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Forgotten stories in football history

John Sandilands (Jack) was born in 1854, his brother William in 1856, the oldest two boys in a family of 13 born in Scotland to Benoni Nimmo Sandilands and wife Sarah, they migrated to Melbourne around 1859 and settled in South Melbourne where a street is now named after them.

Many accidents actually happen in the kitchen, they can be dangerous places, but i said nothing remotely like that, is your ploy to just accuse people of things which of course no matter what they say they have no hope of refuting a negative.

Sounds to me like you are hysterical! – there you go- are you hysterical?, even if you claim you aren’t- doubts linger and judging by your posts its quite possible!!.

Of course the alternative is adult discussion.

Every AFLW game to be broadcast live in landmark TV deal

The ball is not the biggest issue, it is the poor skills, lack of peripheral vision and understanding and game awareness, all these combined make the game quite dangerous to play for girls, combined with the twisting and turning sees the women have a much higher rate of knee injuries etc.

Every AFLW game to be broadcast live in landmark TV deal

Really not sure how successful this comp is going to be, its possible AFLX is a better game for women, less players, more open game, it took over 100 years before players in the men’s comp all used the accurate drop punt instead of just kicking the ball forward to a pack and more than likely turning it over, i see the same thing in the women’s comp, its pretty scrambly and unattractive.

I also think that women (in general) are not particularly suited to a high physical contact game, i think AFLX offers a less physical game.

I have nothing against women and girls playing, but i think overall a small minority are actually suited to the game, i have seen thousands of kids playing footy and if i was a East German or Chinese sports official i would be guiding plenty of them to other sports, they are just not suited.

Every AFLW game to be broadcast live in landmark TV deal

No one can doubt the enthusiasm and commitment of the players, lets hope the actual skill level and game style evolves to a decent standard. (quickly)

Must not lose sight of the fact that the old suburban grounds has enabled this comp to grow.

Every AFLW game to be broadcast live in landmark TV deal

Bill was a younger brother and in the 1908 WA team was listed as also being born in Tavistock in the UK, hard to pin down as team lists didnt list individual player names but if brothers were in teams it would be listed as Metherell (3) or Metherell (4) etc.

He could have learnt the drop punt from his brother via Norwood, he could have learnt it from Nipper Truscott, he could have developed it himself or any other player as Kalgoorlie at the time, as Kalgoorlie was full of players from all over Australia and some of the best players to play the game at the time.

Also the drop punt was probably developed by players in different parts of the country in isolation who were not aware of other players using it, it was really only the 1970’s that the kick was pushed at junior level uniformly across the country.

To give you some idea how many great players were around Kalgoorlie in the mid 1890’s onwards this is a good link ….https://australianfootball.com/articles/view/ted%2Browell%253A%2Bgoldfields%2Bchampion/555

From West Devon to Geelong, via the cape

You may be right and you may be wrong, or you may be a bit of both.

* Truscott played with at least 2 Metherell’s in 1903 for Mines Rovers, from Trove 20th June 1903 The Evening Star, (i didn’t look further after finding one match.)

* Truscott represented WA in 1908 and also in that team was Bill Metherell, father of Len and Jack who played for Subi and then Geelong, the boys who stated their Dad taught them to kick the drop punt style.( as per the above article)

I would have thought that Truscott would have learnt the kick from AF rather than bring it from Rugby, the need for accurate passing( kicking ) of the ball would have been far more important in the Australian game than rugby – you would have thought.

From West Devon to Geelong, via the cape

Hi, thanks for the reply, Sporting Globe Wednesday 17 May 1933, was the date for the bit about drop punts, Jack Dyer was mentioned in a similar type article around the same time period regarding drop punts as some of the first players who used them.
I also remember reading something about Collingwood on a Tasmanian tour in 1908 (?) first using the drop punt.
Everyone today considers the drop punt par for the course and a skill every footballer has, but you don’t have to go back far to see that drop punts were not used by every player, in fact the kick that Collingwoods Twiggy Dunne used to tie the 1977 GF against North Melbourne was what they termed a flat punt from 15 metres out directly in front, Twiggy Dunne was a CHF !
The Metherell boys played together at Subi in the late 1920’s and again together at Geelong in the 1930’s.

From West Devon to Geelong, via the cape

i would say plenty have been done, people just turn around and say no one will support it, which would be wrong IMO, it must be based either south or North, South as including Busselton, far southern suburbs of Perth and Bunbury, North as in Joondalup and the ever increasing far Northern suburbs.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

I think you will find that Bayswater area has strong soccer roots is because of the demographics post WW2, the call for a third team for me is based on $$, it is very expensive to go to games even with a membership, a third side should see membership become more affordable for families – like for ex Melbourne.

AFAIK Eagles membership is the most expensive in the country and they still have a waiting list, a third club would see a younger membership base as the Eagles are an older Eagles attending base, IMO a lack of a third team is actually detrimental in the long run getting people to follow the game, % wise relative to the population WA has less seats available for people to see the footy than Melbourne and Adelaide. The Dockers had record membership on the back of a pretty bad year – so just a matter of time before they max out as well.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

“Joondalup/Wanneroo: Little junior clubs and AFL facilities”.

What!, Joondalup Arena has pretty good facilities and as for small junior clubs, Whitfords, Joondalup/Kinross, Sorrento, Ocean Ridge, Wanneroo, Quinns etc all have between 800-1000 kids each and are within a 10-15 minute drive of each other.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Doubt it, no Melbourne clubs which are the absolute backbone of TV rights etc will go, the AFL has a billion $$ asset, when St Kilda was up and firing a few years ago now they had over 40,000 members (2010)(and i remember visiting some cousins who lived in Brighton and they were really the talk of the town, they actually have plenty of support.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

QLD may well be a RL state but places like the GC and Cairns have decent support for AF.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

Its not rocket science to introduce girls to boys at a function etc.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

Simples!, you cunningly matchmate new draftees to GC based girlfriends, clubs have been using this tactic since the dawn of time.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

You must remember the Southport FC wont let the Suns go anywhere, they have millions of $$ of assets and cash and ATM are building 120 room hotel. very similar to a Leagues club style setup.

Financial results for AFL clubs for 2018, Part I

Hasn’t worked for GWS yet, where is all their premierships.

Will young guns bring dismal Suns success?

WCE to make about 20 million profit!!, to add to 50 million alone in cash reserves.

Gee we need another team in WA, a great club is WCE but IMO a third team is needed.

It wouldn’t be to hard to see Freo go the same way after a couple of big seasons at the new stadium

Financial results for AFL clubs for 2018, Part I

Yarran wrecked his career and maybe his life by getting involved again with his loser mates, i have seen it happen time and again with blokes not being able to break the bonds of friendship from childhood to break out of drug and crime cycle because it is so easy and comfortable to fall back into.

Cases of unfulfilled potential in the AFL

Yer cheers, i have a few stories, just need the motivation to get them out, the goldfields of WA and its associated footy history does interest me as does Broken Hill.

I honestly think the Sandilands brothers should be considered for the AFL hall of fame, what may have started as an idea over a beer and a bit of fun really has quite a bit of historical context about it, AFAIK the soccer game in Sheffield England was organised by a power company looking for new clients and marketing it’s product, a bit different to the Wellington game. AFAIK the next football match under lights in NZ was a soccer game some 20 further years down the track.

Forgotten stories in football history

I must admit i assumed that as well, that somewhere along the line he was Italian, i was thinking Italian team of the century, the 19th century 🙂

Forgotten stories in football history

Yes, i would say at the time it was considered crazy by any standards, but in reality set the scene for what we take for granted without a second thought, even local clubs have fantastic lighting for training.

Forgotten stories in football history

Thanks for the reply – the Goldfields in WA has a great footy pedigree and history to match, what i can tell you about about the Electric Lighting that was unfortunately left out of the article is this …

FOOTBALL MATCH BY THE ELECTRIC LIGHT.

“The announcement that a Football Match, under the auspices of the Reform Clubs, would be played on the Basin Reserve by the electric light last night drew together a large concourse of spectators. There were about 2000, probably, in the Reserve itself, and the road around the enclosure was thronged with people, who somewhat shabbily wished to view the game without paying. Messrs. Proudfoot, of Dunedin, kindly lent for the occasion two of Siemens Brottiers Dynamo-Electric Light, each having an illuminating power equivalent to 8000 sperm candies.”

Forgotten stories in football history

Yep, cheers, great piece, sounds like i was overly critical but it was not my intention, was a quick post from my phone at work.

On another note Hawthorn took 35 years before they actually won a game at Victoria Park, joining in 1925 and not winning there until 1960.

AFL top 100: The legend - Alec Albiston

I can go back to about the Krakouer’s, WA players have been consistently undervalued East, in fact i would say WA players are even undervalued West.

Makes you wonder why a desperate club like North Melbourne and at the time they were desperate got the …..Krakouer’s, Cable, Glendinning, McCann etc etc ahead of every other club with money …and so it goes….

2018 AFL Rookie Draft results: Every player picked and where they went

What i can say is just last year apparently Tassie football was shot, dead and buried, with no draftees and no future – this year apparently – a miraculous comeback, more draftees than WA, NSW also had more draftees than WA.

Having seen colts footy in a variety of states this year i can guarantee that WA footy has much more depth, more talent and a much larger amount of kids playing playing the game at that age level.

Stand by for a number of Geelong type Kelly’s from WA.

2018 AFL Rookie Draft results: Every player picked and where they went