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Rugby, cricket and racing tragic. Why do they even have other sports? “Your missing a great game ref !”

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Thanks Rob Simmons and thanks to those making positive comments about his contribution. Locks generally come in two types, good line out men and good scrummagers. Simmons Is both. He has forgotten more about lineouts than the rest of current locks know, collectively! Historically some out greats were incomplete players….Campese, Poidevin. KEY jobs are called that for a reason.

Waratahs skipper Rob Simmons seals move overseas

Thanks for calling out this rubbish. Of course RA should pursue JS. As a fan of both codes, it is interesting to observe the different cultures among journalists and commentators. For a long time we have had the scenario where rugby minds it’s own business but rugby league commentators can’t help but bash rugby whenever they get the chance. In business it is poor form to bag your opposition. Ben Ikin the latest culprit, Roy Masters the longest serving. So called rugby people like Alan Jones are often pushing their own agenda and interests, not the games’. Jones bagging Johnson and Penny as they fight an uphill battle is hardly jumping in the trenches to help out. PS Fair credit to Castle where it is due.

The Wrap: Truth proves elusive as Superman Suaalii saga rages on

You are spot on. Hanigan had a blinder. Credit where it is due.

Brumbies deny Waratahs in thriller

Some good points here Jez. I agreee that they finally got the NRC right with simple city v country themes for NSW and Qld and then Melbourne, Canberra and Perth. In reality though, was it only good for player development and for rusted on rugby followers, interested in seeing the new guys emerge? A club comp needs to include all or nothing ie be a knockout, otherwise all the talent and support will flow to a few clubs. How does a club resource and plan for that? I actually think push for either what we are watching right now, or all 5 state “club” sides in with the Kiwis in a Super Rugby comp, pre tests. THEN while the Wallabies are playing tests, these same 5 “clubs” play each other in an NRC comp, without their Wallabies. SAME clubs, same brands, same rivalry, same tribalism, same staff, admin and overheads and actually the same players that would be in the 7 NRC teams, (5 out of 7 anyway as 2 less teams). With say 25-30 Wallabies that bloods 25-30 new players each year which is enough? Way too simple?

Dear Rugby Australia, make the NRC the main game

Agree. Defence (as opposed to just tackling ie communication and decision making) is 50% of the game. Kicking, securing the breakdown, kick chasing, kick receiving, positional play etc all part of the job description. The days of the attacking player that lacks these other skills are gone. The good news is that most of these skills are learned.

Super Rugby AU Round 3 teams: Banks back for Brumbies, Tahs send young guns to the bench

Hanigan actually played all of his schoolboys and Aus U20s career in the row before “they” at the Wallabies canned Fardy and then had to manufacture a blindside flanker in a hurry and Hanigan was the only line-out option in that jersey (over MacMahon, Samu etc). He copped plenty but was learning a new role at the highest level. Good match up this week. The Brumbies scrum was surprisingly vulnerable against the Rebels with some big reputations being tarnished. Hopefully the Waratahs can cause an upset and breath some life into the comp ala the Blues.

Super Rugby AU Round 3 teams: Banks back for Brumbies, Tahs send young guns to the bench

AB’s went away from that policy at the recent RWC – to their peril! The Cusack example ie the smart leader with less talent, can be seen in many other teams eg Fitzsimmons (until recently) at the Waratahs, Bryce Hegarty at the Reds, perhaps Tom English in the centres at Rebels. Conrad Smith was the all time great at this role, bringing out the superstar in Nonu. AAC had a lot of it. Simmons for all his passiveness, would have been picked for the RWC soley on his set piece, technical knowledge on the training paddock. He is captaining the Waratahs for the same reason ie the stuff we can’t see but the coaches and players can. It’s noteworthy that when Cusack comes off the bench, he runs the discussion in the huddle. Too many huddles for mine btw, but that’s another story.

Super Rugby AU Round 3 teams: Banks back for Brumbies, Tahs send young guns to the bench

Agree but when you think it through it’s the same players. If you want to blood a coach, just do it under that framework.

Reds win shows the value of the National Rugby Championship as Australian rugby’s premier development competition

Maybe it’s just me but aren’t we currently watching the future for the NRC!! Once super rugby is over and the Wallabies are playing tests, the super rugby clubs should play each other in the NRC! All those fringe players on contracts plus a few potentials come up from grade to play. Yes, at a business level, no duplication. Same clubs, same fan base, better leverage on all those business overheads of coaches, managers, administrators etc. more tv rights bargaining power.

Reds win shows the value of the National Rugby Championship as Australian rugby’s premier development competition

Yes most props are actually understated introverts. He did his job well. No need for the chirpy send off to a 20 year old prop that would normally be learning his trade in the Shute Shield nor the late hits on a 20 year old 80 kg fly half. It wasn’t lost on Swinton.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Spot on pm. Some of the others just need less hype and time to grow but those 3 were standouts. Thor targeted Harrison…..on one leg after kicking. Poor form. Swinton had 3 of the 4 biggest hits in the game. He targeted Thor. Bit o theatrics afterwards but I liked it lads.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

No! A contest, a flawed but willing contest, between hungry, young blokes was good enough. Good read. Thanks Ando. No more ghosting, get busy writing.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Yes Maddocks was sublime. So much time, kicking with both feet ( un-noticed by our ranting commentary).superb under the high ball, defence seemed fine.

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Yes yes. everyone likes a contest at the breakdown but if you cop a couple of penalties as the attacking team, playing with ball hand in in your own half you soon start kicking it away. Then add this ridiculous new 50-22 incentive and holding onto it on your side of half way seems crazy?

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Both a bit average, as is the way in the first few games of any series. I enjoyed a flawed but willing and even contest though. The frustrations of watching green but hungry young blokes are much more fun than the frustrations of watching an aging star fade. So many 20 year olds. A lot of them could have been well served by a year of colts then ayear or two in first grade before we saw them on this stage. Looking forward to this comp as it has that bit of NRC about it where we get to see these young guys develop. Both sides wanted it badly which was good enough. Hegarty is underrated by those looking for size and speed, not smarts. Yes just great to have it back,

Super Rugby AU: A new hope for the Waratahs?

Tough few games for the Tahs pre-covit. Expecting Newsome to win you over at 13. Shoulder re-con in the off-season and will be better for the recovery time. Those close to action rate him, hence the VC. Keen to see the young guys get a run.

Waratahs smashed by injury ahead of Super Rugby AU opener

and alongside Will Harrison!

Waratahs smashed by injury ahead of Super Rugby AU opener

Wrong and right! Harrison is tough for a bloke with nice hair

Waratahs smashed by injury ahead of Super Rugby AU opener

That’s obviously the coach’s view, but I do see what Wessles likes in Billy Meakes – limited natural assets, good footy brain. Agree 12 or 15 for RH and forget playing him 10, 13, 11 and 14. RH needs to be able to boast that he is the best in a position for his club first. I think the Rebels picking English over RH at 13 raised more eyebrows? Or was he selecting Marika and Maddocks on the wings over both RH and English ??

Will Dave Rennie remember Australia’s forgotten man?

Most of the other utility players that come to mind start out in the back 3 positions before moving into the mid field eg Larkham. Mortlock, AAC, Herbert and Foley. Beale is the exception who played 10, then 15 before reinventing himself as a 12 to make way for Folou. Many young 10s have been introduced in the simpler 12 role and have been able to then play both eg Dan Carter, Michael Lynagh, Pat Howard, Berrick Barnes and Matt Giteau. Is it a bad thing? Do they actually return to their favoured position all the better for it??

Will Dave Rennie remember Australia’s forgotten man?

I like RH but the flip side to this discussion is that he can’t complain about getting a go, nor a go at a particular position, Both the Rebels and Wallabies have tried him everywhere! Wessels has rated Meakes a better 12, English a better 13 and DHP a better 15. Those guys have then not been rated highly enough to play those positions for the Wallabies ( except for a few for DHP). Are they the forgotten men? RH had the gold 13 jersey gifted to him for a few test when others were out of consideration but couldn’t nail it down. Leave Reece on the pine and go with a 6-2 bench ??? #harshbutfair!

Will Dave Rennie remember Australia’s forgotten man?

Things are getting heated in the kitchen! Sometimes when there is an argument between two sides, trying to work out WHO is right, you need a non-biased discussion to work out WHAT is right. When the argument is so heated between option A and Option B , it tells you should be looking to an option C.
Kearns = Newscorp and is strong in simple areas where Raelene is not eg old boys club, charisma. I have never been a Raelene supporter after the mess she left the Bulldogs in, but neither can I support the News agenda. News can buy the rights to televise the game, but they don’t own the game.

Captains' call offers nothing by way of real Rugby Australia solutions

Nope. That is why what Brad Thorn has done is so remarkable. SBW, Teo, Burgess all played at 12. Thorn had to learn lineouts, scrummaging etc. Peter Ryan had played Australian School Boys in rugby. Not many forwards successes heading the other way either excl. Scott Gourley who again, would have played plenty of league growing up in Narrabri.

The ten best league-to-union converts

Thorm and SBW won wherever they went, in both codes. I think they must have a big influence on the culture and work ethic of the teams in which they played. Thorn is the standout because playing in the second row in rugby involves lineouts, scrummaging , rucking and mauling etc ie completely different sport. The rest used the same/ similar skill set. They fall into 3 categories. They were either forwards in league and move to the backs in rugby (Burgess and SBW). The rest either played rugby as kids and so the could hit the ground running ( Rogers, Craig Wing, all the Fijians and one forward, Peter Ryan). The rest generally played in the back three using similar skills (Folau, Robinson, Sailor). Thorn a standout for these reasons. SBW second because he mastered the complexities of playing anywhere exept the back 3, (defence mainly) without a background in it. SBW succeeded whereas as Tahu struggled as did Burgess and Teo to a lesser extent.

The ten best league-to-union converts

The rugby players that have gone to rugby league have 2 destinct advantages over the leagueplayers that have crossed to rugby. Firstly, many of them played rugby league as kids, in Australia anyway. Junior rugby is a reasonably recent pheanomena, this century. Before that soccer or rugby league or both, got kids started and playing rugby was something that came later at high school or club. The second advantage is that rugby league is a lot simpler, you runpass tackle and one or two people also kick. No rucks, mauls, pilfers, lineouts, off the ground pop up passes, etc

The ten best league-to-union converts