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I've tried my hand at everything rugby. My serious playing ceased 40 years ago. My social playing, Fifths with my brothers, finished 30 years ago. I've refed, managed and been a delegate to the QRFSU. I've taught rugby as a school subject to boys and girls and I am still coaching schoolboys with an old mate, Got to loves the 4th's. I agree with the old colonial powers, spread rugby and develop leaders for the future in the community. You don't have to be 1st XV or a rep player to be a leader.

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I understand your frustration RG. The Wallabies don’t represent a company, they represent a nation. I’m sure it is not beyond media commentators to talk about “The Wallabies, proudly sponsored by “company name”.” Thanks to QANTAS for what they have done and what they are able to continue to do. Time for others to help our flagship teams continue to put our nation on the world stage and our players to do their part.

Qantas stops spending on sports sponsorships in major blow to Rugby Australia

Noted that Kintetsu are major sponsors on the Rebels jersey. I believe they have some sort of player partnership deal, no doubt helped by Genia and Cooper signing on.

Qantas stops spending on sports sponsorships in major blow to Rugby Australia

If so then maybe WR might need a bit of a shake-up as it would seem a number of Teir 1 Unions may be in the same boat. If WR wants to remain relevant to the world I’d suggest new thinking is in everybody’s interest

Qantas stops spending on sports sponsorships in major blow to Rugby Australia

Time to chase as many “little” sponsers as possible, rather than rely on the “one golden goose”. Every jersey gets a sponsor, they all get TV coverage, from whomever that might be, with a lesser value charged for numbers 16-23. Just a thought.

Qantas stops spending on sports sponsorships in major blow to Rugby Australia

Thanks Nick. Once again enlightening and thought-provoking. It’s interesting how one coach’s use of a player may effect the thoughts of another coach about the same player. Could McKellar’s use of McCaffery as an 8 last year have influenced Cheika’s opinion? Guess we’ll never know.
Now that squads have been selected, any thoughts on the possible playing styles that both AB and WB coaching staffs may be considering for the Bled series?

How the Brumbies had the nous to get home by a nose

Benjamin Disraeli, “There are lies, damned lies and statistics.”

How the Brumbies had the nous to get home by a nose

Knuckles, great ten-man rugby coach who would let the backs play once the team got into the right field position. Also very lucky to have had the great Bob Templeton as a mentor and friend. I believe Tempo was involved at Uni when Laurie Fischer was beginning his coaching career. Coincidence?
I took my schoolboys to a Wallaby training at Ballymore in the mid-90’s. They learnt more in 30 minutes of watching Tempo than I ever knew about forward play.

The Roar’s Super Rugby AU team of the season

Stowers at 6 had a bigger impact on his team… Can’t deny that, but did he have a bigger impact on the tournament?

The Roar’s Super Rugby AU team of the season

All he comment has been about 10, 12 and 13. All individually important and important as a sub-unit. My question is, how is this sub-unit going to be used to ignite 11, 14 and 15? It may be that Hodge has the short-term qualities that DR is looking for, maybe not. I don’t think it is a discussion to be had in isolation though.

Wallabies dealt major blow as the extent of Jordan Petaia's injury is revealed

I’m with you re the scrums IB. I’ve said previously that at best, scrum “violations” should only produce tap kicks after the defence has re-aligned. Perhaps then coaches will coach for the contested restart that they should be rather than treat them as penalty factories.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

Note – he was part of the coaching mess that started all this off…
Sorry Wb, I’m a little confused. Are you meaning Thorn, who was the coach of a successful NRC team and coach of a successful Qld U’20 team? If so I wouldn’t consider that a “coaching mess”.
And yes, they did get lost… but if the game had gone another 5 minutes 😢

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

Thanks Markus. Now I’m just confused about McKellar’s intention. I have always thought if you are good enough you’re old/young enough. Selection should be for the best players at the time, not crystal-balling for the next World Cup cycle.
While a stunning U’20 career and 8 (?) games at SR level (in a fairly forward dominated game plan) may show plenty of potential, I’m still unsettled about a suggestion that any player with this limited experience, is ready for Test football. Like the rest of Aus, I’ll just have to wait and see and wish for the best for whom ever is selected.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

Reds travelled to Syd, got beaten BADLY, travelled to Canberra, got beaten twice, but the second time by only 5 points, in a final. So, travelling is tough. I actually wrote earlier that in this professional age, travel shouldn’t be used as an excuse by anyone, and I won’t accept it as an excuse for the Reds. My problem has been with those who don’t see the improvements that have come during Thorn’s reign as a measure of success. I wasn’t convinced of his appointment in the beginning, and I taught and coached him at High School, but I believe in what he has done over the last three years. Can he go one step further next year? I don’t know, but I’m prepared to give the whole organisation a chance.

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

4th, 4th then 2nd in “the conference” by a try with the youngest team in the comp and he’s not been successful? So if another coach takes over next year and wins he’ll be successful no thanks to Thorn? How is success measured at your workplace?

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

Who ever is in the hooker pool, enlist Rob Lawton and teach them how to throw into a lineout

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

One older fellow, looking for the “superannuation” contract, to maybe look after the family village. Kerevi may not want to have had direct contact fearing Thorn would talk him out of Japan Two young, relatively inexperienced in negotiation, men guided by a manager who doesn’t seem to be all that highly regarded.
I think you’re basing disrespect on thin ice. If you look at the improvements over the last 3 years, I’d say there’s plenty of respect going in both directions.
Some coaches build a team for instant success, and get out while on top. Other coaches will build a team and culture looking towards a dynasty, not necessarily for themselves but for the club. Thorn as a player was a one club man, Broncos and Canterbury, at clubs that provided stability to themselves and their fans. I believe this was and remains Thorn’s objective. That kind of prolonged success does not come overnight.
In my opinion, anyone who thinks that a coach who has had his rebuilding team go from 4th to 4th to 2nd (by a try), in their conference, has not been successful, either has the scythe out after the tall poppy, or, has a very different view of what I’m seeing.

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

Thanks CT. Didn’t realise I had asked for a history lesson. Let me re-define. Why aren’t Rob Penny and David Wessels copping the same as Thorn? After all their teams came 3rd and 4th? I’m leaving Tim Sampson out of the equation as the Force are only back after some years out of SR.

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

G’day AtW.
” As a fan, should I really need to go on a ref’s course to understand the game I love? Is that what is being said here?”
No, but as a practicing ref, it made me a better player. I also appreciate the situations refs find themselves in and finally, it doesn’t add or detract from the enjoyment of the game, but at least when I speak I feel I can from a knowledgeable and experienced base.
I don’t believe it was fatigue that got to the Reds, I thought they were coming home a lot better than the Brums. For me it was the lineout and early nerves/over eagerness that lead to silly penalties putting pressure on themselves. Then the Brums took advantage of the situation as any good side should.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

Are you going to feel the same way about every other coach whose team doesn’t win SR next year? Why wait, tell me why the other three coaches in SRAU this year aren’t getting the same critique.

Brad Thorn weighs up his Queensland Reds future

I think you need to seperate the media chat That’s exactly what I was trying to say. And I don’t think McKellar suggesting he should be pushed straight into the Wallaby starting line-up helps either.
“Like we’ve done here, if you surround him with experience, a good forward pack, which they’ll have the Wallabies, a good scrum, lineout, maul and he can play, if you get on the front-foot he’s very dangerous.

“He’s certainly good enough and age goes out the window.” (Dan McKellar’s big Bledisloe Call) Put me in that situation and I could look pretty good too.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

I hope the big noise from some doesn’t hurt Lolesio. I think he’s got a future for sure. But at the moment there’s a bit about his play and a lot about the hype that reminds me of QC. And we know how that finished in the eyes of the south.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

I’d rather see Petaia out on the wing. Can still do some damage coming inside through traffic, but give him some room and I think he’ll be more dangerous than Folau ever was.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

At only just 30 yo (July), I don’t think JOC has got too many greys happening.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

G’day Drew. I was thinking more about the Reds than anyone else. Didn’t recognise the level of “trickery” from any other time in the comp.

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final

You’ve got to have the right calls and good throws before jumpers can do their thing. When the throws have been good the lineouts have been good. Anybody else think the lineouts have become too complicated?

Brumbies halt the Red tide to win thrilling Super Rugby AU final