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Forgotten stories in football history

John Sandilands (Jack) was born in 1854, his brother William in 1856, the oldest two boys in a family of 13 born in Scotland to Benoni Nimmo Sandilands and wife Sarah, they migrated to Melbourne around 1859 and settled in South Melbourne where a street is now named after them.

Don’t really buy that, if it is, it must be a very small %.

Sydney cricket grounds in particular are small, due to the way the city was founded and the general topography.

Space is at a premium in most of the world, that to me is the real reason.

The AFLX sure has some work to do

Yep, in general i agree, i don’t like the circus, but i think the game is an actual winner, would be a great game to play, in fact anyone who has played the game has probably played it anyway or a similar style, i have seen plenty of training drills of smaller sided games on smaller areas.

I think the AFL thinks it needs to compete with the BBL, it really is hard to get a grasp on whether the ‘circus’ AFLX will succeed, the posters on here are generally conservative in their sporting views so maybe are not reflective of a large sample.

The AFLX sure has some work to do

Agree with many of the points in the article, I dislike the scoring system, the jumpers, the overhype and the teams but I actually really like the game, perhaps it is a bit to open but I like the concept and always have of a smaller sided game, as someone who has seen many kids give the game away when you have 40 kids which is far to many for one team but not nearly enough for two.

In defence of AFLX

Not really focussing on your good article but more on your UK heritage —- you may enjoy it ….

From West Devon to Geelong, via the cape

A letter of intent to the AFL

Well, without Englishmen the game wouldn’t exist, of that i have no doubt, recently i discovered that both the first President of North Melbourne one of the oldest football clubs in the world (1869) and relative newcomer Collingwood (1892) first Presidents were both Englishmen born in London.

More recently from living in Perth where about 10% of the population was born in the UK, which does not include kids born here or 10 pound poms kids etc the UK population is huge, some suburbs up North have around 50/60% UK migrants which has given rise to junior footy clubs such as Brighton Seahawks, when i was involved in junior football the club was primarily run by English parents and let me tell you the egg and Bacon rolls were magnificent.

Another interesting English involvement in footy was in Adelaide out at Elizabeth which was the center of Holden and plenty of 10 pound poms …..and i quote from wiki …. Centrals now have the largest attending support in the SANFL. Uniquely for an Australian Rules club, Centrals have a very strong British migrant identity and supporter base as Elizabeth was a centre of UK migrant settlements in South Australia. The colours and emblem of the club also reflect this rich British background. The colours were adopted from a UK soccer side depicted on a souvenir card however the exact identity of which club inspired the colours has not been revealed. To this day, many Central supporters carry Union Jack flags at matches and sport UK soccer paraphernalia. The colours were also influenced by Footscray in the VFL, the new club’s inaugural patron, and the same Bulldog emblem was adopted for its working class connotations

A letter of intent to the AFL

WAFL colts footy stipulates that two players from each team must be in the forward fifty at all times, this rule was bought in to allow talent scouts to identify players and of course open the game up.

No complaints from anyone and i watch a bit of colts footy ( last year)

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

Just a couple of other points, there is no real logical reason why the women’s game has to exactly mirror the men’s game, you and i both agree that tackling in the game is at all time highs, going from 30/40 tackles per game to literally hundreds in a relatively short time frame and one of the reasons why the game gets bogged down, there was a big chance here to change the rules around tackles and I/C to open up the game, a game that probably more girls would like to play.

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

I wouldn’t deny them, I just think that a smaller sided game on a smaller ground would suit them better, horses for courses IMO.

That is not going to happen as the die has been cast and the ‘revolution’ has already taken place and women’s footy will be played on old suburban grounds and in that regard it makes good sense, but IMO from a skills, fitness and physicality POV the women’s game is not ATM and may never be ideally suited to big grounds.

I have noticed plenty of injuries and have heard they have a higher rate and part of the problem IMO is the extra pressure because of bad skills and easy fundamental errors which leads to more packs etc, also it’s not a huge jump to say that the female body is not really made for hard physical footy, that’s why I suggested a type of game that would be both better to watch and also less physical.

Interestingly in Gaelic football the rules around tackling in women’s football are different from the men’s game, the Gaelic women playing out here state that Gaelic footy is much more skill full than AFLW.

Personally I would like to see a women’s game that is open and skillfull with less physicality and tackling, I can watch women’s Rugby to see women beat each other.

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

I’ll check the article out sometime… See how it matches up with your other comments on here

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz….. i really cant wait!.

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

Maybe i made the first comment, maybe i didn’t, maybe you have quoted it out of context (which would not surprise), but go ahead and dig it up if it really bugs you.

The second comment i definitely did make and stand by it, i think women would be better served by a game on a smaller ground with less physicality and players and they could have made it their own and developed it accordingly

Lastly i have actually written a article about the growth of women’s football that applauds their growth in the game and the benefits they contribute.

Here it is….https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/12/27/the-rise-and-rise-of-womens-football-2/
published 27 December 2018, so not long ago,

How many positive articles have you written about women’s football ?, in fact feel free to comment on mine, i noticed you didn’t, but you seem the jealous over arching type so perhaps you deliberately didn’t (again that wouldn’t surprise)

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

I am a vocal critic of the standard of women’s football, not women’s football itself and i did see glimpses of a game of footy break out during the Dockers Brisbane game.

Why AFLW can look ugly, and what teams can do to fix it

Totally agree, the people that need to apologise are the people like Koch and the AFL and Gary Lyon who made him apologise!!, who knows what they threatened him with!, he has nothing to feel bad about.

It’s no one else’s business bar maybe a girlfriend etc who may want to know what happened ????, but the ‘righteous’ AFL media’ quite frankly make me nauseous.

Watts are you doing Jack?

Overs used to be 8 balls long – changed for Tv – just saying!!

The unwanted return of AFLX

Please explain what he has actually done wrong ?, IMO absolutely nothing, except apologizing for his behaviour.

Watts are you doing Jack?

If you start now Rugby may become a real family affair in about 100 years.

Scroll to 1.44, women at Vic Park Collingwood game in 1910.

The Wrap: What’s the real lowdown with grassroots rugby? Part Two

Actually middle Australia distrusts both big business and Government, BTW middle Australia and that would probably include the bulk of posters here pay for everything……. mums and dads are to busy making a living, doing the right thing and repaying debts, sending kids to what they hope are good schools, they don’t have Frank Lowy think tanks or get into the ear of politicians, they don’t have long standing financial relationships with political parties to curry favour, neither do they protest about transgender rights or protest to increase immigration or refugees — but they pay for it all.

As George Carlin said ….. “The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there…just to scare …

It's time to bring the fun back to AFL in 2019

Big fan base if they ever get it together, will no doubt struggle along as they only have one premiership in 150 years so they have probably had worse times and that was against Collingwood in 1966 by one point who as per usual managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory!!

Not going anywhere I would have thought, Lyon got them humming along but seriously it was a game style that about the worst I have seen – didn’t seem to bother Saints fans at the time though.

Why St Kilda are in the worst position of any team in the league

Those guys would not now have the running capacity to play AFLX, it’s a real endurance game, it’s a game for 400 metre runners who can kick a ball well and have footy smarts.

AFLX is a misguided waste of resources

Not keen on the gimmicks like zooper goal, that IMO was pretty cringeworthy, but the actual game i reckon is pretty good, one more player per team is needed IMO, if it continues i can see specialised squads, and possibly it may run at some point through the actual season perhaps midweek ??.

AFLX is a misguided waste of resources

Zzzzzz……, the bee seems to be in your bonnet.

'D---head': Garry Lyon slams Jack Watts' 'stupidity' over leaked video

Zzzzzz……. what a loser.

'D---head': Garry Lyon slams Jack Watts' 'stupidity' over leaked video

Not s shocking look at all, it’s a young bloke on holidays having some fun, retrospectively he will look back and not be ashamed( if he actually really is), he has been goaded by the pathetically PC AFL and backed by a equally compliant media into accepting he behaved badly.

Port's Watts remorseful over powder video

Nothing invisible about it, plain as the nose on your face for anyone half intelligent ….

'D---head': Garry Lyon slams Jack Watts' 'stupidity' over leaked video

In the scheme of friendships and relationships it is, any one with a shred of understanding would have read that into my posts …. pity ….

'D---head': Garry Lyon slams Jack Watts' 'stupidity' over leaked video

They were all MARRIED, respect is respect, obviously you don’t have it or understand it.

'D---head': Garry Lyon slams Jack Watts' 'stupidity' over leaked video