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Stephen Vagg

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A Queenslander never forgets a selection slight.

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thanks matth appreciate it

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

ah that’s embarassing… a watermelon.. that’s not cool

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

true – i went to that game it was packed

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

the players were expecting to be banned for life… so three years was short

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

I classify post WSC as the modern era though that’s a completely subjective definition 🙂

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

bugger – you’re right! i meant 61/62…. i’ll write to them asking for it to be changed – thanks for point out

Remembering 1987-88: The greatest Sheffield Shield season of the modern era

I admit I spend far too much time than a grown man should trying to think of alternate Australian XIs who might have won in 2010-11…

Another traumatic season: Remembering 1986-87

You avoided a lot of trauma by being born when you did 🙂

I might do a 78-79 overview some time… that was a fascinating series because it was a lot closer than the 5-1 results indicate… if John Inverarity had been appointed captain we might have won

1954-55 is interesting… I don’t know that much about it… it feels a little close to 2010-11 i.e. a British side on the rise against an Oz side in decline

Another traumatic season: Remembering 1986-87

Chris Mathews gets a bad wrap – i think he had more of a shocker in 1988/89,.. but he was such a great domestic bowler I feel he deserved a few more chances…

I remember Broad too. He was forever batting

Another traumatic season: Remembering 1986-87

Fair point

Another traumatic season: Remembering 1986-87

Because Im still working through it 🙂
Every summer, without fail, Queensland would shoot to the top of the table… every summer, without fail, they would stumble in the second half… You look at some of those 80s Qld sides and in some of them every person had played test cricket and they still couldn’t get over the line

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

And, I would add, Bob Holland

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

Lawson did come back in the late 80s though – bowled well in the 89 ashes especially and led NSW superbly for a number of seasons

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

Agree. Matthews had one of the most fascinating careers of any Aussie cricket player. His post cricket life is interesting too.

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

I think he made up for it by telling the story on the after dinner speaking circuit 🙂

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

He was a good bat for Queensland… hardly ever bowled… then took 29 wickets in 85-86 so they thought “he’s an all rounder” and rushed him into the ODI team… he was pretty much just a batsman though. Played a lot of good innings for Qld. I think the nerves just got to him.

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

Hadlee was always good but that summer he was on a different plane.

re: Bruce Reid – apparently he was John Reid’s cousin! 113 test wickets is pretty good… but with today’s physio techniques he could have had over 400…

Cricketing lessons from the summer of 1985-86

Yes! Extremely consistent too. Very unfashionable but very good player. Went to south Africa more to test himself on a bigger stage than the money.

Remembering the summer of 1984-85

They also brought in Ray Bright in 85-86 to help Border’s captaincy.

Remembering the summer of 1984-85

I think Haysman had a good chance of playing tests for Oz in the late 80s… but he decided to emigrate (as did Rod McCurdy)

Remembering the summer of 1984-85

I’m actually not sure that was Bob Simpson. John Benaud talks about this decision at length in his memoirs, where he explains many decisions of the panel during his time in the seat (an invaluable resource). However Simpson definitely did push for the exclusion of Greg Matthews, Tim Zoehrer, Greg Ritchie and Wayne Phillips.

Want success and consistency? The coach should not be a selector

West Indies under Lloyd were like the Oz teams of Waugh and Taylor in that suprisingly often they were 5 for not much in the first innings…. but managed to hang on, and once they did the opposition seemed to lose fight and then they’d be crushed.

Remembering the summer of 1984-85

I had to google Grecian 2000!

I used to judge Chappell harshly for taking off those tours. But with all this mental health stuff I’m more sympathetic. What wasn’t cool was him taking back the captaincy – that unsettled things too much.

Remembering the summer of 1984-85

Absolutely. Its unavoidable – even if you don’t select for the state. But hopefully the three will act as a check and balance on each other.

Want success and consistency? The coach should not be a selector

Yank as in remove! Keep it clean 🙂

Want success and consistency? The coach should not be a selector