Only win against All Blacks will do for Foley

By Murray Wenzel, Murray Wenzel is a Roar Guru

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    Bernard Foley is happy with the progress made by the Wallabies but says only a win against New Zealand on Saturday will give him satisfaction.

    Foley rates his men a massive chance of knocking off the All Blacks in Brisbane, having come within minutes of an upset in Dunedin on their last attempt.

    The fly-half has felt the consequential shift in goodwill both within and outside camp since a record loss to the champion side in August.

    But with only two wins against Argentina and two draws with South Africa to show for it, Foley sees Saturday as an opportunity to cash-in on their upward trend.

    “I think just among the squad there’s a lot more belief (since August), but we haven’t really achieved what we wanted,” Foley said.

    “We had two good wins and two draws; it’s not like we’re really playing the house down, but there has been that development and progress and I think this week has to go up another level.”

    The Wallabies were bullied by the All Blacks in a 54-34 loss in August – New Zealand’s highest score against the green and gold.

    But Australia displayed immense resolve to come within minutes of an upset in Dunedin in a performance seen as a turning point of sorts.

    Acknowledging that the side has taken a lot from that game, Foley said the video from that heartbreaking 35-29 loss had already been reviewed and tossed away, with no plans to dwell on it this week.

    “We dealt with it at the time and won’t be looking back at that,” he said.

    “But when we did watch it, we realised how the little details, the small moments are the ones we need to be prepared to win.”

    The Suncorp Stadium battle will be the Wallabies’ last on home soil this year, with a four-Test tour of Europe pencilled in for November.

    After slugging it out in South Africa and then Argentina, the Wallabies are enjoying a week of build up on the Gold Coast.

    “It’s great to be back home, and in our last home Test match before end of the year we want finish on a high and reward the rugby public and show we can come and play well at home,” Foley said.

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    • October 16th 2017 @ 2:09pm
      Jp said | October 16th 2017 @ 2:09pm | ! Report

      Just a win in general will do foley.

    • October 16th 2017 @ 3:38pm
      richard said | October 16th 2017 @ 3:38pm | ! Report

      From a NZ POV,this game has “banana skin” written all over it.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 11:46am
        zhenry said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:46am | ! Report

        Banana skin, won’t be happy unless we win (of course you won’t), they will be after us, ABs don’t do well in Brisbane tests, all the negatives you can think of re the ABs, by the AU owned media will come out to play.
        My opinion, ABs should not read AU media period; John Mitchell got that right.
        That’s what happens when you sell off your media to your staunchest competitor, forget sport, it doesn’t compare to the misinformation re politics and the economy.
        NZ will no doubt be lumbered with another conservative govt carrying the sign ‘NZ for Sale’ with reinforcement and cherrying on from the AU owned NZ media.
        AU gets to own us and most NZers are so naeve they don’t get it.

        • October 17th 2017 @ 2:55pm
          Colin Fenwick said | October 17th 2017 @ 2:55pm | ! Report


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            October 17th 2017 @ 6:13pm
            Sage said | October 17th 2017 @ 6:13pm | ! Report

            You haven’t heard about the aussie owned NZ media catastrophe before Col? Where have you been man. zhenry has been all over it for a long time now. We get to own NZ. Wasn’t on my aussie agenda but pretty cool all the same.

        • October 17th 2017 @ 5:53pm
          double agent said | October 17th 2017 @ 5:53pm | ! Report

          I was hoping this thread could just be about Rugby.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 3:25pm
        Terry said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:25pm | ! Report

        naaaaahhhhh Kurtley Beale is the only bloke who slips on banana peels

        Suncorp 2013, he lost us the LIONS series with the slip on the banana peel..

    • October 16th 2017 @ 4:05pm
      bluffboy said | October 16th 2017 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

      Yes, there is no doubt, this is to see how far they have come this year.
      I find it funny that they are still putting themselves in a situation to get hammered by the media/general rugby public
      making comments like
      “more belief (since August), but we haven’t really achieved what we wanted,”
      “but there has been that development and progress and I think this week has to go up another level.”
      “It’s great to be back home, and in our last home Test match before end of the year we want finish on a high and reward the rugby public and show we can come and play well at home,”
      That’s all well and good only if the All Blacks haven’t improved. Mate just say nothing and get on with it.
      I hope it is a Test for the ages, but a Banana Skin for me as well………

    • October 16th 2017 @ 4:24pm
      Terry said | October 16th 2017 @ 4:24pm | ! Report

      Foley 12 tests v AB`S, 1 win.

    • October 16th 2017 @ 5:50pm
      Jeffrey said | October 16th 2017 @ 5:50pm | ! Report

      This is Australia’s best chance to beat NZ in a long time. From the Sydney test, the ABs will be without Ben Smith, Beauden Barret (likely), Retallick, Dagg, Franks and Moody, while I believe Australia have improved since then in terms of performance and personnel. Still backing NZ in a close one but wouldn’t be surprised if the Wallabies sneaked this.

      • October 16th 2017 @ 7:00pm
        Jacko said | October 16th 2017 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

        They are saying Big Brodie may play

      • October 17th 2017 @ 3:23pm
        Terry said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:23pm | ! Report

        Has Ben smith even played in the RC ?..

        • October 17th 2017 @ 3:28pm
          Jerry said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:28pm | ! Report

          Played in both Bledisloe tests.

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      October 16th 2017 @ 5:52pm
      piru said | October 16th 2017 @ 5:52pm | ! Report

      This will probably come across as Kiwi arrogance but…

      Why are Australian fans suddenly so confident?

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        October 16th 2017 @ 6:22pm
        Sage said | October 16th 2017 @ 6:22pm | ! Report

        I’m certainly not so confident. It really is a hard crowd here so often. These are stock answers from a player during an interview. Comments regarding the AB’s being down on some players which is true. Them being tired and with nothing more to prove may improve the possibility of a sneak win to the WB’s. If that’s being ‘so confident’ then I suppose maybe I am after all. I believe all those things could play a part.
        Seems pointless not to believe your team could possibly win after they were beaten closely at the bell last time and things have changed slightly in their favour since.

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          October 16th 2017 @ 6:35pm
          piru said | October 16th 2017 @ 6:35pm | ! Report

          Wasn’t referring so much to here or the interviews, but there’s a heap of sudden (and in my opinion undeserved) confidence, to the point I’ve been told twice today that I’m getting my excuses in early.

          • October 17th 2017 @ 8:16am
            Fionn said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:16am | ! Report

            Piru, I actually think there has been less BS from the media and the players than we usually get.

            That being said, I think that people are feeling that the All Blacks have suffered a lot of injuries / players out for other reasons and that as a result of this if we are ever going to get a win over the All Blacks then this is the match that it is going to happen.

            I still give us about a 30% chance max.

            It’s a shame we couldn’t hang on in Dunedin, would have been a really, really exciting match otherwise.

            • October 17th 2017 @ 8:50am
              jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:50am | ! Report

              The thing is, that 30% chance is up from the 5-10% chance we would have said a few weeks ago.

              That’s why the optimism. The Aussies are showing some good signs, but as usual can’t put 80 mins together.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 8:53am
                Fionn said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:53am | ! Report

                Yeah, we are playing better.

                I think that this is a litmus test for where we stand. We’ve had a few good weeks together, had remarkably few injuries, had a week off to recharge our batteries and the All Blacks do not have their first choice 23.

                If we lose really badly then I guess it indicates that all the growth we have had comes to naught, but if we can make it a close match or even win then I think we can tentatively say that the team has turned a corner. If we do well it would have meant that we would have played well against the All Blacks in the last 5 halves of rugby we’ve played against them.

                I just can’t shake this fear that Cheika will do something like put Hanigan back in the team, however.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 12:55pm
                Cassandra said | October 17th 2017 @ 12:55pm | ! Report

                The world’s ultimate realists, bookmakers, have WBs at $5. So they give us 20% chance.

      • October 16th 2017 @ 6:23pm
        Dave_S said | October 16th 2017 @ 6:23pm | ! Report

        Because God decreed that Australia wins stuff. The AB’s recent short run of dominance over the WBs surely cannot last. Get with the program, piru.

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        October 16th 2017 @ 6:26pm
        Dingo McNumbat said | October 16th 2017 @ 6:26pm | ! Report

        It’s pretty simple. The sporting news cycle here runs for about a week, so if we play the All Blacks in back to back weeks no one thinks we have a chance because all articles that week are delayed responses to the previous week’s loss. But if you go past a week, the column writers have some inches to fill so they start talking about “signs the Wallabies might have found the secret to beating the All Blacks”.

      • October 16th 2017 @ 6:53pm
        DavSA said | October 16th 2017 @ 6:53pm | ! Report

        Yeah Piru . Sounds more like hopeful than confident. Only real advantages Aus has is home ground and possibly the fact that NZ had a much tougher match last week than the Wallabies .other than that I am not sure anything else will have changed much from the previous encounters.

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          October 16th 2017 @ 7:02pm
          piru said | October 16th 2017 @ 7:02pm | ! Report

          I’m all for hope (I am a Force fan after all) just curious as to where the braggadocio was coming from!

          • October 16th 2017 @ 7:22pm
            Stu said | October 16th 2017 @ 7:22pm | ! Report

            I think this thread has is a bit of kiwi hubris on display. Yep the abs are the best. Yes they have an 85% winning record atm, but that means that they do lose one game a year. It may not be this week, maybe ireland will do it again in a months time.

            Would you rather the wallabies went into the game saying they’d try their best, but the ABs were probably going to win?

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              October 16th 2017 @ 7:34pm
              piru said | October 16th 2017 @ 7:34pm | ! Report

              I’ve already said (and now twice) that I wasn’t referring to the Wallabies comments, but those of their supporters.

              One of the Aussie supporter threads is making a game of guessing the excuses the Kiwis will use after they lose!

              • October 17th 2017 @ 10:25am
                Rhys Bosley said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:25am | ! Report

                So you found one cocky Australian rugby thread in the whole internet and conclude that we are all over confident? Gee, that’s scientific.

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                October 17th 2017 @ 3:31pm
                piru said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:31pm | ! Report

                yes, because I’m all about scientific analysis in the area of facebook comments

            • October 16th 2017 @ 7:51pm
              KiwiHaydn said | October 16th 2017 @ 7:51pm | ! Report

              The ABs have already had their loss this season Stu, against the Lions ?

              • October 16th 2017 @ 10:44pm
                Stu said | October 16th 2017 @ 10:44pm | ! Report

                Haydn, the ABs didn’t really lose to the BILs. They just scored less points than BIL in one match and the same amount in another. I

                I have had heaps of kiwis explain at length to me that it was a moral victory for NZ, and that if you actually count points for and against over the whole series, that the ABs actually won the series.

                Regardless of the cross tasman cultual dissonance re-win/non win, the ABs can drop two matches and still retain an 85%+ non loss aggregate for the season.

                Also there is no way that they can beat England this November.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 3:49pm
                markie362 said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:49pm | ! Report

                They are not playing england this november so of course they cant win numbnuts

              • October 17th 2017 @ 7:30pm
                Stu said | October 17th 2017 @ 7:30pm | ! Report

                Cool caught a trout ?

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              October 16th 2017 @ 9:04pm
              atlas said | October 16th 2017 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

              Stu, I don’t give Ireland a chance next month … due to fact they are not playing the ABs.
              The NZ EOYT is Barbarians, France, a midweek France XV, Scotland, Wales

              • October 16th 2017 @ 10:23pm
                Stu said | October 16th 2017 @ 10:23pm | ! Report

                Thanks Atlas. It looks like the ABs will really struggle to beat Ireland on this EOYT.

            • October 17th 2017 @ 3:29pm
              Jerry said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

              Sweet, they’ve already got their loss for the year then.

          • October 17th 2017 @ 6:13am
            Milan said | October 17th 2017 @ 6:13am | ! Report

            No, you were a force fan mate. Remember they are now as dead as a DODO lol.

            That not such a ‘bizarre’ comment eh? Lol

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              October 17th 2017 @ 3:32pm
              piru said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:32pm | ! Report

              Always a pleasure Milan

              Did mum let you on the laptop for a bit?

              Perhaps you’d be better served doing some English homework than serving up such tosh.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 11:57am
        Terry said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:57am | ! Report

        Any team with Foley Hooper and Folau in it gives me no confidence. AB`S by 45

        • October 17th 2017 @ 2:25pm
          Jimbo81 said | October 17th 2017 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

          100% spot on. Add Moore, Simmons and Hannigan and NZ by 20+

          • October 17th 2017 @ 3:29pm
            Terry said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

            Surely Hanigan wont play? but with Rozza out injured, Chuckles may play him at lock, like where he played most of his mediocre rugby for the tahs in 2017,.hahahaha..AB`S BY 55 then.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 3:12pm
        Charlie Turner said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:12pm | ! Report

        Piru, The ARU must have hired a hypnotist to install this belief. Defence is still the big problem, The Crepe Wall of Chieka wont keep the All Blacks out for too long.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 3:24pm
        Sulzberg said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:24pm | ! Report

        there won’t be a 17 pts head start like the last game that’s for sure

      • October 17th 2017 @ 5:55pm
        double agent said | October 17th 2017 @ 5:55pm | ! Report

        Who says they’re confident?

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