Pocock upset with Force decision


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    Champion Wallabies backrower David Pocock is saddened by the culling of the Super Rugby franchise that gave him his big break but hopes WA will continue supplying players at that level.

    Pocock recently returned from his 2017 sabbatical during which he visited his birth county of Zimbabwe and played in Japan under his first Wallabies coach Robbie Deans.

    The Brumbies star hopes to resume running in the next couple of weeks after undergoing knee surgery.

    “Hopefully I won’t miss too much of Super (Rugby), the goal is to get back as soon as I can,” Pocock said on Friday.

    Pocock played his first seven seasons and 69 Super Rugby games with the Western Force from 2006-12.

    He said he’d spoken to quite a few of his former Force colleagues, who had to look elsewhere to play, after the franchise was cut from Super Rugby following last season.

    “Obviously as someone who played with the Force, (it was) really tough news to take,” Pocock said.

    “As a player, that’s not in your hands. People are making decisions based on information that we’re not across and you’ve got to move on.

    “A lot of (former Force) guys are making their new home in Melbourne, (the Brumbies) have got a couple of great signings (from the Force.).”

    “Hopefully the pathways in WA are still alive and we still see more players stepping into Super Rugby.”

    Pocook was looking forward to again playing with Brumbies and Wallabies playmaker Christian Lealiifano, who has recovered from leukaemia.

    “There’s often not too many fairytale endings in life, we’re both back at the Brumbies something we talked about a lot,” Pocock said.

    He enjoyed his sabbatical but said the concept might not suit every player.

    In Japan, Pocock continued to add aspects to his game under the tutelage of old mentor and New Zealander Deans.

    “The way they played I was a little bit wider in attack, in an outside channel which I enjoyed,” Pocock said.

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    • February 10th 2018 @ 7:11am
      Redsfan1 said | February 10th 2018 @ 7:11am | ! Report

      Well Pocock’s massive salary to do nothing wouldn’t have helped the ARU’S finances and the Force.

      • February 11th 2018 @ 9:26pm
        Party Pooper said | February 11th 2018 @ 9:26pm | ! Report

        Exactly! The bludger wanted to go back and live under the palm trees in Rhodesia for a year and the fools in ARU let him.

        Remember even when he was playing we never won the World Cup or Bledisloe.

    • February 10th 2018 @ 9:58am
      rugger said | February 10th 2018 @ 9:58am | ! Report

      And Quade’s salary is helping how.

      Point is its not Force that is at fault but ARU for having top-down approach to sports management.

      AFL with its bottom up approach is killing it whilst ARU is killing the game itself with shortsightedness.

      • February 10th 2018 @ 10:37am
        Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:37am | ! Report

        Every sport with a meaningful international component has a top down approach.

        Cricket for example.

        AFL has a top down approach. The AFL level is just the top.

        • February 10th 2018 @ 12:20pm
          Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 12:20pm | ! Report


        • February 10th 2018 @ 7:10pm
          Rootrivic said | February 10th 2018 @ 7:10pm | ! Report

          100’s of kids at my local AusKick club all getting footy packs and a season of footy for $40 might disagree. AFL’s AusKick program is fantastic.

          • February 10th 2018 @ 10:41pm
            andrewM said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:41pm | ! Report

            Got to agree there Rootrivic.
            They do a pretty good job with the Auskick package and the consistent branding
            Hockey seems to be doing a pretty good job too with this as well.
            Hopefully Twiggy’s RugbyRoos will bring the same level of recognition to Union as well

          • February 11th 2018 @ 12:04am
            Train Without A Station said | February 11th 2018 @ 12:04am | ! Report

            And that isn’t funded from the top down?

        • February 10th 2018 @ 11:14pm
          Bakkies said | February 10th 2018 @ 11:14pm | ! Report

          Cameron just like Football and Basketball

          • February 11th 2018 @ 10:55am
            Train Without A Station said | February 11th 2018 @ 10:55am | ! Report

            Basketball’s international game isn’t significant compared to the club game. Many of the best club players opt not to play.

            Soccer in Australia is basically funded by the Socceroos and A-League down.

      • February 10th 2018 @ 11:28am
        Ex force fan said | February 10th 2018 @ 11:28am | ! Report

        The difference is how much of the available resources are focussed to grassroots and community sports (the non professional side) vs how much as spend on professional side of the sport. A top down approach means over investment to the professional side of the game at the cost of the amateur side.

        I agree with Rudder, the ARU is spending far too much of what they have on the Wallabies and Superugby (and a lot of it is dumb spending as well) vs the AFL. As soon as they have a little money they waste it.

        • February 10th 2018 @ 1:57pm
          Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 1:57pm | ! Report

          The difference is how much is available.

          ARU spending only differs from NZRU by a similar % to wage comparisons for example.

          And people are paid less than the AFL on average for example.

          The ARU is in the position due to the relative strengths of the codes where it can’t afford compete for people in sports admin, but also can’t afford not to, as it only serves to further compound the income disparity.

          Likewise player payments aren’t made in a vacuum. Locally we compete for athletes and globally we compete for rugby players. Being to frugal with salaries would see us lose the players that create our only valuable product to derive income from.

          To say they are spending too much on Wallabies and Super Rugby is ludicrous as we rely on players staying for below market value already.

          And to paint it out as though success was something easily achievable and just couldn’t be bothered doing the right thing is misguided. It’s a balancing act of maximising revenue; managing stakeholders dripping with self interest, competing for different types of employees and government grants to maximise your position as well as working with NZ and SA just to name a few. Undoubtedly many errors have been made, but that’s the same as every sport. AFL, NRL FFA and CA all have their own share of bad press lately.

          Another huge factor is that one the money dries up, it leads to toxic media. And that all started when the ARU made the decision not to grant the Shute Shield Clubs money to help subsidise their operation – because they needed to reduce expenditure. And this funding didn’t assist revenue earning functions.

          • February 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm
            Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm | ! Report

            Compare the quality of athlete b/w nz players and Aussie player. Not. In the same ballpark. It’s like Barcelona players (Nz) vs Huddersfield (aus)

            • February 10th 2018 @ 3:59pm
              Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 3:59pm | ! Report


              That doesn’t stop competitors offering our players more money.

              Guess everybody in world rugby must have it wrong…

            • February 10th 2018 @ 4:05pm
              Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

              Yeah Pocock, Hooper, Naivalu, Koroibete, Hodge, Kerevi and Folau are terrible athletes….

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:09pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:09pm | ! Report


              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:12pm
                Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:12pm | ! Report

                Because (1) the teams were poorly coached, (2) we suffered from player drain earlier and worse than New Zealand and (3) our talent was spread too thinly for our player numbers.

                It has nothing to do with our athletes being inherently worse.

                And it definitely doesn’t apply to international level where a lot/most of our athletes are just as athletic as the All Blacks. They just aren’t as skilled or as well coached (either at international level, SR level or growing up).

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:19pm
                Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:19pm | ! Report

                I think NZ does have a slightly better pool.

                Essentially because the erosion of the AB’s jersey is about a decade behind the erosion of the wallabies jersey.

                They’ll turn back more money to stay than Australians will.

                But as the money rises and disparity rises, this will start to erode. Because each player that chooses the money over the jersey erodes that jersey appeal to the next bloke.

                The was more allure so it held strong for much longer. But as money in the global game grows, but stagnates in the SANZAAR unions, eventually it will reach breaking point. It’s just a higher breaking point.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:22pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:22pm | ! Report

                Dream on

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:29pm
                Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

                Amazing comeback.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 5:09pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:09pm | ! Report

                Thinking like yours is why aus is broke and Nz are killing it

              • February 10th 2018 @ 5:37pm
                Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

                You should give thinking a try once

              • February 11th 2018 @ 10:33am
                Malo said | February 11th 2018 @ 10:33am | ! Report

                Keep the status quo and expect the same results. AFLWomens is marketed better and is now has a bigger following than men’s rugby at games. The aru Do bugger all.

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              February 10th 2018 @ 6:57pm
              Rob na Champassak said | February 10th 2018 @ 6:57pm | ! Report

              I reckon the Terriers could hold Barca on their day! 😉

          • February 10th 2018 @ 5:57pm
            andrewM said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:57pm | ! Report


    • February 10th 2018 @ 10:33am
      bert said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:33am | ! Report

      Well said. Our game is enjoying unprecedented growth worldwide, but not here. Snouts in the trough will not resign to make way for men (and women) of vision

      • February 10th 2018 @ 11:28am
        StuM said | February 10th 2018 @ 11:28am | ! Report

        Loads of global sports are growing fast though, not just vanilla flavoured, modern day rugby, which in my modest opinion, is not as compelling a game anymore as we all like to think it is, or remember it once was before rule changes of safety and idealism. The rampant online content demand for anything closely resembling a contest of any type that can be cheaply produced and boxed for TV content anywhere feeds most sports these days. Unfortunately, nothing special about rugby in that regard, with so many soft, dull rule changes now. Very lucky for rugby it has a world cup every four years to galvanise the code and keep the coffers full a while longer, while they attempt to cash in on hopefully lucrative TV deals.

      • February 10th 2018 @ 11:37am
        Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 11:37am | ! Report

        Our game is also in the most congested market with more entrenched competitors.

        Interestingly the main OS competitor is football. Which is struggling here.

    • February 10th 2018 @ 10:34am
      Dan54 said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:34am | ! Report

      Though I agree with you Rugger, it hard to compare with AFL, there is no international sport to have a top down approach anyway, the clubs play the players, so all AFL’s money is rightly channelled back into kids etc, and they do a great job!

      • February 10th 2018 @ 10:37am
        Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:37am | ! Report

        The AFL pays the clubs, which pays the players.

        • February 10th 2018 @ 12:38pm
          Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

          The aru system is completely ridiculous as cooper and Pocock & Genia s contracts show.

          • February 10th 2018 @ 1:38pm
            Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 1:38pm | ! Report

            No different to the CA system…

          • February 10th 2018 @ 2:20pm
            Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 2:20pm | ! Report

            Why is it their contracts that are ridiculous?

            • February 10th 2018 @ 2:23pm
              Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 2:23pm | ! Report

              Because how dare players individuals like be highly rated by other people!

            • February 10th 2018 @ 3:17pm
              Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 3:17pm | ! Report

              Work it out, unlike the afl and nrl these players generate nothing to their provinces.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm
                Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 3:58pm | ! Report

                Except for all the revenue…

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:04pm
                Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

                Malo, that was clearly an inept attempt at a comeback as a result of you having no point beyond whinging and blathering about all things Australian rugby.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:11pm
                Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:11pm | ! Report

                And hilariously, even if you disregard any discussion over if Cooper is or isn’t overpaid, that’s not a flaw of a system.

                That’s a selection flaw. And the AFL and NRL has plenty of players perceived to be overpaid.

                I’d love to chat about this with Jock at the Bondi 10s in 2 weeks. But I doubt he’s willing to crawl away from the free after training jugs they share to the old codgers at easts. Plus I’d say the old scot is too tight to reach into his own pocket and buy his own beer elsewhere.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:24pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:24pm | ! Report

                Name league team paying $650 k a year to not play. Wake up and smell the coffee.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:26pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

                They do not generate results or revenue

              • February 10th 2018 @ 4:29pm
                Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

                Name one rugby union player played $650,000 a year not to play.

                Bear in mind that the myth that Pocock was paid not to play has been proven a myth time and time again. Instead, he had his salary for two seasons paid over three seasons for presumably cash and tax flow services. Also bear in mind that Quade is not being paid not to play, he is contracted to the Reds but the current coach is not interested in him making the team.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 5:04pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:04pm | ! Report

                Q.c, pocock

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                February 10th 2018 @ 4:46pm
                Train Without A Station said | February 10th 2018 @ 4:46pm | ! Report


                The Bullldogs are paying for James Graham to play against them in fact.

                Tigers for Farah to do the same last year.

              • February 10th 2018 @ 5:55pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:55pm | ! Report

                The nrl and afl has. A following the aru have nought

              • February 10th 2018 @ 5:06pm
                Fionn said | February 10th 2018 @ 5:06pm | ! Report

                So, no one then?


              • February 10th 2018 @ 6:05pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 6:05pm | ! Report

                Just you and ‘twas watching the rebel spoons but yeah Genia is worth $800 k

              • February 10th 2018 @ 7:00pm
                Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

                What’s q.c earning you goose

    • February 10th 2018 @ 10:43am
      Stu B said | February 10th 2018 @ 10:43am | ! Report

      David don’t know how you suffered that crook knee for the whole of your sabbatical, must have been difficult, now it’s time to play you take sick leave to have it repaired and to add insult to injury those dumb ars** who are called ARU or AU( or something) are still happy to pay your terribly inflated salary possibly the big bucks they saved from obliterating rugby WA.Only a cunning old fella could orgistrate a paid holiday of this magnitude.

    • February 10th 2018 @ 11:42am
      Malo said | February 10th 2018 @ 11:42am | ! Report

      He’s taking the Michael, bled the coffers dry.

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