Victory, Roar forced to settle for draw

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    The battle between the two teams needing a victory so desperately has ended in a draw that will please neither of their managers.

    The Melbourne Victory and the Brisbane Roar came to Etihad Stadium to win tonight, after the poor starts to the season there was really no other option for either team.

    Sadly, neither will leave triumphant and both still sit mired on the lower rungs of the table, waiting for their fortunes to change. The first half was lamentable to say the least, as fouling and a stodgy style of play infested the game.

    When under points pressure from a ladder perspective, teams can sometimes submit to conservativism and that was the case for both teams tonight. It was one of those games where the game desperately needed a goal.

    Victory had the better of the first half possession yet did little with it and the half-time stats were less than fascinating.

    The second period started in a similar manner to the first before the drought was finally broken by Besart Berisha in the seventy-ninth minute and the fans went ballistic in Melbourne with the first win of the season appearing well within reach.

    Inexplicably, five minutes later, Brett Holman, a fresh player, found his way into the box to knock home a neat ball from point-blank range and astonishingly the game so desperately needing a goal had two.

    A few mad scrambles took place in the final minutes, however, the scoring was done for the night and both teams will leave with a sense of disappointment.

    A winless Roar and Victory after six rounds is an odd thing for the A-League. Plenty of soul searching to do for both managers, it will be interesting to hear what their take on the game is.

    Personally, it looked like two struggling teams a little scared to attack and frightened to lose.

    Final score
    Melbourne Victory 1
    Brisbane Roar 1

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    • November 12th 2017 @ 10:58am
      Waz said | November 12th 2017 @ 10:58am | ! Report

      “Inexplicably, five minutes later, Brett Holman, a fresh player, found his way into the box” …

      inexplicably? I’d say the move was out of the football text book – overlapping full back, hits the touch line, low hard cross, attackers running towards the ball, goal.


      • November 12th 2017 @ 2:23pm
        Lionheart said | November 12th 2017 @ 2:23pm | ! Report

        inexplicable for some commentators Waz, ‘cos they barely acknowledge Roar was on the park let alone in the game.
        I listened very carefully last night to the Fox crew. What rubbish they serve up. Pre-game Bozz says Roar has been suffering from the effects of what has happened in the background pre-season. In the background? Does he have any idea? As to the call team and sideline eye Tara, words are hard to find to describe such incompetence but let’s just say if they had to be licenced as journalists they would probably not have jobs.
        But when Berisha scored I knew we would too, he’s our inspiration. Always do (well, often do).
        I would like to see more of those young guys who came on late last night too, the very strong looking Victory boy who was heavily involved in the build-up to Berisha’s goal, plus the Roar duo (Sawyer and Akbari), and indeed O’Toole.

        • November 12th 2017 @ 4:24pm
          Waz said | November 12th 2017 @ 4:24pm | ! Report

          Agreed. If you’re from Brisbane the commentators were nothing more than cheerleaders for Victory, I swear they wet their pants with excitement when Victory scored.

          Neither side had much to write home about, clearly there’s some systemic issues in both squads. But yet further proof from Young that Aloisi playing favourites with Theo is akin to playing Russian roulette in a Moscow backstreet vodka bar -it’s bad for your health.

          O’Toole was long overdue a debut but didn’t he take it well, and Pepper proved useful as stand-in CB. Bautheac looks the goods and Skapetis too, but if they can’t figure out how to get Maccarone the ball in the right area they’ll continue to lose/draw.

          And Caletti back in a more advanced position started to look like his normal self.

          Much work to do – but it’s all coaching, the only question is will the Aloisi’s leave their egos at home tomorrow and actually coach a sensible game plan?

          • November 13th 2017 @ 10:26am
            Ian said | November 13th 2017 @ 10:26am | ! Report

            It comes across as not being from Sydney or Melbourne, but I can’t help but think their innate bias permeates through all their commentary calls. It is quite off-putting. I wouldn’t mind some more commentary on Bautheac who I think is playing well. All I heard was about Leroy George and the players MV have missing and their attacking weaponry coming back. How many original first choice players are the Roar missing. Yet this was all about MV hopefully getting their first win when both teams both haven’t won a game yet. Anyway – we got a point away from home.

        • November 13th 2017 @ 7:41am
          Waz said | November 13th 2017 @ 7:41am | ! Report

          Watching the Fox Sport Sunday shootout last night Lionheart, on the plus side O’Toole made Bozza’s team of the week (along with Young) which was good – in many reports you wouldn’t even know a promising young kid had made an impressive debut.

          On the downside they only spent about 30 seconds analysing the game and put Bes’s goal down to individual brilliance (rather than a defensive lapse leaving the leagues top marksman unmarked) and Roars goal was put down to Victory’s many defensive mistakes (rather than the attacking side moving the ball at pace and with purpose).

          It beggars belief what these “experts” are paid to do

          • November 13th 2017 @ 8:44am
            Nemesis said | November 13th 2017 @ 8:44am | ! Report

            So, you’re saying MVFC’s goal was due to defensive lapse by Brisbane, but Brisbane’s goal was due to superb attacking intent?

            And, you think FoxSports are biased in their analysis?

            • November 13th 2017 @ 8:50am
              punter said | November 13th 2017 @ 8:50am | ! Report

              All coaches, players & fans think their goal were great attacking play & goals against were poor defensive mistakes.

              • November 13th 2017 @ 10:32am
                Waz said | November 13th 2017 @ 10:32am | ! Report

                Correct Punter.

                And then of course we look to the “independent” experts to provide that less biased insight and either agree or disagree with them lol.

                The commentary last night was “what a great Bes goal” with no mention of the marker dropping off the most lethal striker in the competition giving him a free shot 7 meters from goal.

                The Roar goal though was dissected to the point where every defender was at fault despite it being a classic training ground move executed with pace and precision. That seemed unfair?

                Now pretty much every goal has a defensive lapse in it somewhere to be honest – but if Fox are to be more than cheerleaders for one team they need a higher level of analysis than what was offered at the weekend imo.

              • November 13th 2017 @ 1:00pm
                Ian said | November 13th 2017 @ 1:00pm | ! Report

                Exactly. Bes’ goal was instinct and a striker’s goal……but somehow Rhys Williams was out of position or whatever for the Roar goal.

            • November 13th 2017 @ 2:45pm
              j,binnie said | November 13th 2017 @ 2:45pm | ! Report

              Nemesis – If you want to be pedantic about the scoring of goals you have to remember that the game of football has two basic units,that of defending (no ball),,and that of attacking,(having the ball)
              If this is accepted then if follows that when a goal is scored, somewhere,somehow,someone, a “defender” has not being doing his job properly, and contrary to that when a goal is scored the attacking team have exploited that error ,using their skills, resulting in a goal.being scored.
              Remember, football is a simple game, only people make it difficult Cheers jb..

              • November 13th 2017 @ 2:54pm
                Nemesis said | November 13th 2017 @ 2:54pm | ! Report

                Not being pedantic at all.

                Just saying both goals in the match included defensive lapses & good attacking intent. To suggest only one goal was due to attacking intent, or defensive lapse, is ridiculous.

              • November 13th 2017 @ 4:31pm
                Waz said | November 13th 2017 @ 4:31pm | ! Report

                “To suggest only one goal was due to attacking intent, or defensive lapse, is ridiculous“
                ….. exactly. Which is what Fox Sports “experts” were trying to make us believe ?

      • November 13th 2017 @ 10:27am
        Ian said | November 13th 2017 @ 10:27am | ! Report

        No team is supposed to score after Victory score Waz.

      • November 13th 2017 @ 12:21pm
        Bob said | November 13th 2017 @ 12:21pm | ! Report

        I liked BRFC’s goal because it was well worked and I liked Vuck’s goal because it was well taken. Both good goals for different reasons.

        • November 13th 2017 @ 12:35pm
          Waz said | November 13th 2017 @ 12:35pm | ! Report

          I can agree with that. Neither goal was “inexplicable” is my point – the author and some others seem to find it strange Brisbane scored against Victory.

    • November 12th 2017 @ 11:33am
      LuckyEddie said | November 12th 2017 @ 11:33am | ! Report

      This game like most now suffered greatly from the malignant cynical foul that is killing off counter attacks and killing odd crowds.

      What’s killing the A-League? Simple the cynical fouls being committed on or around half way to stop counter attacks. It’s a cancer on our game and this is what is being done about it:

      Commentators joke about it “he took one for the team”.

      FFA – they are doing sweet FA as usual. They only worked hard on the dodgy FOX contract to ensure they get overpaid.

      REFS – Hand out yellow cards to the smarties but only reds will fix this debacle

      Coaches – I would think they are all into it but some more than others

      Fans – are doing what sensible people do and refuse to watch the cynical rubbish they robs the game of excitement and they are staying home.

      Something has to be done quickly because there are a lot of options in summer in Australia, unlike Euro winter, and people will walk. We all accept quiet periods in a game but when the exciting periods are halted by cynical fouls, well why bother going.

      I’ll send another complaint to FFA about this but you normally just get a Public Service reply i.e. they could not care less.

      • November 12th 2017 @ 11:48am
        Waz said | November 12th 2017 @ 11:48am | ! Report

        Agree. If you don’t stamp it out it will spread. We’ve had these cynical fouls for two seasons now and it’s now becoming endemic. The answer is to return powers to referees to automatically book “deliberate foul play”

        • November 12th 2017 @ 4:09pm
          LuckyEddie said | November 12th 2017 @ 4:09pm | ! Report

          Waz it’s really sucking the enjoyment and excitement out of the game. The only fix is a red card but FIFA won’t go with that so we have the let’s share a yellow caper. Fans are suffering and people are walking. Problem for us is in Australia people have choices and will walk where as in other parts of the world football is it.

          I am in no doubt if something is not done about this rubbish HAL will be in really big trouble and once a fan walks it is very hard to get them back.

          • November 13th 2017 @ 12:21pm
            Bob said | November 13th 2017 @ 12:21pm | ! Report

            ++++ 11111

    • November 13th 2017 @ 12:19pm
      Bob said | November 13th 2017 @ 12:19pm | ! Report

      Fox Sports always have and always will have a bias towards the Melbourne and Sydney teams because it is their biggest market comprising half of the total population and most likley more than half of their subscribers. I thought the commentary was a bit biased too but it didnt spoil my enjoyment of what was a good game in teh end. Both teams will do better this season than the table suggests.

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