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Forgotten stories in football history

John Sandilands (Jack) was born in 1854, his brother William in 1856, the oldest two boys in a family of 13 born in Scotland to Benoni Nimmo Sandilands and wife Sarah, they migrated to Melbourne around 1859 and settled in South Melbourne where a street is now named after them.

WA boys IMHO are usually under rated, according to many it was a mystery why Jaxon Cahill was not drafted last year.

The WAFL stars deserving of a mid-season opportunity

You mean the Surrey Hills insulated bubble of our inner suburban double soy latte sippers, I have no doubt they think they are representative of us.

Israel, please shut up about God – oh, and happy Easter!

Either the author who happens to be a roar editor really believes what he wrote, or else this a click bait article, either way this is what happens when identity politics takes grab, identity politics which should be removed as far as possible from the sporting realm, there is no need for it.

But the author seeks to infuse as much as possible as he can get away with ….. based on a splintered, factionalised gang of old white men wearing robes of course its white men, god forbid if IF was a white man!!, white men are responsible for every crisis and ill in the world, even responsible for IF following religion and quoting the bible no doubt.

I have found that usually people who claim all this diversity, inclusiness etc are actually the opposite, the proof is actually this article.

Israel, please shut up about God – oh, and happy Easter!

Plenty of evidence, – marn grook in the western district of Victoria where Tom Wills grew up. ……..Tom was the son of landholder Horatio Wills and the district’s only white child in the 1830s to 40s.

He grew up playing with Indigenous children, speaking their language and participating in corrobborees and ceremonies.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-13/historian-reveals-marngrook-influence-on-afl/8439748

Scroll down to see an old lithograph from the 1850’s of indigenous kids playing with a ball.

Even Tom Wills family passes down stories ….. L.Wills Cooke, grandson of Tom Wills’ brother Horace, has told journalist/author Martin Flanagan, & a public meeting of Old Melburnians FC (ex Melb. Grammar students -this school played against Scotch in the famous game organised by T.Wills in 1858) that his mother told him of this family legend – Tom Wills, as a young child in the isolated Moyston area, played Marngrook with aboriginal children.
(The ball, made of possum skin, tied up with kangaroo sinews, & stuffed with charcoal, was kicked high in the air between two groups of aboriginals, who faced each other in 2 lines. The winner was the person who was able to catch the contested high ball, without it touching the ground, the most times).

Wills was so fluent in the Western Vic. Aboriginal dialect that, 20 years later after leaving that district in 1845, when he returned, he was able to recall & speak to the Aboriginals in their dialect. VERY COMPLICATED dialect conversations re cricket rules & coaching cricket skills for their tour of England!

Melbourne will never be in thrall to rugby league, and that's marvellous

Rain belt

Sidey's corner: A tale of footy folklore

You are not following- the AFL supported and virtue signalled like RA during the recent gay marriage referendum, Carlton FC which no doubt has all the programs you mention and maybe more did not campaign and released a statement stating it is personal choice and as such will not campaign for gay marriage, IMO that is the correct way of doing things, a nuetral impartial view that reflects both sides.

BHP, Qantas, the AFL, RA are not arbiters of our morals and how we should speak, they should take their snouts out of the SJW trough and stick to their core business.

Just one question will decide Folau's future

Atheism, greens and virtue signalling are the new religions, somehow seen as progressive but in a nutshell do exactly the same as the things they seek to replace.

Just one question will decide Folau's future

What the view that sporting clubs, bodies and big business shouldn’t get involved in promoting views that not all members have when it comes to specifics like gay marriage etc, I would have thought any self respecting Australian would want an impartial nuetral view rather than a SJW virtue signalling one like you seem to have.

Most posters who have or share a similar view to mine have been moderated very heavily, yet it seems posters like yourself have been given carte blanch to say what they like.

Hardly fair and hardly Australian IMO.

Just one question will decide Folau's future

Exactly, there is a small but not insubstantial amount of posters here who have helped moderate out of existence any argument that states what you have posted helped by the roar hierarchy.

Pretty sad a sports site has stooped this low pretending or perhaps really think they are being diverse and inclusive in their approach, when in fact they are being the opposite.

Actually i blame the education system – quite frankly they are brainwashed.

Just one question will decide Folau's future

I am a QANTAS shareholder, i dont agree with his posturing, IMO like the Carlton football club and not the AFL in the recent gay marriage plebiscite/referendum, it should be neutral and state that everyone is free to make up their own mind and we don’t support one or the other.

Sporting clubs, sporting bodies, big business etc should pull their heads out of the SJW virtue signalling trough and have impartial views.

Waiting of course for moderation to look this over and per usual the conversation has gone way past this.

Just one question will decide Folau's future

Well I know what I like, so instead of more rules, you could actually wind some of the more recent rules, rules that were meant to speed and open the game up which have done the opposite.

For about 150 – yes that’s right 150 years the game got along fine without interchange, with I/C came a increased need for extreme fitness – why you may ask ?, because coaches realised fit players interchanged regularly would all become fit recharged players around the ball, the key to winning has always been good followers( midfielders) getting the ball from throwins and bounces (stoppages) and giving the forwards a good chance of kicking a goal. A fit supercharge, always regenerated midfield can get the ball first.

Take that ability away and play slows down but does not necessarily get bogged down, it opens up.

AFL isn't broken, so stop saying it is

Typo – I guess one of quite a number!

Israel Folau to fight Rugby AU sanction

ANZAC day is a public holiday.

Israel Folau to fight Rugby AU sanction

Me to, unless I agree with RA and the baying mob, I under moderation, not that you will see it because this post won’t be put up.

Israel Folau to fight Rugby AU sanction

I guess diversity is working out well for Barry Humphrey’s ATM.

Quite a parallel actually between Folau and Humphrey’s ATM, both hounded by the mob because of their views, apparently not diverse enough, but then again as we move progressively forward these same people who now are part of the baying mob will have their views censored undoubtedly.

Israel Folau to fight Rugby AU sanction

Cant speak for anyone else, more one on one contests for the ball whether on the ground or in marking contests, more goals and more open play.

I want less tackling, scrums, stoppages.

How do we do get rid of what i want less of ?—– either zones, less players or less interchanges.

They are your options.

AFL isn't broken, so stop saying it is

I knew he won the colts B&F, but what got him there ?, it appears to me it wasn’t actually a football brain or good football skills and i understand that AFL footy makes good footballers make mistakes due to pressure, so perhaps i am a bit unfair on him but from what i saw he wasn’t drafted due to his actual football prowess.

Won the 2 k time trial this year at the Dockers.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

I reckon i could find literally hundreds of athletes who play footy drafted ahead of footballers with good skills and a football brain who may be a bit slow or bad 2k time trial or yoyo test etc.

One from last year who springs to mind is Stefan Giro – a rookie who i watched play last year, semed to run a lot but could not hit a target, either kicked the ball over every ones head or ten metres before them.

I looked at his bio for the Dockers, didn’t say he could play footy but said he was a champion distance runner and he applied many pressure acts and tackles!!!.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

36 players yes, but a increasing number charged up enough to make it to the next contest rather than hold a position, that’s my thinking.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

I don’t know, but I watched a WAFL colts game on the weekend, unlimited interchange and 5 interchange players, it doesn’t do a great deal for a open game of football.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

It’s like anything, the more time you have the more time you have for doubts to seep in, players like McKenna, Dunstall, Lockett etc have or had a really high % of belief in their drop punt kicking technique, players who kick around the corner from relatively easy shots don’t.

Kicking standards particularly the standard drop punt have lowered as AFL clubs seek athletes and then proceed or hope to teach them skills.

Perhaps this gets back to junior coaching, generally if you can’t kick a decent drop punt by about 10 you are going to struggle, at junior level you have plenty of coaches who are new to the game, don’t know how to kick properly themselves or struggle to impart their knowledge.

Kids used to and no doubt some still do spend all weekend kicking a ball around, taught the correct way to start with they end up having good techniques, taught the wrong way or left to their own devices they end up having flawed kicking styles and under pressure situations will look for shortcuts.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

You can change this and you can change that, but unless they reduce interchange numbers to around 30 or so per game the defensive Auskick rolling scrums will continue, while clubs have the ability to get plenty of fit recharged bodies behind or around the ball they will do it, when they lose that ability contests and play will open up, goal kicking will become easier.

A rule change was never the answer to AFL's goal-kicking woes

What a surprise moderated again for having a different opinion on a website that no doubt according to the heirschy prides itself on inclusion and diversity.

Yet after asking the roar to contact me via email probably half a dozen times to spell out exactly what I have said wrong and putting up with a number of posters calling me a flog, a liar and a bigot (TWAS) and of course no moderation for him it seems a really weird double standard?.

Perhaps you guys can get of the high moral horse you undoubtedly think you are mounted on and drag yourselves down a notch or two to respond to me?.

I await as per usual your reply.

Billy Vunipola shows support for Israel Folau

Sorry boys – not diverse or inclusive enough, we only want diverse opinions that are not actually diverse but actually pretty much totalitarian.

Billy Vunipola shows support for Israel Folau

Maybe Collingwood took it easy or were not switched on but they really didn’t look that great.

Cox should just have a shot, if he misses sobeit.

Collingwood vs Western Bulldogs: Friday night forecast