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Loves to pull out the back and jam hard on the leading pod runner. And gardening.

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All for the whole concept of separate domestic comps where each nation fields as many domestic teams as they want, effectively giving them control over their top domestic competition.

But then a crossover tournament involving only X, Y and Z from each of NZ, Aus and the rest would produce a trans tasman / south pacific comp of a higher standard as it would only involve the best of each country.

On the other hand, I really don’t like the idea of these superficial wallabies probable vs possibles competiting in the tournament when in reality a lack of tribalism has been a major downside of Rugby compared to League in Australia for the past 15 years at least.
This is already done in Europe with the Champions’ League involving the best teams from England, France, the rest of the UK, and so on and so forth.

To be or not to Wallaby? A question posed to Tier 2 by the Rennie-vation of Tier 1 rugby

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TEAM CONFIRMED: McMahon on bench, Holmes becomes oldest Wallaby in pro era, Tate rested

How is Gordon’s form very poor at International level? I feel like this is so over exaggerated by those who see the highlights of McDermott’s running game but neglect the other 80% of the halfback’s role including service from the ruck and box kicking.

Genia’s article titled “The Folly of our Obsession with Shiny New Things” or something along those lines hit the nail on the head re over reliance on young talent. Surely the current form of QC is enough to show that your best XV isn’t going to be made up of the next batch of U20 stars…

TEAM CONFIRMED: McMahon on bench, Holmes becomes oldest Wallaby in pro era, Tate rested

Hodge ain’t no winger.

Coach’s Corner Issue 27: Who is really the number one team in the world?

Don’t worry mate he is powered by the carnivore diet, he’ll be going till he’s 40 at least!

WILL GENIA: Dave and Quade show folly of our obsession with shiny new things

I definitely think Foley earnt the jersey in 2014, 15, etc. with his ball running style but yeah once things weren’t working as well it didn’t feel as though we had a viable back up plan.

It shouldn’t have been the case with Cooper, O’Connor, Hodge, Paiau’a, CLL, Toomua, Godwin, Stewart and more floating around over the years but we sort of backed ourselves into a corner.

Even when CLL moved to 10 in 2019 it was more out of desperation than anything,

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

Appreciated mate.

Brett McKay also did a good write up that wasn’t so focused on Quade. Got published this morning also. Definitely worth a read

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

I actually still think White is our top Aussie 9 as much as I like what McDermott brings to the game. But that’s why I think it was important that he finished the game for us – having him on the field in the second half was crucial in my opinion.

I thought Tom Robertson could play tighthead – correct me if I’m wrong. Who else might be a good reserve TH? Pone? Holmes??

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

Interesting. Why do you say so? Have always loved a bit of Hodge and have thought the attacking side of his game has been underappreciated due to his kicking prowess causing him to be stereotyped as a kicking player.

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

And young tens we have aplenty: Lolesio, Kuenzle, Pasitoa, Harrison, Donaldson, Lynagh. None of whom I’d prefer over O’Connor or Hodge or now Cooper.

In a way we actually have better Super Rugby depth at 10 than in the 2010s when we had imports Danny Cipriani, Wharenui Hawera, etc filling our ranks. Hopefully now with Kuenzle at the Force we get to see him starting at 10 instead of the Argie – and therefore get an Aussie Five Eighth at each of the clubs with a solid Aussie reserve at most as well.

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

It’s a fair point. If we were to go 6/2 I’d drop Paisami and keep O’Connor.

On the McMahon point – I still don’t get why Wilson isn’t it the squad and why he was even dropped in the first place. I’d therefore personally rather see Wilson than McMahon on form / merit although would definitely appease the idea of getting McMahon in for Swinton eventually.

Swain in for Luhkan I suppose – although would prefer Luhkan if he was available.

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

Appreciate the feedback.

Yeah true, I don’t know why I said Allan considering he was obviously replaced by Tupou.

Of course, Foley the Ice Man enjoyed his fair share of clutch kicks. But I stand by the point that he must hold some kind of record in world rugby for hitting the post hahah

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

That could be where James O’Connor comes in.

Reece Hodge is another solid option too.

Would’ve loved to see Izzy soaring up to catch some of those bombs but alas.

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

With Allan Allaalatoa out, and James O’Connor and Sean McMahon apparently available for selection this week, what side would you select for the second test against the Springboks?
1. Angus Bell
2. Feleti Kaitu’u
3. Taniela Tupou
4. Izack Rodda
5. Matt Philip
6. Lachie Swinton
7. Michael Hooper
8. Rob Valetini
9. Tate McDermott
10. Quade Cooper
11. Marika Koroibete
12. Samu Kerevi
13. Len Ikitau
14. Andrew Kellaway
15. Reece Hodge
16. Brandon Paenga – Amosa
17. James Slipper
18. Tom Robertson
19. Luhkan Salakaia – Loto
20. Pete Samu
21. Nic White
22. Hunter Paisami
23. James O’Connor

The curse of the Wallabies’ rebuild is finally lifted

As you point out Cooper needs a certain type of 12 – the ball running option provided by a Samu Kerevi or Hunter Paisami. The poor bloke was given a couple of tests under Cheika a few years back with Foley at 12 and it just didn’t work at all.

I never understood why Petaia has been brought up as an option at 15. He has been in and out of teams with injury his whole career, and when he has played he’s been a strike runner at 13 or on the wing. I don’t understand where he has demonstrated the tactical kicking ability, defensive nous or playmaking ability to actually be considered anywhere other than 13, wing or maybe 12 in a few years.

I think given the gutsy win it could be safe to assume that Rennie might not make too many sweeping changes and instead bring O’Connor off the bench. I think where O’Connor plays really depends on if Cooper starts at 10 or not. 15 and 13 are two of the most wide open jerseys at the moment. As you point out he has experience at 15 and despite not having played there for a while he definitely could slot in. He also filled the 13 jersey pretty well in 2019 under Cheika so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him reprise that role either.

I think Pete Samu has been pretty good of the bench two weeks in a row now, and personally would prefer to see him again in jersey 20 at least rather than Sean McMahon after 4 years in Japan. I actually would have 6. Samu and 8. Harry Wilson as my choice back rowers however I think the physicality of Swinton and Valetini was better suited to the Big Boks pack.

Part of me loved to see a Force player in the team although yeah Kaitu’u’s reliability and precision could be the answer to the musical chairs act at hooker.

Why Rennie will pull the trigger on O'Connor at 15

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CONFIRMED: Quade Cooper returns for Wallabies at No.10, Rodda starts, two debutants

Sorry – lost control there for a minute

Can Quade and Samu wind back the clock for the Wallabies?

If O’Connor’s back, might he wind back the clock at 15?

9. McDermott
10. Cooper
11. Koroibete
12. Kerevi
13. Hodge
14. Kellaway
15. O’Connor

Or in his 2019 role at 13:

9. McDermott
10. Cooper
11. Koroibete
12. Kerevi
13. O’Connor
14. Kellaway
15. Banks

The band is getting back together

Can Quade and Samu wind back the clock for the Wallabies?

They go alright don’t they?

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Interesting stuff! Good to hear your side of the story.

“I have yet to see any responsibility taken by Penrith and/or Parramatta for the mess in which they find themselves and, like it or not (and I realise it’s an unpopular topic), there is a large measure of responsibility from both clubs which should be taken. ”
Any more details on what they should be taking responsibility for and / or things they could have done differently? From an on or off field perspective?

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Awesome – what’s the club?

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Wrong party James?

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Does grass roots not include Amateur clubs (mens / womens) also? Does the focus on exclusively schools and juniors place more emphasis on talent pipelines from school leavers and U20s and less on “late bloomers” through the club competition such as your Scott Fardys for instance?

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Interesting: looks like we need a clear distinction between what does and does not constitute as grassroots.

I also believe that an NRC would be far more important than the Shute Shield for aussie rugby.

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

Wow, interesting, I hadn’t heard. That’s big

Rugby in New South Wales must adapt or die

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