The confusing thing about A-League expansion

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    Like most A-League fans, I am eagerly anticipating expansion and what it will bring to the domestic game. Will the league look to new horizons and create clubs from scratch or will they re-write history and bring in clubs from the NSL’s heydays?

    In October we will all know.

    One of the biggest obstacles is diluting the existing fan-bases of current clubs. While most new bidders say they won’t do this, the reality is they will, with how much so the key question.

    I’m a Wanderers fan with Melbourne City being my second team, however, with potential new teams in Campbelltown (where I grew up) and Geelong (where I lived for five years) provokes thought.

    If the ‘United for Macarthur’ Campbelltown bid gets up, would I ditch the Wanderers? What about Geelong? A region I spent five of the best years of my life of which the soccer community was a major part.

    No, I could never ditch my Wanderers! Heck, I have been a member since inception, even though I lived interstate, and have been to every away ground the Wanderers have just to show my commitment. I even planned a trip to Japan and South Korea in 2014 based around the successful ACL campaign.

    Melbourne City will always be owned by Manchester City – my Premier League team – so that won’t change either. I guess Campbelltown or Geelong will be teams I simply have a passing interest in and a bit of a soft spot.

    What about other fans? Many Geelong football fans follow Victory or City, will they abandon them if a home team comes in? In a recent survey conducted by The Wanderful Game (60 votes), 34 per cent of fans said they will stick to City or Victory, whereas the majority said they would jump ship and support their local club. When the time comes though, will that really be possible? Emotions are a powerful thing.

    What about Southern Expansion? Sydney FC claim 30-35 per cent of their members are based in southern Sydney. Southern Expansion seem like a shoe-in for one of the two available licences, the club has an impressive bid with a huge catchment area, and plenty of financial clout. Sydney FC struggle for loyal fans at the best of times, so it will be interesting to see how many will leave and join Southern if they come into the competition.

    ‘Team 11’ or South East Melbourne will be based in a region of 1.2 million people, with dozens of local clubs in their catchment area. Importantly, they plan to play in Dandenong, rather than AAMI Park, indicating a bit of differentiation to City and Victory. They will have geographic identity, something Melbourne City have lacked since they came into the competition in 2010.

    The question is how many fans in the Dandenong-Casey region already follow Victory or City? City for sure cannot afford to lose fans. Will Team 11 have more members than City when they come in? It’s a high chance.

    As for South Melbourne, they have a storied history. The Oceania team of the 20th Century have a solid financial base, a home ground, and a great football pedigree. The problem is they represent a bygone era, something the A-League was supposed to move Australian football away from.

    However their case is compelling. The club have a strong youth and female program, two vital criterion for obtaining a licence. But a large number of South Melbourne people are Victory fans, so is it a good move to take members away from one of the most powerful clubs?

    No doubt South will create a strong rivalry with Victory right away, even more significant than the Victory-City derby. The confusion among these Victory-South fans must be mind boggling, considering they are Victorian and struggle in that capacity anyway.

    It is both exciting and confusing, but ultimately our beautiful game will benefit.

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    • May 1st 2018 @ 3:17am
      Janakan Seemampillai said | May 1st 2018 @ 3:17am | ! Report

      Interesting scenario. I have a friend who is a Brisbane Roar fan but if the Strikers come in, he may change as He lives 10 minutes from Perry Park.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 6:06am
        LuckyEddie said | May 1st 2018 @ 6:06am | ! Report

        If he lives 10 minutes from Perry Park he would only be about 20 minutes from Suncorp. Strange way for him to change alliegance. What if he moves closer to Suncorp in the future?

    • May 1st 2018 @ 5:32am
      punter said | May 1st 2018 @ 5:32am | ! Report

      I’m confused after reading this article.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 8:14am
        Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:14am | ! Report

        Me too Punter. Left my head spinning like Matt Simon’s eyes as he goes into a tackle

        • May 1st 2018 @ 8:18am
          punter said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:18am | ! Report

          Fad, enjoy the GF this weekend, I’ll be cheering on the jets, can’t stand Victory.
          I’m slowly getting over not being in the GF.

          • May 1st 2018 @ 9:27am
            Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 9:27am | ! Report

            Thanks Punter, I shall. Saw a few Jets hats on the school drop off this morning. Getting excited!

    • May 1st 2018 @ 5:36am
      Don said | May 1st 2018 @ 5:36am | ! Report

      The idea of ditching a team you’ve supported for years just because a shiny new one comes along is probably outrageous to most genuine sports fans. It’s like abandoning your kids because something more interesting came along.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 6:28am
        Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 6:28am | ! Report

        It’s just A league remember Don

        • May 1st 2018 @ 7:56am
          Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 7:56am | ! Report

          It’s just A league

          That should be the Ffa slogan

        • May 1st 2018 @ 8:16am
          Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:16am | ! Report

          Thoughts on McGree’s scorpion being viewed more times than the entire AFL season combined Janakan?

          • May 1st 2018 @ 8:45am
            Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:45am | ! Report

            You all are funny 😂😂😂😂 since you mention AFL, you do realise Richmond on their own almost eclipse the entire a league in terms of members 😂😂😂 now now you bring the afl up so I will run with it

            • May 1st 2018 @ 8:55am
              chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:55am | ! Report

              Why don’t you write any AFL articles Jankan? I’ve just had a look at the articles you’ve written previously and they are all on football.
              It doesn’t take you long to start bashing football because a genuine poster on the football tab calls you out for the fake that you are.
              Were you not picked in a football team when you were a kid and you took up AFL?
              Whats with the angst?

            • May 1st 2018 @ 9:33am
              Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 9:33am | ! Report

              An AFL fan writing articles in the football tab. I used “article” loosely.

              Your “it’s just ALeague” comment is bizarre. Why attempt, and fail, to write a coherent tale about a competition you treat with such contempt?

              One goal scored by “just an A-league” player gets more coverage worldwide than an entire season of AFL. I can see why that throws you into a rage. AFL has spend millions on trying to get 10% of that publicity. And failed.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 10:17am
                Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 10:17am | ! Report

                It’s just A league

                Love it 😊

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:27am
                Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:27am | ! Report

                Hahahaha the fact you have to talk nonsense speaks volumes about you guys. Although ur pretty much on the level, with a chip on both shoulders.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:30am
                chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:30am | ! Report

                KJ I like your suggestion that it should be the A-League motto.
                Short, sharp and to the point “It’s just A-League”.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:33am
                chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:33am | ! Report

                …and then que visuals of McGrees scorpion, Nabbouts outrageous outside of the foot goal, Ninkos mazey dribble and goal etc etc.
                We need some music….

            • May 1st 2018 @ 12:18pm
              Post_hoc said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:18pm | ! Report

              I think it’s nice that richmond include all those cats and dogs in their membership numbers, very inclusive

              • Roar Guru

                May 1st 2018 @ 6:23pm
                The_Wookie said | May 1st 2018 @ 6:23pm | ! Report

                Its also not true.

              • May 2nd 2018 @ 6:23am
                Janakan said | May 2nd 2018 @ 6:23am | ! Report

                @post hoc so are you saying that there are more pet members in the afl than human members of the A league hahahaha that is just embarrassing lol maybe the A league

              • May 2nd 2018 @ 7:42am
                punter said | May 2nd 2018 @ 7:42am | ! Report

                The big J, the A-League is a small football competition on the other side of the world to the bigger competitions, however, it’s bigger then any other Aussies rules competition outside of the AFL anywhere in the world by a fairly long way.

              • May 2nd 2018 @ 8:11am
                Post_hoc said | May 2nd 2018 @ 8:11am | ! Report

                Janakana

                I don’t know, but I suspect not many of those pets attend games, so what’s the point of them?

                Then again you could say the same thing about GWS and Gold Coast, what’s the point of them.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 11:14am
        Kris said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:14am | ! Report

        Heidelberg, Morwell (Gippsland, Easten), Collngwood, Carlton, South Melbourne, Victory, Heart, Victory. 8 teams in 30 years (at least) and no doubt more to come. Life in Melbourne.

        • May 1st 2018 @ 11:24am
          Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:24am | ! Report

          Footscray
          Melbourne knight
          Preston
          Green gully
          Sunshine George cross
          Mooralbark
          Brunswick
          All former nsl teams too I believe

    • May 1st 2018 @ 7:15am
      Rolly said | May 1st 2018 @ 7:15am | ! Report

      Again another article on expansion and another snub of the south coast of NSW and the Wollongong wolves with no mention of a south coast team which has submitted its proposal to FFA .so we are all happy to see southern Sydney fc be accepted becuase they have money and money alone who are right on the door step of Sydney fc and share the same fan base some 30% of Sydney fans are based in the same catchment area of this new Sydney franchise but would not even entertain one of the biggest soccer nurseries in the country and a team that already has every thing in place is NSW third largest city to join the A league the junior set up a catchment area of half a million a women’s team a ground that is perfect for football all ready to go we don’t need to build a new ground we already have one in WIN stadium and community support just like Newcastle deserves ts own team so does a huge soccer region like Wollongong and the south coast .the league need to grow to 16 teams to gain national acceptance even 12 teams isn’t enough to maintain growth especially if its the same markets that new teams are sourced .

      • May 1st 2018 @ 7:28am
        punter said | May 1st 2018 @ 7:28am | ! Report

        It’s not an article on expansion, it’s an article on the confusion of someone who gets confused easily & confuses others.

        I once supported Richmond as I stay there for 2 days as kid, then Sydney Swans became Sydney’s team & I was confused, to add further confusion, I once had a big Mac in Homebush & when the Giants came in I was more confused.
        But then I realised it’s only the AFL.

        • May 1st 2018 @ 7:33am
          chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 7:33am | ! Report

          lol…this authors hatred of the A-League only takes a few comments for him to reveal his true colours. I couldn’t be bothered reading it but I’m assuming lots of “lols” and “you su ck big time” from him throughout the day.

          • May 1st 2018 @ 9:36am
            Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 9:36am | ! Report

            Ha! Hit the nail on the head Chris. By the end of the day he’ll lose any grammatical correctness he ever had and will be shouting “this is why youse will never by popular in Astraya!!! Ha ha, lol lol lol. YOU SUCK. LOL!”

            • May 1st 2018 @ 10:46am
              Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 10:46am | ! Report

              @Chris and @Fadida are you the same person hahaha like I said saying i hate soccer is just childish hahahahaha stop sooking and accept that you guys aren’t kings over the universe

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:04am
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:04am | ! Report

                And so it begins

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:11am
                Nemesis said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:11am | ! Report

                @janakan

                Seriously. How old are you? I normally ignore your articles, but decided to read & respond today.

                If you’re just a kid, fine. I’ll cut you some slack.

                If you’re an adult.. you need help.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:13am
                chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:13am | ! Report

                lol Fad I think you’re right.
                Who’s turn is it to be “king of the universe” today? You or me?

              • May 1st 2018 @ 11:34am
                Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 11:34am | ! Report

                Hahahahaha funny how you know it alls get so sensitive when you haven’t got a clue about the real world. Your all the type that say I’d rather have 5000 real fans at the game than 15,000 actual fans. Then when the club goes broke you wonder what happened 😂😂😂 get with the times gentleman, the AFL does and it’s a hugely successful code

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:10pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

                It it hugely successful. In Australia. I suggest you write about that instead.

                We’ll talk about McGree’s scorpion, something seen by more people than AFL and the other codes entire season’s combined.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:14pm
                Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:14pm | ! Report

                We are in Aus aren’t we?

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:19pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:19pm | ! Report

                We are in Asia, and the world. A footballer in Australia scores a screamer, the whole world sees it. And loves it. A AFL player does something “courageous” or spectacular, people in a few states of a small country see it.

                How’s that for having “a clue about the real world”?

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:20pm
                Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

                Like I care what the world sees, I worry what I see 😂😂😂

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:33pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:33pm | ! Report

                You won’t see much with uneducated blinkers on mate. Living in a bedroom at your mum’s might decrease your horizons too

              • May 1st 2018 @ 1:06pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

                Can those who watch AFL too, Kanga and Angry Kossie, let me know when an AFLer kicks the ball when it’s in the air and the commentators yell “he’s gone the McGree scorpion!!”? They will for sure, because everyone saw it Janakan. Global cut hrough for the A-league.

                I’m pretty confident no one in eastern Europe is jumping up for a header yelling “Cazaly!”

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:07pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

                Your turn Chris. I’ll do tomorrow

              • May 1st 2018 @ 12:20pm
                Post_hoc said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

                Janakan, you might be ‘just’ in Australia, but we are Global baby.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 2:52pm
                Janakan said | May 1st 2018 @ 2:52pm | ! Report

                Hahaha some of you don’t care who goes to A league and are happy with poor crowds yet you bang on about the Aleague goals being shown around Asia and the world hahahahaha

              • May 1st 2018 @ 4:13pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 4:13pm | ! Report

                (apologies Adelaide Docker for the following)

                So Janakan, you previously said that because soccer was low scoring and boring it lead to crowd trouble. Your suggestion was to make soccer a cross between AFL and the BBL. Can you explain then in the last couple of weeks big fights in the crowd at a Richmond game, a huge punch up between Collingwood fans, serious violence at the Hawks v St Kilda game in Launceston, fans scuffling over the burning of a shirt after the WA Derby?

                Do you need to make the goals even bigger so there is even more scoring? More fireworks, KFC buckets in heads etc.

                What’s going on here?

              • Roar Guru

                May 1st 2018 @ 3:02pm
                AdelaideDocker said | May 1st 2018 @ 3:02pm | ! Report

                Ooooh boy.

                If I ever annoy you guys as much as this Janakan guy does, I’ve gotta say I’m so sorry.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 4:07pm
                Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 4:07pm | ! Report

                I love your input AD. You are more balanced that most football fans. Me included.

              • May 1st 2018 @ 3:51pm
                Post_hoc said | May 1st 2018 @ 3:51pm | ! Report

                AD, not sure you ever could, you don’t have that sort of personality. You might rub people the wrong way on a topic, but you don’t appear to go out of your way to just be an immature prat.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 7:57am
        Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 7:57am | ! Report

        Rolly

        I will drive the 5 hours to get to Wollongong first game in the A league mate

      • May 1st 2018 @ 8:21am
        Fadida said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:21am | ! Report

        Fullstops are like goalkeepers, you can’t do without them. Fullstop

      • May 1st 2018 @ 8:37am
        PA21 said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:37am | ! Report

        Rolly,

        You sound like a SFC fan. Just relax man!

        32% of Sydney FC’s members are from the Southern Sydney region. So out of your 15,000 members, not even 5,000 of them are from the South. If your fans are loyal enough I don’t think they will abandon you…

        I love football, but being from the St George area, have never attached myself to Sydney FC because they don’t represent my area.

        It’s funny that SFC fan claim to represent all of Sydney, yet they only just announced recently that they will play some home games at Kogarah Oval next season, only because Allianz will be renovated…. great timing that is!

        • May 1st 2018 @ 9:13am
          Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 9:13am | ! Report

          Rolly is a Wollongong fan I believe

          I support the Wollongong stand alone bid

          • May 1st 2018 @ 10:09am
            PA21 said | May 1st 2018 @ 10:09am | ! Report

            Kangajets I am also for the Wollongong stand alone bid. Being from the St.George area I would prefer there to be a separate Wollongong team and St George/Sutherland team, but I will take whatever I can get!

            If Southern Expansion were unsuccessful in winning a license, and a stand alone Wolves won a license, I would rather support the Wolves than SFC.

          • May 1st 2018 @ 10:00pm
            Redondo said | May 1st 2018 @ 10:00pm | ! Report

            The Gong is so not Sydney it has to be a standalone team. All my family are from the Gong and it’s a wonderfully different world down there. I’ll go to Wollongong games (as well as Sydney’s) if their bid gets up.

        • May 1st 2018 @ 9:04pm
          Rolly said | May 1st 2018 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

          Wolves fan since their inception even went to watch their two NSL grand finals flew to Perth to watch one heck of a grand final one of the best sporting moments in Australian sporting history .i do take my kids to Sydney fc games but wolves fan first .be great to see them back in the top league .a club with great history and great following. And32% of Sydney fc members reside in the st George area that true .makes sense for a Wollongong standalone team .

    • Roar Guru

      May 1st 2018 @ 8:21am
      Grobbelaar said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:21am | ! Report

      Apart from Simon HIll, I never realised there were Manchester City fans in Australia.

      • May 1st 2018 @ 10:08am
        punter said | May 1st 2018 @ 10:08am | ! Report

        You need to get out of Footscray once in a while.

        • May 1st 2018 @ 12:15pm
          Nemesis said | May 1st 2018 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

          “You need to get out of Footscray once in a while.”

          That definitely is a comment for to be stored & savoured.

          Brilliant!

      • May 1st 2018 @ 1:11pm
        Caltex & SBS support Australian Football said | May 1st 2018 @ 1:11pm | ! Report

        I bought my first home from a Man City supporter (Englishman) living in the St George district in Sydney back in 1979. I had a discussion with him about Manchester’s football supporters and he was adamant that there were more Manchester folk who followed City than there were those who followed United living in Manchester.

        • May 1st 2018 @ 1:52pm
          chris said | May 1st 2018 @ 1:52pm | ! Report

          Caltex I’ve heard that too from different sources. 60-40 split?
          Globally its no contest though

    • May 1st 2018 @ 8:27am
      Kangajets said | May 1st 2018 @ 8:27am | ! Report

      I lived in west Australia for a while,

      I stayed a Newcastle fan

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