The Demons still haven’t impressed this season

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    The Melbourne Demons haven’t impressed so far in 2018, only beating bottomed-out teams, while failing to capitalise against the best teams in the competition.

    On Sunday, the Dees defeated Carlton’s second-tier team at the MCG by 109 points, while they have also got victories over Brisbane and North Melbourne in Rounds 2 and 3 – not that impressive.

    They should’ve put together decent efforts against the reigning premiers, Richmond, on Anzac Eve, and Hawthorn, but got smashed by 67 and 46 points respectively.

    The last month has been easy for the Demons, beating bottom-dwellers Essendon, St Kilda, Gold Coast and Carlton, who are destined to finish in the bottom six in 2018.

    This Sunday, they get to play a rare home game in Alice Springs, against the Adelaide Crows, and Jake Lever gets the chance to finally get his hands on his former teammates.

    If the Dees don’t get the win, then do you really think they’ll be a force to be reckoned with come September, when the real challenge begins?

    It’s good to see the Demons’ fans finally happy, but I’m not a Melbourne believer just yet. When they take on the real teams, the honeymoon might be well and truly over for the red and blue.

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    • May 23rd 2018 @ 6:32am
      Patricia said | May 23rd 2018 @ 6:32am | ! Report

      I have had my doubts about them in past years. However, this year think they are the real deal and will place comfortably in the top eight. Not sure they make top four.

    • May 23rd 2018 @ 6:34am
      Rob said | May 23rd 2018 @ 6:34am | ! Report

      They are a genuine top 4 contender – unlike Essendon and Geelong who most picked for their top 4. They will win the next 3 games at least, be 9/3 going into the bye.

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        May 23rd 2018 @ 11:22am
        Lamby said | May 23rd 2018 @ 11:22am | ! Report

        But why a team with top 4 aspirations sell a ‘home’ game? They go to Alice Springs where most of the crowd will be supporting the Crows! It will feel like a Crows home game.

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          May 23rd 2018 @ 2:07pm
          Darren McSweeney said | May 23rd 2018 @ 2:07pm | ! Report

          That is the issue that we have with the NT, we end up playing SA teams or Queensland teams which probably have a larger following due to proximity.

          “But why a team with top 4 aspirations sell a ‘home’ game?” I don’t see what top 4 aspirations have to do with it.

          Hawthorn sold games to Tasmania, GWS sold games to Canberra, Port Adelaide sold ‘away’ games to China. Bulldogs sold games to Ballarat (at least they had aspirations when they signed the deal).

        • May 24th 2018 @ 7:00am
          Rob said | May 24th 2018 @ 7:00am | ! Report

          Why do Hawthorn sell home games to Launceston? And North sell them to Hobart? Money and exposure.

    • May 23rd 2018 @ 8:14am
      Rooboy said | May 23rd 2018 @ 8:14am | ! Report

      They broke the “Roodoo” when we were a little underdone.

      I’m looking forward to the rematch now that we have reset.

      • May 25th 2018 @ 6:50am
        Rob said | May 25th 2018 @ 6:50am | ! Report

        Im looking forward to a rematch now the Dees are out of first gear 😉

    • May 23rd 2018 @ 8:29am
      Rissole said | May 23rd 2018 @ 8:29am | ! Report

      You do know that they fielded a younger team than Carlton on the weekend? Still won by 109 points. I think they are going alright.

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        May 23rd 2018 @ 9:37am
        JamesH said | May 23rd 2018 @ 9:37am | ! Report

        Kade Simpson raised Carlton’s average age by about 3 years though.

        • May 23rd 2018 @ 9:51am
          handles said | May 23rd 2018 @ 9:51am | ! Report

          Offset by Bernie Vince, and to be honest I am pretty sure Simpson means more to Carlton than Bernie does to the Dees! On the couch briefly showed the age profiles, and Carlton had more sub 20 year olds, Melbourne more 20 – 24 year olds, and they both had a couple over 30. Melbourne’s average age was one day (one day) less than Carlton’s!

    • May 23rd 2018 @ 8:41am
      truetigerfan said | May 23rd 2018 @ 8:41am | ! Report

      I welcome the Dees into the top 4, it needs more Vic presence. Can they stay there? They certainly have a tough road ahead of them. Follow Viney’s lead and it is possible though I have my doubts.

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      May 23rd 2018 @ 8:57am
      Darren McSweeney said | May 23rd 2018 @ 8:57am | ! Report

      It seems that no matter what the Dees do, everyone still thinks they’re not up to it.

      Melbourne beat North Melbourne, who are in 7th, by 6 goals, but it was in Round 3, and everyone thought North weren’t that good then, so it doesn’t count.

      There has been only one team that has won by 100 points this year. Just one. No one else has done it. That alone should be enough to be considered impressive. Yes it was against Carlton, but no one else has done it against Carlton, or anyone else for that matter.

      Not enough, how ’bout these:

      Melbourne have kicked the highest total score – 940 points – from everyone this year.

      Melbourne have kicked the highest, in fact, the two highest single game scores 159 and 146 points.

      Melbourne have the 2nd highest average winning margin – 52.7 points. Brisbane is the only team with an average winning margin higher, and they have one win of 56 points.

      Melbourne, along with West Coast, are the only teams to have not lost in the last 4 weeks, and along with Richmond and Adelaide are the only teams to have won 4 out of the last 5 matches.

      Melbourne are the league leaders in Hit Outs, Centre Clearances, Inside 50s, Marks Inside 50, and Contested Possessions, 2nd in total Clearances, Quarters Won, Goals, and Goal Assists, 3rd in Tackles and Contested Marks.

      Melbourne have had 24 individual goal kickers from 33 players, equal with St Kilda and behind only Essendon and Geelong on 25 players from 35 and 33 players.

      Melbourne have been tackled the 3rd most and have the 2nd highest Rebound 50s against, but only the 16th Inside 50s against.

      Melbourne have won 4 away matches in a row. Only one of those has been at the MCG.

      Melbourne have done this despite have no player inside the top 10 in disposals, kicks or marks.

      But people still doubt that they are really any good.

      It’s still not good enough. When will it be good enough?

      If we beat Adelaide this week, it will only be because Adelaide had so many injuries. People will still say they’re not convinced.

      Carlton beat Essendon and everyone was talking about their comeback. Essendon beat Geelong and suddenly they are a contender.

      But not Melbourne. They’re not good enough.

      Just keep underestimating us. Keep disrespecting us. It will make it all the sweeter when we prove you all wrong.

      • May 23rd 2018 @ 9:52am
        truetigerfan said | May 23rd 2018 @ 9:52am | ! Report

        Lovely stats, Darren. Can you keep it up against stiffer opposition, no pun intended, consistently? Will those stats deflate when you’re put to the sword by better equipped teams? Good luck.

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          May 23rd 2018 @ 12:00pm
          Darren McSweeney said | May 23rd 2018 @ 12:00pm | ! Report

          This is the exact point I’m making. “Can you keep it up against stiffer opposition” doesn’t get asked of the Carltons, Essendons, St Kildas or North Melbournes…. they have one win and suddenly they’re premiership contenders.

          The lovely stats I provided show that our wins were more than just falling over the line or scraping by, they were decisive victories.

          Once again, 1/3 of the way into the season and one team has won by 100 points this year.

          Richmond haven’t done it, West Coast haven’t done it. Adelaide haven’t done it. Or have they only played teams that were stiffer opposition?

          So far this year, we had 1 bad game against Hawthorn (currently out of the 8) and a bad quarter against Richmond (there was only 11 points in it, right up til 3 qtr time).

          We came within one goal of making finals last year. Yeah, we lost it when we shouldn’t have, but so did Geelong this week. So did Hawthorn.

          As I said, even if we beat Adelaide, most commentators and keyboard warriors will remain unconvinced. That I don’t mind, it’s the lack of respect – particularly in comments here on theroar – that I get annoyed by.

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            May 23rd 2018 @ 1:54pm
            Sachit Dassanayake said | May 23rd 2018 @ 1:54pm | ! Report

            Just a quick note: I don’t recall anyone calling Carlton, St. Kilda or North Melbourne ‘premiership contenders’.
            I think Essendon got called this in round 1, but that was because they beat Adelaide. Even then, I did not and still do not agree with that statement at all. When they beat Geelong, no one said that they were a contender. If anything, people were questioning Geelong as a contender, and why it took Essendon so long to click as a team.
            I can think of two reasons why Melbourne isn’t considered a contender yet: 1. As many have pointed out, their last four rounds have been stupidly soft. I’m sorry, but beating Essendon, Gold Coast, St Kilda and Carlton doesn’t exactly strike fear into other teams, and it certainly doesn’t make you a contender.
            2. The reason people are having doubts is because we have seen Melbourne have good wins, but then disappoint the following week. For example, last year they won against Adelaide by 41 but then lost to North by 14. They also won against Port by 23 and then to North again by 4. We don’t trust them yet.
            If you do beat Adelaide, I will sit up and take notice. Until then though, I’m not convinced.

            • May 28th 2018 @ 1:01pm
              Nic said | May 28th 2018 @ 1:01pm | ! Report

              Convinced yet?

      • May 23rd 2018 @ 10:03am
        Peter said | May 23rd 2018 @ 10:03am | ! Report

        haha. No one is talking down form. The jury is out on September qualifications, to which there is only one remedy: Have some kind of presence at the pointy end. That’s when it will be good enough.

      • May 23rd 2018 @ 11:58am
        Perry Bridge said | May 23rd 2018 @ 11:58am | ! Report

        The win over North was a good win for the Dees – monkey off the back and all that – although that was 2 weeks after the Cairns cyclone match – both the Suns and North won the week after it (round 2) – but the impact was felt (as per the Jono Brown theory) the 2nd week after and North certainly tired against the Dees that dday after having finished off superbly to demolish the Saints on Good Friday.

        So – the Dees did what they ought to.

        But – this is it – even the last 4 weeks v Ess, StK, Suns and Carl – they got a couple of those sides at very low ebbs – and the Dees have done what they ought to.

        What they have done is get Tommy McDonald back, and in form, and Viney back now too. So – the cards are starting to fall their way – and confidence and team play are building.

        Certainly a ‘watch this space’ – but now first class upgrade just yet!!

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          May 23rd 2018 @ 1:26pm
          Darren McSweeney said | May 23rd 2018 @ 1:26pm | ! Report

          So what you’re saying is- and still the point I’m making is “Sure Melbourne won, but…. ”

          Sure Melbourne won against Brisbane but…. Brisbane are on the bottom.
          Sure Melbourne won against North, but…. North wasn’t that “good” then, and they played in bad conditions a few weeks earlier, and they had a big win, and they had someone out, and they played at the MCG and….

          Sure Melbourne won against Essendon, but… Essendon is now down the bottom of the table (they were still “good” when we played them by the way”) and they had a day less because of ANZAC Day, and they were missing players and…

          Sure Melbourne won against St Kilda, but… St Kilda only lost because they couldn’t kick straight and they are a bottom team and….

          Sure Melbourne won against Gold Coast, but… Gold Coast has had to travel everywhere, so were tired and they were a bottom team, and they weren’t used to playing at the Gabba and ….

          Sure Melbourne won against Carlton, but… it was Carlton.

          Next week if we win it will be Sure Melbourne won against Adelaide, but…. Adelaide had so many injuries….

          Can’t you all just let us celebrate a big victory without qualification.

          • May 23rd 2018 @ 2:55pm
            Perry Bridge said | May 23rd 2018 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

            #Darren M

            What you’ll find is that the reason this narrative emerges is that many of the observers perhaps are really hoping that Melbourne IS turning the corner and will be a contender. For me – I’d love a Melb v Geel GF sometime in the next year or two (basically 2020 will be 160 years since Melb v Geel first met on Sat Sep 1 back in 1860).

            btw – North have been getting ‘pumped’ up (as better than expected) – but, we’ve only beating ‘undermanned’ sides in Syd, Hawks and GWS. Of course – some clubs have won even when undermanned (Adelaide and Syd and West Coast) – – so, a win is a win.

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            May 23rd 2018 @ 5:30pm
            Pedro The Fisherman said | May 23rd 2018 @ 5:30pm | ! Report

            Whinge much? The What About Me mentality is dragging Melbourne down.
            The reason that people say this is because Melbourne has not beaten anyone of substance and are generally inconsistent (although this year they have consistently beaten the sides that lack substance).
            Until they string a few together against genuine contenders they will always be viewed with skepticism … and rightly so!’

      • May 24th 2018 @ 7:05am
        Rob said | May 24th 2018 @ 7:05am | ! Report

        Spot on – the AFL website did a poll monday asking who was best team so far this year. Despite being 3rd Melbourne wasnt one of the 4 options! It shouldnt shock anyone Melbourne are primed for a top 4 spot but here we are….