0 with Chile.
            Also I could mention ,being involved in grassroots football for many years as you claim, I am surprised you did not mention the introduction of small sided games on small pitches as a method of improving junior coaching introduced in 1974/75.
            Today we are encouraged to believe that these things are the basis of the curriculum ,first introduced in 2011!!!!!.
            Strange how history can be twisted is it not? I have a photo of myself with my six a side team taken in 2002!!!!! Cheers jb.

            • September 16th 2017 @ 4:16am
              Alistair Nitz said | September 16th 2017 @ 4:16am | ! Report

              I am glad you are history buff, but I do not understand your first point about 1974. I was making a reference about Australia qualifing for the WC in 2005 for the first time since 1974. I was not complaining about the Socceroos performance in 1974.

              • September 16th 2017 @ 8:03am
                j,binnie said | September 16th 2017 @ 8:03am | ! Report

                Alistair – Let me explain simply by citing your actual words written on this site.

                “I was in Sydney when Aloisi scored his penalty to take Australia to its FIRST WORLD CUP”

                Please excuse me if I somehow misunderstood those words.

                Also surprised that you made no comment about my second point which in fact is a sad indictment of the governing bodies, both then and now, when in fact it makes a mockery of the supposed “new” curriculum introduced at great expense in 2009.
                In long gone previous comments on this site I have seen comments from Socceroos from our so called “Golden Generation” who admitted to having played in small sided games on small pitches in their junior days in the game.
                As i said before history can be twisted to suit. Cheers jb.

      • September 15th 2017 @ 9:32am
        Midfielder said | September 15th 2017 @ 9:32am | ! Report

        OH well said

      • September 15th 2017 @ 1:46pm
        Alistair Nitz said | September 15th 2017 @ 1:46pm | ! Report

        It is interesting how you say that Futsal does not representation on the FFA Congress because it is represented by the States bodies. Why have women representation as the state bodies look after women’s football too. The State bodies obviously not doing their job given the Futsalroos had to pull out of international tournaments this year because the FFA withdrew funds to save money. It may not have happened if Futsal had representation on the governing body. Were you aware of that?

        Re financial condition of A-League clubs. I would not say Central Coast Mariners have a strongest balance sheet. Would you? Why do you think they were selling home games to Canberra last season. Brisbane Roar and Adelaide United have had their own recent troubles as well. Only April this year Adelaide United faced sanctions for non payment of players superannuation. There is your evidence you wanted.

        You may not have an issue with FIFA/ AFC involvement. But do you want them running the game in Australia? Not exactly an ideal outcome. If you thought it was no big deal, why are there only two recent member countries that have had the normalisation committee running there domestic game?

        There were plenty of articles at the time of the awarding of the broadcast deal to Fox Sports about how the money would be spent. How the FFA wanted more from broadcasters. Feel free to google it. Why do you think clubs want increased representation on the FFA Congress. To have a say on how football is run. May be how funding is distributed.

        And where are the FFA blueprints for expanding the A-League competition? It suppose to be out February this year if I recall correctly.

        • September 15th 2017 @ 4:20pm
          Post_hoc said | September 15th 2017 @ 4:20pm | ! Report

          If Futsal or as you seem more concerned with the Futsalroos are not represented correctly then that is an issue for the state bodies, as far as I am aware the socceroos or the Matildas do not have a representative on the committee but you want the futsalroos to have one? I am really confused what your issue is, is it with how futsal is run in each of the states? Or is ti with funding for the National futsal team? Because representation would not impact that. I also noticed how your ignored other football programs therefore having a representation, such as the pararoos, street football, etc etc etc, why is futsal so special? btw my kids play futsal so i have vested interest.

          So you are making assumption in this area, you presume Mariners are in financial strife because they hocked so games to the ACT, well if that is a criteria then Port Adelaide is in series strife because they went to China to play a game. Or do you think it might be a team trying to broaden it’s market?

          Then you bring in Adelaide and Brisbane, no evidence for Brisbane, the only evidence was Adelaide which was $80,000 in super payments which were rectified. So fine state your opinion, but unless you can back it up, and you have tried to twice now, and shown to be wrong.

          You claim the owners were disappointed, yet waffled on about something but again didn’t bother identifying any evidence.

          The point I and others have made about your article, is you seem to want to talk about the Congress issues, which is great, go for it. But you throw in all this other “news” stuff, that on the looks of things the majority of people who have read and now have commentated on your article can’t see any connection to the congress at best and in fact is totally irrelevant and in many cases wrong.

          So think about what you want to write, if it is about the congress, go for it, if it is just to have a whinge and a kick at the FFA then get in line, it appears to be the most popular participation sport behind Football.

          • September 16th 2017 @ 4:49am
            Alistair Nitz said | September 16th 2017 @ 4:49am | ! Report

            Is this for real? I am not going to re-prosecute my point about futsal as we have a difference of opinion. I will make one last point as I am not a going to waste anymore oxygen on it. I wanted to make the point that why does not futsal have a voice on the governing body? Especially since the FFA can determine its funding. The Socceroos have a voice through the FFA. Women’s football need a voice too. I am glad you have a vested interested futsal. It is a fun game.

            Feel free to google Brisbane Roar and financial troubles and you will find all the evidence you want. Even their own supporters group wanted the team owners removed.

            You asked for evidence on Adelaide. I provided it. They were forced to pay player superannuation or they would have been sanctioned. So I am wrong or you just wear blinkers! Because financially strong clubs don’t make their player payments.

            Are you telling me that Central Coast Mariners have a strong balance sheet? When was there last marquee player? Which big name players did they recruit last year?

            The PA deal to China was totally different. That was aimed at tapping Chinese sponsors given crowded Aust market. PA had a $4million budget to put on the game. What did CCM have for the Canberra games? They did not even make it a long term relationship because they could not get convince the ACT Government to provide additional funds to play games in Canberra this season and beyond.

            You should be careful when you are calling the kettle black.

            • September 16th 2017 @ 8:11am
              Nemesis said | September 16th 2017 @ 8:11am | ! Report

              @Alistair Nair

              Have you seen – actually seen with your own eyes – even one balance sheet, P&L Statement, Cash Flow & all the accompanying notes that accompany the Annual Financial Statements for ALeague clubs?

              If you have; fine.

              If you have not; how about you desist from commenting on topics where you are ignorant?

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