Can the Boks make me angry again?

Interesting comment re the two opportunistic tries as oz did exactly the same to the ABs to go 17-0 up, yet as you say where the Boks didnt rally the ABs did exactly that, came back from a similar horror start.

The Springboks got "blitzed" against the All Blacks in their last test. NZ scored two opportunistic tries in quick succession (against the run of play I'd like to add), and then completely sunk the Boks' hopes of making a game of it when they forced a mistake to score the third. It was always going to go downhill quickly from there against this confidence-oozing All Black side that had a point to prove on the day (after the mediocre performances by their standards in previous games). Let's not get too hung up on that last result. It wasn't a true reflection of the quality of this Boks side. This current Boks side is a good team, inexperienced as they are. I especially enjoyed the team spirit they have shown in 2017 so far. For obvious reasons we didn't see much of that in the last test. Their true mettle as a team will now be tested in the upcoming tests. Quotas (whether you are for or against it) are a reality (and maybe a necessary "evil") of SA rugby. I feel though it shouldn't be used as an excuse for for why we are losing games or be a reason why we won't support our national team. If it is true love there can be no divorce.

Yes Biltong I know two wrongs dont make a right, but this was inevitable and its source was the previous regime. If the previous generations of those in power now had had the same rights and privileges, same opportunities in politics for example, the country might now have a very different political outlook. But put in power all of a sudden those who's forebearers knew nothing but suffering and restrictions, for one theyre going to have no idea how to be politically or economically astute, let alone apply an appropriate fairness to all people. Thats just a pipe dream. Pain must come first and controversial as it might seem but theres the thinking that Mandelas tolerance and reconciliation approach 'robbed' the country of what it needed to make real change. I dont think its being hypocritical, both regimes are bad, but one definitely gave rise to the other. And I know many other African nations are in worse positions, which makes the 'white man running an African country' unique. But it was done in such a non compromising way that it was always going to end in tears. The shoe doesnt fit now, the people, their beliefs, their cultures are far too different to just 'work'. Its just a very unique scenario where that 'pain' missing previously is now being drawn out in many forms.

The truth is that Quota's and Transformation ad nothing to do with the 57-0 drubbing. We were simply outclassed on the day. Quotas are always the scapegoat for when we loose. SA rugby is in a the middle of a transition period. SARU are expanding the reach of rugby within the country, and the major positive of transformation is that it broadens the talent pool within SA. A few people ave mentioned that there's some really exciting talent coming through... Siya Kolisi is actually a product of Transformation in that a rugby clinic went out to a rural community were he was spotted/scouted and recruited to one of SA's "rugby school's" in the Eastern Cape. The reality is that for the past century the Springbok's have played with quotas (whites only), whist the Coloured Rugby board of SA has existed since the late 1890s. So the reason the Boks are loosing more nowadays is due to the evolution of the game in the pro era amidst the changes within the country. Politics has always been a part of the Rugby landscape, especially after 1994, because the Springboks and Sport in general in SA is such a powerful unifying medium for a fractured nation. "Transformation" is as much a mental thing as it is an appearance thing. Heyneke Meyer predicted we would loose more games before we could "right" ourselves, but he was not referring to quotas or transformation, but to the way the game is being played. SA have just been stubborn and slow to progress with the, placing greater emphasis on brawn over brains+skills.

T'man as much as I understnd your stance on this I find your stance hypocritical as well. Two wrongs don't make a right. And as much as I accept tranformation is necessary, when you leave it up to the wrong individuals they will F that up as well.

Yes robel. So tell me, by making that statement, why the NZRFU, have been so successful over the years? Our government, don't run the game!!!

Oh look its all sad, neither is good, but it also wasnt our fault either. We had to put up with a lot just to support the regime of the past. We were told not to bring certain players on tour. The Boks even wanted us not play Maori here, in our own country! Whole continents boycotted us as the Olympics, the country was divided in 81 so that our own were throwing bottles and beating up our own in our own streets, all in that period of bliss and avid support you call in the last 65 years. Were you out publicly protesting apartheid or did you leave it to countries like us to finally say enough is enough and send you in to isolation until you sorted it out. Thankfully, one Nelson Mandela was fast gaining favour. Thats why have little sympathy for those who prospered under the old regime who now complain today. That regime created this mess. Power of running the country suddenly went to a large number of people who have no idea how to run it. And still dont. So yes, its bad now, and it was worse then, but its up to SA to sort it out, weve done our bit, and really dont feel like doing it all over again.

Thank you.

T.Man.So" time pastt has become time present" Perhaps time future??/ After 23 years of payback in all areas of life.???.The world cup team in2019 has to include 10 black players. Not player of colour,but negroid.There is a distinction. Rugby is a game which I love.After 65 years of avid support for SB,s I decided 2 years ago to no longer watch them playSad,but liberating..

We both know who is the proven liar of us. And it is there for anyone else to see also if they look in our comment history.

Hahahaha You, the great Kiwi who knows all things rugby according to yourself, showed how little you really know about rugby and what a weak man you are. The lies, the insults, the arrogance... I can go on.

Dont worry, ill just use yours. There lying around all over this site. Not really into bell bottoms though.?

I get 9/10 right every time. Do you? You didnt get it either. Do I go on about that. So I missed the upset of the century. Im not the only one chump.

Yes exactly, the difference hardly meriting a change using that example.

I take great offence to this article:.. There is only one team at the top ... the rest are chasing

South Africa is an incredibly fluid society . It is changing literally by the day . Some of those changes I am very pleased with and some not . Change is not always easy . Rugby does not exist in isolation anymore ( thank goodness) and will also reflect those changes. Quotas for example are not exclusive to rugby and are applied throughout everyday life and although I do not support them , I cannot escape the reality that the majority of our citizens do. I believe and support fully in development and progress but it must be a bottom up not top down process. to support my viewpoint a good analogy would be our business and commercial sector where quotas are vigorously applied yet we have one of the worlds worst education systems . The net result is a poorly educated and prepared populace being released into a globally competitive environment . Walking around the shopping malls etc I cannot escape the amount of black South Africans wearing Bok jerseys and other items . 20 Years ago this would have been unthinkable ........So positives indeed. Despite anger/negativity/frustration et al , by the end of this Rugby Championship South Africa will have the highest number of bums on seats out of all participating countries , a support base matched only by England . They will have supported rugby with a passion matched only by NZ and will have sold more Springbok paraphernalia than all the other RC teams combined. The sponsors will be delighted , getting bang for buck and the networks will count their cash. I have made a firm decision to not get angry any further and both love and appreciate the way New Zealand has taken this sport to a level that can only be admired and enjoyed.

Fifa , ICC , World Rugby ... All guilty . As Tman says , It is what it is.

Taylorman Meyer was selected on merit . PdeV and AC were selected on colour , as confirmed by SARU

Keep on yawning and keep on predicting that the AB's would smash the BIL's 3-0 (you really got that one right...) LOL!

Someone is getting bit desperate here... but what else is new? Soon we shall see you resort to lies, as you always do when you get caught with your pants down.