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What is NH DNA. Rugby up here is much more varied so good luck showing what it is. It’s not like all England teams play like the National team. Yes you have Tigers and Sarries but their rivals Sai ts and Quinns play complete opposite to them. Fiji did great this WC playing much more like “NH DNA” compared to their usual “SH DNA” just like NZ did too once JS got a hold of them. Would love to know how all the LVs that were brought in 2009 have changed rugby in the way they were promised. Easy to say oh the ones that weren’t would have made the difference but Bulls suddenly were alot better under the LVs, not sure they were running rugby specialists.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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For who. Worst French team of living memory. Wales getting results but terrible in terms of running rugby. Don’t think SA were very good either as they had all their old people in 2011 from 2007. You wouldn’t think that was the best based off NZ and Oz getting better results. That NZ team played much more tactically than those before or after them.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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England lack physicality. They are great in their own league but of late have not been great in Europe. Exeter won it when you could pre-latch and go over the try line and get a 5m scrum but since then teams have struggled against teams when a non-english ref is refing. South Africa had nearly as many try scoring chances as NZ in the final. Running alot with the ball and knocking it on wasn’t great. Seeing lots of 50/50 contests when catching kicks was. I don’t get the obsession over all teams playing the same way. Champions Cup kicks off this weekend and is a good watch because of all the different playing styles. If all teams ran every ball the game would be boring and no need for all shapes and sizes.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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It would result in more time spent on lineouts, more mauls and more one runners. I happy with those but that isn’t what the author wants he wants more 50m run ins

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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In France they make a thing of the first player to score a penalty, conversion and drop goal in one match as it shows players skills. I don’t get why people think only tries are real scoring. Should we tell them that originally tries were only there to get you a shot at goal and only conversions were actual scores not the tries themselves. Agree teams know they need to score more and they don’t really care what makes up the total score.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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You would just see more penalties given away in the middle of the field. Coaches would just tell players to treat the 22 like they currently treat the try line and just do everything to stop them getting in.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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So what was the jump in tries, ball in play time, cards. At the start and end of season how much and the initial benefits were wiped out be changes in defence. Interesting that it was the first All SA final and first SA SR win.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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What did their opposition score. Is it SA fault that their opposition couldn’t score tries. I am sure many of the losing teams fans of this years knockout games will wish they could of kicked more goals too.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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You aren’t meant to point that out. I don’t think people would be happy with all the scrums that happened back then. 1987, 1991, 1999, 2011 & 2015 were great WCs that were running rugby. 1995, 2003, 2007, 2019 & 2023 caused rugby to die a little as too much kicking so we need to change the rules to fix the wins for the wrong teams. I doubt there is any appetite to change rules and with SA and Arg firmly in with the NH I can’t see LV happening like 2009.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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While Scotland, Ireland and France have improved on attack they still are good on defence. SA is also good on attack. Having good defense doesn’t mean teams are exciting. England put 70 on Chile they just can’t beat the best defences.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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If you watch any of those games start to finish you see how bad it was and that it was bad defense and less joined up thinking between teammates that caused the great tries. Scrums were a mess and any of those scrums would have been running backwards against a modern scrum. We aren’t going back to 90s defense which had less ball in time play, more scrums etc. Even most u20 sides are more organised today.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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And scrum coaches would focus on getting their opposition to collapse the scrum. What do you think scrum coaches do for 40 hours a week.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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People kick to the corner to score tries from mauls. It’s not their fault if teams can only stop the maul by doing it illegally. There was only a few teams who conceded cards due to mauls.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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Carding players and giving penalty tries have resulted in more maul tries but it has also rewarded teams who maul well. Ame with 2m push overs. But even then rules were changed when teams like Exeter would go 20+ phases just banging at the line and if held up had a scrum to repeat. So people dont want tries, what you want is running tries which will mean either handicapping the defence to make them worse or move players out of the defense line, 50/22 was designed to do that but most SR players can’t kick 50/22 and teams like SA and NH just drop a player back and have a defender shoot up to cut out the outside thus making less runs. Ireland and France have some of the best defenses yet had the most minutes of ball in play time in 2023 with 46mins with lots of running because both teams can make their own quick ball to run off.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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As above you assume that players will let go of the ball quickly. What is the punishment if they pile on the ball, a few kick which they already would have. Refs aren’t going to card players every 4 rucks (about 200 rucks per game). You see with kick chases that retreating players don’t have to run straight back but can go at any angle they want towards their line. Does it say in the rules defenders can’t hold hands walking slowly back the 10ms. For the last 20+ years we have been bringing in new rules to speed up the game that has failed within a year because defence adapted. What has speed up the game is when teams get better at clearing their own rucks. Italy went from the slowest T1 to the fastest in less than 4 years because they worked on cleaning and presenting. I would love to see ruck speed of each T1 team on attack and defense for every WC cycle this century. Ireland for example have quick rucks, they drag in as many forwards as they can over 2-3 phases where the defense are onto of each other we few Irish forwards keeping them in making space. Oz and Nz should focus on making their own ball fast.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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So at what point do the players who don’t go back the full 10m become onside? We saw in the England v Italy back about 7 years ago when Italy didn’t form rucks on defense so there was no offside. Defense will work it out quickly and players will be taught how to legally make the ball unplayable every time the wistle is blown. How many of the quick tap and goes now end in tries and how many end with the ball being turned over. The article would turn rugby into NFL or League and it assumes that teams will not adapt which they will within a season and things we assume are not legal will turn out to be legal and slow the game down more. You will see more kicks and more dead time.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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Regarding offside lines it’s not too complicated. Hind foot is all up to interpretation. Some teams clear defenses beyond the ball but that should be penalised too. Teams have a rush defense I’m sure they could work out quick taps.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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The defense would smoother the ball before the quick tap could be taken. In Rugby we play advantage so defenses would have plans to stop it. If a player put his hand on the ball in a ruck why let go until your team is set just like league does. Another tactic is you have a player back ten whose sole purpose is to run up as soon as the ball is kicked thus quickly bringing people onside. Smarter people than me would work it out. We would end up with league restarts

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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Defense coaches would have a field day and everything would be done by the defense to kill the ball to stop quick taps thus making it slower and more like league (as would the cards) We saw in the final SA got very few penalties and yet NZ could still only score 1 try. Its not the penalties that have reduced tries its better defenses that tackle at 85+% not the 60% of 20 years ago. Defense has come on loads time attack stepped up not demand special treatment.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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I would say there are more tries scored because of penalties as it gets teams closer to the try line and not all tries are great running spectacles. If you reduce what penalties are for then the game will stop at every ruck as the defending team knows its only a free kick if they slow the ball down. Maybe some people’s obsession with running rugby is why it’s dying in certain places.

Rugby needs a revolution - if the game is to endure then penalties must be scrapped for all but three reasons

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Champion and Challange Cups kick off this weekend. Stormers and Bulls are in the big Cup while Sharks, Lions and Cheetahs are in the little cup. This allows the Lions players to have more experince of seeing out tight games that they might not get in the URC due to their lowly placing. For Bulls and Stormers they get pushed to a higher level. Problem is the gap between SR and Test is big and SS and SR is bigger. Putting in a level below SR doesn’t fix the gap for tests

'Open minded': Waugh backs foreign Wallabies coach - but with one non-negotiable

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While he is right to highlight the success of the women it doesn’t do anything for the finances which relies heavily on the men’s game. RA are right to stick with 5 teams but I don’t think all 5 need to be top notch as 150 professional players are at different stages of development. Sometimes the change is hard at the start but fans need to be patient and RA need to stop wasting money.

'Open minded': Waugh backs foreign Wallabies coach - but with one non-negotiable

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500k for a proven player, 3 times that for potential.

Done deal: Wallabies star signs with NRL powerhouse in brutal reality check for RA at start of 'golden decade'

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At Glasgow Rennie tended to go to the older players when things went wrong not giving players enough support when bring them in. Either starting or out of the 23 wasn’t the best approach.

'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook

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Good for him and good together out of the goldfish bowl that some places are. Seeing different people and experiencing different approaches is always good. I think he will be more rounded and if things don’t work out I an sure Toulon have a deal ready when he needs it.

'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook

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