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Who should play on the wings for the Wallabies is a much debated topic.
It is often said ‘forwards win you the game, backs decide by how much’. I would propose a slight change to this ‘forwards win you the game – in the ruck’.
Yeh you are right. If White was on he would have competed for the ball in both situations just like he did a number of times last week. Genia just stands with his hands in the air most times. White hasn’t done a thing wrong since coming back. He has probably been our best
All Black to the future at Eden Park
Yeh the poor fella hasn’t done much wrong in super rugby! He finished off the season as one of the brumbies best. Dont think there is much hope for him or McCaffrey :crying:
All Black to the future at Eden Park
Great article Nick! What do you think about Wright for LSL?
All Black to the future at Eden Park
LSL has now been the lowest rated player in these ratings in the starting 15 for 3 weeks in a row now… time for Wright
Wallabies DIY Player Ratings from Bledisloe 2: The results
Here’s some interesting figures of the some of the current experienced Wallabies (and Izzy) with the no. of matches and the winning % of the matches they have been involved in:
Kurtley Beale 86 / 59.06 %
Adam Ashley-Cooper 117 / 57.69 %
David Pocock 77 / 56.49 %
James Slipper 89 / 55.05 %
Scott Sio 57 / 52.63 %
Rob Simmons 96 / 52 %
Michael Hooper 94 / 51.06 %
Will Genia 103 / 50.97 %
Bernard Foley 69 / 48.55 %
Israel Folau 73 / 47.26 %
Maybe without Nard and Izzy and with KB and AAC in there is hope :silly:
Barrett: Our attack will click and All Blacks will retain the Bledisloe
Yeh LSL but he is a good second rower but just not a 6. He has got the lowest rating of all starting players on the roars ratings 2 weeks in a row. There was no rating for the saffa game where he played worse! Hope he doesn’t become the new Ned Hannigan
What we know after the Wallabies' stunning Bledisloe 1 win
Great article Wingman, very interesting! Amazing that Fiji has more registered players than Ireland, Scotland or Wales. At 120,000 only just behind NZ of 150,000. Crazy!
The world's most rugby-mad nation - by players per capita
Yeh true, we can all dream cant we! Good to have something a little bit positive for the first time in years though
Nine talking points from Wallabies vs All Blacks
The attack was brilliant! White was the reason behind it all. He was playing like Gregan of the late 90s. Can’t remember the last time I saw a player in green and gold play that well. Still would prefer Wright or Pocock (when fit) to LSL as we didnt win enough turn overs again as shown by the 14 man all blacks 20+ phases. But the attack was just so dam good it didnt matter! A bledisloe and a world cup would make up for Cheikas last 3 years I reckon.
Nine talking points from Wallabies vs All Blacks
O’Connor selection aside, the big thing between the two sides is that the All Blacks have selected Savea, Cane and Todd (on the bench). Three opensides versus our… Hooper!!! It shows how important winning the breakdown is to the All Blacks. All this stupid debate we have about Pooper and the World Champs have got 3 opensides in their team. We can still win but we need to execute perfectly and luck to go our way because they are gona monster us at the ruck.
James O'Connor confirmed to start in Bledisloe 1 as Wallabies make shock change at hooker
Very true. The only ruck stats fox sports has up is pilfered won and penalties won. Would be great to see the others. You might be in the same vein as me peterk – pick teams based on the ruck first then work outwards?
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Yeh Speight is the real victim in all of this. Easily the most all rounded winger in oz!
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Here are the results if we included tackle busts per run and no. of runs for each line break (looks far too attack orientated with these in there)
Total
47.45 Henry Speight
46.24 Curtis Rona
44.56 Cam Clark
43.43 Marika Koroibete
42.24 Sefa Naivalu
40.69 Jock Campbell
40.07 Jack Maddocks
39.43 Toni Pulu
39.35 Filipo Daugunu
38.17 Alex Newsome
No of runs before a line break
10.00 Henry Speight
9.97 Marika Koroibete
7.93 Curtis Rona
7.76 Toni Pulu
6.72 Cam Clark
6.28 Sefa Naivalu
5.72 Alex Newsome
4.95 Jack Maddocks
4.70 Jock Campbell
4.24 Filipo Daugunu
Tackle busts per run
10.00 Filipo Daugunu
6.09 Marika Koroibete
5.84 Toni Pulu
5.80 Jock Campbell
5.57 Cam Clark
4.94 Sefa Naivalu
4.69 Henry Speight
4.05 Curtis Rona
3.42 Jack Maddocks
3.13 Alex Newsome
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
So true. If you can’t look at form from the Super Rugby season what do you go by… the game a player had a year ago when he last wore the Wallabies jersey???
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Ok here we go:
Overall
34.26 Curtis Rona
32.76 Henry Speight
32.27 Cam Clark
31.70 Jack Maddocks
31.02 Sefa Naivalu
30.19 Jock Campbell
29.32 Alex Newsome
27.37 Marika Koroibete
25.83 Toni Pulu
25.11 Filipo Daugunu
Average Run Metres
10.00 Cam Clark
9.73 Henry Speight
9.38 Filipo Daugunu
9.29 Curtis Rona
9.02 Sefa Naivalu
8.66 Jock Campbell
8.66 Toni Pulu
8.39 Marika Koroibete
7.86 Alex Newsome
7.23 Jack Maddocks
Tries and assists
10.00 Jack Maddocks
7.36 Henry Speight
7.26 Curtis Rona
6.79 Marika Koroibete
5.41 Sefa Naivalu
4.31 Cam Clark
4.29 Jock Campbell
3.21 Alex Newsome
2.52 Toni Pulu
2.21 Filipo Daugunu
Errors pens etc.
10.00 Jock Campbell
8.78 Alex Newsome
8.22 Cam Clark
8.11 Curtis Rona
7.89 Jack Maddocks
7.78 Sefa Naivalu
6.22 Toni Pulu
5.67 Henry Speight
4.56 Marika Koroibete
4.44 Filipo Daugunu
Tackle %
10.00 Henry Speight
9.74 Cam Clark
9.61 Curtis Rona
9.47 Alex Newsome
9.08 Filipo Daugunu
8.82 Sefa Naivalu
8.42 Toni Pulu
7.63 Marika Koroibete
7.24 Jock Campbell
6.58 Jack Maddocks
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Yeh that’s fair enough. I will have a quick look and pop it up like that
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Yeh god knows what he is. His big boot doesnt get utilised too much unless he is at fullback
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Fair call peterk. Theres only so much to put in 1 article. Then I guess all the figures are still open to the fair argument that many others have made against the ones I put up – it all depends on the teams game plan and how do you compare like for like
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Cheers humpty. Yeh I was looking at pilfers, tackle busts, kick metres, line breaks etc. But theres only so much you can put into an article before it gets a bit diluted. Just thought a simple focus would be; can they make metres, score tries, make takes, not make mistakes. I will throw up the other numbers in a bit
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Come on Peter, we all loved big Dell! Yeh I’m 35 so Mooney was before my time unfortunately
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Haha true bigdave. Theres not much love for Clark out there! You would swear I wrote that Foley should get a wing spot!
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
True lifestyle I heard that one too. I was just doing a simple analysis off the data on fox sports lab. From what I saw of the rebels I dont need the stats to tell me both maddocks and Mk are liabilities in defence though
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Yeh good call Terrence. He had a pearla of a game late in the season on the wing. He has pace, a step, strength in contact, good defence, and has a go in the ruck. Great attributes for a winger. Would love to see him get a whole season there and make a push for the Wallabies next year. His pace and step are better used at wing with a bit of space rather than inside centre
A statistical look at the Wallabies' wing options
Hi Nick, I counted 2 turnovers won from the Wallabies from memory (not sure on that) versus the 10 the All Blacks won as you stated above. I looked at the team lists and if you go over the player stats from Super Rugby the All Blacks players selected won 5 times as many pilfers and penalties at the ruck than the players selected for the Wallabies. Pretty close to the results of this match. I’m pulling my hair out as to why the selectors aren’t addressing this!!! If our lineout or scrum win percentage was at 20% of the ABs everyone would be up in arms. Any ideas why???
All Black to the future at Eden Park