The three biggest winners of the AFL trade period

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    31 trades, three free agents, 450 cups of coffee and 37 AFL House live crosses – the AFL trade period is over.

    Although all of these figures may not be accurate, it turns out that most rumoured trades surprisingly eventuated in what initially looked to be a relatively quiet year.

    According to the AFL website, 21 trades were made on the final day of talks, which is probably some sort of record.

    While some clubs floundered (hint: they are both from Queensland), thinking of the positive outcomes for a team is always more interesting, so here are the winners of the 2017 trade period.

    Essendon

    Ins: Jake Stringer, Devon Smith, Adam Saad, GWS’ 2018 second-round pick.
    Outs: Pick 11, pick 30, Essendon’s 2018 second-round pick, Essendon’s 2018 third-round pick.

    I must admit, that as an Essendon fan, I was petrified with the “aggressive” approach to trading that CEO Xavier Campbell touted before the trade period. Even more so considering Adrian Dodoro was at the helm, who is very good at not doing very much.

    However, despite the initial uncertainty, the Bombers managed to land a crop of proven talent for picks in a draft of low expectations. And they still have a decent pick in this draft!

    Forced onto the outer by the strength of the GWS midfield, Devon Smith still averaged 19 touches a game in 2017 as a forward with a midseason injury forcing him to start his year all over again in Round 15.

    Although inaccurate in front of goal, Smith is still a potent force in the attacking half of the ground with a rare combination of fiery annoyance and tamed skill with the ability to ease into a midfield role.

    Adam Saad is also a very explosive player from defence and has the talent of actually making a Gold Coast game interesting, ranking first in the league in total bounces.

    Pairing him with Irishman Conor McKenna ensures there will be at least one exhilarating run from defence each game, exploiting some of the low pressuring teams in the competition.

    Plus, Andrew McGrath can now move into the midfield and continue his development.

    Finally, Jake ‘The Package’ Stringer pairs up with Orazio Fantasia to form some sort of BT love child inside 50.

    Seemingly not reaching the heights of his 2015 All-Australian season for some time, Stringer is still a 23-year old potent force up forward, recording 1.5 goals per game with elite score involvement numbers.

    Within a good situation at Essendon and an improved fitness level over summer as touted by coach John Worsfold, Stringer could easily return to his best.

    Adrian Dodoro Essendon Bombers AFL

    (Photo by Michael Dodge/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Carlton and SOS

    Ins: Matthew Kennedy, Darcy Lang, Matthew Lobbe, pick 10, pick 30, pick 73, Bulldogs’ 2018 second-round pick, Adelaide’s 2018 second-round pick, Geelong’s 2018 second-round pick.

    Outs: Bryce Gibbs, pick 40, pick 58, pick 95, Carlton’s 2018 second-round pick, Carlton’s 2018 third-round pick, Carlton’s 2018 fourth-round pick.

    Stephen Silvagni is the Sam Hinke of the AFL. Although lacking a star recruit, the accumulation of essential midfield youth continues at Carlton.

    While the Bryce Gibbs deal still has value for Adelaide in their premiership window, Carlton are nowhere near that stage of competitiveness and giving up a stalwart like Gibbs-although hard in the short term is a no-brainer.

    At the age of 29, Gibbs was not going to be around by the time Carlton were playing finals again, and so holding out for two first-round picks for the versatile midfielder was a masterstroke by the list management team.

    Turning pick 96 into ruckman Matthew Lobbe is another dirt cheap pick up for the Blues. The 92-game ruckman can provide cover for Matthew Kreuzer, and although the Lobbe’s salary of $500,000 is a burden on Carlton, his contract will be gone by the end of 2019.

    Much like the “No Interest, No Repayments until 2019” Harvey Norman ads, this seems a long time away, but realistically it’s not.

    The Darcy Lang deal is another steal for the Blues, picking up a former first round pick for essentially pick 58. While hidden amongst the midfield talent of Geelong, more on-ball opportunities at Carlton could turn Lang into a very decent player.

    There most certainly have been flashes of potential, including a 24-disposal, six-tackle game against the Swans in a semi-final at the MCG.

    Youngster Matthew Kennedy also joined for pick 28 in this year’s weak draft in yet another fleecing.

    After years of losing the trade period… Carlton actually won.

    Bryce Gibbs Adelaide Crows AFL

    (Photo by Scott Barbour/Getty Images)

    Port Adelaide

    Ins: Tom Rockliff, Steven Motlop, Jack Watts, pick 46, pick 59, pick 62, pick 63, pick 95, St Kilda’s 2018 second-round pick, North Melbourne’s 2018 third-round pick.

    Outs: Jackson Trengove, Jarman Impey, Brendon Ah Chee, Aaron Young, Logan Austin, Matthew Lobbe, pick 31, Port Adelaide’s 2018 fourth-round pick.

    The Power were out of the blocks quickly, snapping up Tom Rockliff last week as a free agent for a reported wage of $650,000 a season, adding unbelievably high clearance numbers to an already powerful midfield without any direct asset loss.

    While losing Jarman Impey to Hawthorn is disappointing, Steven Motlop is an amazing replacement and overall better player to add some much needed polish to the territorial Port Adelaide game, despite his inconsistencies.

    Speaking of polish, Jack Watts kicking into the forward 50 is ranked 2nd in the competition over the last two seasons, per The Drill Podcast. Such elite talent away from his tortured existence at the Demons for only pick 31 is an absolute steal and addresses Port’s inefficiencies of last season, in which they were ranked 3rd in clangers per game.

    Given the investments made in free agent signings, departures were inevitable for Port Adelaide to allow for cap space. While the Lobbe trade seemed a steal for Carlton, it is ultimately a win-win for both sides as Port are relieved of his contract and can use the salary cap more effectively.

    Losing both Jackson Trengove and young back Logan Austin hurts their depth and puts more pressure on the likes of Tom Clurey and Dougal Howard. Although it must be said that the club certainly believes in their young defence judging by the youthful backline Ken Hinkley selected for their 2017 elimination final against a strong West Coast forward structure.

    Both Aaron Young and Brendon Ah Chee showed flashes, however with the lack of game time now available at Port, a fresh start was in the best interests of both players and the club (which sounds a lot like a media release now I read it back…).

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    • October 20th 2017 @ 8:00am
      CME said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:00am | ! Report

      Freo instead of Essendon. Pulled off two heists. Stringer is good on paper but if the stories are true, not worth the baggage.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 9:28am
        Lachie Abbott said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:28am | ! Report

        Yeah I was tempted to put them in, however I didn’t really watch enough of Freo last year to write on whether guys like Lachie Weller were worthy of the price Gold Coast paid for him (although I suspect he isn’t). Plus I don’t think anyone thought Essendon could land all three targets and still have a decent pick in this draft.

        • Roar Guru

          October 20th 2017 @ 9:41am
          Cat said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:41am | ! Report

          Too many people overlooking EFC’s midfield. Lost Watson and Kelly in what wasn’t a deep midfield to being with and replaced them with ???

          • Roar Guru

            October 20th 2017 @ 10:09am
            JamesH said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:09am | ! Report

            Kelly played in the backline and Watson was a shadow of his former self. Picking up Smith, further development from Parish, McGrath and Merrett and presumably a more consistent year from Heppell will comfortably improve the engine room.

            There’s also some potential elsewhere on the list. Stringer, Begley and Francis could be anything if they get their bodies and attitudes right. Kobe Mutch and Dylan Clarke are good sized young ball-winners who came close to debuting last year and will probably play at some point this year.

            Obviously not all of that will go to plan but only some of it has to. Unlike some louder fans I don’t think we’re any chance to win the flag next year. In the 2-3 years following there could easily be something to get excited about though.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 10:16am
            Lachie Abbott said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:16am | ! Report

            Yes I completely agree. The midfield does need heaps of work but hopefully McGrath or Smith could run through there and help out. Kelly did play mostly down back but the Bombers do desperately need big bodies like his in there. Heppell is really the only big guy and to really challenge they need these ball winners more than anyone else.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 1:25pm
            Harsh Truth Harry said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:25pm | ! Report

            Cat did you actually watch any of our games? Kelly played backline and Jobe only got the year through acknowledgement of what he did for us in crisis.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 6:39pm
              truetigerfan said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:39pm | ! Report

              You opinion is rejected, Harry/Peter.

        • October 20th 2017 @ 11:27am
          Johnno said | October 20th 2017 @ 11:27am | ! Report

          A bit contradictory there Lachie….Pick 2 is out of this world for any of all the players that were traded, whether you new them or not.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 11:50am
            Lachie Abbott said | October 20th 2017 @ 11:50am | ! Report

            Well I didn’t want to write on something I didn’t know. I reckon that’s a decent principle to live by.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 1:09pm
              Johnno said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:09pm | ! Report

              Yeah…understand that. It’s a common occurrence that people don’t know much about the great west of this country.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 9:34pm
                Lachie Abbott said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:34pm | ! Report

                And for this Victorian/Eastern Coast bias I do apologise. Will try to pay more attention out West in future.

        • October 20th 2017 @ 12:15pm
          Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

          Isn’t that all the more reason to put them in?

          • October 20th 2017 @ 1:59pm
            guttsy said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:59pm | ! Report

            It was only good for Freo because they managed to turn a very bad situation into something positive. It must be sobering for all to think how close they came to disaster.

            Having said it was positive, its also worth noting that I think Freo should take the two proven players (Weller and Crozier) if they were committed to the club over the pick 2 lottery any day of the week. But given that the players wanted to go to another club, pick 2 was a good deal for Fremantle.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 3:27pm
              Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 3:27pm | ! Report

              Disaster? Losing Hayden Crozier is a disaster? How?

              Losing Balic was sad…but hardly a disater.

              If the Weller thing didn’t happen, he’d be with the Dockers. That’s a win either way. They still got Wilson and Matera. There was never anything but positives for Freo

              • October 20th 2017 @ 4:39pm
                Jon boy said | October 20th 2017 @ 4:39pm | ! Report

                Don Freo- your amazing changed your tune again. “there was never anything but positives for Freo” You ranked Matera pick number 88 and said ” We do not really want him he will be at Peel “……he was picked up for Freo’s round three next year. …Go on waffle your way out of it !..

              • October 20th 2017 @ 5:24pm
                Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 5:24pm | ! Report

                “Freo doesn’t need Matera” not “Freo doesn’t want Matera.” He will play at Peel a lot if he plays like he did at Gold Coast.

                Matera does not make this an amazing success. Without Matera, Freo did amazingly well.

                The playing list team and the coaching team continue to pull the right reins. Welcome aboard at last.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 6:08pm
                Jon boy said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:08pm | ! Report

                More Waffle,The Fact is Freo lost 3 talented proven AFL level young players entering there Prime.In return Picks 2-40 and 66 which guarantees you nothing just read guttsy and others take on it….You might jag 1 good one even then it takes time. Groom,Simpson and Apeness are just a couple of Freo’s first rounders that have been Duds. I can not agree with you saying ‘Freo has done amazingly well’

              • October 20th 2017 @ 6:37pm
                Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:37pm | ! Report

                Groom? How far do you want to go back. None of the Freo administration was there when he was involved.

                Apeness is no dud.

                No club admin could anticipate Josh Simpson’s actions.

                Who do you think is the target of your criticism here? The club you just praised or the same club you just criticised?

                You’ve forgotten what you are arguing and, as a consequence, while everyone is praising Freo and looking at its future, you are complaining about a 1998 recruit.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 7:50pm
                Jon boy said | October 20th 2017 @ 7:50pm | ! Report

                DON FREO- ”’ While everyone is praising Freo”…. Laughable.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 9:32pm
                Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:32pm | ! Report

                Read this thread…and the article. Even you did it 3 posts ago.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 5:03pm
              Jon boy said | October 20th 2017 @ 5:03pm | ! Report

              That is a good call guttsy refreshing to read something sensible from a Freo supporter than waffle and made up stuff,well done.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 6:53pm
                Docker@Aveley said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:53pm | ! Report

                Question Jon Boy. When was Hayden Crozier talented or proven?

              • October 20th 2017 @ 7:21pm
                Jon boy said | October 20th 2017 @ 7:21pm | ! Report

                try the amount of games he played. If you had watched his last 5 games in 2016 i think anyone but you and Don would no what Talent is Western Bulldogs obviously did that is why they drafted him Quote to replace Bob Murphy.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 8:24pm
                rusty said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:24pm | ! Report

                As a Freo fan I feel we lost out badly on the Crozier deal. Pick 40 for a bloke in our best 22 is unders. He is at that stage of his career where he could go either way but at 23 years old Freo should have persisted for a couple more years or got a better pick. We put years of work into Crozier and threw it away too cheaply. Will be a good player at the dogs.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 9:33pm
                Don Freo said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:33pm | ! Report

                He wasn’t best 22. He played in the 22 because 10 best 22 were out injured.

              • October 21st 2017 @ 10:46am
                jonboy said | October 21st 2017 @ 10:46am | ! Report

                DonFreo…10 of the best 22 out ?….that is a complete exaggeration 5 at the most. Excuses again.

              • October 21st 2017 @ 10:51am
                jonboy said | October 21st 2017 @ 10:51am | ! Report

                Rusty…..great call on Crozier well done…Very true

        • October 20th 2017 @ 3:44pm
          Charlie said | October 20th 2017 @ 3:44pm | ! Report

          Where is this decent pick you keep talking about? As far as I can see, the Bombers’ first pick is No. 48

      • Roar Guru

        October 20th 2017 @ 9:50am
        JamesH said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:50am | ! Report

        Essendon is seriously the first name you would take out of this list?!?

        Stringer is absolutely worth the punt for two second round picks. High potential reward for a fairly low risk.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 8:21pm
        terrence said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:21pm | ! Report

        The biggest winners of the trade period was sports that don’t have a trade period.

        Watching humans traded (more like primatively bartered) like old cows and pigs for potentially younger calves or piglets shows how insular the sport is.

        Move to a free market where the actual human can decide their future.

        Weird that humans get excited about other humans being bartered for other humans. Sad actually.

        • Roar Guru

          October 20th 2017 @ 8:36pm
          Cat said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:36pm | ! Report

          Players do decide. They decide whether they want to pursue a professional sports career with full knowledge of the work practices. AFL Players especially only go exactly where they want to go, they have absolute power.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 9:00pm
            terrence said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:00pm | ! Report

            That’s a weird assumption Cat.

            Do all young piglets have the absolute power in the draft (saleyard) to decide where they want to play or live?

            If the owners of the old calves and pigs can’t barter a good enough deal for other cattle or picks for younger cattle at the saleyard (draft) later on will they let those old piggies/cows go?

            Move to a more transparent market where the actual human decides where they play or live.

            • Roar Guru

              October 21st 2017 @ 1:12pm
              Dalgety Carrington said | October 21st 2017 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

              Most “actual humans” have quite limited choices on where they play or live, especially if they’re balancing that out against a certain standard of living. There’s always contrasting consequences to the choices we make and all to often that means making sacrifices to get something worthwhile.

              As an actual human, they can decide that they live where they are or to move somewhere else. As an actual AFL player they are sacrificing some choice initially on where they play, so they can achieve the goals and ambitions.

              • October 22nd 2017 @ 10:40pm
                terrence said | October 22nd 2017 @ 10:40pm | ! Report

                But they’d be more in control if they could negotiate directly with the club of their choice, not have to go via their current employer or via the saleyard (draft) where they have no choice.

                That’s how most sportspeople negotiate contracts.

    • October 20th 2017 @ 8:05am
      Zed16 said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:05am | ! Report

      Bryce Gibbs a true professional and often maligned by some i feel that he always did his best for the Blues.

      Even in leaving he enabled the blues to acquire two young and promising midfielders, picks 10 and 30 plus a second round pick in 2018.

      Thanks Gibbsy for your commitment and perseverance and best of luck at the Crows.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 10:37am
        AD said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:37am | ! Report

        Seems like a good deal for all involved. Crows get a player still at his peak while they’re in the window and don’t have the time to develop draftees. Gibbs gets to go home and hopefully have some success after spending his career at a club that has been in rebuild mode for just about all of it, and Carlton get some picks to bring in players that will still be there when they move into the window themselves.

    • October 20th 2017 @ 8:08am
      Jack said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:08am | ! Report

      So we now have two 2 nd round picks next year. Should be two great years of drafting.
      4 years of strong drafts and we should have quiet a young list.

      Might struggle on field next year

    • October 20th 2017 @ 8:27am
      Harsh Truth Harry said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:27am | ! Report

      The Bombers will show you all that despite the persecution of our club without evidence by an AFL witch hunt, we exist to win flags. While we’ve been away only Hawthorn have done anything and Clarkson ripped that club apart with the O’Meara, Mitchell, Lewis fiasco. As for Geelong you got a couple but only after a disgraceful 43 year wait. Richmond nearly as bad. Then look at Carlton as the only other club with 16 flags. They collect wooden spoons these days and during the next three years, the mighty bombers will stand alone as the only club with 17+ flags. So while you all enjoyed feasting on our “carcass”, we simply reset and start winning flags again. Be afraid of the bombers you lot, be very afraid.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 9:28am
        I ate pies said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:28am | ! Report

        Annnnnddd here comes the October premiers! I predicted this yesterday on a different thread; it will be totally unbearable by round 1.
        Essendon still have a crap midfield and a mediocre list. Let’s see how they go with a more difficult draw. They were found out by decent sides this year, and they’ll be found out by decent sides next year.

        • Roar Guru

          October 20th 2017 @ 9:57am
          JamesH said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:57am | ! Report

          You can’t judge Essendon fans based on HT Harry. Every club has ’em.

          BTW, Essendon beat Geelong, Port and WC this year, as well as pushing GWS, Sydney and Richmond all the way. Adelaide and Sydney (in the final) were the only top 8 teams who had convincing wins against us. The bigger problem was the inconsistency against sides we should have beaten, like Brisbane and Carlton.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 10:17am
            truetigerfan said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:17am | ! Report

            With all due respect, James. Essendon hardly pushed the Tiges all the way! Game should have been over at half time. The ball spent almost the entire second half in Richmond’s forward 50. Our poor finishing flattered the Bombers. At the time, and still upon reflection, thought Essendon’s performance was absolutely woeful! Good luck to ya’ though!

            • October 20th 2017 @ 1:30pm
              Harsh Truth Harry said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:30pm | ! Report

              Oh Tiger, you’ve had your one year of success and get ready to disappear again. You’ll make finals next year but won’t seriously challenge. You basically had no injuries, a dream draw, were protected by the AFL with the MRP finals disgrace and were granted three home finals. Even the cats would’ve beaten you if it was at their biased home ground.

              • October 20th 2017 @ 3:50pm
                truetigerfan said | October 20th 2017 @ 3:50pm | ! Report

                So if Essendon don’t ‘deserve’ a home GF you’re happy to play the Crows in Adelaide, yeah?

              • October 20th 2017 @ 7:57pm
                truetigerfan said | October 20th 2017 @ 7:57pm | ! Report

                Harry, I know Peter is in there somewhere.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 11:40am
            I ate pies said | October 20th 2017 @ 11:40am | ! Report

            Port and West Coast? Hahahaha.

        • October 21st 2017 @ 1:18pm
          Zed16 said | October 21st 2017 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

          I ate pies agreed and not only were they beaten by decent sides they lost to both Brisbane and Carlton.

          BTW i like the October premiers comment.

      • Roar Guru

        October 20th 2017 @ 10:44am
        Pumping Dougie said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:44am | ! Report

        Haha HTH, you’re opening line shows you can’t handle the truth!

      • October 20th 2017 @ 10:50am
        schaefer said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:50am | ! Report

        Here’s a harsh truth Harry. Nobody outside of Victoria gives a rats toss bag about your 15 flags in the VFL. It’s the AFL now mate and your club has one flag in that. Making it one of most unsuccessful sides in the competition. And neither drugs nor money will help you to become a force anytime soon!

        • Roar Guru

          October 20th 2017 @ 12:59pm
          Paul D said | October 20th 2017 @ 12:59pm | ! Report

          Agreed on the flags, any flag won before 1990 isn’t worth spit in the AFL era.

          • Roar Guru

            October 20th 2017 @ 3:03pm
            Pumping Dougie said | October 20th 2017 @ 3:03pm | ! Report

            And the 1995 (Carlton, salary cap cheating) and 2006 (West Coast, drugs) flags are tainted.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 11:06pm
              Rick said | October 20th 2017 @ 11:06pm | ! Report

              and the home ground advantage flags given to Melbourne clubs that didn’t finish higher than their interstate opponents.

        • October 20th 2017 @ 1:31pm
          Harsh Truth Harry said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

          That’s a nonsensical argument as the official policy is VFL and AFL are recognised for premierships and Brownlow medals. You lot are lucky to be involved in our great Victorian competition.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 1:53pm
            Johnno said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:53pm | ! Report

            Policy are words only……they don’t mean anything compared to credibility, and you only get that with the full AFL.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 2:12pm
            Geoff Schaefer said | October 20th 2017 @ 2:12pm | ! Report

            Yeh, official policy made in Melbourne. It’s funny how now that it’s a national competition the actual Victorian teams struggle to make the eight. You’ve got 10 out of the 18, but only three could make the finals. Pissant VFL trophies are only a discussion point in nursing homes.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 3:03pm
              Pope Paul VII said | October 20th 2017 @ 3:03pm | ! Report

              The Dons have 2 AFL era flags.

              I think you overestimate the solidarity of the former VFL clubs. There isn’t any. They generally hated each other most of the time and the fans still do mostly.

              The AFL is a business however, born out of VFL history (which is lucky for the survival of the Melbourne teams) so they are not going to delete it to satisfy the jealousy of johnnycomelatelys.

              You should check out some of those pissant VFL battles on the newfangled interweb. Premierships are hard to nab in any era.

          • October 20th 2017 @ 2:46pm
            I ate pies said | October 20th 2017 @ 2:46pm | ! Report

            Of course you’re right Harry. These ring-ins are lucky to even get a gurnsey in our competition.

            • October 20th 2017 @ 5:19pm
              Geoff Schaefer said | October 20th 2017 @ 5:19pm | ! Report

              It WAS your competition I ate pies, but it’s now all Australians. No longer can those with the deepest pockets buy premierships. You should be thrilled that we now have a better, more even competition. Unless you follow one of the former VFL powerhouse clubs that are no longer able to cut the mustard…

            • October 20th 2017 @ 6:50pm
              Basil said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:50pm | ! Report

              The ring-ins saved your competition from bankruptcy.

        • November 23rd 2017 @ 12:24pm
          Tommygun said | November 23rd 2017 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

          This the feeling outside of Victoria and Port Adelaide, who claim twice that if Essendon. And nobody cares about the official position of the AFL, that’s why it’s still call the VFL outside of Victoria. And while we’re at it, there is no such thing as interstate clubs of course, unless you’re in Victoria in a Victorian run competition.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 12:28pm
        Slane said | October 20th 2017 @ 12:28pm | ! Report

        I’m on the same drugs as HTH. I picked the Dons for premiers last week if they got their 3 trades done. Essendon has that many gun youngsters and arguably the best tall brigade in the comp.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 2:19pm
        me too said | October 20th 2017 @ 2:19pm | ! Report

        Irrelevant club in the modern AFL era. Only hated due to the fact they’ve cheated twice in the recent past – salary cap and of course the worst cover up and denial of the use of peds in australian history for any professional sporting club.
        Terribly arrogant club without the results on the board to back it up – shame on them.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 8:26pm
        rusty said | October 20th 2017 @ 8:26pm | ! Report

        LOL. Terrified.

    • October 20th 2017 @ 9:58am
      truetigerfan said | October 20th 2017 @ 9:58am | ! Report

      Gotta disagree with you about Essendon, Lachie. Lost more than you’ve gained, IMO. Stringer? A genuine concern. Say no more.Smith? Good player but doesn’t offer the grunt you need. Saad? Great to watch but prone to panic and awful disposal. Can’t see the Bombers challenging beyond the lower reaches of the 8. If teams behind them this year improve just a little bit that may even be swallowed up. Highly likely I’d say!

      • October 20th 2017 @ 6:55pm
        Basil said | October 20th 2017 @ 6:55pm | ! Report

        I actually agree with Tiger on this one. Stringer is a massive risk. Lots and lots of baggage yet for some reason treated like a hero.

      • October 21st 2017 @ 5:09pm
        Stephen said | October 21st 2017 @ 5:09pm | ! Report

        truetigerfan,

        As a lover of the game, I try to simply call them as I see them. So I feel the need to pull you up on your comment – Essendon have lost more than they’ve gained. Essentially, they’ve lost pick 11 in this year’s draft and a third round pick in next year’s draft. And gained – Devon Smith, Adam Saad and Jake Stringer. After years of defensive list management as a result of the clubs self-imposed supplements saga, I would argue it’s been a highly productive trade period for the club.

    • October 20th 2017 @ 10:14am
      Macca said | October 20th 2017 @ 10:14am | ! Report

      “After years of losing the trade period… Carlton actually won.” I would say the blues haven’t lost a trade period since SOS arrived.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 11:52am
        Lachie Abbott said | October 20th 2017 @ 11:52am | ! Report

        Yeah that is probably fair enough Macca. I was just thinking of the stereotypical Carlton mismanagement when I wrote that 🙂

      • October 20th 2017 @ 1:06pm
        Rex said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

        Blues have way overpaid on a complete dud in Lobbe – $500k, you have to be kidding me! (wont play seniors, he’s hopeless)
        There is no depth and now very little experience in the middle.
        The crows have acquired blues 2nd rounder in next years draft (gold) which will most likely be around the 18-22 mark.
        Crows gave up two first rounders in whats widely regarded as being a “weak” draft for Gibbs to strengthen an already strong midfield while gaining a first from brisbane for CC (overs) and x a first rounder this year and more importantly next year for Lever. (overs)

        AFC have come out of this trade period absolute winners!

        • October 20th 2017 @ 1:28pm
          Macca said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:28pm | ! Report

          Rex – are the blues paying 100% of his salary?

          And every team has to pay 90% of their salary cap – the blues have a massive amount of space, if anything paying big money to him probably helps the list management.

          Agree he won’t play much seniors though.

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            October 20th 2017 @ 1:36pm
            Cat said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

            95% is the salary cap floor

            • October 20th 2017 @ 1:45pm
              Macca said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:45pm | ! Report

              Even more salary we have to find, Lobbe really helps.

            • Roar Guru

              October 21st 2017 @ 1:12pm
              Dalgety Carrington said | October 21st 2017 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

              Across 3 years.

        • October 21st 2017 @ 9:30am
          Zed16 said | October 21st 2017 @ 9:30am | ! Report

          Rex the draft is classed as weak due to its depth and this usually means that after the top 30-40 picks the talent drops off.

          Having 2 picks in top 10 is still high value and the talent in the top 20 is as good as most years.

          You should think about your “weak” comment a little deeper to help you come to a balanced understanding.

        • October 22nd 2017 @ 12:14am
          Mic said | October 22nd 2017 @ 12:14am | ! Report

          Two weeks ago Rex was telling everybody that AFC don’t want or need Gibbs and would never pay the rediculous price that Carlton was asking. Banging on about his topknot, and how overrated he is.
          Now that he’s been proven wrong on every count, he comes back on line and starts preaching how Gibbs will strengthen the crows midfield, and now the crows are a lock for the flag.
          Give us a tip for the Melbourne Cup Rex. You’ve been so accurate with all your other predictions.
          Here’s a tip Rex, try thinking before you speak.

        • November 23rd 2017 @ 12:36pm
          Tommygun said | November 23rd 2017 @ 12:36pm | ! Report

          I think Carlton and SOS had a big and successful trade, and Lobb may prove to be a great recruitment as he can ruck, but there is some merit in the argument of putting Adelaide into the mix for top 3 trade winners. Losing Lever but getting 2 first rounders is a win overall (IMO), getting Gibbs was a breakeven for two reasons, 1. The immediate need was great, and premiership favouritism is deserved as a result, and 2. Getting next year’s second round from Carlton is possibly equal to a late first round this year. Poor hapless carlton, losing Docherty after trading Gibbs is devastating, but crows may end up with pick 19-20 next year as a result.
          I think Adelaide come in fourth above Fremantle; getting pick 39 for Wigg was brilliant, and picking up Gibson we will wait on, but he should be a strong acquisition.

      • October 20th 2017 @ 1:33pm
        Harsh Truth Harry said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

        Yeah Macca enjoy these successful trade periods. Perhaps one decade soon you can actually win a few games and get off the bottom 4?

        • October 20th 2017 @ 1:45pm
          Macca said | October 20th 2017 @ 1:45pm | ! Report

          If we can get the bombers twice this year it might help,

        • October 21st 2017 @ 2:33pm
          Steve009 said | October 21st 2017 @ 2:33pm | ! Report

          Love hearing from essendon supporters how poor Carlton have been over the years. When was the last time Essendon won a final and how many of their finals losses were Essendon uncompetive?

          The Carlton Judd team wasn’t good enough to make the next step but they did win two finals games since essendon last won one. One against Richmond and another against an uncompetive Essendon team.

          Carlton and Essendon used to play for premierships, now Carlton’s rebuilding and Essendon recent history shows a team that sneaks in to the 8, but doesn’t belong there.

          On the bright side for Essendon, I could have had the same argument with a tigers supporter 12 months ago

      • October 21st 2017 @ 4:52pm
        Stephen said | October 21st 2017 @ 4:52pm | ! Report

        Have to agree Macca. I didn’t follow Silvagni closely during his time as the GWS List Manager. But his 3 years at Carlton have been well managed. The old ‘cheque-book’ days are long gone. And rebuilding can take years. But Carlton, like all the successful clubs, have been strategic and ruthless. After losing 6 games in 2017 by under 12 points – I fear the old Blues are finals bound in 2018. Not that I enjoy admitting it!

        • Roar Guru

          October 21st 2017 @ 6:03pm
          Cat said | October 21st 2017 @ 6:03pm | ! Report

          SoS is going fine, but it is about time for Carlton to stop ‘winning’ trade periods and start winning footy games.

          • October 21st 2017 @ 8:14pm
            Andrew said | October 21st 2017 @ 8:14pm | ! Report

            Still early days tho. The player turnovers over the last 3-4 years have been very high. Need to settle on close to the same 20 odd players for next season and then the climb will happen. I’d expect once the midfield settles in 2018, wins will come.

          • Roar Guru

            October 21st 2017 @ 8:52pm
            Col from Brissie said | October 21st 2017 @ 8:52pm | ! Report

            Cat, wins would be nice but the aim of the club is to build a side for sustainable success. Look at our list of players 24 and under. They are all going to grow together over the next couple of years. I will take another year of pain if it means 10 years up the top end of the ladder. As a Geelong fan you know what that is like.

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