The Jake Lever trade is guaranteed to get ugly

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    So it’s official: out-of-contract Crow Jake Lever wants to join the Melbourne Demons, and has agreed to a four-year deal with the club.

    There’s a bit of debate about just how much that deal is worth from a financial perspective – some saying it’s about $750,000 a year, others that it’s closer to $900,000.

    Whatever the amount is, Adelaide are putting the message out there that it’s more than they were willing to pay, and have gone so far as to claim that Lever’s decision is purely financially motivated.

    That is no doubt at least part of the story, but it wouldn’t be the whole story either – he is a native Victorian, after all.

    AFL clubs have a product to sell to their fans though and that product is not always necesarilly the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    It’s much better for the Crows to have their fans turn on Lever for his alleged greed than it is to have them turn on the club and ask how they allowed such a talented player to slip out of their grasp.

    And turn on Lever they have. Just check out their comments on the news on Facebook or Twitter – or this remarkably salty Wikipedia edit.

    It’s not the first time in recent years that an elite talent has decided to leave the Crows – Lever follows in the footsteps of Nathan Bock, Phil Davis, Jack Gunston, Kurt Tippett, and of course Patrick Dangerfield.

    Why the Crows can’t retain these players is one of the more puzzling mysteries in footy. From the outside looking in they appear to offer pretty much everything you could want in a place to play football.

    Maybe there’s an endemic problem at the club, maybe it’s just bad luck. Bock and Davis were both poached by expansion clubs with more dollars available to spend, Dangerfield just genuinely want to go home, and Tippett received a mega-offer.

    It’s entirely fair for Adelaide and their fans for being a bit miffed about the whole thing. Lever only spent three years at the club, a far cry from the “ten or 15” he said he wanted to on draft night.

    He came to the team as a kid who had missed the entire previous season with an ACL injury and the Crows still had faith enough in him to draft him inside the first round – it’s not unreasonable to be sour about said faith not being repaid.

    For the whole thing to come just three days after a grand final loss only adds insult to injury. The news would be received much better – albeit still not well – if he was leaving the club as a premiership player.

    One thing’s for sure, Lever will get a vocal welcome when he next appears at Adelaide Oval. The AFL would be mad not to schedule a Friday night game for Melbourne against the Crows there sometime next year.

    Jake Lever Adelaide Crows AFL 2017 tall

    (Photo by Daniel Kalisz/Getty Images)

    The bitter taste in Adelaide’s mouth is spilling over into how they’re handling the trade.

    They say they understand Lever wants to go to Melbourne, but they don’t really give a rat’s behind, and will negotiate with any of the ten Victorian clubs who may be interested.

    Typical hardball talk that we see from clubs every year but very rarely does it come to anything.

    We’ll see plenty of talk about other clubs trying to muscle their way in on the deal over the next few weeks – with Collingwood likely to feature heavily in this discussion – but at the end of the day Lever has the right to veto any proposed trade and will presumably do so until a deal with Melbourne gets done.

    Adelaide want two first round picks for him and while that may sound steep it’s the kind of price you have to pay if you’re going to offer a 21-year-old the kind of money the Dees have.

    Lever is without a doubt the best young tall backman in the league and shows similar progress to what Alex Rance did at this stage in his career. If they could go back in time and get 21-year-old Alex Rance for two first-round picks, every AFL club would do it.

    That said, Melbourne do hold most of the cards here since Lever is uncontracted. They’ve reportedly offered picks 10 and 27 for him and if they force the Crows into a game of chicken, there’s a chance Adelaide blinks first.

    Still, I’d wager that Lever will join Melbourne in exchange for the Demons’ 2017 and 2018 first round picks, but Adelaide will throw in a second-round pick – possibly obtained from another club rather than one of their own – back the other way.

    Josh Elliott
    Josh Elliott

    Josh Elliott may be The Roar's Weekend Editor, but at heart he's just a rusted-on North Melbourne tragic with a penchant for pun headlines - and also abnormal alliteration, assuredly; assuming achievability. He once finished third in a hot chilli pie eating contest. You can follow him on Twitter @JoshElliott_29 and listen to him on The Roar's AFL Podcast.

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    • October 4th 2017 @ 8:13am
      Big Pete said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

      Football was great in the days of no money or very little money…so many individuals in a team today as can be seen as they turn their backs to there mates who have done all the hard work and wave to the crowd after scoring a goal its all about me me me…l dont know why clubs bother taking interstate players with high draft picks no wonder Brisbane are happy to trade there no.1 draft pick

    • October 4th 2017 @ 8:16am
      Sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:16am | ! Report

      A well written article. Lever told the club he wanted to be a 1 club player after he was drafted. If the final offer he got was around the $600-$650k and melbournes was around $800k as is being reported, is that really enough to forget the promise of being a 1 club player? And to say he will go to the draft if a deal can’t be done instead of staying with the club he said he would stay for 10-15 years at does not paint him in a very good light. I think the crows might be well shot of him as he seems to have some character flaws. Anyway he is gone and now the crows should get whatever they can and move on and get guys who really want to be there. I think they should prioritise players from SA in the draft where possible and actively seek to trade for SA players playing interstate. This would include inducing SA players playing interstate to not sign long term contracts with their club so that it is easier to then trade for them when they finish their contracts. The club needs to get busy and be smart about how they do it

      • October 4th 2017 @ 10:19am
        Aransan said | October 4th 2017 @ 10:19am | ! Report

        A player should be prepared to stay at a club for 80% of their market value and $600k to $640k should have been sufficient.

        • October 4th 2017 @ 10:28am
          Ando said | October 4th 2017 @ 10:28am | ! Report

          So you’d be happy to stay at your job for 80% of the pay offered for the same work elsewhere?

          • October 4th 2017 @ 11:50am
            Aransan said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:50am | ! Report

            I would be happy as a 21y.o. to stay at a job paying $640k when I was offered $800k elsewhere. No club could stay under the salary cap if it had to pay market value for all its players.

            • Roar Guru

              October 4th 2017 @ 11:58am
              Cat said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:58am | ! Report

              And if you knew your career only lasted for 10-12 years instead of the 40+ most of us work? You’d be wanting to maximise what you get every single year.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 12:36pm
                Basil said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:36pm | ! Report

                I was unaware footballers were banned from working once their AFL careers were over..

              • October 4th 2017 @ 2:52pm
                steve said | October 4th 2017 @ 2:52pm | ! Report

                What is with this stupid argument about a 10 – 12 year career and needing to maximise what you get paid. You know what happens when a football players career is over? they go and get a job like the rest of us little people do. Playing football doesn’t entitle them to not work after their mid 30’s. This is such a ridiculous argument. Plenty of people change careers and have multiple career in multiple fields over their working lifetime.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 3:25pm
                Macca said | October 4th 2017 @ 3:25pm | ! Report

                Steve – are you saying that if you had the chance to earn massive money for a decade and know that after that decade, being 30 and having spent your entire life in the highly controlled environments of school and the AFL, you would more than likely have to go back to earning south of $100k a year, you wouldn’t try to wring every cent out of that decade to ensure you had set yourself up for the rest of your life.

                The difference in offers mentioned by Sammy above is roughly double the average annual income and over the 4 years after tax we are talking about roughly an extra $400k – it is hardly small beer.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 4:11pm
                Aransan said | October 4th 2017 @ 4:11pm | ! Report

                Macca, I guess you are hoping Adelaide play hard-ball and Lever falls through to Carlton in the pre-season draft. Good luck with that one.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 4:15pm
                Macca said | October 4th 2017 @ 4:15pm | ! Report

                Aransan – I am not that interested in the blues getting Lever at all really – we are pretty set for tall defenders, I would prefer the blues spend $800k a year elsewhere.

              • Roar Guru

                October 4th 2017 @ 6:05pm
                Cat said | October 4th 2017 @ 6:05pm | ! Report

                Ty Macca for actually thinking this through. The rest of you open your bloody eyes. Sure Lever can go get a job after finishing up footy. How many jobs do you think someone with no experience at doing anything else is going to get paid $800-900k/yr that he can get now? These are his peak earning years. One injury and it can all be gone.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 8:26pm
                Mark said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:26pm | ! Report

                Exactly.
                Steve, you’re the one with the stupid argument. Pull your head in.

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                October 4th 2017 @ 10:24pm
                Anthony said | October 4th 2017 @ 10:24pm | ! Report

                When an AFL players 10-12 year career is over, they are 10-12 years behind in their next career. Unless of course their next career is AFL related.

        • October 4th 2017 @ 11:57am
          Adrian said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:57am | ! Report

          He’s looking at between 600 000 & 800 000 extra over 4 years and you’re saying he should give this up to be a one club player in a job that probably will last 6-10 years at the most. Also remember the club would delist him in a blink of an eye if it suited them. Take the money and run mate, it could set you up for life.

          • October 4th 2017 @ 12:54pm
            sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

            He said he wanted to be a 1 club player and was grateful the crows took a chance on him in the first round when others didn’t and he wanted to repay the club…great way to repay them eh. I think his manager has a lot to answer for here as I am sure that a deal with Melbourne could have been very amicable if Lever and his manager said to the dees that the crows will be prepared to trade him for 2 1st round picks, but if they would not part with 2 1st round picks that Lever would be happy to consider another victorian club for similar money that could meet the crows demands or at the least would stay with the crows. By declaring he will go to the draft if a deal is not struck, he has flipped the bird in a big way to the crows and Fagan, Pyke, Burton etc are right to be p155ed. He will be a marked man when he returns to Adelaide with his new club I would think as there is some real bad blood there now

            • October 4th 2017 @ 8:01pm
              Fairsuckofthesav said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:01pm | ! Report

              Agree totally a very selfish young man with absolutely no concern for the club that took a risk and helped him establish his career. Bad karma. Danger has a lot more class.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 8:27pm
                Mark said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:27pm | ! Report

                Took a risk? Lol.

              • Roar Guru

                October 4th 2017 @ 9:36pm
                Handles said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:36pm | ! Report

                What a crock. He is entitled to leave. Adelaide are looking for 2 first round picks. That is precisely 100% more than they paid for him. I hate this sooky crap that supporters go on with, and hate it even more when clubs go on with it. Like it or not, it is a business. And if there is a single one of you out there who would stay in Adelaide if there was a Melbourne job offering $150k more per annum – then I will listen to your arguments. The rest of you should shut the stuff up.

      • October 4th 2017 @ 1:42pm
        Dexter The Hamster said | October 4th 2017 @ 1:42pm | ! Report

        Sorry Sammy, but it seems you are saying that it is bad that Lever wants to go back to Victoria (as an uncontracted player), but its OK for the crows to induce South Australian’s to come home and play for the crows (meaning they will not be 1 club players either). Seems like having your cake and eating it too….

        • October 4th 2017 @ 1:55pm
          sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 1:55pm | ! Report

          I am saying the crows now need to play the same game as it is becoming far too easy for the Victorian clubs to lure back players. Also, Lever has contradicted himself on more than 1 occasion, will be a 1 club player, point to prove and grateful for the crows drafting him when others overlooked him, then it was waiting for the CBA, then it was manager is OS then he denied meeting with Melbourne, then I he needed to wait till after finals to make his decision..he strung not just the club but the supporters on for a long time. Maybe he should have shut his mouth and not said he will be a 1 club player, don’t talk about his contract, make no comment when pressed about meeting with rival clubs. Unfortunately the crows don’t make the rules but they sure as heck can start to play by them

          • October 4th 2017 @ 8:03pm
            Fairsuckofthesav said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:03pm | ! Report

            Sorry but Lever is a liar. There is no way around this. I wouldn’t believe anything he says.

            • October 4th 2017 @ 8:29pm
              Mark said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:29pm | ! Report

              I’m sure your opinion of him really cuts him deep.

            • Roar Guru

              October 4th 2017 @ 9:38pm
              Handles said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:38pm | ! Report

              I am pretty sure he wanted to be a 1 club player, but then after living in Adelaide he realised that the sacrifice was toooooo great.

              When I was 21 I said I wanted to cure cancer. Still haven’t done it. So if you think I am a liar too…I can live with that.

              • October 5th 2017 @ 3:52pm
                sammy said | October 5th 2017 @ 3:52pm | ! Report

                But you didn’t say you were not still trying to cure cancer, Lever has gone 180 degrees on his very public declaration at draft night. Maybe the approach would have been to not sprout off about being a 1 club player, don’t say you will be staying but are just waiting for the CBA to be signed etc etc. I wonder what was told during the draft interviews that will unlikely ever be told as the crows thought this guy had a pretty strong character and they have been burnt.

              • October 5th 2017 @ 3:59pm
                Macca said | October 5th 2017 @ 3:59pm | ! Report

                Sammy- what did you want Lever to say, “I am really happy to have been drafted by Adelaide and I just want to play some great footy so I have plenty of options to get back to Melbourne in a couple of years”?

                A draft night “I want to be a 1 club player” is about the same as “Of course I’ll still respect you” on a one night stand.

      • October 4th 2017 @ 5:04pm
        13th Man said | October 4th 2017 @ 5:04pm | ! Report

        Agree with targeting SA players same as WA clubs are targeting WA players.
        Freo for example have a very obvious plan of going after WA boys and will add Wilson, Matera and possibly Hogan to the 4 they got last year.
        Adelaide will go after Gibbs and perhaps should throw $$$ at Ryan Burton being an SA boy. Problem for Adelaide clubs is that a lot of South Australians don’t seem to have the same desire to move home as WA and Vic boys do. Perhaps this is to do with a lot of players preferring to live in Perth or Melbourne?

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          October 5th 2017 @ 9:27am
          Pedro The Fisherman said | October 5th 2017 @ 9:27am | ! Report

          You must mean players that have never lived in Perth?
          I will let Eddie Betts, Sauce Jacobs and Scott Thompson of their lack of desire to return home. Other SA lads also realise that they are adults and can return home to mummy in relatively short time using one of those plane thingys.

    • Roar Guru

      October 4th 2017 @ 8:31am
      Wayne said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:31am | ! Report

      It will get to a point where the AFL starts setting Minimum/Maximum buy rates for players forcing clubs to do trades. Players want full freedom to come/go as they please; why would clubs want to draft rookies/kids then. Just let another club do the work, and if they turn into something good then grab them.

    • October 4th 2017 @ 8:38am
      Brayden Rise said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:38am | ! Report

      I always thought when we did the Dangerfield trade it was all a bit too “gentlemanly”. I prefer the club taking a hard line approach. They should stand firm and only accept two first round picks or send him to the draft. He is too good a prospect for someone not to come over the top and swoop….North perhaps?

      • October 4th 2017 @ 8:44am
        David C said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:44am | ! Report

        At the end of the day Adelaide can’t let him go to the draft and get nothing so they will cave in and take what Melbourne is offering. If that is their first and second round picks I think Adelaide will have done well. That’s more than Lever is worth.

        • October 4th 2017 @ 9:16am
          Jolza said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:16am | ! Report

          But what if they don’t? What if they are finally sick of losing all these players who wish to go back to Victoria for solely family reason (the extra money from media commitments never is a factor) and decide they will play hardball.

          Plus what kind of system allows a third year player to be able to dictate terms entirely to go to the club of his choice? What is the difference between this and a free agent then from the player’s point of view? The AFL need to fix this system as right now the clubs have no power at all and the players hold all the cards.

          • October 4th 2017 @ 10:21am
            Aransan said | October 4th 2017 @ 10:21am | ! Report

            Well said.

          • October 4th 2017 @ 1:33pm
            King Bob said | October 4th 2017 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

            Agree; the system doesn’t seem balanced.
            I know he is a good player with good prospects but it seems like Melb is offering too much both in salary and draft picks.

            There are a number of other young backmen who are being paid far far less and just as good.
            How can Melb afford to pay so much. It will make it difficult when they need to resign Petracca, Gawn, Vandenberg, Brayshaw, VinceMcDonald etc next year.

          • October 4th 2017 @ 7:31pm
            Maurice said | October 4th 2017 @ 7:31pm | ! Report

            Like Stringer and Watts???.

        • October 4th 2017 @ 11:24am
          Don Freo said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:24am | ! Report

          That would send him to Brisbane…Adelaide still have the whip hand.

          • Roar Guru

            October 4th 2017 @ 12:01pm
            Cat said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

            Possibly but not guaranteed. Brisbane would have to have the salary cap space to take him at his nominated salary.

            • October 4th 2017 @ 12:13pm
              Don Freo said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:13pm | ! Report

              Isn’t that only with free agency? Can’t Brissy just offer him a base salary and Lever would have to sit out footy if he didn’t want to go?

              I don’t know but…you probably do.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 12:38pm
                AD said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

                He can nominate a salary if he goes in the draft. But if all Brisbane have to give up is pick 1 in the preseason draft to snare a player like Lever, they’d be making the room in the salary cap in a hurry.

                Even if he only goes there for a year then asks for a trade, they’re essentially turning a preseason draft pick this year into 1 or 2 first round draft picks next year. They’d do that in a heartbeat.

              • Roar Guru

                October 4th 2017 @ 6:10pm
                Cat said | October 4th 2017 @ 6:10pm | ! Report

                A player who does not qualify for FA and nominates for the draft can basically say ‘if you pick me this is the contract you have to give me’. There is no negotiations, if a club cannot pay that contract or is unwilling to pay it, then they cannot pick that player. It’s pretty much how Luke Ball got to Collingwood in the PSD despite other clubs being able to pick before the Pies. He nominated a salary the Pies were willing to pay but no one else was.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 8:34pm
                Aransan said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:34pm | ! Report

                Cat, I believe there was more to Ball going to Collingwood than you indicate. Ball made it very clear that the only club he was interested in was Collingwood and I still don’t know how he was able to get away with that.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 9:45pm
                Mattyb said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:45pm | ! Report

                How is Brisbane not going to have room in their salary cap,especially if Rockliff leaves?

      • October 4th 2017 @ 7:51pm
        Philby said | October 4th 2017 @ 7:51pm | ! Report

        I’m assuming you’re a Crows fan Brayden, but you could be a Cats fan, as it was the Cats that behaved very gentlemanly in the Dangerfield trade. As an FA, he could have left and you would have got a compo pick at the end of the first round only.

        Instead, Geelong agreed to trade and you got picks 9 and 28.

        And I’m not biased here, as I’m a (mighty) Tigers fan.

        I think Lever is not showing respect or gratitude to the Crows – he should ask, as Dangerfield did, for the two clubs to come to an arrangement before he starts making demands.

        • October 5th 2017 @ 2:03pm
          Jolza said | October 5th 2017 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

          Geelong only traded for him as the Crows had indicated they would match the offer as is allowed for a restricted free agent. It’s the only time ever that a club has indicated they would match the offer since free agency came in, and also partly why the trade was done for probably lower than Danger’s real worth. And also because he had been a good clubman for the Crows for years and the club understood his reasons for heading home. He played his guts out for us right until the end.

          There actually is a history of generally balanced and reasonable trades done between Geelong and Adelaide include the exchange of picks that the Crows used to pick up Lever (and Geelong got Cockatoo at 10).

      • Roar Guru

        October 4th 2017 @ 9:40pm
        Handles said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:40pm | ! Report

        Yeah, go Brayden. That makes so much sense. Give up a first and second round pick (offered already), to teach that bastard a lesson. Just get back to me when you figure out which bastard learns the lesson, cos not clear right now.

    • Editor

      October 4th 2017 @ 8:43am
      Josh Elliott said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:43am | ! Report

      Melbourne saying at a presser right now that they think the offer of pick 10 and their 2018 second-rounder is a fair deal.

      • Roar Guru

        October 4th 2017 @ 9:12am
        Wayne said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:12am | ! Report

        Would Crows Maybe accept Melbourne’s First and Second Rounder this year, 2018 Second Rounder for Lever and Crows 2nd Round this year?

        IN: Pick 10, 27, 2nd Round 2018
        OUT: Lever, Pick 34

        • October 4th 2017 @ 9:34am
          Sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:34am | ! Report

          Sounds fair to me as it is a first and a second in 2018 which is apparently a strong year and an upgrade on our second this year

      • Roar Guru

        October 4th 2017 @ 9:57am
        JamesH said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:57am | ! Report

        Isn’t that likely to be even worse than picks 10 and 27? Most people are tipping them to play finals next year.

      • Roar Rookie

        October 4th 2017 @ 11:34am
        Lamby said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:34am | ! Report

        What do you pay for the highest paid player in the club? What would Melbourne want for Petracca? What is a player who is probably going to be in the top 15 paid players in the comp worth?

        Adam Treloar cost Collingwood 2 first rounders (over 2 years – both top 10’s) as well as pick 62, in exchange for Treloar and the Giants’ pick 28. Treloar is supposedly on $650k a year – so at least $100k a year less than Lever. So from that trade Lever is worth 2 top 10 draft picks!

        (salary data from http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-16/afl-millionaires-club-swells-to-six-players)

        • Roar Guru

          October 4th 2017 @ 12:05pm
          Cat said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

          Not sure there is anyone that didn’t think the Pies massively paid overs in that trade so holding it up as the bar is not very accurate.

      • October 4th 2017 @ 8:06pm
        Fairsuckofthesav said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:06pm | ! Report

        Of course they do the hypocrites but are happy to poach this player with a huge financial offer. If he is worth that much then he is worth 2 1st round draft picks.

    • October 4th 2017 @ 8:45am
      James said | October 4th 2017 @ 8:45am | ! Report

      I’m not a crows fan but this trade is 99% financially motivated and 1% family reasons. If he really wanted to go back to Victoria for family reasons, he would say I want to go back to Victoria, this is the money I need, I don’t care where, just whatever is the best deal for the club so I’m close to family and friends.
      He’s just chosen the club which is paying the most.
      The crows called it for what it is, no need to try and make it something else.

      • October 4th 2017 @ 9:13am
        Jolza said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:13am | ! Report

        Exactly. People can’t try to claim the family reason is a large motivator when he has threatened to go to the PSD if he doesn’t get to the Demons. Clearly family isn’t that important if he is willing to risk going north to Brisbane because he is only willing to go to Melbourne and no other Victorian club.

        • Roar Guru

          October 4th 2017 @ 9:59am
          JamesH said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:59am | ! Report

          If he goes to the PSD there’s almost zero chance that none of NM, Carlton, Collingwood or StK will meet his asking price.

          • October 4th 2017 @ 10:28am
            sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 10:28am | ! Report

            Rumor has it that the crows have contacted Brisbane and Gold Coast to let them know Lever my go to the draft and that if the crows don’t get what they want, they will play hardball and send him there. I suspect this is all part of their strategy to make sure Melbourne pay up but more importantly tell lever that if Melbourne don’t offer what the crows want but another vic club do, that he better be prepared to move there or he will end up in Queensland where both Brisbane and Gold Coast can cover his contract demands. I hope that this rumor is true!!

            • Roar Guru

              October 4th 2017 @ 7:17pm
              XI said | October 4th 2017 @ 7:17pm | ! Report

              That would be insider trading. I can’t imagine the AFL would look too kindly on the Crows trying to manipulate the trading markets again.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 7:23pm
                sammy said | October 4th 2017 @ 7:23pm | ! Report

                Hardly insider trading to tell other teams that you will let a very good player head to the draft if the club that player wants to get to won’t cough up. The clubs (Brisbane & Gold Coast) are free top do what they want, but old Jakey boy had better be prepared to risk ending up in Brisbane / Gold Coast if he wants to play hardball

              • October 4th 2017 @ 9:59pm
                Mattician6x6 said | October 4th 2017 @ 9:59pm | ! Report

                Nick Stevens, port forced him into preseason draft after he nominated collingwood. Port were quite open that if pies didn’t meet what they wanted they were going that route and he ended up at blues, precedent has been set crows hold aces in this case.

              • October 4th 2017 @ 11:18pm
                Maggie said | October 4th 2017 @ 11:18pm | ! Report

                Where ‘aces’ = vindictiveness? Crows still lose Lever and get nothing in return?

              • October 5th 2017 @ 12:11am
                Mattician6x6 said | October 5th 2017 @ 12:11am | ! Report

                What they get is the chance to send a strong msg that they are not going to be bullied into a position by a player and his manager and that the outcome must be suitable to their needs not Melbourne’s. Effectively melb are after a 12 year player in lever and I find it amusing that they think they can dictate what is fair compensation If they don’t produce a fair deal let him go to Brisbane imo

          • October 4th 2017 @ 1:34pm
            Timmuh said | October 4th 2017 @ 1:34pm | ! Report

            North clearly would feel they have the cap space. Look at what was offered for Martin and Kelly.
            A tall defender isn’t the biggest gap at the club, but with other big trades not happening the money has to go somewhere (with the ridiculously high minimum cap, increasing cap and having no players other than Brown and Higgins worth diddlysquat).
            I doubt North would offer the rumoured amount, but could. Certainly well above zero chance.

      • October 4th 2017 @ 12:00pm
        Liam said | October 4th 2017 @ 12:00pm | ! Report

        Or alternatively, that’s what he’s told his manager to do – “Get me back home, I don’t care where” – and his manager has gauged interest, with an eye to getting a decent payday as well.

        I really wonder about people sometimes. D’you lot really think we’re given all – any – of the information required to make a reasonable judgement about any single trade? We’re outsiders looking in, at an industry that thrives on secrecy; unless one of you has information that is from inside the industry, quit your whinging.

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