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A Geelong supporter watching with sadness from abroad as the GFC is shredded by the joint ego's of Chris Scott and Brian Cook. Cook has been great for the club but it's time for change at the GFC. I live by the following quote 'One of the symptoms of approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important, and that to take a holiday would bring all kinds of disaster. If I were a medical man, I should prescribe a holiday to any patient who considered his or her work important.'- Bertrand Russell

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Oh sorry Don I forgot every player and team plays just to make finals. Who cares about winning any? Everybody always remembers all those teams that made finals – just look at the VFL/AFL history books. Plonk.

Chris Scott is to blame for Geelong's mediocrity

Tall poppy syndrome? I loved Bomber and Blighty, I also love Hardwick and Beveridge, I even like Bucks. This has nothing to do with what you perceive to be tall poppy syndrome I appreciate great achievers in the game too. It’s just Scott hasn’t achieved anything with Geelong in the last 6 years except a woeful finals winning percentage and pathetic MCG winning percentage. Never in the history of the game has there been a great achiever as a coach with that combination of poor numbers.

Chris Scott is to blame for Geelong's mediocrity

I’d say by the over 500 likes on Facebook this article received that a touch more than 2 Geelong supporters feel this way. You only have to look at the GFC Facebook page, listen to talk back on K-Rock or any other radio station after Geelong games, to feel the Geelong supporters frustration and fury at Chris Scott building and quickly gathering momentum. As a Freo supporter I don’t know why you’re so invested in Geelong and Chris Scott?

Chris Scott is to blame for Geelong's mediocrity

I love this article, I love everything about it! It’s just so refreshing to see other Geelong supporters finally beginning to understand what I’ve known for so long.

Chris Scott is to blame for Geelong's mediocrity

Parsons will be absolutely nothing. He won’t be on an AFL list in 2 years. The others I agree seem to be good but all I was arguing in my piece was that really you could only say 2 of them were great young players that will go on with it. While that’s an educated guess it seems more certain that Ratugolea and Henry will become elite players than any of the rest. Also as I pointed out the fact remains we haven’t had a single player picked in the squads let alone teams of the 22 under 22 in both 2017 and 18 and that has to be of some real concern for a team poised to lose the entire core of their team over the next 2/3 seasons.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

I think it’s quite obvious Geelong’s recruitment points to a club that is thinking success in the now. I don’t think they’ll have that success and I think their topping up recruitment policy is a complete waste of time. My argument is I think Geelong should have a clear plan for winning their next flag and that will only come from giving up on this topping up nonsense and starting a proper rebuild like Bomber Thompson did back in the early 2000s or most recently Richmond and the Bulldogs did to win their premierships. I believe and evidence backs it up that the cohesion needed within a team to succeed only comes from growing, developing, and playing together for a significant period of time. To that end you have much to look forward to in the next 3/4 years as Brisbane fan when you find yourself genuinely competing for a flag.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Congratulations on your letter writing. You clearly enjoy accepting mediocrity from the club – I don’t. Also thanks for the consistent views of my articles I can now count on from readers such as yourself.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

I use clear evidence to back up my claims. These are not baseless arguments – they’re just arguments you don’t like to hear in your little navy blue and white fairy world where nothing the GFC does is ever wrong or should ever be critiqued.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Where did I say anything about only the top 10 players winning you a premiership? I was simply giving you a more precise definition to work with in regards to development of young players at Geelong. We haven’t developed one player from the under 18s in 6 years that would be considered top 10 at the club.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Cat – So you think without Danger, Ablett, Selwood, Hawkins, Scott Selwood, Henderson, Rhys Stanley, Zach Smith, and Zach Tuohy – we’d be competitive? If you took the Hawks you mentioned out of their line-up they’d still have their best two mids and arguably the best young key position player in the game (Sicily) in their line-up, with the Tiges they’d still have the best player in the game in their line-up (Dusty) plus the entire fleet of small forwards Prestia etc. Both those teams would wipe the floor with us in such a scenario. Regardless my point related to the fact they’re both clearly in premiership contention when we are not. In such circumstances a clean out and proper rebuild is needed.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

They’re not anti-Geelong. Would an article critical of the current Australian govt mean you’re anti-Australian? I’m a passionate supporter who disagrees with the current direction of the club. From my point of view they completely pro-Geelong as I try to point out obvious flaws within the club and the way they go about it with the hope of positive change which the mainstream media completely ignores. There are many Geelong fans increasingly frustrated by our pathetic finals record and lack of direction with list management that the club displays.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

I’ll take the poultry whack. It is an amusing typo. Success as you must understand being a Lions fan is relative. Success for the Lions this year pre-season of course would’ve been measured differently to success for a premiership favourite like Geelong. If you can’t understand that then you’re more vague than the argument against my piece you just delivered.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

A player capable of winning the team a Premiership. To help you along I’ll change the definition to help your argument we’ll make it ‘a player in the best 10 at the club’ and you’ll still be left holding nothing but an empty bag of misguided Geelong parochialism

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Cat – in short they’d still be in a hell of a lot better position than Geelong.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Fair point but look at the age of Richmond’s core group of players compared with Geelong’s. Yes we’ve debuted a lot of kids over the last two seasons but hardly any have gone on to establish themselves. Buzza has regressed this year as has Parfitt, Parsons is a joke…As per the point I made before you can play kids all you want but if you fail to develop them to any higher level what’s the point? You take the players 28 or over out of Geelong’s team and we’re a wreck.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Well said reuster75.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

They were both very young teams on the way to making their own history. We’re an old team (the 3rd oldest in the comp actually) that has the same core group of players and unimaginative coach that have failed us for years now in finals when it counts.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Anyone can play debutants it’s no big deal. Creating premiership standard players out of them is what counts and Geelong has had a frankly dismal record at doing that over the last 6 years.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

I completely disagree Peter The Scribe. Richmond had 6 of their starting 22 out against Geelong and were never really headed till the last few minutes due to falling asleep a bit at the wheel. Should Geelong make the finals, history clearly shows they’ll go nowhere in them and simply add to their horrendous finals record over the last 6 years. This was a team that clearly the club thought should be contending for the flag this season (based on it’s recruitment of Ablett) as did many supporters and media experts and the simple fact is – it isn’t.

Modern Geelong myths that need to be dispelled

Ok. I wasn’t sure of his injury status. Thanks for confirmation.

Are the battered Giants the most credible threat to Richmond’s crown?

Yep The Giants are the only ones for mine that can cause an upset on GF day but only if they keep playing their smaller forward line. If Patton’s fit they must have the courage not to play him.

Are the battered Giants the most credible threat to Richmond’s crown?

I wouldn’t worry. Geelong is by far the most defensive team in the 8 and they’ll go nowhere in September. West Coast, Richmond, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Collingwood all play pretty attacking footy most of the time and are capable of high scoring. Geelong’s last 3 scores at the MCG are 66, 50, 65 no team will win finals at the ‘G’ scoring that low against Richmond, Melbourne etc.

Richmond's win over Geelong was a win for football

Thanks @The Joy of X. It’s nice to hear some positive feedback. I’m glad you liked it as I feel it’s important to point out the harsh truth whether it goes against the majority of public opinion or not.

Richmond's win over Geelong was a win for football

Well they’ve beat us on the ‘G’ two years in a row CAT? Seems pace on the MCG against super defensive teams might be important doesn’t it?

Richmond's win over Geelong was a win for football

I wasn’t talking about the Lions of the past I was talking about the young team you’re developing now. I think you misread my comments.

Richmond's win over Geelong was a win for football

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