Who is next for Anthony Mundine?

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    Aussie boxing legend Anthony Mundine proved in January after his stunning knockout of Tommy Browne after on two rounds that he is not quite done in the ring just yet.

    So who is next for the great man who has singlehandedly ignited the sport of boxing in this country to heights never seen before?

    As it stands now, three men could be the next contender for Mundine: Jeff Horn, Tim Tszyu and Dave Toussaint.

    Ever since the rise of Jeff Horn last year, after he defeated Manny Pacquiao for the WBO welterweight championship, Mundine has been wanting a bout with Horn. Horn did call out Mundine when he was an upcomer in 2016, which Mundine laughed off, but now he chases Horn for one final big payday before his inevitable retirement.

    This bout will all depend on the outcome of Horn’s bout with Terence Crawford. If Horn loses, he will most likely use Mundine as a rebound fight for a $2 million payday. If he wins, Mundine will have no chance. Thankfully he has backup plans.

    Just recently Tim Tszyu, son of Kostya Tszyu, the most successful boxer Australia has ever had, called out Mundine via video challenging him to a fight. Tszyu wants to use the name of his father and Mundine to promote an intergeneration fight between the pair to end the reign of Mundine and ignite his own career.

    Ironically enough, Mundine replaced Tszyu’s father as the best known and successful boxer in the country after Kostya’s retirement. With Tim only having a pro record of 8-0 with no world title around his waist, it’s very unlikely that the pair will ever get in the ring, but its possible.

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    Another possibility for Mundine is Canberra boxer Dave Toussaint. Toussaint boasts and decent upcoming record of 13-0 and is the current Australian and Australasian middleweight champion.

    Toussaint captured the Australasian title after defeating Gunnar Jackson, who went the distance with Mundine back in 2014. Fellow Aussie boxing world champion Daniel Geale backs Toussaint to one day become a world champion in his own right.

    Toussaint’s camp has indicated that they would take a fight with Mundine “in a heartbeat“.

    Boxing promoter Dean Lonergan, who promotes Jeff Horn, said that it would be one-way traffic, with Mundine hitting the canvas quickly if the pair were to ever get into the ring. Lonergan also questions if Mundine ‘has the balls” to take the fight with Toussaint.

    Lonergan looks to be using Toussaint as a distraction for Mundine not to continue to pursue Horn, as he believes that Toussaint’s promoter, Nick Boutzos has the resources and ability to stage a fight in Canberra.

    Boxing is a funny sport where pretty much anything can happen, so all of these fights are possible; it’s just a matter of money and who Mundine would gain the most benefit from fighting.

    So it’s quite simple, using the famous catchphrase from famous WCW wrestler Bill Goldberg, “Who’s next?”.

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    • May 21st 2018 @ 7:07am
      i miss the force said | May 21st 2018 @ 7:07am | ! Report

      Mundine didnt single handedly ignite boxing in this country

    • Roar Guru

      May 21st 2018 @ 8:14am
      BigJ said | May 21st 2018 @ 8:14am | ! Report

      Yeah he did, before Mundine hit the scene and even with Kostya Tsyzu in is prime boxing was a small sport barely mentioned in the sports section or maybe a 30 highlight reel on the news. Now thanks to Mundine boxing is front page news and he made the careers of Green, Geale, Soliman, Wood and now Horn and even kept an old pug like Jeff Fenech relevant. Without Mundine boxing would even get a mention in this country.

      • May 21st 2018 @ 10:15am
        Davico said | May 21st 2018 @ 10:15am | ! Report

        Quote: “So who is next for the great man who has singlehandedly ignited the sport of boxing in this country to heights never seen before?”

        Absolute Rubbish!!

        The days of Lionel Rose, Johnny Famechon, Jeff Fenech etc etc were all far bigger for boxing and if the same media/social media coverage was around Mundine would barely be a blip on the Radar when it comes to Boxing in this country.

        Also “Aussie Boxing Legend”?????? Don’t make me laugh!

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          May 21st 2018 @ 11:57am
          Jason Andrews said | May 21st 2018 @ 11:57am | ! Report

          That was in boxing’s golden age of Muhammad Ali where any boxer got attention that had a world title and Fenech was during the Tyson years. Fast forward forty years and the sport is almost dead. It took Mundine to bring the sport back into the lime light and give it new heights nice seen since the Ali days. People in the street know who Mundine is but how many would know or remember Fenech, Horn, Geale, Green or Soliman.?? The only reason that anybody cares about Tim Tsyzu or Dave Toussaint I because they want to use Mundine’s name to get their careers noticed

          • May 21st 2018 @ 1:36pm
            Davico said | May 21st 2018 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

            Don’t know where to start with this post?

            Let’s go from the beginning!

            – Boxing in Australia was huge both before and after the Ali era, especially before if you bother to read up on any sort of history or have spoken to anyone in your life who would now be over about 60!

            – Fenech’s best days were not during the Tyson Era, I know, I was at plenty of his fights! Fact he trained Tyson not give that away???

            – Fights in the country were regularly shown on Prime time TV during the 60s and 70s. When was the last time you saw a fight on 2,7,9,10???

            – What people in the street are you talking about? I travel around the country extensively and nobody in the states bar NSW or Qld who are not right into boxing have a clue who Mundine is!

            – Who know who Fenech is? Really? Am assuming you are 25 at this point and a Mundine fan boy. Horn got more publicity from that 1 fight against MP around the WHOLE of Australia than Mundine has ever had for his boxing ability.

            – People care about Tim Tsyzu because he has his fathers name and is a young fighter who has KO power. Him calling out Mundine is just an added bonus.

            – I will give you Toussaint wanting to make a name in NSW and Qld by calling out Mundine.

            • Roar Pro

              May 21st 2018 @ 3:33pm
              Jason Andrews said | May 21st 2018 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

              Well how to answer this, well ok.
              For starters Fenech’s most famous fight was in 1991 when he took on Azmah Nelson for the WBC Super-featherweight title and was brutally robbed of the victory. This of course was the undercard fight to the Tyson v Ruddock fight where even Tyson said Fenech won, so you must of missed that one.
              Boxing was popular in the 60;s and 70’s because the footy was not mainstream yet and its one of the oldest sports around. Ever heard of pay tv, in the mid 90’s pay tv come along and took boxing away from free to air television. Please name me one aussie boxer during the Kostya Tsyzu era that got one tenth of the attention he did??? Fenech and Kostya were only interested in fight overseas (fair enough more money) but made little effort to have big fights in Australia, where Mundine made his whole career in this Australia and built the boxing foundation in the process.
              I’m 37 that’s how I know who Fenech is, ask anybody under thirty that has no boxing knowledge and they would have no clue who he is, but I’ll bet they know you Mundine is. What bars are you hanging out in that following boxing that don’t know who Mundine is? Are you using a timewarp back to the 60’s??
              Horn got lucky, if he fought anybody bar Pacquiao that fight would of not even got notice, 90% of that 51000 at Suncorp were there to see the PACMAN not our aussie boy.
              Tsyzu stated that he wanted to use his father’s and Mundine’s name to get a fight with Mundine. Plus he used Mundine’s second fight with Mundine to get noticed as he was on the undercard.

              • Roar Guru

                May 21st 2018 @ 7:23pm
                BigJ said | May 21st 2018 @ 7:23pm | ! Report

                Davico, you sound like you don’t have a clue what your on about. No one is this country had any interest in boxing after the retirement of fenech til Mundine came along and every man and his dog has been using Mundine’s name to get noticed ever since. Green, Geale, Soliman, Wood (especially wood considering that Aussie boxing contender tv show) were all nobodies until they fought or started a rivalry with Choc. Would Green of been as successful had he never fought or rivalled with Choc, no don’t think so. Geale probably would of been successful regardless but no one would’ve noticed or cared. Soliman was in the same boat as Geale and Wood 100 percent piggy backed off Choc’s name to get his career. The only reason anyone still remembers fenech is because he has bickered with Choc since his first fight in 2000 and picky back off anyone he can just to remain relevant.

                Horn was a nobody until he fought Pac-Man and as Jason said that crowd was 90 percent there to watch Pacquiao not Horn, it did matter who Pacquiso fought that day the crowd would of been just as big. If he fought Choc it would of been a sellout.

                So go back to your bars where you lot have no idea who Mundine is a watch the fights from 50 years ago, it sounds like your living in the past

              • May 23rd 2018 @ 11:28am
                Davico said | May 23rd 2018 @ 11:28am | ! Report

                Both Fenech and Kostya tried to bring big fights to Australia but could not as the big names were in the States and had no interest in fighting in Australia. (Much the same as most boxers over the years including Mundine and Horn apart from Manny).

                Mundine has not been able to get the big fights in the US or anywhere else for that matter and has since had to rely on using his footballing fame and outrageous comments about race and 9/11 to pump up the media for his fights against other Australians.

                He has stated constantly that he wants the BIG NAME opponents and BIG FIGHTS in the US! Where are they?

                The only reason most people have tuned in is to see him get knocked out!!

                Have a look at the PPV figures and where people are watching him! They are overwhelmingly in QLD and NSW.

                “What bars are you hanging out in that following boxing that don’t know who Mundine is? Are you using a timewarp back to the 60’s??”

                I said people who DON’T following boxing have no idea who he is outside of the RL states. Might want to read that again.

                Saying that Boxing was only big because footy was not mainstream??? Surely you jest? Have a look at crowd figures for footy from then compared to now!

                “– People care about Tim Tsyzu because he has his fathers name and is a young fighter who has KO power. Him calling out Mundine is just an added bonus.”

                So you agree with what I said!

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                May 23rd 2018 @ 11:54am
                Davico said | May 23rd 2018 @ 11:54am | ! Report

                BigJ,

                So no one had any interest in Kostya then? Pretty sure he fought between Fenech and Tsyzu and did not need outlandish comments to get people interested just beating the best fighters in the world!

                Green won World titles before he ever fought Choc.

                I agree that all those guys used Rivalries with Choc to raise their profile but who in boxing does not try to raise their profile by starting rivalries with other boxers????

                Mundine tried to do the same with Manny, Mayweather etc it’s just that they had no interest as he was small fry for them.

                I was at the Horn-Pac fight and I can assure you it was not 90% Manny fans. In any case Horn was actually able to get the big name fight he needed where as Choc could not.

                I have known Choc for years, and he is a good bloke when there is not a microphone in front of him, but trying to say he is some how the saviour of boxing in this country or is an Australian Boxing Legend is not only wrong, but it is a slap in the face to all the greats that have gone before him and other hard working boxers in the last 10 years.

              • Roar Guru

                May 23rd 2018 @ 1:28pm
                BigJ said | May 23rd 2018 @ 1:28pm | ! Report

                Davico People will also pay money to see the bad guy get beat up rather than the good guy win, hence Mundine and his stupid comments, for me turning his back on the national Anthem lost all my respect for him.

                You really need to do your research. In 2003 Green beat Eric Lucas in Canada 🇨🇦 for the WBC interim Super-Middleweight title with Fenech as his trainer. The interim title is not the full championship it’s like when a footy team wins the reserve grand final, not a big deal. Plus when Green did take on the real champ Marcus Beyer he was disqualified in the first fight for head butting and soundly defeated in the rematch. Green didn’t win a world title until 2007 when we beat Stipe Drews for the WBA light-heavyweight title 18 months after fighting Choc. Plus who are this hard working boxers you’re talking about over the last ten years, Geale, Soliman, waters?? All nobodies until the fought Choc. Finally you are correct in that fenech was a world champ before Tyson. Fenech won his first title the IBF bantamweight in 1985 were Tyson didn’t become champ until 1988 but they did both hold WBC titles at the same team, so don’t beat yourself up about that one. Have a nice day

              • Roar Pro

                May 23rd 2018 @ 2:55pm
                Davico said | May 23rd 2018 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

                BigJ,

                Trying to do it of the top of my head but just to name a few of the hard working boxers:

                Nader Hamden
                Vic Darchiyan
                Michael Katsidis
                Billy Dib
                Eddie Younan
                Lovemore
                Sakio Bika
                Paul Briggs
                Shannon Taylor

                and yes though you might dismiss them Geale, Soliman, Woods, the Waters brothers and many others.

                But yes call them nobodies as I am sure you would be more than capable of stepping up against anyone of them!

                Just to give you some perspective was living in the UK fought Graham Earl and it is one of the best fights you have ever scene. Mates in the UK still talk about MK and none of them have a clue who Choc is and the UK boxing market makes the aussie one look like a joke!

              • Roar Guru

                May 23rd 2018 @ 4:08pm
                BigJ said | May 23rd 2018 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

                What the sad thing is, is that all bar one of the names mentioned are/were legitimate fighters. Well Briggs was until Green dragged him into the ring. Hamden fought Choc for the WBA title, Bika did something that Choc never did won a world title in the USA but held in for two seconds which was sad for him but he’s still an active fighter. Dib is looking for another title shot in July so let’s hope that happens. Lovemore was an awesome fighter but never got the attention he deserved. Didn’t Taylor fight Choc as well?? The problem with most Aussie fighters is that they are in the smaller division and are always undercard to an middleweight, cruiserweight or heavyweight fight. When is the last time you saw featherweight title headline a ppv event by an Aussie champ. Ellis v Michael is the last one a can think of and that wasn’t a ppv event. Plus at 102 kgs and a former boxer myself I think I’ll coukd of takem most if not all of them no problem.

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                May 23rd 2018 @ 3:16pm
                Davico said | May 23rd 2018 @ 3:16pm | ! Report

                Should read was in the UK WHEN MK fought GE

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                May 24th 2018 @ 12:03am
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 12:03am | ! Report

                BigJ,

                You seem to be confusing the state of Australian boxing and Foxtel Main Event.

                You asked who the hard working boxers were and I gave you some names, a lot of who made a lot of money overseas without having to call out Choc.

                Choc has also never headlined a PPV outside this country! HBO and Showtime never wanted a bar of him as he was not a draw outside the Eastern states of OZ

                My point as it has been from the start is that Mundine is not and never was the redeemer of boxing in this country and personally I will never class him as an “Australian Boxing Legend”.

                Do I think he used his profile as a rugby league player and his dad’s boxing career to create hype for his boxing career? 100%

                Do I think he was an exceptional athlete? !00%

                Do I think other boxers used him to advance their own careers? No Doubt

                Do I think he is one of Australia’s best boxers? Not even close!

                Do I think he could have been one of the best boxers Australia has produced? Most Definitely but he started too late and never proved himself against the best! Getting KO’d by guys you call second rate fighters id not a good look!

                Has he lifted the profile of boxing in this country? Yes. I don’t agree with the way he did it but think you give him too much credit.

                Just as a side note Shannon Taylor fought Sugar Shane Mosley in 2001 when he was P4P at Ceasers. Mundine has not come close to that kind of fight! (Please don’t bring up him beating a busted Mosley 12 years later)

              • Roar Pro

                May 24th 2018 @ 11:45am
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 11:45am | ! Report

                Oh and I did not miss the part where you said you can take them because your the size of Butterbean and boxed a bit.

                What was your professional record?

                I am positive you would get close enough to batter all those guys and they prob would not land a shot on you!!!!

              • Roar Guru

                May 24th 2018 @ 12:17pm
                BigJ said | May 24th 2018 @ 12:17pm | ! Report

                Butter bean was 330lbs and 6”4 I’m only 225lbs and 6”1 so you really need to do some research before you say something. My record before i broke my hand and couldn’t box anymore 14-0

              • May 24th 2018 @ 1:15pm
                Tom said | May 24th 2018 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

                Your full of it you said something completely differnt in another post i remember.prove you have boxed

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                May 24th 2018 @ 2:44pm
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 2:44pm | ! Report

                If you boxed as a pro and had a 14-0 record I should be able to find you on Boxrec if you want to provide some of the names you beat.

                No rush I can wait! (Won’t hold my breath though as I think I will be waiting a while)

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                May 24th 2018 @ 3:09pm
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 3:09pm | ! Report

                And you had to retire due to a broken hand?????

                Pretty sure every boxer worth his salt has broken their hand at some stage!

                Sounds like you had more of a heart than a hand problem if you actually did fight pro.

              • Roar Guru

                May 24th 2018 @ 7:30pm
                BigJ said | May 24th 2018 @ 7:30pm | ! Report

                Not the way I broke it I almost lost it in a crush injury and couldn’t cuff a fist for almost three years so it had nothing to do with a heart issue. Boxing record typo only 4-0 plus don’t remember any of the blokes I fought.

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            May 23rd 2018 @ 12:02pm
            Davico said | May 23rd 2018 @ 12:02pm | ! Report

            Also,

            Happy to admit I was incorrect with the timing on Fenech and Tyson, for some reason in my mind it seemed like Tyson came after Fenech but your correct they were the same era.

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              May 24th 2018 @ 12:22pm
              Jason Andrews said | May 24th 2018 @ 12:22pm | ! Report

              Davico, I would be very interested in seeing you write an article about who you think are/were the best aussie boxers of all time, I think it would be an interesting read. No doubt Tsyzu and Fenech would the in the top two pending on your opinion, but the following eight would be worth a look.

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                May 24th 2018 @ 2:58pm
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 2:58pm | ! Report

                Not much of a writer (The missus is) but might have a go at it.

                Kieza wrote a great one a couple of years ago which I would recommend you to read.

                On that I would also recommend the book by Paul Kent on johnny Lewis! Cracker!

                Hard to judge fighters I never saw fight and history has a romance about it especially when it comes to the sweet science.

                From what I have read you would prob have to have Darcy and Rose up there with Tsyzu and Fenech.

                Personally, I am a Newtown boy so have a soft spot for JL’s fighters and can still remember going crazy when Harding won his world title (As a 12yo at the Earlwood Hotel!)

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                May 24th 2018 @ 7:32pm
                BigJ said | May 24th 2018 @ 7:32pm | ! Report

                Tsyzu, fenech, rose, Darcy and Harding. Sounds like you have an idea what you’re on about, give it a go I’ll look forward to seeing it

              • May 24th 2018 @ 3:10pm
                ret said | May 24th 2018 @ 3:10pm | ! Report

                Dave Sands has to be up there.

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                May 24th 2018 @ 3:40pm
                Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

                Great story that of Dave Sands.

                Huge mission to travel to the US and UK back in those days

      • May 21st 2018 @ 10:56am
        Mike from Tari said | May 21st 2018 @ 10:56am | ! Report

        Mundine didn’t make the careers of Green,Geale & Soliman, these guys went around the world & made their own careers, while Mundine was reluctant to leave Australia, in fact these guys had already made their names & won their titles before they fought Mundine so it could be argued that they made Mundine.

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          May 21st 2018 @ 11:49am
          Jason Andrews said | May 21st 2018 @ 11:49am | ! Report

          Mundine may not of made the careers of Green, Soliman and Geale, but he certainly took them mainstream, they were all nobodies before they fought Mundine and all three went on to win legit world titles after fighting him.

          Green fought Mundine in 06 and won he WBA light-heavyweight title in 07 (his only real world title) WBC interim (03) and the IBO title are not legit world titles

          Geale fought him in 09 and went on to win the IBF middleweight title (11) and the WBA (Super) Middleweight title in 2012.

          After three defeats, (01,07 and08) Soliman would win the IBF middleweight crown in 2014.

          So while he might not of made their careers, fighting Mundine certainly help them out

    • May 21st 2018 @ 11:31am
      Davico said | May 21st 2018 @ 11:31am | ! Report

      Why would Horn fight Mundine?

      He is coming off beating one of the best fighters of his generation (Something Mundine has not come close to doing), did it in front of a bigger crowd than Mundine fought in front of and is now heading to the US to fight the best available in his division!

      Tim Tsyzu has had 8 fights so I doubt Mundine would consider him a big enough deal (that and he probably knows he would get knocked into next week)!

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      May 21st 2018 @ 11:50am
      Jason Andrews said | May 21st 2018 @ 11:50am | ! Report

      Horn will fight Mundine if he loses to Crawford, its the perfect rebound fight

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        May 24th 2018 @ 4:00pm
        Davico said | May 24th 2018 @ 4:00pm | ! Report

        I still don’t think Horn would bother with Mundine unless he is truly desperate for money as it would send his career south and he would be fighting other aussies or second rate fighters for as long as he continues on.

        Would think if he loses and wants to have another crack he would aim at someone like Matthysse to put on a show.

        His management and trainer don’t seem to fussed in putting him in a proper fight so as long as he does not get battered by the top man in the division there are other options

    • May 24th 2018 @ 11:24pm
      adam smith said | May 24th 2018 @ 11:24pm | ! Report

      Mundine’s next opponent needs to be a psychologist. Seriously, there is something fundamentally wrong in the upstairs department.

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      May 25th 2018 @ 6:19am
      BigJ said | May 25th 2018 @ 6:19am | ! Report

      Ha ha

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