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I agree. My mates in my Broncos chat would all agree too. Kennedy is not a starter (with Haas, James, Jensen, Hetherington and Carrigan all able to play prop he may not even make the 17 some weeks). Oates and Isaako would be injury cover at best if they play like they did in 2021. Cobbo is a gun, we have to play him in the 17 to keep him. Not sure why we would sign Lee if he is not a likely starter. I think he is a solid defender too so may even be ahead of Farnworth (who I do rate) in the centre stocks.

NRL 2022 Radar: Broncos drought won't end any time soon

I think full strength in 2022 looks like:

1. Niu
2. Cobbo
3. Lee
4. Staggs
5. Farnworth
6. Gamble
7. Reynolds (C)
8. Haas
9. Turpin
10. James
11. Riki
12. Capewell
13. Carrigan

14. Hetherington (back up hooker/lock) or Paix (back up hooker/halves) depending on tactics
15. Kennedy/Flegler when back
16. Jensen
17. Robati

I rate Hetherington highly, would consider giving Carrington some time at prop and starting Hetherington in 13 some weeks. I think that side is suddenly looking a lot stronger than the one in the article, especially with these wings and this bench. Not sure why we would have bought Brenko Lee (an Origin player) if he isn’t in our 17 most weeks also.

NRL 2022 Radar: Broncos drought won't end any time soon

100%. I picked up on that too. The poor games Niu has had have been poor all around from the team. He also got thrust into his NRL career amidst the Seibold era when we were losing plenty of games and were starting blokes like an unfit T’eo and the rest of our backline consisted of Arthars and Kennar. If you actually watched him in 2021 he had more good games than bad and was one of our more valuable backs – and I think is a worthy first choice fullback next year

NRL 2022 Radar: Broncos drought won't end any time soon

Agree with all that. Definitely missing a game manager since Lockyer. And would have made a play for Finucane also

NRL 2022 Radar: Broncos drought won't end any time soon

Move along, nothing to see here that hasn’t been repeated ad nauseum about the Broncos in the past season and going into season 2022. Of course we would be performing well to make the bottom half of the 8 next season! There is nothing new there.

The article also makes little sense. We have apparently been underachieving since Darren Lockyer (one of the NRL’s all-time GOATs) retired. We have been fielding teams of comparative nobodies since Lockyer retired, so hardly underachieving when making the finals most years since Locky retired with nobodies.

One minute Suttor says we haven’t hung onto top-line talent like Coates, then a few lines down he says Coates has been underperforming! I agree – he drops too much ball and misses too many tackles to be considered worth keeping – especially with Cobbo coming through (and Mead and Pereira for mine are more dependable).

Apparently Fifita, Walsh and Walker are ‘top-line talent’. I’m tired of this narrative – Walsh and Walker are young and we couldn’t afford, culturally, to blood them and let them without experienced leaders next to them (which we have now in Reynolds). And Walsh in particular was asking too much. I don’t think any of that trio lived up to their price tag in 2021 (not to say that they won’t be great someday) but you can’t hang onto everyone. At least he didn’t say we should have kept Dearden – look how great he went up North.

Anyway, don’t let facts get in the way of a story bashing the Broncos

NRL 2022 Radar: Broncos drought won't end any time soon

I agree. I am saying that having lived on Northside of Brisbane all of my life, most people I have met (Rugby League or not) would identify with Moreton Bay as a location they are from. Many from Brisbane – not from Redcliffe – would have also played for the Dolphins. I think Redcliffe Dolphins or probably better Moreton Bay Dolphins is the best fit.

Manchester United also are not even based in Manchester, yet nobody disputes that they represent that city. Hence Brisbane Dolphins would also work.

Moreton Bay takes Dolphins fight to NRL

Agreed – Dolphins is too generic to go on its own. Everyone knows Crusaders or Highlanders are NZ Rugby teams as they are unique. Just ‘The Dolphins’ when referred to in the media etc could be the Aussie swimming team or the Miami Dolphins

Moreton Bay takes Dolphins fight to NRL

Went to school on the Brisbane side of the bridge. Plenty of movement between the two regions by families for school, sport, work, retail etc. Pretty sure plenty of Redcliffe junior players came from Northside of Brisbane as it has always been a strong club. I don’t think the Dolphins would have any trouble attracting fans who live in Brighton, Sandgate, Shorncliffe, Deagon and Bracken Ridge for example

Moreton Bay takes Dolphins fight to NRL

Redcliffe is part of Greater Brisbane. So is Ipswich.

Source: lived in Brisbane council area all my life!

Moreton Bay takes Dolphins fight to NRL

Moreton or Moreton Bay is synonymous with the whole Greater Brisbane region. Moreton Bay Dolphins is the perfect name. Brisbane was originally the Moreton Bay Penal Settlement. The actual bay stretches from Bribie Island/Caboolture to Cleveland/Redlands. There are Moreton Bay tourist drives through the Northern and Southern suburbs of Brisbane (through Wynnum and Manly on Southside). There are schools called Moreton Bay as far south as Manly and as far west as Ipswich (West Moreton). The health district around Ipswich is even called West Moreton. If even some of these people see themselves as part of Moreton Bay (not to mention the large population of people who actually live in Moreton Bay Council) then they will be an incredibly well supported team.

Quentin Hull on the radio said it well this week when he said do all Carlton supporters live in Carlton or St George supporters live in St George (or even Sydney)? No – there are plenty who will identify with Moreton Bay or Redcliffe Dolphins who don’t live in the area anyway, so avoiding geographic identifiers is pointless.

Moreton Bay takes Dolphins fight to NRL

Different sport so different beast for one thing. Saying Brisbane Lions is a Fitroy team or that Brisbane Lions fans are supporting a Melbourne team is a convenient misrepresentation of the truth. Brisbane Lions are a merger between the Fitzroy Lions and the Brisbane Bears (BBFFC is the crest). Many Queenslanders who supported them already supported the Bears.

But I’m not talking about the AFL. The point is we have League teams and history here and we don’t need NSW failed teams transplanted

Heritage vs Expansion: Full time for the Bears or one final chance?

As a Broncos member, I would be willing to sacrifice a home game at Suncorp for this for sure. My idea would be to have it over two rounds, but that may not be logistically possible and the more important part would be the formal arrangement with fans, sponsors and development players that every club would be mandated to have. So as long as each club took a game to their adopted region, Would be happy

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Thanks mate. What is your idea for legends of league round?

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Great idea

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Yep there would be an element of tourism here too which would support the local industry. How good would it be to travel to see your team play in the regions? See the region, stay a weekend, see your team

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Good on you, mate, for growing the game in your region

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Bears? It’s spelt D-E-V-I-L-S

I don’t know a single person in North Brisbane who would support a relocated Sydney team

Heritage vs Expansion: Full time for the Bears or one final chance?

Exactly. Old Trafford is not in Manchester proper. LA Angels are in Anaheim not LA. Washington’s NFL team is based in Virginia an plays in Maryland.

Based on these precedents, what does it really matter if Brisbane Dolphins play mostly in Brisbane but represent Moreton

What's in a name like the Dolphins?

Yeah my club partnerships are really only a suggestion. I think they should do something like this next season – and Perth would definitely be getting a game or 2 until a new team came in of it were up to me. I’m not sure when magic round is up for grabs by a new host but Perth would be a good candidate

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Yeah I also considered Geelong for the Storm. The stadium may be more NRL ready than Hobart also. But any Geelong RL fans probably already travel to AAMI park for games

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Well – no I don’t actually. I don’t think they are full of them. I think there is an appetite there though. I am talking about playing one game per year in each, not 12 rounds mate.
Christchurch’s most recent Manly attendance was 17000 (https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/104595314/manlys-loss-to-warriors-doesnt-dent-enthusiasm-for-christchurch)

Dunedin got 15000 to a pre season trial according to https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/forsyth-barr-stadium/crowds

Those crowds are reasonable compared to Sydney figures. The concept is not supposed to be all about crowds anyway.

Fiji has the Silktails in RL so yes there must be some appetite for league there. Suva has hosted RU tests so they are able to hold large events safely and I think a game of NRL could be attractive for the Fiji Government.

It is one game after all. If a location didn’t work, there are plenty like Dubbo and Mudgee not on my list that could be swapped in. But I would aim for long term relationships

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Yeah I was aware of Manly taking home games there as well. Manly could have CC and Roosters could have somewhere like Christchurch but would be less organic relationship for them (tried to keep as many logical or existing relationships as I could). Thanks for your feedback, I’m no expert on NSW regional affiliations

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Potentially if this idea was to get off the ground in short term, Souths would still be encouraged to take a game there. But I have Perth as home to the eventual 18th team in my table so no need for another club to take it under its wing.

Grow the Game Round: How the NRL can take top-grade footy to untapped areas

Hot take. You do you man, that seems entirely based on opinion. His name is Kurt by the way, Luke is his brother and played in the halves.

A couple of things – he was selected at back row in Origin last year originally, and then was moved to centre at last minute due to injury (I think to Brenko Lee from memory). So it wasn’t like he couldn’t get a spot at second row. He has filled that hole(!) since.

We also don’t know the value of his contract. If we have picked him up for south of 400k and he plays most games in the next few years then that is a great signing imo.

Kurt Capewell joins Broncos as part of rebuild

That’s my point though. If you are going to base it on heresay or opinion, it seems just as valid to look at people on a train (neither would be suitable metrics).

Didn’t know about the population difference, but I would’ve thought North stretches further out than Southside and so could encapsulate more people (who may consider themselves Northside but may not be in city limits). Anyway it doesn’t really matter, just think it’s one of those things that will never and can never be measured

New Jets NRL bid could soar above rivals

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