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    The Wallabies kicked off their spring tour in style with a 63-30 win over Japan in Yokohama on Saturday.

    So, what did we learn?

    1. Hodge steps up again
    Everything that Michael Cheika asks of Reece Hodge, he does. And with a minimum of fuss. He took over at five-eighth in the absence of Bernard Foley and performed admirably.

    Hodge showed deft hands to assist the second try, sending Henry Speight through untouched from Australia’s pet play ‒ inside ball to the blind winger from a lineout. He also kicked a flawless nine from nine conversions.

    It wasn’t all perfect. There were some wobbly passes and a tendency to get caught in the ruck from restarts when he’d be more use kicking clear. The caveat is that this was only Japan, but it’s to Hodge’s credit that it always felt like this was ‘only Japan’.

    2. One hardworking international hooker, **FREE** to good home
    Not content to be a stopgap between Stephen Moore and the next generation, Tatafu Polota-Nau means business. Against Japan, Polota-Nau was involved in everything. He made 13 carries (his most in Wallaby gold) and picked up a try off the back of a rolling maul.

    Yet, despite being the standout hooker in Australia at the moment, he finds himself without a club for 2018. By backing the Western Force to survive, Taf didn’t get around to making other plans. This all comes after his proposed move to Bristol in 2016 fell through due to injury.

    He surely won’t be without a team for long, even if the offer comes from Europe or Japan. If that’s the case, the Australian conference will be losing one of its most devoted servants. Aside from anything else, the man’s just an absolute joy.

    3. Special Ks take centre stage
    There was never going to be a great deal of subtlety from a centre pairing of Samu Kerevi and Tevita Kuridrani. The 100+kg Fijian duo are both designated crash ball carriers and therefore not a natural combination.

    Yet what they lacked in playmaking ability, they more than made up for in raw power. Kuridrani picked up a hattrick of tries, while Kerevi chewed off 168 metres, including ten tackle busts and two tries of his own.

    One of those tries was the clear highlight of the match. Speight recovered well from a loose Hodge pass to break the line and find Kurtley Beale in support. Beale popped the ball to a rampaging Kerevi who held off the cover defence, leapt over the line and slammed the ball down as if dunking a basketball. Brilliant to watch.

    Samu Kerevi

    (Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

    4. Still plenty to work on for Cheika
    It’s something of an anomaly that the Wallabies managed to score nine tries with just 33 per cent territory. It speaks to the their ability to score clinical tries from distance, but it’s also an indictment of their patience and game management at times.

    Conceding 30 points is a concern in games such as these. They started well, but mistakes crept in as the game wore on. Australia missed 31 tackles and conceded a whopping 17 penalties, several due to errors at the breakdown.

    Better sides will punish such sloppiness, of course. For now the Wallabies can savour another win and ready themselves to lift again in the UK.

    5. Bring on 2019!
    If Saturday was anything to go by, the 2019 World Cup looks in safe hands. Nissan Stadium in Yokohama was heaving with fans who cheered throughout, despite the result.

    Japan is a cultural outlier in the rugby world, but the people are embracing the sport wholeheartedly. As I mentioned in the match preview, the Brave Blossoms can’t dine out on their win over South Africa forever.

    The national team must continue its development to remain relevant. But there’s certainly an unprecedented level of interest in the game on Japanese shores.

    Japan is one of the world’s most compelling tourist destinations. From a rugby perspective, it has the requisite infrastructure and enthusiasm to stage one of the all-time great events. If the home side can progress from the group stage, you’re going to want to be among it. Be sure to keep some annual leave handy.

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    • November 5th 2017 @ 2:27am
      Rhys Bosley said | November 5th 2017 @ 2:27am | ! Report

      I reckon Japan will be rocking come World Cup time and it isn’t really that far from Oz. I’m going to try to get up there for the Australia/Wales pool game.

      • Roar Guru

        November 5th 2017 @ 7:08am
        eagleJack said | November 5th 2017 @ 7:08am | ! Report

        Absolutely, I can’t wait for the tournament.

        Although I’ve heard whispers that beer ran out in the first 10mins of yesteday’s game! Fix that please Yokohama.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 7:12am
          Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 7:12am | ! Report

          That’s baffling ej, as Japan has quite a large drinking culture, and they also have a very big sporting culture. You’d think they’d have been prepared?

        • November 5th 2017 @ 10:50am
          Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:50am | ! Report

          Are you sure they weren’t Chinese whispers? 😉

          (Apologies if that’s racist)

        • November 5th 2017 @ 11:52am
          Dave said | November 5th 2017 @ 11:52am | ! Report

          They did run out of beer where I was sitting. Had to line up for a long wait downstairs to get some cans. Missed the anthems because of this…

          They’ll need to improve this. The problem is, Japanese love a line! Seriously they do. They are taught to line up from a young age at school, so waiting in a queue doesn’t bother them, nor will they complain, so I don’t think they would even have got the message from yesterday.

          • November 5th 2017 @ 1:35pm
            Rhys Bosley said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

            “Missed the anthems because of this”

            So there is an upside.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 1:50pm
              Dave said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:50pm | ! Report

              Considering my mate and I were the only Australians in that stand, my poor rendition would have no doubt caused some embarrassment for all Australian’s, so perhaps you are right

        • November 5th 2017 @ 10:14pm
          Sue Fudge said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:14pm | ! Report

          We we’re at the game. Plenty of beer. We had a girl come down during the game with 2 six packs. When she sold them she came back with 4. It was so heavy for her she had to sit down. Sa her a few times during the games.

    • November 5th 2017 @ 5:58am
      ForceFan said | November 5th 2017 @ 5:58am | ! Report

      Four Aussie franchises haven’t got the room for Australia’s best hooker – what a circus.

      So the IPRC was hoping for feedback from the EARU by Thursday.
      I understand that none was forthcoming.
      Sad to have an EARU Board that is so quick to make the WRONG decisions and so slow to make the RIGHT ones.

      Maybe the IPRC will just establish itself off shore so it can work separate from the EARU and just co-operate with the IRB and Rugby nations in the Indo – Pacific region.
      The PERTH FORCE doesn’t need its IP and licence to represent Australia in the proposed competition.

      • Roar Guru

        November 5th 2017 @ 8:26am
        PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:26am | ! Report

        true but aussie players would want to be wallaby eligible if they play in that comp and not in super rugby and that would be one of the discussion points (or should be)

        • November 5th 2017 @ 4:39pm
          ScottD said | November 5th 2017 @ 4:39pm | ! Report

          True enough but players like TAF are already eligible under the Giteau rule so have no problems playing in the IPRC. It won’t be a problem for the younger guys that aren’t yet in the frame for a WB jumper either ( guys like Verity An or Chance Peni).
          The main issue will be for current and fringe WB. guys.
          The ARU appears to be doing everything in its power to make the IPRC miss 2018 in the hope it runs out of momentum and fails. Classic passive aggressive behaviour.

          • November 6th 2017 @ 6:23pm
            GusTee said | November 6th 2017 @ 6:23pm | ! Report

            I agree – in my book it is simply corporate thug tactics at work.

            Time to move on Mr Clyne – Australian rugby union neither needs nor wants you.

    • November 5th 2017 @ 7:15am
      Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 7:15am | ! Report

      I actually disagree that Kerevi is just a crashballer, he has very soft hands. He threw a couple of nice short passes and one of his offloads to TK in particular was wonderful.

      As for the territory stats I’ve actually kept a close eye on them across the internationals (both hemispheres) and SR and I would say it is now at least as common for the team with less possession and/or territory to win the match. Counterattacking from deep and scoring within 4-5 phases seems to be the most effective way of attacking at the moment.

      Really happy with how the team went, and was a good match to watch.

      • November 5th 2017 @ 8:11am
        soapit said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:11am | ! Report

        that possession things been the case for years. its been an ongoing challenge fo law makers to ensure teams actually want to have the ball in their own hands.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 9:10am
          Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:10am | ! Report

          Yes it tends to make a mockery of rugby’s great selling point – the contest for the ball.

          Ironically, possession is arguably more valuable now in league, where there is virtually no contest for the ball.

          • November 5th 2017 @ 9:18am
            Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:18am | ! Report

            You’re largely right, Dave, but I would also argue the contest for the ball is even more important. Given that most tries seem to be scored within 3-4 phases of a turnover (as the defensive line doesn’t get a chance to get fully set and comfortable) it is now more important than ever to be able to achieve quick turnovers at the breakdown, win opposing line outs or win your own scrum/opposing scrum.

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              November 5th 2017 @ 9:23am
              PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:23am | ! Report

              exactly right it is not possession itself but when possession is obtained and also where.

              Other than attack as you mention turnovers defending near the line are critical to stop tries. With no contest for the ball you would be relying solely on a knock on or dropped pass.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 10:42am
              Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:42am | ! Report

              True dat.

      • Roar Guru

        November 5th 2017 @ 8:32am
        PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:32am | ! Report

        It seems fans love to typecast / pigeon hole players , and it sticks regardless of ongoing improvements / evidence to the contrary.

        QC – Rocks and diamonds despite being very consistent and few errors in a game nowadays
        TPN – Poor lineout throwing despite being as accurate as Moore for at least 4 years now
        Foley – Consistent and reliable , despite actually being very up and down and makes a lot of errors most games
        Kerevi – crash ball, ignores his very good offloads, and that he passes normally 1/3 times, and has great soft hands to put players through gaps
        Hooper – doesn’t hit rucks and swans out wide, he is at rucks often

        • November 5th 2017 @ 8:58am
          Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:58am | ! Report

          Hooper has really worked on his rucking for the Wallabies this year. I have been really impressed by his improvements. I hope he sticks to it next year when Pocock is back as we could really be a force at the breakdown.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 10:11am
          Reverse Wheel said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:11am | ! Report

          And Hanigan, PK? Mumm 2.0?

          • Roar Guru

            November 5th 2017 @ 10:22am
            PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:22am | ! Report

            Hanigan hasn’t shown any evidence whatsoever that he is not anything but Mumm 2.0.

            He is the same style of player, high work rate , good in lineouts but not effective or physical in contact. Mumm of course was better which is expected due to experience, a lot better runner of the ball picking gaps well.

            • Roar Rookie

              November 5th 2017 @ 11:18am
              cinque said | November 5th 2017 @ 11:18am | ! Report

              Then you need to renumber Ned as Mumm 0.5, if not an upgrade.

              • Roar Guru

                November 5th 2017 @ 6:54pm
                PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 6:54pm | ! Report

                heard of windows 8 then, not all upgrades are better

            • November 5th 2017 @ 11:40am
              Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 11:40am | ! Report

              Hanigan is nowhere near as good in the line out as Mumm.

              • November 5th 2017 @ 12:55pm
                Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 12:55pm | ! Report

                To be fair he’s still pretty green. He’s having to do his learning on the highest stage.

                Not saying he’s earned his regular starting spot (at all) but I still see potential for improvement – another year, a bit more confidence and mentoring (ordinary players like Mumm can still be good mentors), and 5 kgs could make a lot of difference.

                Can’t realy say that about Timani and Higgs.

              • November 5th 2017 @ 4:22pm
                ForceFan said | November 5th 2017 @ 4:22pm | ! Report

                can anybody explain to me why it’s only players from the Waratahs who get a chance to learn their trade in the Wallabies with full match payments and top-ups (e.g Skelton and now Hanigan)

                All other players have to prove themselves at Super Rugby level and evn then don’t get a chance – or when they get a chance get dropped as they didn’t “grasp the opportunity”.
                Waratahs players just keep on getting picked seemingly independent of form.

                The unholy link between the EARU and the Waratahs is certainly one reason I’m looking forward to the IPRC.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 4:16pm
              Reverse Wheel said | November 5th 2017 @ 4:16pm | ! Report

              Roar groupthink is a thing for sure. It’s not your fault PK, but you and Fionn lead the way in some respects because you are forthright and confident in your opinions and a lot of people just repeat what you’ve said without thinking for themselves. I raised Hanigan as an example because it was you that started on the Mumm 2.0 and now a whole bunch of parrots criticise him week in and week out regardless of what he does. Some even admit that they are commenting without watching the games. It’s…annoying.

              • November 5th 2017 @ 7:33pm
                Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 7:33pm | ! Report

                For what it’s worth I thought Phipps had a good game after the first 10mins which were disgusting. He can definitely defend better than Powell and offers a much better running game, but his passes are so wild still so often and he throws them so hard. Powell has a really nice, soft pass despite not offering a running threat.

              • November 6th 2017 @ 4:01am
                Ken Catchpole's Other Leg said | November 6th 2017 @ 4:01am | ! Report

                Reverse Wheel, when I think of ‘annoying’ and ‘Groupthink’ posters on the Roar, Fionn and PeterK do not come to mind.
                Their arguments, while I am not always in absolute agreement, are usually logically and respectfully argued.
                Your posts on other other hand I bave found to be abrasive and relatively illogical.
                Your stance on Cooper for example seems to be very ‘Groupthink’.

              • Roar Rookie

                November 6th 2017 @ 1:10pm
                Sage said | November 6th 2017 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

                Or maybe they just happen to have the same opinion as Fionn and PK which they came to all on their own – as frustrating as that may be to you who disagrees. It could be that rather than them being parrots that don’t think for themselves.
                Just a little high handed there RW.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 12:05pm
          Wallace footrot said | November 5th 2017 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

          Maybe they have all been reading the Roar :), or hopefully better…..perhaps Cheika is taking notes? 🙂

        • November 5th 2017 @ 1:32pm
          ForceFan said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:32pm | ! Report

          Hooper is regularly at rucks – there’s no doubt about that..

          However, the fact is that players such as Pocock, Gill and Hodgson were more often at about 50% more rucks.
          They all arrive quicker and have more impact.

          There is a difference……

          • November 5th 2017 @ 9:21pm
            Morsie said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:21pm | ! Report

            And of course Hooper is a Waratah player. Who could ignore that.

          • November 6th 2017 @ 1:50am
            double agent said | November 6th 2017 @ 1:50am | ! Report

            Yeah right…

        • November 6th 2017 @ 2:51am
          Rusty743 said | November 6th 2017 @ 2:51am | ! Report

          I like the al of this post!! Where is the like button on the Roar??

      • November 5th 2017 @ 8:48am
        Harry said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:48am | ! Report

        Good point Fionn, Kerevi is actually quite a good ball player, he looks for the offload, positions himself well and his passing is quite good. I’d love to see him work on that troublesome defence and his kicking skills and he could be a fantastic 12.
        I’d love to see Kuridrani work on two parts of his game … he seldom offloads, and though he invariably makes ground on impact and quite often breaks the first tackle, he does got to ground almost invariably. If he could just keep his feet his already strong threat would increase.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 8:57am
          Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:57am | ! Report

          His defence is more of a problem at 13 than 12. His tackling technique is not very good from what I’ve seen but at 12 more often you have the guy running at you, and he can normally get them down despite his poor technique due to his incredible strength. At 13 they’re able to slip past him more due to his technical issues.

          That said, his defence is a work in progress, but it is nowhere near as bad as people try to make out.

          Agree on TK. I would add that it was incredible to actually see him taking the ball at speed yesterday! For most of the last two years we have seen TK take the ball either from at a standstill or at a slow jog. He is so much better when he is hitting the line at pace and driving defenders backwards. Still the best defender we have.

          • Roar Guru

            November 5th 2017 @ 9:03am
            PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:03am | ! Report

            a lot of that is Beale and Kerevi passing in front of TK so he has to run at the ball.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 9:06am
              Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:06am | ! Report

              Perhaps, but it was an issue at the Brumbies too. I’d rather see him start deeper in the pocket and be at full speed by the time he is ready to catch the ball. He also has better feet than people give him credit for.

              • Roar Guru

                November 5th 2017 @ 9:09am
                PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:09am | ! Report

                the wallabies in general especially the fowards get the ball standing still. Why is it so hard to get them running onto the ball.

                Even Japan does it and it works. Imagine the big forwards hitting the line at pace, it would make a big difference.

        • Roar Guru

          November 5th 2017 @ 9:02am
          PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:02am | ! Report

          Kerevi defended as well at 12 as TK did at 13 against Japan. His defence is fine at 12. Sure keep working on it as all players should.

          Everyone forgets when Kerevi in 2014-2015 when he played at 12 for the Reds he made 86%+ of his tackles, only when he played at 13 did he have issues.

          Against England June 2016 he played at 12 and defended very well.

          • November 5th 2017 @ 10:09am
            Jameswm said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:09am | ! Report

            Kerevi pulled off some big tackles early on.

          • Roar Guru

            November 5th 2017 @ 1:06pm
            Hoy said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

            He’s much better at 12, where he is a natural…

      • November 5th 2017 @ 1:46pm
        Tooly said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:46pm | ! Report

        Kerevi would be on my bench he seems lost on where to defend. Like Kuridrani he can pass to his right side .

    • November 5th 2017 @ 7:52am
      RM said | November 5th 2017 @ 7:52am | ! Report

      Once again Phipps was awful. In the first 20 minutes alone there was a bad knock on, a kick dead from half way and a bombed try when he dropped a pass from Sio with the line wide open. Seriously what do the selectors see in him?

      Hodge was pretty good for his first game in the 10 jersey for Australia. Some great touches and great place-kicking, but also a few ordinary moments with his longer passing and getting caught with the ball a couple of times. Probably a 7 out of 10, bumped up to 7.5 since it was a big ask for him to go from the wing to 5/8 at international level and he acquitted himself well. Let’s be honest though, he could have performed like a combination of Larkham and Lynagh in their prime and Cheika still wouldn’t be convinced to replace his little favourite Foley.

      • Roar Guru

        November 5th 2017 @ 8:39am
        PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:39am | ! Report

        you are being unfair on Phipps

        The kick that went dead was a very good kick and right play with no one back. It just happened to roll end on end , it did land in the corner deep where you would want it.

        Most of his passing was fine, he was quick to most rucks and got out quick ball. He didn’t spray the ball too high or low in this game.

        Hodge was a little bit below Foley’s usual standard as a 10. Threw an intercept, threw passes that hit the deck, didn’t make the running metres or breaks or as good a support play that Foley does, but defended better. Showed he should take over all the kicking that Foley does except clearing kicks with defence on you.
        A 6/10 because thats all Foley gets for the same display and Foley is usually a bit better.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 9:05am
          Fionn said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:05am | ! Report

          So many of Phipps’ passes were above the head or behind. Rarely were they out in front.

          He also has a habit to throw his passes way too hard. They’re like missiles and aren’t very easy to catch at times.

          • Roar Guru

            November 5th 2017 @ 9:07am
            PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 9:07am | ! Report

            agree they weren’t in front, few were above the head, too many behind and yes he always passes hard.

            However he wasn’t awful as characterised.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 10:46am
              Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:46am | ! Report

              And what standard are we holding Phipps to? Genia is rarely perfect – he’s almost always better, but not by a mile.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 12:00pm
              Dave said | November 5th 2017 @ 12:00pm | ! Report

              Agree with all that Peter K.

              That kick Phipps made was definitely on. I was sitting right in that section and there was nobody in sight. It was good vision and I thought it was going to go into touch 5 metres out. It really was a slightly misjudged kick.

              I’m yet to watch the replay, but Phipps definitely grew into the game. His last play was a lovely ball to Simmons for a good try. He also produced some long Flat balls for his runners in what was a bit of a bash and barge style attack from the wallabies.

              He did fine.

              • November 5th 2017 @ 2:48pm
                Dally said | November 5th 2017 @ 2:48pm | ! Report

                Phipps should not be in the side and neither should Hanigan.

      • November 5th 2017 @ 10:13am
        Reverse Wheel said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:13am | ! Report

        Yeah that’s an absolute indictment on the super rugby teams, who all seem prepared to embrace mediocrity rather than do whatever is necessary to be the best they can be.

        • Roar Pro

          November 5th 2017 @ 10:29am
          Matt Davis said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:29am | ! Report

          I disagree for a few of reasons.
          Firstly, as a professional game it is the players and their managers responsibility to organise contracts and what not, and Tafs team hasn’t done that and evidently weren’t as organised as they ought to of been for the potential that the Force were discontinued.
          Secondly, it’s a good sign that the four remaining teams aren’t clamouring for his signature, because it means that young players with contracts already signed, will continue to get weekly opportunities in SR.
          Thirdly, Taf is a phenomenal player, has given everything for club and country, and we know what he’s capabale of. He qualifies to play for the Wallabies without being in Australia, and you’d love to see him finish his days making some good coin and taking it a bit easier on the body somewhere like Japan.

          • November 5th 2017 @ 4:41pm
            Reverse Wheel said | November 5th 2017 @ 4:41pm | ! Report

            Gee you’re talking about some pretty average players being retained instead of the Australian hooker. Roach etc.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 10:49am
          Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:49am | ! Report

          Taf has openly said that it was his mistake, by relying on the Force staying in the comp and not having a plan B.

          I agree it’s an unfortunate by-product of having fewer teams, but we can’t blame the other SR teams for it.

          • November 5th 2017 @ 12:04pm
            Nico'larse said | November 5th 2017 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

            Odds on, he signs a contract in Europe.

        • November 5th 2017 @ 12:08pm
          Jacko said | November 5th 2017 @ 12:08pm | ! Report

          but wasnt the idea of cutting the force to improve the depth of the remaining 4 teams???How is keeping your existing hookers when the Aus hooker is available to sign and already has a ARU garranteed topup, improving the depth of any of the other sides??? They have all said we will keep exactly what we had which wasnt good enough last year

          • November 5th 2017 @ 1:06pm
            Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

            Not arguing with that, Jacko – all of us who argued for 5 teams foresaw this type of outcome a mile off. But it would have helped if Taf had actively sought out a plan B option before now.

            • November 5th 2017 @ 1:35pm
              ForceFan said | November 5th 2017 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

              Many people complain about the lack of loyalty shown by players in the professional era.

              Over the last 5 years how many good Aussie players have been screwed for being too loyal to their club or Australian rugby?

              I could name many – TAF is just one.

              The EARU has been only too happy to pour largesse upon players who showed no loyalty to Australian rugby.
              Even upon those who contributed so much to the detriment of the great game – particularly by their off-field antics.

              • November 5th 2017 @ 8:20pm
                Dave_S said | November 5th 2017 @ 8:20pm | ! Report

                Agree, franchises are rarely loyal to players when it doesn’t suit them.

                I have always wished players well when they chase the good o/s coin. For the same reason, I don’t decry the rise of player managers – most of these players are relative kids compared to the old heads who run the franchises.

                Anyway, I hope Taf lands on his feet, he deserves it more than most.

    • November 5th 2017 @ 10:15am
      Jameswm said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:15am | ! Report

      One other thing stood out for me.

      I thought every player was good and dominated with one exception. I don’t want to pick on the guy cos he’s a terrific kid, but Hanigan was poor. Fell off tackles and clean outs, even against Japan.

      I must be missing something.

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        November 5th 2017 @ 10:27am
        PeterK said | November 5th 2017 @ 10:27am | ! Report

        Hanigan was poor.

        Have to say though I saw Coleman, Simmons, McMahon all fall off cleanouts as well, that is the one area Japan smashed the Wallabies, very similar to how Scotland does in fact.

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