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hahah. 😂 OK mate, sure you did.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

hahah. 😁 OK mate. This is your post…

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June 30th 2020 @ 7:31pm

Sigh…

So it (coaches “bailing before the end of their contract”) doesn’t happen “all the time” after all.

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That isn’t what I wrote, you made two convenient changes, so no I didn’t over reach at all. My point’s very clear and very accurate.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

verbatim? Since you seem to be entertained by games of semantics…check again

What I said: ‘Bailing before the end of the contract happens all the time’
What u said: ‘coaches “bailing before the end of their contract”’

Two differences; 1) You added the word coaches and, 2) you changed “the” to “their”. Those differences create a very different meaning from what I wrote.
Not surprisingly the examples I gave don’t exactly support what you wrote but they do support what I wrote.

Still no coach who’s coached out their final year in a contract? Be amazing if you could find a coach who’s done that at different teams.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

Ah so you’re adding text to what I said. Quality.

In any case I’ve given you several, yet you don’t seem to be able to name a few coaches who coached the final year of their contract.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

Sigh…let’s see

Brian Smith, sacked by the roosters a year early in 2012, resigned from Wakefield early
Des Hasler and the Bulldogs parted company early, same with Manly before that
Anthony Griffin at Penrith

The list goes on. Some get sacked, some resign, some it’s mutual. The lame duck coach doesn’t last. Want more evidence than that? Try google. It might even help you find the rare case where a coach does see out a contract.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

Oh gees. Another media bloke getting stroppy because Wayne didn’t give them the quote he wants.

A 16% job completion rate? Show me an NRL coach who coached out their final year in multiple contracts. Bailing before the end of the contract happens all the time.

And remember old man Bennet doesn’t have contracts. Only hand shakes apparently.

Why else might he get grumpy at the media? Because he always does or because he wants to keep his players’ minds on the game and not distracted by, wait do I have a coach here next year?

And I don’t suppose the media asking these questions has any agenda or anything…. They’re just innocently enquiring because it’s interesting… Not trying to get clicks or anything, naaah.

It’s Bennet who’s being unreasonable.

Wayne Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on when firing up about his future

Not sure why Smith is relevant here but sure Pocock has greater impact at the cleanout. Comparing those numbers above though, I can see the value of both of them. Hooper’s offensive numbers are excellent.

Why Dave Rennie will have to build his Wallabies from the ground up

😂 auto-correct!!

Why Dave Rennie will have to build his Wallabies from the ground up

I wanted to see these stats showing Hooper as poor because I always notice his weak clean outs when watching live and think he’s ineffective (despite previous excellent articles from Nic highlighting the opposite). But hole smokes, they’re good numbers.

While a higher score for “effectiveness” would be ideal, it’s impressive how involved he is. And how well he and Pocock complement each other.

Why Dave Rennie will have to build his Wallabies from the ground up

I see what you mean, like a history of results that they can be proud of. Cheers.

On the second point, I guess it is that, not wanting to play for the coach. But gees, now more than ever they’re playing for the fans. Although to be fair, they aren’t super heroes and are no doubt struggling with the uncertainty of the world themselves.

How much pressure is Anthony Seibold under?

“This is one of the proudest clubs in the game,”

What does that mean? I thought every club would claim to be proud. If you were ranking them on pride, which club would be on the bottom?

As for the broncs, something seems very wrong in that team. I know the coach gets the pressure but if the players can’t be bothered to turn up for the fans, especially at a time like this, then they don’t deserve the jersey. With so many people out of work, they should be ripping in every week.

How much pressure is Anthony Seibold under?

Cripes that would be a hard ball world!

Has South African rugby let the genie out of the bottle?

Yeah true but thats a different point. Du Toit is not famous solely because of his own efforts. He relies on his team mates and opposition players for his own image. Cropping them out doesn’t change the fact that he’s only impressive relative to them.

Without them he’s just some other big bloke going about his day.

Has South African rugby let the genie out of the bottle?

I don’t know how image rights work but I’m uncomfortable with a player owning their own, to the exclusion of all others in the game, if it involves images from game play. It takes 30 players to invest years of training and preparation to get on the field, not to mention all the coaching, for that one impressive moment to be captured on film. If a sponsor wants to pay for said image, then everyone deserves a slice because it wouldn’t exist without the collective effort. It might even have a faceless opponent getting shrugged off in a tackle.

If it involves just off field images of the player, for example standing beside a car with a big grin, then I can get closer to accepting it. But even then, we only know and admire this guy because they play well against all the other players. Without those other players, the image is worth very little, it’s just some beefy/good looking rooster standing beside a car.

So philosophically I lean to making sure everyone earns from their effort here.

As for this particular gentleman, well he’s clearly a super human and I think RA should long ago have found some distant Australian relatives and made a play for his signature. Yet another example of mismanagement by Raelene!

Has South African rugby let the genie out of the bottle?

I’m really surprised to see someone with this view jameswm. Obviously they play a different style of game as flankers and the ruck rules are so different that it’s tough to compare them. But it is our burden to try.

I really don’t see Hooper as being in the same league as Wilson.

It used to amaze me how often he was at the bottom of the ruck, like how had super human speed. Or how often he’d get absolutely monstored by the whole opposition pack and then get up and do it again. He was tough as nails.

I got tired of Poidevan and Handy saying, take a bow David Wilson as he got another turnover.

And that’s not to mention the results he contributed to. A dominant 7 in an incredible era and a bledisloe cup winning captain to boot!

Smith equalled or exceeded him I guess, because his link play exceeded Wilson’s, but I genuinely don’t see Hooper in the same league. Without a one eyed wallabies coach, I can’t see him being selected in any other era.

The greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era, as voted by you

Yeah I agree about Foley. To my mind he’s been our most consistent hooker who covered the core skills best. Not the attacker like Paul (who was a bit of a seagull sometimes I reckon) or the bollocking power of TPN. But he could hold up a scrum and throw it in straight.

As for Wilson… I thought he was like a fine wine. But then, when he retired I was also like Tom Hanks out on the raft in Castaway.

The greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era, as voted by you

Yes! Important clarification!

The greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era, as voted by you

I think the NRL treats refs so poorly. Fans, players and coaches alike. There is a massive victim complex on the culture of the game and it gets proudly displayed at least once a week by some coach/player/adminstrator/Gus saying, it’s the ref’s fault!

So I’m not surprised the NRL would treat them badly. If it’s a cost cutting exercise then they deserve the chance to negotiate pay cuts etc like everyone else.

If it’s a policy change then they deserve reasonable notice of a change in working conditions.

If it’s an opportunistic effort from the new bosses to win friends among the players/coaches/administrators/Guses, we’re just like you we hate the refs too see, all dressed up as cost cutting, well that’s just classless.

I’m with you and the refs, Mary.

NRL refs are victims of dinosaur fans and gutter journalism

That’s obviously a fantastic side but I’m surprised Wilson and Foley didn’t get more love. They’ve got incredible test records and massive individual contributions to those tests.

I guess it’s just the classic nsw bias again. Some things never change for Queenslanders ; -)

The greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era, as voted by you

That’s certainly what I read. I think he was advocating it, don’t you?

Super Rugby retrospectives: Scott Fava

I mean quokkas are a marsupial but yeah, not cool to mess with the little tykes.

Super Rugby retrospectives: Scott Fava

It was the comm games from memory. He was seizing from the KO/pole axing so they held a blanket round him to shield the view cos it was heavy to watch. Pretty sure he was taken off on a stretcher rather than walking though.

Super Rugby retrospectives: Scott Fava

Well obviously this is Rob Clarke’s fault. Great start mate.

They weren’t happy getting rid of Castle and then Mclean, they had to install a bunch of North Shore Sydney old boys in Clarke and McLennan who’d gut QLD rugby at the first chance. Proper rugby men and all that.

It’s a disgrace.

Or are we blaming Castle for this? I’m not sure – maybe we can trace it all back to Folau?

Reds trio refuse to take pay cut, stood down by QRU

True. Although I did go back and watch the highlights of that test and thought he really should have made that tackle. He had the sideline to work with and two defenders on his inside (who no doubt needed to communicate with him better to let him know they were there). But yeah he should have made the tackle.

The thing that spun me out though was that I always thought O’Driscoll made him look stupid in the second half with a massive missed tacke but that was Burke, who must have already come on as a replacement. It’s at the 3:50 mark of this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJfj1rILtHo

But yeah, still beyond that my memory was Burke at his best was a better pick than Latham at his best. But I always preferred it when Latham was picked because he was more dynamic and so more entertaining.

Pick the greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era: Outside backs

This was a fun clip of Tune to watch and reminisce.

I always thought he looked a little bit like Ewan McGregor too.

Pick the greatest Wallabies team of the Super Rugby era: Outside backs