Impressive against France, the Socceroos need to throw caution to the wind

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    The Socceroos put in a good shift against France, but at the end of the day they didn’t get anything out of the game.

    There must be tweaks to the game plan for the Socceroos to go further at the 2018 World Cup.

    The Socceroos have to claim six points out of the remaining six that are available. The objective must be to go out on the pitch and put the ball in the back of the net. Therefore, it’s a non-negotiable that the Socceroos need to gamble.

    Jackson Irvine and Daniel Arzani have to start, there is no other option.

    Matt Leckie would be a better option than Naboutt up front, because he can get the ball in the back of the net as he showed when he scored a brace against Czech Republic in a friendly.

    Arzani has to play instead of Robbie Kruse; Kruse offered nothing against France and would struggle to get a game in the A-League.

    Irvine must play in place of Tom Rogic. Mass Luongo should be in the starting line up in the attacking midfield position. I would also play Milos Degenek instead of Josh Risdon.

    My line up against Denmark would be as follows:

    Goalkeeper: Mat Ryan
    He was outstanding in the first half.

    Left Back: Aziz Behich
    He showed against France that he has the ability to go forward.

    Left Centre Back: Marc Milligan
    Proved that he deserves to be a permanent starter in the heart of defence with a solid performance against France.

    Right Centre Back: Trent Sainsbury
    Sainsbury was just about the best player on the field against France.

    Right Back: Milos Degenek
    He is slightly more solid in defence as Josh Risdon and also has the ability to create things as he showed in the friendly against Czech Republic.

    Defensive Midfield: Aaron Mooy
    Played an outstanding game against France.

    Left Sided Midfielder: Daniel Arzani
    Gives the Socceroos another string to their bow; Needs to play a full ninety minutes.

    Central Midfielder: Mile Jedinak (Captain)
    He showed great leadership against the French.

    Right Sided Midfielder: Jackson Irvine
    Always performs when given the opportunity.

    Attacking Midfielder: Massimo Luongo
    Should play in an attacking position as he is more effective when playing in that position.

    Striker: Matthew Leckie
    More potent when playing up front.

    First substitute: Jamie Maclaren- Australia played well when he was on the field against Czech Republic in a friendly.

    Second substitute: Andrew Nabbout
    Despite not having an impact in the game against France, he played with great endeavour.

    Third Substitute: Tim Cahill
    A spiritual leader for the Socceroos, needs to play as an impact player.

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    • June 18th 2018 @ 8:56am
      Fadida said | June 18th 2018 @ 8:56am | ! Report

      They don’t need to do anything to begin with. They have to ensure they are solid and organised, going behind will make things hard. They certainly won’t, and don’t need to throw caution to the wind. A 1-0 win will do.

      Having 3 preconceived subs is ludicrous.

      • June 18th 2018 @ 8:58am
        Fadida said | June 18th 2018 @ 8:58am | ! Report

        And I just noticed you’ve picked Irvine on the right of midfield, a position he’s never played and is entirely unsuited for. Your combination of Degenak and Irvine is truly woeful

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          June 18th 2018 @ 2:19pm
          Doran Smith said | June 18th 2018 @ 2:19pm | ! Report

          The point is Irvine has to play and I didn’t select him on the wing; he is a midfielder. Degenek isn’t woeful, he showed his quality as a sub to set up the fourth goal in a friendly.

          • June 18th 2018 @ 3:59pm
            Fadida said | June 18th 2018 @ 3:59pm | ! Report

            You’ve clearly picked him as a right sided midfielder. Leckie is striker. Therefore Irvine is expected to play the Leckie role. On the wing.

            Even if he was to tuck in on the right of a diamond, which isn’t a formation they’ve even tried under BVM, that would then rely on Degenak, whose not an attacking fullback, to spend the game overlapping to provide width. Which doesn’t suit him at all.

    • June 18th 2018 @ 9:12am
      Post_hoc said | June 18th 2018 @ 9:12am | ! Report

      Further from Fadida you confuse CM with a defensive midfielder, why on earth would you put a play maker at DM and a very very defensive play in Mile at CM.

      Also you don’t have a left CB and Right CB you just have CB, they swap over cross all game.

      Much easier just to say Ryan at 1, so and so at 2,3,4,5 then a 6,8,10 then 7,9,11

    • June 18th 2018 @ 10:47am
      MQ said | June 18th 2018 @ 10:47am | ! Report

      Yes, spot on, I think most would agree with you.

      Also, BVM is not a gambler, he prefers to set his own odds and have things in his favour, so the last thing he will do is throw caution to the wind.

      As we saw in this morning’s results, one goal is enough if you’re tight at the back, which will remain BVM’s ongoing priority.

      The other thing is that if there is one thing Denmark excels at, it’s lightning quick counters.

      • June 18th 2018 @ 11:54am
        MQ said | June 18th 2018 @ 11:54am | ! Report

        Sorry, this was intended to sit under Fadida’s comment, I was agreeing with him.

    • June 18th 2018 @ 11:48am
      Kris said | June 18th 2018 @ 11:48am | ! Report

      And we don’t need to win both remaining games (although we should try to)

      France 2-0 Peru
      Denmark 0-0 Australia

      Denmark 0-1 France
      Australia 2-0 Peru

      In that scenario Australia go through on 4 points at Denmark’s expense.

      The last thing I am expecting from BVM is all out attack.

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        June 18th 2018 @ 2:30pm
        Doran Smith said | June 18th 2018 @ 2:30pm | ! Report

        Qualifying for the second round may come down to goal difference, even if we win both of the remaining games. If France beat Peru and Australia beat Denmark and Denmark beat France, and Australia beat Peru, then there are three teams on six points; France, Denmark and Australia, the Socceroos need to score lots of goals.

        • June 18th 2018 @ 2:58pm
          Kris said | June 18th 2018 @ 2:58pm | ! Report

          Any combination of results could happen, the only one that will eliminate us immediately is a loss. BVM isn’t going chasing goal at the risk of a point, or a 1-0.

          The first rule of tournament play is don’t lose your first game, because then you are relying on other results.

        • June 18th 2018 @ 4:17pm
          Fadida said | June 18th 2018 @ 4:17pm | ! Report

          We aren’t going to score “lots of goals”. The focus is simply to win, and a win and a draw may still be enough. Two 1-0 wins should get us through.

          Watch “89” the documentary on Arsenal winning the title in 89(funnily enough) away to Liverpool. At the time Liverpool we’re like man U of the 90’s and early 2000’s; serial title winners. They were absolutely brilliant. For those not old enough to remember, Liverpool and Arsenal were 1 & 2 going into the last game of the season. The game was at fortress Anfield, where the home side never lost. To win the title Arsenal needed to win 2-0. Their pragmatic manager George Graham instructed his team to sit tight, be compact and organised in the first half, aim for 0-0, don’t get caught chasing the game as Liverpool would destroy them on the counter. None expected it.

          Graham reminded the team that you can’t win the game in the first half, but you can lose it. Sound familiar? Look to capitalise on set peices.

          0-0 at half time. 1-0 via a set piece, and then if you haven’t seen it an amazing last minute winner. Liverpool thought they’d go all out attack, “throw caution to the wind”. Graham recognised that conceding an early goal would finish them. They couldn’t score 3.

          Likewise, BVM won’t “go for it” knowing that it’ll play into the handd of Denmark and Peru who’ll score on the counter. Game over.

          We know Ange would have gone for it from the KO, and we also know from experience that our opponents will expect that, and like even Syria could do, score an early goal in transition.

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            June 18th 2018 @ 4:48pm
            Doran Smith said | June 18th 2018 @ 4:48pm | ! Report

            Sounds like an interesting documentary.

    • June 18th 2018 @ 12:10pm
      rakshop said | June 18th 2018 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

      I am almost certain BVM will make at least one change if not more. The reality of this up and in style means that tired legs are going to be a problem. Disregarding the formation (and compact final third), the France game showed that we aren’t playing that much of a different style than what we did against say the Netherlands/Spain in WC14. At the present point in time, if there is one thing we could take away from the last world cup it is that we need to find a way to rotate more players through so we aren’t fading out of later matches.

      Mooy had a fantastic all round game but looked cooked at the 80 minute mark. Ditto Jedinak. Mile was brought in to stabilise the CM, which for the most part he did very well. It’s unfortunate to go back and realise that he was the one that was out of position for the second goal, partly because of his poor positioning, partly because he is a 30+ year old up against one of the faster players in world football. Sometimes that just happens when you are tired. Legs are also going to be a problem for Nabbout (if he is playing up front by himself), Risdon and Beich because of the amount of meters they are going to have to get through during the match. Kruse and Leckie should be ok-ish, I don’t see Kruse “as much” of a problem mainly because he looks like he is only going to go forward on a break and likely only to get 60 mins per match anyway, Leckie will fade in and out, but will go the 90 albeit at lessor pace at the back end.

      The reality is, if we are going to play this style, we are going need to rotate our squad to have some legs in game 2 and 3. The problem is, who can BVM rotate in? Mass will obviously come in for Mile at some stage, Jackson might get a start for Rogic/Kruse depending on structure. Degenek will come into calculations, but I am not convinced that Jurman, Dimi or Meredith will. Azarni can’t go a full 90-minute A League game on a consistent basis and that will rule him out for a birth in the starting XI. Juric is the obvious replacement for Nabbout, but I am not sure he has the speed and stamina to undertake the defensive aspects that Nabbout brings. Which brings McClarren into calculations, but he is going to have to put his head down and bum up and do a whole lot more without the ball in defence – which in turn will somewhat blunt his counter abilities and the position he starts his runs from. Cahill, Azarni and one of Kruse/Jackson/Rogic (when they don’t start) will remain as the strategic attacking subs (although I suspect we wont see Cahill unless we lose to the Danes and the Peru match becomes a dead rubber). If Jedinak does not start, he becomes our key strategic defensive substitution, depending on game situation. Otherwise, any other sub will be like for like – or in the case of Juric/Nabbout, Jackson/Rogic – same position for different attacking style.

      The reality is, I really only see Jackson, Degenek and Mass as the only real viable options BVM has to rotate into the starting 11. Anything else will attach some form of “unknown” risk to it. We are heavily relying on Leckie, Mooy, Sainsbury, Milligan and one of (if not both) Risdon and Beich going the full 270 minutes over 8 days with Nabbout running himself to a standstill playing 180 minutes. Unless we can rotate a few players in and out, I fear we will fade out come the 80 minute mark of the remaining two games. BVM may have to take a risk and start the likes of an Azarni, or even a Petratos. Risky yes. Ideal no. Logical probably.

      • June 18th 2018 @ 4:26pm
        Fadida said | June 18th 2018 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

        Good post.

        I’d like to see Juric for Nabbout, Luongo, Irvine and Mooy start together for game 2

        I think he’ll keep the rest as is, but we’ll see Arzani earlier. Nabbout is potentially sub for Leckie.

        Rogic is only useful against tiring legs, when the game is open. Jedinak if we are leading and looking to shore the game up.

        I’m expecting fatigue will see more changes for game 3, but we may well be out so I wouldn’t plan for that yet.

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          June 19th 2018 @ 5:07pm
          Griffo said | June 19th 2018 @ 5:07pm | ! Report

          Petratos is an option for Leckie in the attacking sense, but Nabbout for more pace.

          Arzani I think will come on earlier, although that might be determined by the scoreline a little.

          I am actually surprised by the fatigue comments, given the amount of training undertaken. I expected the France game was more intense psychologically rather than physically.

          I think the team looks better physically than Ange’s in 2014, who were basically done by the third game vs Spain. Ange also prepped the team better for the Asian Cup physically, and used more players, which can help reduce fatigue among the squad.

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