Super Rugby Round 6: The weekend six-pack

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    After the opening rounds of a full seven games, we’re back to the more-conveniently sized, easy-to-consume six this weekend.

    And at good times, too. Games Friday as usual, but then Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening, the standard set-the-alarm game from South Africa, and then, to finish the round off, the Sunday morning jewel in the crown that is Super Rugby: breakfast bloody rugby. How good?

    There were fives for several of us last week, with the Jaguares and Rebels undoing perfect rounds for Digger and myself. Four for Harry and Geoff. And four for The Crowd, too.

    Overall: Nobes 22; Digger 20; Harry, Brett, Geoff, and The Crowd 19.

    Nobes
    TIPS: Crusaders, Rebels, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Stormers, Jaguares.

    Here we go again with many questions marks in different games from Round 6. Why do we have three byes this round? Beats me.

    Is the nursery home Crusaders capable of defeating this improved Bulls? It is going to be a close game, but I will stick to the home team.

    Crusaders

    (Photo by Martin Hunter/Getty Images)

    Are the Rebels capable to return to the winning path or the game lost to the Waratahs last weekend opened to many questions for their players and coaching staff? The Sharks did not look very good last weekend either, so home rule is the safe bet.

    Last weekend Sunwolves are for real? Can they pose a threat to the Chiefs in Tokyo? I do not think so, the Chiefs in this one. The Hurricanes have finally rested and will have to much powder for a bruise Highlander team after last weekend game. I think that the Reds have added too many flying miles on their way to Cape Town and a high spirit Stormers will take advantage of that.

    Which teams will show at Buenos Aires? Jaguares on one side have so many internal problems and differences among their players, and Mario Ledesma will have problems solving that in just one week. In the other hand the Lions have plenty of injuries and also have to rest some of the usual starters.

    For different reasons both teams need the points but who wants them more? I may get burned again but I will tip the Jaguares at home.

    Sure thing: We will have a drop goal.

    Harry
    TIPS: Crusaders, Sharks, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Stormers, Jaguares.

    Tipping 2018 Super Rugby is like choosing your favourite stripper with a blindfold on. You just have to feel it.

    I feel the intensely physical, but undisciplined Crusaders will overcome the fleet challenge of the fast-start-slow-finish Bulls. Purely relying on my gut, I feel the Sharks will find their groove in the Sports Capital of the World. The Rebels pack will struggle against the behemoths of the Sharks.

    The Chiefs have a tackle-misser at centre to rival Raymond Rhule, but they’ll sort Johnny Fa’auli’s technique, and nip the globetrotting Sunwolves, who are now stocked up with about eight big Saffas and Pacific Islanders.

    The Hurricane-Highlander derby is a 50-50 ‘who scores last’ puzzler. I’ll go with the North Island lads; I can’t believe Ben Smith can talk a referee out of awarding a try again.

    TJ Perenara

    (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

    The young and hardy Stormers will defeat the young and hardy Reds; because it’s at Newlands.

    In Argentina, the victor will be the referee. I have no idea if the awesome Round 4 Jaguares or the abysmal Round 5 Jaguares will show up. But they face the shaky Lions, who have overplayed Andries Coetzee, Ross Cronje, Elton Jantjies, Franco Mostert, and Kwagga Smith so much, they have no legs at all.

    Malcolm Marx still looks scared at lineout time. The Joburgers miss the Ackerman tag team, Wonderful Warren Whiteley, and Jaco Kriel most of all. Also, Coetzee was the worst player at Ellis Park last weekend. I’ll tip the Jaguares by one point.

    Sure thing: Brad Thorn will break something in Cape Town.

    Digger
    TIPS: Crusaders, Rebels, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Stormers, Lions.

    I would back the Crusaders to get their season back on track at home against the Bulls as I simply don’t believe they have the mentality to win away just yet. And I will back the Rebels at home for much the same reason.

    The Chiefs should have too much firepower for the Sunwolves, while the Stormers at Newlands will be a bridge too far for the travelling Reds despite their resilient defence. I am going to tip the Lions in Buenos Aires. Dunno why, but I just feel it is due in the battle between two sides who are struggling to convince at this time.

    Oh, and Canes by plenty thanks.

    Sure thing: Jordie will kick something from far away, the accountant will do something brilliant and the biggest derby will be who has the loudest voice between Aaron Smith and TJ Perenara.

    Brett
    TIPS: Crusaders, Rebels, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Stormers, Lions.

    Can I just start the weekend off by saying that I’m still angry about the Jaguares? Did they not recognise the enormity of playing for my perfect round? Honestly Jaguares, tenías un trabajo

    Crusaders get Whitelock and Crotty back this week, and that should be enough to keep the Bulls on toast. And I just didn’t see anything attack-wise from the Sharks last week that should trouble the Rebels, who have had a very timely dose of reality.

    I’d love for this week to be when the Moondogs to break their drought, but I suspect going from the warmth of the high veldt to the winter of Tokyo to meet a Chefs side cooking with gas, within one week; I don’t think this will be the week.

    I think the Stormers would’ve been too good for the Reds anyway, but adding another two lengthy plane legs to the journey only compounds this. And I’m still too angry at the Jaguares to pick them this week.

    Damian Willemse

    (Photo by Dianne Manson/Getty Images)

    They’re on their final yellow card warning, for the record, and I’m very serious about this; just like referees handing out their definitive final warnings. No more buggering me around, Jags.

    I’ve left the Hurricanes-Highlanders until last, and it’s been the one game troubling we all week. I do really like the Highlanders chances; they’re playing great rugby, they’ve already clicked as a team/coach unit, and they could definitely win this. But the injuries worry me, and the game being in Wellington worries me. I think it’s enough to stick with the ‘Canes, but by a lot less than plenty.

    Sure thing: Again I find myself saying, “the Jaguares, obviously”.

    Geoff
    TIPS: Crusaders, Rebels, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Stormers, Lions

    Well, another rough round is starting to mess with confidence levels. The Crusaders should be a moral at home, but the Bulls definitely have some fizz about them under John Mitchell. I’ll go the safe route, as I will in Melbourne, although I won’t be surprised if the Sharks finally shake off their lethargy and play to their potential.

    The Sunwolves are going to beat somebody soon but not this week; the Chiefs will continue to tip-toe around their injury woes. Injuries will test the Highlanders too – I like the Canes at home is this weekend’s ‘must-watch’ derby.

    NEW PLYMOUTH, NEW ZEALAND - MAY 06: Sam Cane of the Chiefs breaks the Reds defence during the round 11 Super Rugby match between the Chiefs and the Reds at Yarrow Stadium on May 6, 2017 in New Plymouth, New Zealand.

    (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

    Assuming that the Reds finally arrive in Cape Town, the Stormers will punish them for their vaccination snafu. As to which Jaguares will turn up against the Lions? This isn’t tipping, it’s a lucky dip! The Lions depth will be tested but they are more of a team and that has to count for something.

    Sure thing: In Wellington, referee Mike Fraser is stood aside at the last minute, replaced by Romanian official Vlad Iordachescu. After the Highlanders win, aided by a 30-2 penalty count, a container load of Speights and a blue and gold beanie and scarf are delivered to Iordachescu’s Bucharest home.

    Get your votes in now – The Crowd’s tips will be revealed Friday afternoon AEDT.

    Who gets your tip? Got a sure thing yourself? Let us know in the comments below, and enjoy your rugby this weekend…

    Brett McKay
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    Brett McKay is one of The Roar's good news stories and has been a rugby and cricket expert for the site since July 2009. Brett is an international and Super Rugby commentator for ABC Grandstand radio, has commentated on the Australian Under-20s Championships and National Rugby Championship live stream coverage, and has written for magazines and websites in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and the UK. He tweets from @BMcSport.

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    • March 22nd 2018 @ 9:01am
      AJ said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:01am | ! Report

      Toot toot, there’s plenty of room on the Reds train guys. Get on when you’re ready.

      • Columnist

        March 22nd 2018 @ 10:09am
        Brett McKay said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:09am | ! Report

        I’m told the train is still in London though…

        • Roar Guru

          March 22nd 2018 @ 10:10am
          Harry Jones said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:10am | ! Report

          Ouch.

        • March 22nd 2018 @ 10:27am
          AJ said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:27am | ! Report

          Is that an ELO song?

          • Roar Guru

            March 22nd 2018 @ 2:25pm
            The Neutral View From Sweden said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

            Almost, the ELO song is called “Last Train to London” from their epic album “Discovery”.

      • March 22nd 2018 @ 12:45pm
        handles said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:45pm | ! Report

        not quite the place, but while Reds are front of mind, I want to give a special shoutout to Hoilesy and that other one whose commentary had Kane Douglas red carded for a supposed high tackle last week… only to hear “just a penalty” from the ref. Not deterred, they doubled down and had him up in front of the judiciary to be suspended, only to hear…stony silence. It amazes me that you can get a gig commentating rugby on television, with your only apparent skill the ability to spangli-butcher your way through “Hag-you-are-rays” five times a minute.

        • March 23rd 2018 @ 6:49am
          Dave_S said | March 23rd 2018 @ 6:49am | ! Report

          😂

    • Roar Guru

      March 22nd 2018 @ 9:04am
      Nobrain said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:04am | ! Report

      Oh Brett, not even one word on my Tahs prediction last week ? Jaguares will win and burn you again.

      • Roar Guru

        March 22nd 2018 @ 9:09am
        Machooka said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:09am | ! Report

        Apparently so… 🙁

      • Roar Guru

        March 22nd 2018 @ 9:14am
        Nobrain said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:14am | ! Report

        I think Digger is tipping Jaguares or there is some type of confusion?

        • Roar Guru

          March 22nd 2018 @ 9:38am
          Machooka said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:38am | ! Report

          Apparently so… part #2 !?!

        • March 22nd 2018 @ 9:58am
          Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:58am | ! Report

          No, it is Lions for me and fully expect to be burned again 😂

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 12:35pm
            Suzy Poison said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:35pm | ! Report

            Digger. I think that’s a good pick mate. Swys rested all his stars last week, in prep for the Jags.
            This one is super important for the Lions.

            • March 22nd 2018 @ 12:38pm
              Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

              That was my theory Suzy but also they surely don’t want to go down three in a row!!

              • March 22nd 2018 @ 6:39pm
                cuw said | March 22nd 2018 @ 6:39pm | ! Report

                i guess eyes will be on the refs of both these matches.

                many will hope anselemi will show some backbone and not let the TMO dictate decisions.

                and Kubo will be much more strict than last week when he let Chiefs get away with a lot for most of the game.

                not forgettting the reversal of his original red card decision ( again at the persistence of TMO )

                Crusaders:

                15 David Havili, 14 Manasa Mataele, 13 Jack Goodhue, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 George Bridge, 10 Mitchell Hunt, 9 Mitchell Drummond,

                8 Jordan Taufua, 7 Billy Harmon, 6 Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, 5 Sam Whitelock (c), 4 Scott Barrett, 3 Michael Alaalatoa, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 Tim Perry

                Replacements:

                16 Ben Funnell, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Oliver Jager, 19 Quinten Strange, 20 Tom Sanders, 21 Bryn Hall, 22 Brett Cameron, 23 Braydon Ennor

                Bulls:

                15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Burger Odendaal (c), 11 Divan Rossouw, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Embrose Papier,

                8 Tim Agaba, 7 Hanro Liebenberg, 6 Roelof Smit, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Jason Jenkins, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Jaco Visagie, 1 Pierre Schoeman

                Replacements:

                16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Frans van Wyk, 19 Hendre Stassen, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Ivan van Zyl, 22 Manie Libbok, 23 Johnny Kotze

                Date: Friday, March 23

                Venue: AMI Stadium, Christchurch

                Kick-off: 19:35 local (06:35 GMT)

                Referee: Federico Anselmi (Argentina)

                Assistant referees: Nick Briant (New Zealand), Richard Kelly (New Zealand)

                TMO: Aaron Paterson (New Zealand)

                Melbourne Rebels:

                15 Jack Maddocks, 14 Sefa Naivalu, 13 Reece Hodge, 12 Billy Meakes, 11 Marika Koroibete, 10 Jack Debreczeni, 9 Will Genia,

                8 Amanaki Mafi, 7 Colby Fainga’a, 6 Angus Cottrell, 5 Adam Coleman (c), 4 Geoff Parling, 3 Jermaine Ainsley, 2 Anaru Rangi, 1 Tetera Faulkner

                Replacements:

                16 Mahe Vailanu, 17 Fereti Sa’aga, 18 Sam Talakai, 19 Matt Philip, 20 Ross Haylett-Petty, 21 Richard Hardwick, 22 Michael Ruru, 23 Tom English

                Sharks:

                15 Curwin Bosch, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Robert du Preez, 9 Louis Schreuder,

                8 Tera Mtembu, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Jacques Vermeulen, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha (c), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Beast Mtawarira

                Replacements:

                16 Franco Marais, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Hyron Andrews, 20 Wian Vosloo, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Kobus van Wyk, 23 Garth April

                Date: Friday, March 23

                Venue: AAMI Park, Melbourne

                Kick-off: 19:45 local (08:45 GMT)

                Referee: Shuhei Kubo (Japan)

                Assistant referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Damon Murphy (Australia)

                TMO: Ian Smith (Australia)

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 1:45pm
            Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 1:45pm | ! Report

            As there will be burnt cake in the Cake Tin, Digger!!! Lol…

            • Roar Guru

              March 22nd 2018 @ 1:54pm
              Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 1:54pm | ! Report

              You are feisty today mate!

              Good stuff.

              • March 22nd 2018 @ 2:21pm
                Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:21pm | ! Report

                Hahaha, Mate, not as feisty as burnt cake!!! lol. Cheers Bro!!

              • Roar Guru

                March 22nd 2018 @ 2:24pm
                Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:24pm | ! Report

                Mate, if its burnt you are doing it wrong, will sort it out for you on Saturday night. 🙂

        • Columnist

          March 22nd 2018 @ 10:10am
          Brett McKay said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:10am | ! Report

          To clarify – Digger has tipped the Lions. Corrections are a bit difficult with the panel, but the spreadsheet is correct..

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 4:03pm
            cuw said | March 22nd 2018 @ 4:03pm | ! Report

            it will take a brave man to tip on Jags.

            • Roar Guru

              March 22nd 2018 @ 6:18pm
              Nobrain said | March 22nd 2018 @ 6:18pm | ! Report

              The same brave man that tip the Tahs last weekend.

              • Roar Guru

                March 22nd 2018 @ 6:48pm
                Machooka said | March 22nd 2018 @ 6:48pm | ! Report

                Enough already… geez! 🙂

              • March 22nd 2018 @ 7:08pm
                cuw said | March 22nd 2018 @ 7:08pm | ! Report

                Chiefs:

                15 Marty McKenzie, 14 Toni Pulu, 13 Anton Lienert-Brown, 12 Johnny Faauli, 11 Solomon Alaimalo, 10 Damian McKenzie, 9 Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi,

                8 Taleni Seu, 7 Sam Cane, 6 Lachlan Boshier, 5 Tyler Ardron, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Angus Ta’avao, 2 Nathan Harris, 1 Aidan Ross

                Replacements:

                16 Liam Polwart, 17 Karl Tu’inukaufe, 18 Jeff Thwaites, 19 Michael Allardice, 20 Mitchell Karpik, 21 Brad Weber, 22 Sean Wainui, 23 Bailyn Sullivan

                Sunwolves:

                15 Ryuji Noguchi, 14 Kotaro Matsushima, 13 Timothy Lafaele, 12 Michael Little, 11 Hosea Saumaki, 10 Yu Tamura, 9 Fumiaki Tanaka,

                8 Willem Britz (c), 7 Edward Quirk, 6 Michael Leitch, 5 Uwe Helu, 4 Kazuki Himeno, 3 Hencus van Wyk, 2 Shota Horie, 1 Keita Inagaki

                Replacements:

                16 Yusuke Niwai, 17 Craig Millar, 18 Jiwon Koo, 19 Wimpie van der Walt, 20 Yoshitaka Tokunaga, 21 Yutaka Nagare, 22 Robbie Robinson, 23 William Tupou

                Date: Saturday, March 24

                Venue: Prince Chichibu Memorial Stadium

                Kick-off: 13:15 local (04:15 GMT)

                Referee: William Houston (Australia)

                Assistant referees: Aki Aso (Japan), Tasuku Kawahara (Japan)

                TMO: Minoru Fuji (Japan)

    • Roar Guru

      March 22nd 2018 @ 9:07am
      Machooka said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:07am | ! Report

      Good mornings/ evenings gentlemen… and many thanks for your tipping spin.

      Brett… no REDs had a job to do, and didn’t they just do that eh! 😉

      Harry… as blindfolded as you profess to be I don’t think fondling Shorks is the way to go?

      Nobrain… ‘Beats me.’ No sir… only you, only you can do that, and only if the urge grabs you. 🙂

      Digger… it’s time for the orcas to go plenty full tilt!

      DrP… Vlady good.

      Sure thing; those magnificent loveable Tahs are a cert to go back to back with no loss!

    • March 22nd 2018 @ 9:44am
      jameswm said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:44am | ! Report

      Only one game splitting the panel – unanimous on the rest.

      • Roar Guru

        March 22nd 2018 @ 9:51am
        Nobrain said | March 22nd 2018 @ 9:51am | ! Report

        Nop, Harry is tipping the Sharks.

        • Roar Guru

          March 22nd 2018 @ 10:12am
          Harry Jones said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:12am | ! Report

          The Shorks will rise.

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 10:43am
            Cliff (Bishkek) said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:43am | ! Report

            The fondling confused me!!!

        • March 22nd 2018 @ 11:11am
          jameswm said | March 22nd 2018 @ 11:11am | ! Report

          correct…

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 4:06pm
            cuw said | March 22nd 2018 @ 4:06pm | ! Report

            HARRY lost his medicine – tipping not only Sharks but also Jags. a very brave man 😀

            • March 22nd 2018 @ 5:04pm
              Rugby Tragic said | March 22nd 2018 @ 5:04pm | ! Report

              Nah .. he is chasing tails in the pecking order … he is pinning his hopes on a couple of upsets… *S*

              • March 22nd 2018 @ 5:54pm
                Jameswm said | March 22nd 2018 @ 5:54pm | ! Report

                Usually a recipe for disaster. But early to be panicking isn’t it Harry?

              • March 22nd 2018 @ 6:40pm
                cuw said | March 22nd 2018 @ 6:40pm | ! Report

                that is a bit desperate – so early in the game….

    • March 22nd 2018 @ 10:17am
      Targa said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:17am | ! Report

      So you are all picking the only unbeaten side in the comp to lose!?! Go the mighty Highlanders. If we can win this and knock over the returning Chiefs it will be looking pretty good south of the Waitaki.

      • March 22nd 2018 @ 11:36am
        Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 11:36am | ! Report

        Well of course I am Targa.

        Dunno bout the rest of them though 😂

      • Columnist

        March 22nd 2018 @ 12:31pm
        Brett McKay said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:31pm | ! Report

        We all (bar Nobes) got burnt by the Rebels last week…

        (And in my defence, I’ve said everything I possibly can in the Highlanders’ favour except actually tip them!)

        • Roar Guru

          March 22nd 2018 @ 3:18pm
          Timbo (L) said | March 22nd 2018 @ 3:18pm | ! Report

          Needed a long range weather forecast to pick that one.

      • March 22nd 2018 @ 1:50pm
        Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 1:50pm | ! Report

        True there Targa, & it really shows, that those North of the Waitaki, don’t understand the true Lander spirit!! LOL!!

    • March 22nd 2018 @ 10:20am
      Rugby Tragic said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:20am | ! Report

      Thanks Brett and panel …

      R5 was not easy… so many upsets … (well they were upsets according to me – I didn’t pick them!), is R6 harder or easier. I see the panel is mostly in unison in 4 of the 6 games … interesting!

      Saders will win (they surely will not lose 3 in a row?) but in my multi I’ll be taking the Bulls with 20.5 start … a reasonable leveler I thought!

      Rebels got a timely wake up call being touched up by the Tahs last week and they have much stiffer tasks ahead but not against the Sharks who, at least to me, don’t seem too interested just yet … someone should tell them the comp has started ..

      Now the Chiefs on paper and form I think should take the poor Sunwolves apart so have to take them to win and the power play … but … but … looking at a line bet as part of multi +24.5 … undecided yet …*S*

      Digger ‘by plenty’ mob on their home patch to ‘edge out the Highlanders by a little’, but some great match ups there in the back three and halfbacks… Really looking forward to this game!

      Stormers ‘by plenty’ is this weeks mantra in fact I reckon 13+ on the travel wary Reds and finally on Sunday morning ……..

      Jaguares upset the Lions 2nd 23 in 2016, a loss that cost the Lions home ground advantage for the final. I don’t think that the Lions are firing as well as when Ackermann was in charge and the much criticised and disappointing Jaguares are due to put one together … so … I’ll go them.

      The Sure thing .. – Blues will not lose this week!

      Good luck guys …

      A side note .. I read that a Christchurch Primary school has taken Rugby off the agenda for at least this year following a severe concussion of a student last year. The link is .. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/102455611/christchurchs-waitkiri-primary-school-cans-winter-rugby-after-severe-concussion

      I wonder what impact this will have on other schools in NZ and elsewhere…

      • Roar Guru

        March 22nd 2018 @ 10:30am
        Machooka said | March 22nd 2018 @ 10:30am | ! Report

        Should be an absolute cracker at the Cake Tin eh Tragic… yummy scrummy stuff.

        And hopefully no maul thingies to have to spit out… yuck! 😉

      • Columnist

        March 22nd 2018 @ 11:01am
        Geoff Parkes said | March 22nd 2018 @ 11:01am | ! Report

        It’s a major problem for the game now RT and looming as an even bigger challenge in coming years – despite all of the good work being done to prevent and manage concussion.

        Schools have issues around non rugby people seeing this as an opportunity to knock the game down a peg, as well as genuine concerns around liability and health outcomes.

        There will be interesting and fiery debates around this issue to follow. At the end of the day, if one kid falls off his bike does that mean all kids should be banned from riding to school? Society will need to settle on what is an acceptable level of risk as trade-off for active participation, but all indications are that there is a growing voice that would like to see the line shifted further backwards.

        • March 22nd 2018 @ 12:01pm
          Rugby Tragic said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

          Yes I am aware we discussed this earlier too. The article highlights where it is possible for a 35kg kid has to tackle a 100kg kid (words from the article not from me), also something we diccessed about team selections based on weight rather than age etc (which opens up another raft of issues).

          Then we read about the neurologist in London want rugby to be banned as a sport all together (pretty sure that won’t happen).

          Anyhow, apologies, link was mentioned as an article for anyone who might be interested, not to convert a panel tipping discussion

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 12:56pm
            Phil said | March 22nd 2018 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

            RT,of course it is an issue,especially for the kids with the often mismatches in size,which should be addressed.However,reactions like from the London doctor are very much over reactions.What about banning boxing first,where the idea is to actually attack the head?Then next should be soccer,where you use the head to attack the ball.

            • March 23rd 2018 @ 1:02am
              Rugby Tragic said | March 23rd 2018 @ 1:02am | ! Report

              Don’t worry Phil, the medical fraternity also want boxing banned.

              That would make more sense to me than rugby. With the pugilistic sport, as you rightly suggest, it is the intention to harm an opponent seeking to ‘concuss’ or knock opponents out.

              I am not sure that the on going health issues following concussions are fully known but we must certainly protect our future, the leaders of the future which are our younger generation today.

              I certainly do not advocate withdrawing Rugby from schools but the huge imbalances of physical attributes defined in the article should be addressed.

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 2:05pm
            Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:05pm | ! Report

            Hi RT,
            Yeh mate, isn’t there still weight for age group rugby, being played for kids in NZ, like the old days? It really is the way to introduce young kids to the game, instead of this straight out age group, way of bringing kids into the game. IMO, parents are only asking for trouble, by playing their kids in age group, due to, as we know, some kids develop quicker than other kids the same age. Cheers.

        • March 22nd 2018 @ 1:58pm
          Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 1:58pm | ! Report

          Yeh Geoff, I do remember a couple of seasons ago, the the Otago Uni,did a study that included players from the ITM cup squad, whilst they were playing. I never heard the results of that study, & I was wondering, if those results from that time we’re looked upon by World Rugby. Do you, know anything about that part of the issue, mate? Cheers.

          • Columnist

            March 22nd 2018 @ 2:34pm
            Geoff Parkes said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:34pm | ! Report

            If you’re asking about the studies I did at Otago Uni Muzzo, most of them were scientific experiments centered around the Captain Cook Hotel and the Dunedin Rugby Club, re the effects of alcohol impairment on cognitive development and physical performance!

            No, I’m not aware of any particular study from there, but there are plenty from all around the world, including some well known work from Scotland. All of which has been taken very seriously by WR and has helped shape many of the law variations and HIA protocols we see today.

            • March 22nd 2018 @ 2:38pm
              Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:38pm | ! Report

              No Geoff, at the time, those tests I was referring to, was actually based around concussion injuries. It was at least a couple of seasons, or so ago mate.

      • Roar Guru

        March 22nd 2018 @ 2:23pm
        Diggercane said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:23pm | ! Report

        The issue for me here is clear RT, rugby shouldn’t be a sport in Primary and should be the sole domain of the clubs.

        Mismatches are so much more likely at Primary where numbers can be an issue and often teams can be thrown together, little training etc.

        Rugby should be the domain for the clubs up until Highschool in my view where the troops can be marshalled effectively.

        Am all for bulrush though, that’s fine 😉

        • Roar Rookie

          March 22nd 2018 @ 2:24pm
          piru said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:24pm | ! Report

          Am all for bulrush though, that’s fine

          +1

          • March 22nd 2018 @ 2:35pm
            Muzzo said | March 22nd 2018 @ 2:35pm | ! Report

            Well, mate, tiddilly winks, has been suggested!! Lol.

        • March 23rd 2018 @ 1:04am
          Rugby Tragic said | March 23rd 2018 @ 1:04am | ! Report

          Digger, I’ve requested of you so many times now, stop making sense mate! 😬

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        March 22nd 2018 @ 8:16pm
        Brett McKay said | March 22nd 2018 @ 8:16pm | ! Report

        RT, for what it’s worth, I don’t think there’s as many upsets this week as loomed last week. Just doesn’t have that same feel about it…

        (Cue Highlanders, Moondogs, Reds, and Jaguares all winning well 😆 )

        • March 23rd 2018 @ 1:14am
          Rugby Tragic said | March 23rd 2018 @ 1:14am | ! Report

          Brett, I agree that last week required very special
          tipping skills to come close to ‘picking the card’, this week looks much more straight forward, and that’s a worry!

          Regardless these tipping series are a lot of fun to read others views of how they think the games are going to go. For that I thank you … long may it continue.

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