AFL mock draft 2017: Top 30

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    Just a little more than a week out from the 2017 AFL draft, Maddy Friend and Josh Elliott have put together a mock draft of the top 30 picks.

    It’s common around this time of year to see draft predictions put together by individuals, such as this one by Josh a few weeks ago, but a collaborative effort to predict the draft can provide a different kind of insight.

    Because the participants don’t know what the other participants want to do with their upcoming picks, there’s a greater need to think strategically about what decisions clubs might make to maximise their returns.

    In our mock draft, Maddy is picking for the Brisbane Lions, Carlton Blues, Collingwood Magpies, St Kilda, Adelaide Crows, Sydney Swans, Geelong Cats and Melbourne Demons.

    Josh is picking for the Fremantle Dockers, North Melbourne Kangaroos, Western Bulldogs, Greater Western Sydney Giants, West Coast Eagles, Richmond Tigers and Gold Coast Suns.

    Pick 1 – Brisbane Lions (Maddy Friend) – Cameron Rayner
    187cm, 87kg

    Rayner is the best player in the draft. He’s got class, x-factor, and is really the complete package. He can also slot in and play senior footy next year, which is an advantage for Brisbane given the club’s young list.

    In taking Rayner, the Lions will have a 200-plus-game player who will complement the inside midfielders the club has recruited in recent years.

    I also considered Paddy Dow, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Adam Cerra and Andrew Brayshaw.

    Cameron Rayner AFL Draft 2017 tall

    (Photo by Robert Prezioso/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Pick 2 – Fremantle Dockers (Josh Elliott) – Paddy Dow
    185cm, 78kg

    If I’m Fremantle this year my number one priority is to find a big, hulking forward who can be the centrepiece of the forward line – but there just isn’t a prospect like that in this draft that you could justify taking with either of the Dockers’ top five picks.

    Instead, this is a pick to keep building a promising midfield. There’s a lot of good prospects here and it’s a tight decision, but I’m picking Dow – his breakaway speed from the contest is a rare trait and could be what leads him to become an elite midfielder.

    I disagree that they need to take a key forward in the draft – they’ve got Cam McCarthy and Matt Taberner, and are looking at Brennan Cox and Griffin Logue as potential key forwards as well. They’re well stocked there.

    In that sense, Dow is a great pick up.

    Pick 3 – Carlton Blues (Maddy Friend) – Adam Cerra
    186cm, 80kg

    The comparisons with Scott Pendlebury are cliche, but the classy Cerra shares many of the same traits.

    I also considered Luke Davies-Uniacke, given the Blues have lost Bryce Gibbs, but Cerra is too good to pass up.

    Pick 4 – North Melbourne Kangaroos (Josh Elliott) – Luke Davies-Uniacke
    187cm, 85kg

    Oof, that pick leaves me with a tough decision to make. I was planning for Jaidyn Stephenson at this pick but realistically I can’t see North Melbourne overlooking Luke Davies-Uniacke – or Dow or Rayner for that matter – if available.

    It’s telling of how even the top handful of picks is that someone like LDU could easily go at No.1 but could also be available here – a big-bodied midfielder type, he’s probably the most immediately ready for AFL football of this year’s draft, which is not something I tend to take into account, but which will appeal to North given the large number of senior players they’ve cut over the last two years. They can build a future midfield around him.

    Luke Davies-Uniacke AFL draft 2017 tall

    (Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

    Pick 5 – Fremantle Dockers (Josh Elliott) Jaidyn Stephenson
    189cm, 75kg

    Probably the best case scenario for Fremantle is that one of the players in the top four above slips through to them at some pick, but I’d be just as happy picking Jaidyn Stephenson.

    Stephenson is tall, at 189cm, but has excellent speed, and plays courageous, offensive football – it’s not a group of traits that you see together very often and it gives him as much if not more of a superstar ceiling than any other prospect going around.

    In him and Dow, I’ve picked Fremantle a pair of speedy, goal-kicking midfielders who can balance out Ross Lyon’s natural tendencies towards defensive football.

    Pick 6 – Collingwood Magpies (Maddy Friend) – Aaron Naughton
    194cm, 85kg

    There are still several good midfielders available, and any of them would be good selections for the Pies, but given their dearth of key-position players, Naughton would be too good to pass up.

    He’s the best key defender in the draft pool, and while his kicking needs work, he’s a player you can build your defence around. Pairing Naughton with Ben Reid in the next few years would be ideal.

    Pick 7 – St Kilda Saints (Maddy Friend) – Andrew Brayshaw
    184cm, 82kg

    Full disclosure – I’m a Saints fan, and if Brayshaw is available here come draft night, I will be ecstatic.

    I was a bit surprised Josh didn’t take him with Freo’s pick 5, but am glad he’s fallen to here. He’s not quick, but he’s the complete package otherwise, and is a classy and hard-working player who will nicely fit in with the Saints’ current band of young midfielders.

    Brayshaw was definitely one I considered with Fremantle’s second pick, and would also be a chance for North at pick 4. The reason I passed is he doesn’t have that obvious, defining attribute that separates him from the pack – but he’s a well-rounded prospect any club would be happy to have.

    Pick 8 – St Kilda Saints (Maddy Friend) – Hunter Clark
    186cm, 80kg

    I tossed up a few players here – Nick Coffield being one – but I chose Clark based on his speed and ability to play through the midfield and on a wing, which is what the Saints desperately need. He’s a classy ball user, and can play both inside and outside.

    Hunter Clark

    (Photo by Daniel Pockett/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Pick 9 – Western Bulldogs (Josh Elliott) – Darcy Fogarty
    192cm, 95kg

    I was probably hoping Aaron Naughton might slip to here – while the Bulldogs added two key position players over the trade period, it’s still an area on which they could work.

    There isn’t really one on the board at this stage, so instead I’m going for tall midfielder-forward Darcy Fogarty. He’s 191cm, so not quite true key-position height, but clubs will look to start him off as a forward or half-forward and eventually develop him into a tall inside midfielder who kicks goals.

    There are several players who would be in the mix here, I’ve picked him over them because I like his offensive capabilities as a point of difference to those who are more comfortable playing behind the ball.

    Pick 10 – Carlton Blues (Maddy Friend) – Jack Higgins
    178cm, 77kg

    Having taken Cerra at pick 3, the Blues can afford to fix a hole in their list by taking a small forward here. Higgins is the best one in the draft, and is already a consummate professional. He will play senior footy next year, and with his goal nous and determination, he’ll become a very good player.

    The one knock on him is his height, but we’ve seen with Caleb Daniel in recent times that if you’re a good player, this doesn’t matter. Higgins has been aware of the need to maximise his other abilities, and has done so successfully, so I don’t see this as an issue.

    Pick 11 – GWS Giants (Josh Elliott) – Nick Coffield
    191cm, 82kg

    Oh, that breaks my heart a little to see Higgins off the table right before the Giants pick – he’s the perfect fit for them here.

    That makes the decision a bit difficult, but I’m going to pick up Nick Coffield. He’s a 190cm rebounding defender type who can eventually progress into being a full-time midfielder, and GWS would be happy with him whether he stays as a defender with an eye to being a Heath Shaw replacement, or develops into a big-bodied mid.

    Pick 12 – Adelaide Crows (Maddy Friend) – Charlie Constable
    191cm, 86kg

    Constable will be a great pick for the Crows as they look to bolster their inside midfield stocks. He’ll work well with Rory Sloane and the Brothers Crouch, and at 190cm he’s the modern midfield prototype.

    He’s also a solid citizen, which is something I imagine will be important for the Crows given their recent retention issues.

    Pick 13 – West Coast Eagles (Josh Elliott) – Aiden Bonar
    189cm, 87kg

    West Coast are in something of an awkward position here, they’ve invested heavily into this draft after trading away next year’s first, so this might be the only top 20 pick they have across the next two years.

    Despite that being the case, I’m still going to take what might be a bit of a risk here and pick Aiden Bonar – his combination of height and speed gives him significant upside, but he’s already had two ACL injuries before even being drafted and that will make some teams wary. Still, he brings the x-factor the Eagles sorely need.

    Interesting taking Bonar after the Eagles took a bit of a gamble last year and selected Daniel Venables with their first pick, but I agree he adds x-factor.

    Aiden Bonar AFL

    (Photo by Robert Prezioso/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Pick 14 – Sydney Swans (Maddy Friend) – Jarrod Brander
    195cm, 92kg

    I’m surprised Josh didn’t select Brander for GWS, given his academy ties. I’ve taken him here, because he’s one of the best talls in the draft, and it’s an area where the Swans need more depth.

    They drafted a key defender last year in Jack Maibaum, but Brander’s versatility would be a definite advantage for the Swans. He’s been thrown around a bit, position-wise, but he fits best as a forward, so he’ll slot in nicely alongside Lance Franklin and Sam Reid.

    Came pretty close to picking Brander at the Giants’ first pick, yeah – talls who haven’t found their best position yet sometimes make me a bit skittish though, I worry they’ll get stuck in swingman limbo.

    Pick 15 – Brisbane Lions (Maddy Friend) – Oscar Allen
    191cm, 82kg

    This might be a bit of a reach for Allen, but with Josh Schache’s departure, the Lions could do with another key forward to develop. They addressed their small forward and midfield needs through the trade period (Charlie Cameron) and Rayner, so they can afford to take a forward here.

    Allen has a good pair of hands and is a good kick for goal, making him a good addition. The only problem may be the go-home factor, but that’s become less of an issue for Brisbane since Chris Fagan’s appointment.

    Allen is likely a player the Tigers and Bulldogs would be keen on with the following two picks, so he’s unlikely to still be on the board at pick 18.

    Pick 16 – Western Bulldogs (Josh Elliott) – Lochie O’Brien
    184cm, 77kg

    From the Bulldogs’ perspective, it would be disappointing to see two promising talls in Brander and Allen taken in the two picks before this one – Brander, in particular, would’ve been a good value get here.

    Noah Balta would be an option if they still wanted a tall, but with Lochie O’Brien on the table I’ll pick up him instead.

    An outside midfielder with some speed and a good left-foot kick, they can start him on half-back to replace Bob Murphy, with an eye to him becoming a fulltime winger as he progresses.

    Pick 17 – Richmond Tigers (Josh Elliott) – Sam Hayes
    203cm, 93kg

    Toby Nankervis was a great recruit for Richmond last year and obviously became a premiership player, but there’s still some need to think about the future of their ruck department. Having two more early picks to follow this one, and having just won a flag, they’ve got license to pick someone who is going to take a bit of time to develop.

    Hayes could be one of the best ruckmen in the competition when he comes of age, and might be someone who can float forward and kick goals at the next level too.

    Sam Hayes

    (Photo by Jack Thomas/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Pick 18 – Brisbane Lions (Maddy Friend) – Ed Richards
    185cm, 78kg

    Brisbane would be extremely happy to add Richards to their squad – he’s an excellent kick, has pace, and would complement Alex Witherden across the half-back line. He’s a genuinely exciting player, which the Lions need.

    Pick 19 – Brisbane Lions (Maddy Friend) – Connor Ballenden, matching bid
    198cm, 96kg

    I’m going to put in a bid here, the first bid of the draft, for Connor Ballenden, who is a Brisbane academy player.

    Having already brought in some instant impact by trading for Lachie Weller, Gold Coast can afford to take someone who will need a bit more time to develop – and, given he’s a Queenslander, is unlikely to run out on the club.

    A versatile key position prospect, from a Suns’ perspective, I’d be happy to see him develop in any area of the ground – defence, forward, or ruck – but if a bid comes this late then I suspect Brisbane will be happy to match.

    Happy to match Gold Coast’s bid here – while Ballenden has had an up-and-down 2017 season, he has some exciting traits, and he’s a good development player for the Lions over the next few years. Being an academy selection means he’s not about to complain about homesickness either.

    Pick 20 – Gold Coast Suns (Josh Elliott) – Lachlan Fogarty
    179cm, 75kg

    No surprises there. If I’m not picking a Queenslander, I want someone who can play sooner rather than later so they can become a part of the team and hopefully that eases any issues around homesickness.

    With that in mind, I’m going for Lachlan Fogarty, who’s a small midfielder with ball-winning ability, good skills and is a goalkicker – he would probably be going earlier if he had a few more centimetres.

    A big-bodied midfielder would’ve been nice, but it’s not really an option here.

    Lachlan Fogarty tall

    (Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

    Pick 21 – Richmond Tigers (Josh Elliott) – Noah Balta
    195cm, 95kg

    As I mentioned with the Hayes pick, coming off a premiership, Richmond can afford to pick players who still need to spend some time developing, and Balta is that – but this late in the draft, he’s good value.

    Athletic, tall at 195cm and probably more likely to be a key defender than a forward, I’m still happy to have him at either end from a Richmond perspective.

    Pick 22 – West Coast Eagles (Josh Elliott) – Nathan Murphy
    188cm, 80kg

    There’s a need at West Coast to find the next generation of goalkicker, so I’m picking a medium forward.

    A 188cm marking forward, Murphy’s got good endurance too, so can be developed with an eye to him playing stints up the ground and laying on forwardline pressure all day long.

    Pick 23 – Geelong Cats (Maddy Friend) – Tim Kelly
    182cm, 81kg

    Kelly is a mature-aged midfielder from the WAFL, who was eligible for the draft several years ago, but has gone away and worked on several things and improved greatly.

    Geelong like ready-made players who can have an immediate impact – such as Tom Stewart this season – and he’ll work well with the Cats’ midfield group.

    Pick 24 – North Melbourne Kangaroos (Josh Elliott) – Jack Petrucelle
    185cm, 78kg

    Having taken a ready-to-go midfielder for North at pick 4, I’m happy to balance that out with someone who is more of a project player in Jack Petrucelle.

    He is, simply, the fastest player in the draft, and can add some speed and excitement to a side that would love to have more of both. It might be a while before he has a big impact at senior level though.

    Pick 25 – Geelong Cats (Maddy Friend) – Matthew Ling
    183cm, 75kg

    Ling gives the Cats some run and carry off half-back, and is a local Geelong Falcons product, which will also appeal. There are some questions over his finishing ability, as he’s not the most accurate kick, but that can be remedied, and his other traits are probably too good to pass up here.

    Pick 26 – Richmond Tigers (Josh Elliott) – James Worpel
    185cm, 86kg

    I probably would’ve expected to be matching a big for Patrick Naish at this pick from a Richmond perspective, but wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a slider on draft night as clubs are often wary about investing in players as slight as he is.

    The Tigers will be ecstatic if they can bring in three quality youngsters before having to match a bid for him. Here I’m taking Worpel, a midfielder – his love of tackling will fit in well with the club’s pressure-first gameplan.

    Pick 27 – West Coast Eagles (Josh Elliott) – Joel Garner
    184cm, 83kg

    Garner is a good user of the ball, was All Australian at this year’s under 18 champs, and also captained Vic Metro to the championship. Leadership and good skills are both something West Coast could use more of, so he fits in well.

    Pick 28 – GWS Giants (Josh Elliott) – Gryan Miers
    178cm, 77kg

    If I’m the Giants I’d really like to get some smaller forwards who can add another dimension to what is currently a pretty top-heavy forward line. Miers kicked 50 goals in the TAC Cup this year, seven of them in the grand final, and can put pressure on too.

    Gryan Miers

    (Photo by Graham Denholm/AFL Media/Getty Images)

    Pick 29 – GWS Giants (Josh Elliott) – Charlie Spargo
    172cm, 70kg

    Spargo was in the Giants’ academy until the zones were changed, so they’ve already had a decent look at him and will know if they want him.

    At 172cm he’s one of the smallest players in the draft, but that’s not a worry for GWS, who have plenty of tall and big-bodied types. He can start as a small forward for them and probably eventually develop into a high half-forward or goal-kicking winger.

    Pick 30 – Melbourne Demons (Maddy Friend) – Zac Bailey
    181cm, 81kg

    Bailey is a smaller, quicker midfielder who wins a lot of his own ball. He’s not a proven goalkicker, but he would work well with Clayton Oliver and Jack Viney in winning the contested ball, and then being able to deliver it inside 50.

    I see him as being a link-up player for the Dees, which is something they could use.

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    • November 15th 2017 @ 8:41am
      Davo said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:41am | ! Report

      Good effort. The top four is really hard to pick and the four you mentioned are very even. I think The Lions may go for Dow or Luke Davies because of the go home factor and they are both country boys unlike Rayner. I also think this will apply for Fremantle so the above will be top two. I think Cerra may turn out to be the best of the four.

      • Editor

        November 15th 2017 @ 8:10pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:10pm | ! Report

        Personally I’m a bit sceptical of all the talk about Rayner being a go-home risk – I don’t think he is more than anyone else. He’s said publicly he’s happy to go interstate, obviously a lot of players say that kind of thing, but it’s definitely a Wingard style situation.

    • November 15th 2017 @ 8:42am
      Mattician6x6 said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:42am | ! Report

      Wce won’t let Kelly slip, explosive midfielder who can break through traffic with pace to burn and a keen goal sense, at 22 his age is no risk and fills a need wce midfield is sorely missing. Way more potential than a lot of the 18year olds out there and if as suggested josh you believe we should take a risk with our 1st pick then a bloke who is already physically mature makes more sense with our 2nd pick than another teenage development player.

      • Editor

        November 15th 2017 @ 8:12pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:12pm | ! Report

        He’s young enough that I wouldn’t be entirely against it, but I reckon West Coast should be planning for the longterm rather than picking up mature players.

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      November 15th 2017 @ 9:07am
      Andrew Blake said | November 15th 2017 @ 9:07am | ! Report

      Not sure the Lions need another key position player. They’ll take another midfielder at 15 because they know they’ll be picking up Ballenden and Jack Payne as Academy picks.

      • Roar Guru

        November 15th 2017 @ 11:46am
        Paul D said | November 15th 2017 @ 11:46am | ! Report

        Spot on. No way we take a KPP at 15, not with Ballenden coming in this year.

      • Roar Guru

        November 15th 2017 @ 12:05pm
        DingoGray said | November 15th 2017 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

        Yeah no key positions for the Lions, small forwards and midfielders are the order of the day.

      • Editor

        November 15th 2017 @ 8:13pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:13pm | ! Report

        It probably depends on where the Lions think Ballenden is going to fit long term and who else is available, but I can see what you mean. It’s not a bad thing to have an excess of KPPs.

    • November 15th 2017 @ 9:08am
      Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 9:08am | ! Report

      I listened to the “road to the Draft” mock draft yesterday and they had the blues getting Dow at 3 (Freo taking LDU) and taking Bonar at 10, that to me is a much better result for the blues than Cerra and Higgins but time will tell. FWIW they also had Cerra getting to the Saints at 7 or 8.

      I would also say that I don’t see “small forward” as a real “need” for the blues. Wright has been a very handy pick up and they will be looking at playing Fisher & Pickett as small forwards with Cuningham & SPS rotating that role & the middle (probably even Murphy will join them) this year with Lamb probably playing the defensive forward role, that to me seems plenty of speed and excitement up forward.

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        November 15th 2017 @ 11:33am
        AdelaideDocker said | November 15th 2017 @ 11:33am | ! Report

        Yeah, I’d imagine Freo would (potentially) take LDU at 2, and you guys get Dow at 3. I haven’t heard of Cerra being taken in the top 3 until this article (although admittedly I haven’t paid a whole heap of attention to the draft as of late).

        For mine, it’ll be:
        1). Rayner -> Lions
        2). LDU -> Freo
        3). Dow -> Carlton
        4). Stephenson -> NMFC
        5). Naughton -> Freo

        I’m probably wrong, but that’s all part of the fun of draft time!

        • November 15th 2017 @ 11:35am
          Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 11:35am | ! Report

          That’s how I would have it AD so it is almost certainly wrong!! 😉

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          November 15th 2017 @ 3:36pm
          Dalgety Carrington said | November 15th 2017 @ 3:36pm | ! Report

          It seems less and less likely that Naughton will go as high as 5, with the added factor that Freo have stocked up on a few backmen over recent times. I’ve heard Cerra spoken of highly in quite a few places as a very skilled player and in that top 3 or 4 mix.

          It seems to be the thing with this draft, there’s a fair bit of equality about it and those at the very very pointy end have separated themselves out via this year’s form.

          • Roar Guru

            November 15th 2017 @ 4:15pm
            SportsFanGC said | November 15th 2017 @ 4:15pm | ! Report

            I mentioned this on another thread, however I don’t see the Lions picking Rayner.

            They will go with either Dow or Uniacke-Davies being Vic Country boys and both probably at least somewhat familiar with McCluggage, Berry, Witherden and Cox from last year’s championships.

            With Pick 15 they will arguably look at Lochie O’Brien (again Vic Country) if he is available and then they lock in Ballenden after that to play alongside Hipwood next year.

          • November 16th 2017 @ 2:34am
            Don Freo said | November 16th 2017 @ 2:34am | ! Report

            Dalgety, Naughton is a Collingwood fan and they are looking for him at #6. You could be right.

            The more I read about these draft prospects, the more I really like Jaiden Stephenson. Big, fast and quirky flair. Clive Waterhouse and Tony Modra dynamic with Nat Fyfe-type preparation.

            Imagine a gifted eccentric that is consistent and reliable? A bit Stevie J.

            • Roar Guru

              November 16th 2017 @ 10:02am
              Dalgety Carrington said | November 16th 2017 @ 10:02am | ! Report

              Yep, Naughton just doesn’t fill a burning need at the moment for Freo to snaffle in the top 5. Stephenson very much does. If Freo can’t get key position forward, this guy’s attacking flair, dash and instinct for the goals would be a great addition. Also goes some way to fill the void Weller leaves.

              • November 16th 2017 @ 12:04pm
                Jon boy said | November 16th 2017 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

                Dalgety- Your spot on regarding Naughton i said months ago he is not a first rounder although highly talented but when you have kicking deficiencies at his age they invariably do not improve,way to big a risk. Any two of the 5 you mentioned or Fogarty is far more sense for Freo. Naughton is not a WA lad …just living here at present.has openly said that he loves Collingwood and would love to play for them…………They can have him.

              • Roar Guru

                November 16th 2017 @ 12:58pm
                Dalgety Carrington said | November 16th 2017 @ 12:58pm | ! Report

                Fogarty had an ordinary year, but easily be worth a top 5 pick. Good fit for Freo, given his ability forward and to run through the guts.

        • November 20th 2017 @ 10:09pm
          BigBlueBalls said | November 20th 2017 @ 10:09pm | ! Report

          Dow, Davies-Uniacke, Rayner will be the top 3, in what order we will soon find out.
          As a Carlton fan I want Dow but if Rayner drops I guarantee it wont be past pick 3.
          The Kangaroos can scrap these 3 and make their pick.
          Pick 4-7 in no particular order -Stephenson-Cerra-Naughton-Brayshaw
          Brayshaw is the smokey to get taken real early.

      • Editor

        November 15th 2017 @ 8:15pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:15pm | ! Report

        Enjoyed that pod yesterday, though while the mock draft was great, I think the most important information was that Cal Twomey once had a mohawk.

    • November 15th 2017 @ 9:52am
      Hungry Jack said | November 15th 2017 @ 9:52am | ! Report

      Yeah, good effort Maddy and Josh. Would have been a fun exercise to participate in. Your crystal ball is as good as anyone’s. One ‘rogue’ or unexpected pick can change the outcome dramatically. Look forward to seeing how things pan out.

      • November 15th 2017 @ 9:56am
        Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 9:56am | ! Report

        Yeah Exactly HJ – Cerra here is a good example – the blues could well take him at 3 but if they don’t North would probably take Stephenson at 4 and Cerra could slip all the way to 7 as Callum Twomey and Mick Ablett predicted.

      • Editor

        November 15th 2017 @ 8:16pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:16pm | ! Report

        It was good fun!

    • November 15th 2017 @ 10:05am
      Steve009 said | November 15th 2017 @ 10:05am | ! Report

      I’ve heard that rumour that Carlton have shown interest in Certain, but I’ve also been hearing about the clear top 3 for the last few months.

      Personally I’m hoping for Dow at 3 and another midfielder at 10, Hunter or Constsable I like. If we picked up LDU at 3 I would maybe pass on Constsable at 10.

      If Fogarty happened to slip out to 10 I think we should take him.

      The other I really like the sound of, but perhaps isn’t what we need with already a lot of backs is Coffield.

      • November 15th 2017 @ 10:17am
        Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 10:17am | ! Report

        Steve – I am with you on Dow – I think he would compliment our midfield really well and if we miss him I would take LDU.

        I am less sold on Fogarty – seems a little it of everything but nothing really, not a true midfielder but too short to play key position. I would love the blues to take a punt on Bonar, Josh’s word’s of “his combination of height and speed” and “he brings the x-factor” are things that would really suit the blues. It’s a risk but given the success SOS has had in recent drafts and the likelihood of a quality player at 3 it is one we can afford to take IMO.

        • November 15th 2017 @ 10:42am
          Steve009 said | November 15th 2017 @ 10:42am | ! Report

          I like the idea of Cripps and LDU at the foot of the contest, but I think Dow’s pace would better compliment Cripps.
          As for Bonar, I’m a bit gun shy on those knees. I think where Carlton’s list development is at moment that pick 10 is really important to get right and not gamble with.

          Talking double knee reco’s is there any chance Carlton throw a one year, last chance, contract to Troy Menzel?
          That’s a low risk gamble maybe worth taking.

          • November 15th 2017 @ 10:52am
            Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 10:52am | ! Report

            Steve – my thinking exactly on Dow – with him and Cuningham having that burst speed, Cripps and Kennedy the strength at the contest and the likes of SPS & Fisher outside it is a good mix.

            On Bonar I think he could be like a Selwood or a Judd who slipped down on injury queries but then rarely missed a game. Also given the other options around that mark have some queries and look to be a punt to some degree I would take the one with the biggest upside.

            On Menzel it is something I have been thinking about as well – the blues need to find at least 3 more players beyond the draft to fill their senior list and 3 more rookies so they might throw him a lifeline but I think Bolton wold prefer a less talented more committed player.

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              November 15th 2017 @ 11:18am
              Col from Brissie said | November 15th 2017 @ 11:18am | ! Report

              Macca, I agree Bonar would be a good fit for the Blues but like Steve a kid with 2 knee reconstructions already make me think the Blues should look elsewhere. As a rebuilding list we need to add 200 plus gamers and not take chances on suspect knees.

              With pick 3 any of the first 4 mentioned would be good pickups and with pick 10 I like any of Fogarty, Brayshaw or Coffield if they are available.

              I think Menzel has shown that he has the talent but not the commitment so I can’t see him in either of Bolton or Silvagni’s thinking. I am surprised that Hartung has not been picked up by anyone. I know there are doubts on his pressure and disposal but he gets plenty of the ball and his deficiencies can be worked on. I think he would be a good pickup and add more midfield depth.

              • November 15th 2017 @ 11:26am
                Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 11:26am | ! Report

                Col – Agree on Menzel.

                On Bonar – from what I heard the second knee reco was required because they didn’t do it properly the first time so it might be a little mis-leading. I am happy to take the risk but I can see why you wouldn’t but at the end of the day whoever we pick I am confident SOS will get it right.

                On Hartung – I think he will find a home after the draft – possibly at the blues.

              • November 15th 2017 @ 1:36pm
                Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

                Col – here is a good indication of the players who will be filling some of our vacancies-

                “Former Gold Coast wingman Matt Shaw, ex-Port Adelaide defender Cameron O’Shea and delisted Carlton midfielder Blaine Boekhorst have all joined in the Blues’ pre-season training.”

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                November 15th 2017 @ 3:17pm
                Col from Brissie said | November 15th 2017 @ 3:17pm | ! Report

                Macca, shocking news. Reports are that Docherty has ruptured his ACL at training.

              • November 15th 2017 @ 5:11pm
                Steve009 said | November 15th 2017 @ 5:11pm | ! Report

                How many days have they been back at training?
                Of course it will hurt the team, but truly awful for Docherty

              • November 15th 2017 @ 5:18pm
                Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 5:18pm | ! Report

                Docherty started back Monday.

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                November 15th 2017 @ 3:19pm
                AdelaideDocker said | November 15th 2017 @ 3:19pm | ! Report


                “As we commence our pre-season campaign, the news of Sam’s injury is incredibly disappointing for everyone but foremost for Sam,” football manager Andrew McKay said in a statement.

                “Sam is a total professional and a resilient young man and we know he will face his rehabilitation process with the utmost dedication.

                “As a terrific young leader at our club, Sam will continue to work with the leadership group and assist in the development of our young players both on and off the field.

                “While we are incredibly disappointed by the long-term nature of Sam’s injury, it provides an opportunity for our young defenders to continue to train hard over the pre-season to solidify their spot in the backline in Sam’s absence in 2018.”

                Appalling news for you guys, but I guess there’s the silver lining (if you could call it that) in allowing the young defenders to get more experience?

              • November 15th 2017 @ 3:48pm
                Peter the Scribe said | November 15th 2017 @ 3:48pm | ! Report

                Poor young fella, Matty Scharenberg has come back from two. He will be back and is a good player.

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                November 15th 2017 @ 4:09pm
                Col from Brissie said | November 15th 2017 @ 4:09pm | ! Report

                AD, I think the consensus at Carlton was that Docherty would be spending more time in the midfield next season as a replacement for Gibbs, thus the acquisition of Mullett from North to play halfback. It’s certainly is a big blow for the Blues losing a player of Dochertys talent especially after trading Gibbs.

                It could change the clubs thinking on what type of player they were thinking to recruit from the list of delisted free agents.

              • November 15th 2017 @ 4:19pm
                Macca said | November 15th 2017 @ 4:19pm | ! Report

                A bit of a kick in the nuts but if it is going to happen 2018 isn’t a bad year for it to happen – hopefully it means we find another player.

                It is also handy it happened early – 12 months off still gets him a full pre-season for 2019 and we still have space on our list to look for a replacement in the delisted free agents.

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                November 15th 2017 @ 4:22pm
                Paul D said | November 15th 2017 @ 4:22pm | ! Report

                You shouldn’t have been so keen to push Gibbs out the door Macca :)~

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        November 15th 2017 @ 8:17pm
        Josh Elliott said | November 15th 2017 @ 8:17pm | ! Report

        There does seem to be a bit of rumour flitting around about both Cerra or Brayshaw fitting into the top three unexpectedly – It’ll be interesting to see if it pans out or not.