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Was a cox in rowing and a coach in rugby, so its a case of 'do as I say, not as I do'. Perfect for a Roarer

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Nice work Ben, but you forgot my favourite one- ‘no matter where you go, you’ve got to take yourself with you’.

Read this before signing part 1: The players

We clearly have quite different ideas of heroism. A hero actually does something.

I can’t find anywhere in any reports that the four of them fronted up to Arthur and Clarke and said ‘this is corporate horse pucky and we’re not standing for it.’

No. They just ignored the exercise.

Heroic indeed.

At least if they made a stand and launched a tirade against the ‘corporate trend in Australian sport’ I would respect them. They would then at least be part of the solution.

They’d be doing something.

Please don’t misinterpret apathy for heroism

Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

“a lot of guys came to my room and did a presentation, a few guys have written fantastic emails, some guys put notes under my door, it was their preference.”- Really, this would hardly seem like a demand for extensive and unreasonable work.

Instead, it would seem merely the coach and captain asking for a bit of buy-in from the players.

They’ve just asked for some involvement and had it thrown in their faces. I could suggest that their inaction is a reflection of this quartet’s reluctance to accept any responsibility. Surely they’d prefer to blame others, the coach, captain and management.

All to often in sport do we see players nodding along in team meetings, only to walk out of the team room and throw stones. Arthur and Clarke have simply asked everyone to be honest and let them know their opinion.

Not doing so is cowardice. In India, and in England, courage is the minimum requirement.

The fact that Shane Watson publicly threw his toys out of the cot pretty well backs up my contention.

Lee Furlong is going have to look after more children than she first thought.

Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

Fred – I think you may find that Warney went to Brighton Grammar, an APS school.

Also David, I remember Peter Philpott saying when he was teaching at King’s that GPS cricketers didn’t reach the top because they played on turf too early. Batsmen didn’t develop their shots because of the uneven bounce, and bowlers didn’t have to work hard enough for their wickets.

That, and the fact that they weren’t playing grade by 16.

Another thing I recall is that Kings produced a test cricketer by the name of Massie in the late 19th Century.

Not that it makes much of a difference to your argument.

Jackson Bird breaks a GPS drought

Gee David,

I’m not sure whether Joe Roff would entirely agree with that.

How many tris did he score?

Signing Israel Folau is a bad call

Greg Growden is actually a South Australian, who grew up supporting the Port Adelaide Magpies. While I can’t be sure, I don’t think he knew who William Webb Ellis was until he arrived at the SMH.

That said, his background does not inhibit his ability to write about rugby, or indeed have an opinion about the game.

I wonder if Twtter was around when he took over from Jim Webster at the SMH, would Campo have tweeted: Why does the SMH get a South Australian to write about Rugby? Webster was a great journo (sic) and now we have someone who has no idea about the game!

In the end it’s just a lazy ad hominem argument. She doesn’t agree with Campo, so the only way to discredit her opinion is to question her credentials via gender.

And who said Alan Jones taught him nothing!

CAMPO: What I really meant with my Tweet

Deans demeanor under pressure, while impressive, may be working to his detriment.

When discussing Paul Thompson, the Gold medal winning coach of GB rowing, Reinhold Baatchi- another gold winning coach- was heard to say; “They complain about Thommo because he’s difficult. But isn’t that the first thing you want in a coach?”

Looking back at the best coaches this country has produced- Don Talbot, Rick Charlesworth, Rod Macqueen, Bob Dwyer, Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Joyce Brown – one trait stands out alongside their brilliant minds and work ethics. Their ability to be unreasonable. All were quite pig-headed when it came to achieving their goals. All had the ability to strip paint from a wall if you stood in their way.

In short, they could all be difficult.

Perhaps if Robbie was a bit more bloody-minded and vocal towards those who seek to derail him, we’d be a bit more supportive.

If he called Campo to account for his blatherings, or engaged Quade head on, or even gave the ARU a mouthful for scheduling that Test against Scotland, perhaps we’d like him more. More importantly, maybe we’d see a bit more dogged determination from his team.

Personally, I don’t want ‘grace under pressure’. I want ‘a wild animal trapped in a corner.’

The Wallabies are coming home with a wet sail

True Brett, but I guess the gist of my post is that he may be creating a legacy in spite of himself.

And while his employment may soon become untenable, that unintended legacy will be a considerable boost to his successor.

Deans may be setting Australia up to win the World Cup

I agree with you Uncle.

However, I may have not made my point clearly concerning the 1982 tour. The Queenslanders left prior to the departure of the tour, not prior to Dwyer’s departure.

Yes it is far fetched to suggest that the Queenslanders didn’t play for Dwyer. And I didn’t mean to suggest that.

The point is, that the unavailability of those players then created a void filled by others. When they returned, as you mentioned, the player pool was stronger.

I’m hoping that this will be the case this time around.

Deans may be setting Australia up to win the World Cup

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