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Hi Micko,

Hence the need to assess his performances in domestic cricket, particularly for Gloucestershire v strong sides such as Yorkshire, and for Gentlemen v Players.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Ben,

A shame he offered such a small sample size of 18 games, from the 65 that Eng played in the 15 years before WWI.

For a direct comparison, during the last 15 years, Eng has played 185 games, and Anderson has participated in 150 of them.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Micko,

England, like the West Indies, has been very light on for left-handed fast men. Only these eight have taken 44 or more wickets-

Bill Voce (the most prolific, with 98)
Ryan Sidebottom
John Lever
George Hirst
Alan Mullally
Sam Curran
Frank Foster
Jeff Jones

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Nice to see the gloves being taken by someone who played 1 game for NSW, which was a final that it won-

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/twenty20-big-bash-2008-09-361245/new-south-wales-vs-victoria-final-361327/full-scorecard

The All Time XI For All Time: New Zealand

Great stuff Clay,

A shame the 1930s and ’40s criteria couldn’t accommodate Martin Donnelly, along with Dempster and Cowie. He was considered a brilliant batsman, and an all-time NZ great.

And did you consider Shane Bond ahead of Cairns, for the 2000s ? He makes many pundits’ all-time New Zealand XI.

The All Time XI For All Time: New Zealand

Hi Ben,

My reply to you hasn’t appeared yet. That seems to happen whenever a post includes hyperlinks. Hopefully not too much longer. But in summary, Charles Davis’ website was my source.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Nice reference, Wiki

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi ScottD,

You’re very welcome.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Ben,

My source is Charles Davis. His website includes ball-by-ball match reconstructions using original scorebooks, as well as hyperlinks to other significant sites. Well worth a trawl.

https://www.sportstats.com.au/bloghome.html

https://www.sportstats.com.au/hotscore.html

https://www.sportstats.com.au/zArchive/1800s/1902EA/1902EA5bbb1.pdf

Also the ACS-

https://archive.acscricket.com/famous_cricketers/84/index.html

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Wiki,

For sure. Last day, fourth innings, difficult pitch.

“Meaningful runs” indeed. Unless it’s suggested that at 5/48 chasing 263, there was no pressure because there was no expectation of winning, leaving him free to hit out…

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Micko,

Anyone can have one bad series, especially when you’ve only one Test under your belt at the time. Shame he didn’t return in 1903/04, 1907/08 and/or 1911/12. Instead he stayed home to work as a journalist, stockbroker, schoolteacher or as Gloucestershire County Cricket Club’s secretary.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Wiki,

I read somewhere recently that CA is negotiating with the AFL to extend the 2026/27 season at the MCG, as a one-off.

The Aus program currently includes five Tests in Ind during Jan/Feb, followed by two Tests at home to Ban during Mar.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Micko,

Aggressive English batsmen have been rare so have stood out. Jessop, Woolley, Compton. Restrained ones like Sutcliffe, Hutton, Boycott are fine as long as they go on with it. We don’t need more Tavares, and will probably never see his like again.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Wiki,

A shame the Larwoods, Tysons and Snows of English cricket are fleeting and rare.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Wiki,

Or bowl a dot-ball, add a fielder. Not much chance, I concede.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi matth,

Or when each fieldsman is blindfolded, and can only respond to spectator cries of “It’s over there.”

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

The English class system, and cricket’s amateurs and professionals.

Lord Hawke, Lord Harris, FS Jackson, Plum Warner, Gubby Allen. All legends of MCC administration, but also human and shaped by their privileged environment.

Jackson, Jardine and other captains were known for talking down to their professionals, who weren’t Oxbridge-educated. Lord Harris was aged 73 when he chaired the selection panel for England’s 1924/25 tour to Aus.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Woody, partly down to the amateur ethos of the time. Cricket wasn’t their career, so failing and getting sacked wasn’t a risk. Professionals would get dropped from County sides during school and university holidays, when amateurs became available for a few weeks. It happened to SF Barnes, so he went and played weekend league cricket which was far more lucrative and less onerous. And only amateurs, even part-time and or poor ones, could captain sides (but with a senior professional such as Wilfred Rhodes pulling the strings in reality).

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Agreed BG,

Historically, bowling has been a much harder trade in Aus, than in Eng. Tougher conditions, fewer first-class games in which to impress, and more competition for places with initially just three State sides to play for. So ultimately, bowlers have been far more Test-ready when first selected.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

David “The Reverend” Warner, The Rev David Sheppard

Birth certificates have been known to have inadvertent mis-spellings, that then last for someone’s whole life.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Opening the tournament with USA v Canada is a nice touch.

I just hope the pitches in the USA are good ones for T20.

Head and shoulders above: Why Trav is the key to Australia's T20 World Cup success

Hi Clay,

And every time I read that a current player must be better because he’s bigger, faster, stronger and better coached, I ask myself how he’d go if he suddenly woke up in 1902 with all its limitations and differences.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Choppy, I just got it. Hope His Eminence does too.

Ian Bishop can bowl from the other end.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Hi Your Eminence,

By my calculations he would have reached his ton in 75 balls, rather than 77, if his 3 shots into the pavilion had been scored as sixes rather than fours.

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

Thanks for the offer TLN, but first I’d need a bigger house !

The true inventor of Bazball was born 150 years ago, and his records are still utterly bonkers

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