Wallabies must bring the angry: Byrne



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    The Wallabies must be up for the fight against an angry Springboks side who are tipped to take their trademark physicality to another level in Bloemfontein, assistant coach Mick Byrne has warned.

    South Africa were towelled 57-0 by New Zealand two weeks ago – the country’s worst Test loss, and one that has piled huge pressure on coach Allister Coetzee and his underperforming players.

    Byrne expects the Springboks will channel their shame through brute force in the contact zone when they meet the Wallabies on Sunday morning (AEST) at Toyota Stadium.

    “It is a non-negotiable to beat anyone, really. But South Africa bring a physicality. They pride themselves on that. They’re a nation of it,” he said.

    “There’s going to be – I would imagine – a little bit more given the week they’ve had.

    “That’s going to be a challenge for our boys to step up and meet them in that regard.

    “(That means) getting your low body height, getting underneath players, leg drive, all those things that represent physicality and getting to the contest first.”

    Local media have spent the last fortnight poring over the wreckage of the All Blacks defeat and are yet to turn their full attention to the challenges presented by the Wallabies.

    Springboks sports psychologist Pieter Kruger expressed his frustration that they haven’t engaged his services despite a result that would have mentally rattled the entire team.

    “Although I would have liked to have a full-time job, the Springboks currently only use me on an ad hoc basis… (which) is obviously very challenging when you are a performance psychologist,” Kruger told the City Press newspaper.

    “I will unfortunately not see them before the next game but I have shared my thoughts with Allister.

    “It will be massively important not to reinvent the wheel or go into panic mode.”

    © AAP 2018

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    • September 26th 2017 @ 7:02am
      Adsa said | September 26th 2017 @ 7:02am | ! Report

      The site of Ned Hannigan on the angry pills would really not be that intimidating to the Bok pack. Roll on the Clown show.

      • September 26th 2017 @ 8:13am
        Clifto said | September 26th 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

        Surely even the intransigent Cheika will acknowledge the need for a tougher, bigger stronger back row for this match.

        Especially as this was the Wallabies’ Achilles heel in the first Test vs the Boks.

        Concerned that a Hooper Hannigan McMahon back row will be underpowered.

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          September 26th 2017 @ 8:22am
          cashead said | September 26th 2017 @ 8:22am | ! Report

          I suspect Cheika will always insist on playing two openside flankers, with a lanky blindside, forever clinging on to that one time it worked when he fielded Hooper and Pocock together.

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          September 26th 2017 @ 9:20am
          PeterK said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:20am | ! Report

          especially since Kriel is out injured and they have recalled Francois Louw, all 1.9 m 115 kg as the opensider.

          He has monstered the oz pack before and the last thing you want against the bok pack is Mumm 2.0m Hooper and McMahon as the backrow.

          McMahon will be ineffective again at the breakdown and and try hard in tackling and running but just be beaten for size and strength yet again.

          Hooper should be kept due to his pace especially with the bok’s fastest forward Kriel out

          Tui at 6 and Timani at 8 with Hooper at 7 would be ideal.

          • September 26th 2017 @ 12:10pm
            Phil said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

            Still on about Mumm 2.0,PeterK.I think it is time to give that a rest,although I agree he should not be in the team this week.

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              September 26th 2017 @ 12:18pm
              PeterK said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:18pm | ! Report

              do you know that Mumm was a mentor of Hanigan.

              He would be proud to be called Mumm 2.0!

            • September 26th 2017 @ 12:20pm
              Fionn said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

              Yeah, mate, they said on the TV that Hanigan’s mentor is Dean Mumm, which I found quite amusing.

              Perhaps the irony isn’t lost on Ned.

              I still prefer my own ‘Ned Flanders’ comparison though. Nice blokes, those Neds.

            • September 26th 2017 @ 1:46pm
              marto said | September 26th 2017 @ 1:46pm | ! Report

              Ned Flanders is 2.0 Phil…..He should be banished foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

            • September 26th 2017 @ 6:16pm
              cuw said | September 26th 2017 @ 6:16pm | ! Report

              it was interesting to see both DAVE DENNIS & JAMES HORWILL have very good games for Chiefs and Quins ( Horwill as skipper) during the weekend.

              White did not do badly also.

              quite a few auzzy players were on show in addition to above…

          • September 26th 2017 @ 6:55pm
            cuw said | September 26th 2017 @ 6:55pm | ! Report

            well at least in one aspect the two teams seem to be on par – both have 2 openside flankers šŸ™‚

            Flow is a 7 tho built like a blindside , he plays 7 for Bath .

      • September 26th 2017 @ 9:08am
        Charlie Turner said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:08am | ! Report

        Adsa, an angry Ned Hanigan would be like a Will Farrel parody of a rugby player and just look ridiculous. Two away losses then another in the dead rubber at Suncorp may be the best thing that could happen. Cheika would be 3/9 for the season and the only argument to keep him would be his payout. Maybe the Force boys could talk Twiggy into throwing some loose change at the problem.

        There are options, any combination of Jake White, Link, Brian Smith and Wessels. Matt Taylor is off contract mid next year and should be a high priority as defence coach. The thing that always impressed me about White was his willingness to bring in outsiders when necessary and credit them for success when due e.g Jones at the 2007 RWC.

        • September 26th 2017 @ 9:51am
          Dave_S said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:51am | ! Report

          Actually he looks more like Owen Wilson

        • September 26th 2017 @ 4:04pm
          Walt1010 said | September 26th 2017 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

          I thought Wife’s defining characteristics were his ability to pass off his major stakeholders, treat his players like schoolboys and exit his contract prematurely?

          • September 26th 2017 @ 4:08pm
            Charlie Turner said | September 26th 2017 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

            The Brumbies gig was not his finest moment.

            • September 27th 2017 @ 12:10am
              Jack said | September 27th 2017 @ 12:10am | ! Report

              Jake turned a team that was a rabble, full of entitled players who had a lock on Wallabies spots, into a team of professional players and a competitive team. As a Brumbies member I will always be grateful. He saved the club.

              • September 27th 2017 @ 10:44pm
                ThugbyFan said | September 27th 2017 @ 10:44pm | ! Report

                He is definitely needed at the Tahs then, aka your description “a team that was a rabble, full of entitled players who had a lock on Wallabies spots.” Some of the games I saw from them this year, they were going through the motions. I wonder if they blushed when they picked up their pay cheques.

      • September 26th 2017 @ 10:16am
        Sammy said | September 26th 2017 @ 10:16am | ! Report

        Speaking of clown show. They should find an full length field to train on, that mite help. Another example of incompetence.

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      September 26th 2017 @ 9:22am
      PeterK said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:22am | ! Report

      ā€œ(That means) getting your low body height, getting underneath players, leg drive, all those things that represent physicality and getting to the contest first.ā€

      This is exactly why neither Mumm 2.0 or McMahon should be chosen.

      Their body height is constantly too upright. They are quite poor at cleaning players out of rucks.
      At least McMahon has a good leg drive but isn’t enough.

    • September 26th 2017 @ 9:25am
      taylorman said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:25am | ! Report

      Have Harry Jones and Mick been collaborating? Must be something in it…get the biff out W’s…in a legal way of course.

    • September 26th 2017 @ 9:31am
      marto said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:31am | ! Report

      The only time a Wallaby player is angry these days is when their Wallaby payment is not in their bank account on time.

      Soft as marshmellows No heart, No pride in the jersey..Look at that deadbeat no hoper loser we have as captain..Never looks presentable.socks always down,hair all over the place, jersey hanging out..No idea how to do an interview..


      • September 26th 2017 @ 12:13pm
        Phil said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:13pm | ! Report

        Speaking of dead beat,no hoper losers.Have a look in the mirror,Marto.

        • September 26th 2017 @ 12:48pm
          marto said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:48pm | ! Report

          Does Phil get a discount on the Grandma Shandies just because he’s Hoopers cousin ?
          I say we let him drink his lollie water drink or we get the players Union involved.
          Phil should not be discriminated against just because he can sit on a watered down rum for 3 days.

      • September 26th 2017 @ 5:46pm
        double agent said | September 26th 2017 @ 5:46pm | ! Report

        Pathetic comment.

        • September 27th 2017 @ 9:58am
          marto said | September 27th 2017 @ 9:58am | ! Report

          Pathetic comeback..Keep trying princess..

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      September 26th 2017 @ 9:48am
      PeterK said | September 26th 2017 @ 9:48am | ! Report

      If you want to try and match the physicality then you need to choose the right pack

      01 Sio
      02 TPN
      03 Kepu
      04 Arnold
      05 Coleman
      06 Tui
      07 Hooper
      08 Timani

      16 Ulese (no Moore in the side)
      17 Alaalatoa (no Robertson, Tripple A has to play here since Faulkner is a THP and no other LHP’s in squad)
      18 Faulkner
      19 Rodda (no Simmons)
      20 McMahon

      This is at the cost of the set piece.

      Simmons could be added instead of Rodda to shore up the lineout and scrum at the cost of physicality, a trade I would make actually. Probably have Simmons start and Arnold off the bench. Can afford to do this with both Mumm 2.0 and McMahon out of the starting xv.

      • September 26th 2017 @ 10:53am
        Terry said | September 26th 2017 @ 10:53am | ! Report


        Will Tui and Timani be doing all of Hoopers in tight work while he swans out in the backs ? ( Again ) Until the Wallabies punt Hooper, the backrow will suffer, thus the team will suffer.

        Over the last 3 years of mediocrity how many backrow partners has Hooper had ?

        Mumm 2.0
        Tui ?

        Hooper is the problem, He is the constant. He is not the solution..Cheika is a dopey Pr@#K


        6 Tui
        7 Pocock
        8 Timani

        22 Hooper super sub for 15 mins max ( backs cover only as he cannot compete at the breakdown )

        • September 26th 2017 @ 10:33pm
          Amateur Hour said | September 26th 2017 @ 10:33pm | ! Report

          Yes, yes, yes!

          Hooper should come off the bench against tiring defences.

          He’s our Ardie Savea.

      • September 26th 2017 @ 11:31am
        Markus said | September 26th 2017 @ 11:31am | ! Report

        Strong looking pack. And would it really be at a cost to the set piece?

        It would vastly improve the scrum compared to the lightweight back row at present.

        And while Hanigan is a stronger lineout jumper than Timani or Tui, he is no Mowen or Mumm (or even Higginbotham or Fardy) and the two more than make up for his exclusion as a target.

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          September 26th 2017 @ 11:43am
          PeterK said | September 26th 2017 @ 11:43am | ! Report

          I was meaning Simmons is a better at set piece than Rodda so I would have Simmons over Rodda.

          Also both the lineout and scrum struggled against the Boks.

          So I would not be averse starting Simmons over Arnold and bring Arnold on last 30 mins. Simmons is better at lineout and scrum than Arnold.

          Arnold’s work rate has been down so if he knows he only has to do 30 mins he could have a higher intensity for 30 mins and impact.

          Tui and Timani would be better than Hanigan and McMahon for the scrum and lineout , another reason I included both.

          The main issue is a lack of mobility and pace but that would be Hooper’s job anyway.

          • September 26th 2017 @ 12:24pm
            Fionn said | September 26th 2017 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

            A physical backline would have Hunt/Kerevi and Kuridrani/Kerevi in the midfield, Folau/Koroibete/Naivalu and Hodge on the wings. Beale, despite his improved defence, can hide out the back as he still doesn’t offer physicality.

      • September 27th 2017 @ 7:21am
        Cynical Play said | September 27th 2017 @ 7:21am | ! Report

        Most excellent pack PK

    • September 26th 2017 @ 10:20am
      Daz said | September 26th 2017 @ 10:20am | ! Report

      57 to zero, with zero talk beforehand about how the darkness were going to cope with the Bok’s “physicality”. Maybe it’s because they select the best players in their rightful positions, who stay in those positions and who can perform the core functions of that position. Over to you Michael.