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It is really a catch 22. The bigger clubs get bigger & the smaller clubs have no chance in catching up. And if you agree that the big clubs should get prime time & so a financial windfall, then we can’t complain when the smaller clubs get compensation/bailout $’s. I understand the $’s & Gills limited performance indicators but short sited in my view, a never ending circle & a real lost opportunity to expand the competition.

It's the AFL's duty to share the TV love

The article didn’t say what our preferred model was. I agree the 2 WA clubs have shown great leadership to get this comp going, more than any eastern seaboard clubs (SA clubs not included) & Vic clubs in particular have not been as flexible. And agree it’s not our preferred option. But in the interests of getting the comp going, the 2 WA clubs have agreed but with theses certain understandings for later in the season. For me this is a great quality that we have in WA & how we get over adversity, natural & AFL made, to achieve. Proud to be a Freo supporter (though a bit of success might help us). And whatever everyone says, it is clear the 2 WA clubs see the arrangement in the first 4-5 weeks as not being fair. Time to enjoy that lovely, safe little town you just moved to. Good red wine weather.

Hardwick: 'This will be one of the greatest premierships ever won'

Not sure if my previous response got through.
I am not suggesting you can’t have an opinion. I just don’t believe that saying the same thing over and over achieves much. And that’s not aimed at you solely. And I don’t believe I misinterpreted what Nisbett in particular said. I quote his quote in the paper. “But to kick the season off, we had to do something and it’s more of a hybrid model than what was suggested with everyone going into hubs. That’s what we have agreed to on the basis that at the end of the season, we would get games back in WA. If the borders are still closed, that means clubs will have to go into hubs. We have made it quite clear in all the discussions that if we’re prepared to do it (travel interstate), others need to. Starting on June 11 is critical because it gives a couple of weeks’ buffer at some stage during the season and if we had to use it, we’d use it.” Pretty clear to me.

Hardwick: 'This will be one of the greatest premierships ever won'

Yes you can have different opinions. And I don’t believe I have misrepresented what was said. Nisbett was far more direct than Garlick. My point in my comment is that you can say what you like as many times over & over again, but the underlying point is both Freo & WCE agreed to this based on the fact it isn’t fair now and that it would even up in the latter part of the year with games in WA, and that it was on the understanding that if the borders weren’t lifted then teams that aren’t required to be in hubs now, would do so in the latter part of the season. Even if that meant quarantine. That is why they have asked for their Derby match to be postponed, so that would give a 2 week quarantine period for other clubs. And yes I do believe that Vic clubs lobbied and whinged for this ( I didn’t comment on this previously) but with the above as the understanding, both WA clubs have agreed. Haven’t you read the AFL’s thank you and appreciation to the WA sides in the media?

Hardwick: 'This will be one of the greatest premierships ever won'

I like banter but this is rediculous. Comments made on state bias. I find it interesting that Nisbett & Garlick in the paper in recent days say, & I’m paraphrasing, that the WA teams agreed to this on the basis that we would get enough home games later in the year, and as WA sides (not commenting on SA) have done the right thing & gone to GC, this was with the knowledge that other clubs may also need to do the right thing & go into hubs later. So not sure what will happen later & how that will play out, but it is quite apparent from Nisbett & Garlick’s stance staying in a hub like on GC is a disadvantage. But we need to wait. This is the best solution at the moment to get things going, given all the States are dealing with the Covid virus in a way that is best for the health & welfare of the people in their state &(remembering all have different situations & priorities to ensure are kept safe), & on top of that, they all seem to be doing a pretty good job of it.

Hardwick: 'This will be one of the greatest premierships ever won'

Strange seeing your comments that all those games at the end of the year at the MCG weren’t all Richmond home games.

Footy is back, but do we care?

See today’s The West article. As I said above, Trevor Nisbett said they only agreed to this on getting home games later. And if the borders are still closed, clubs will need to stay in hubs. If WA sides can do this (move to GC) then others can.

Footy is back, but do we care?

Righto……thanks.

Footy is back, but do we care?

All states have handled this well. It is just that Vic & NSW are still getting cases. I think that maybe a population thing. But they are still getting cases i& that’s the issue.

Footy is back, but do we care?

I think your right Brendon. The final fixtures & who plays where won’t be known until later so it’s pretty hard to judge. And I have no idea what the restrictions are on players in the GC and those that are stay at home. And if I’m real honest, the AFL had no option really. The interesting thing is Trevor Nisbett’s comments in today’s West. He said they have agreed to this on the basis that at the end of the season, we would get games back in WA. If the borders are still closed, that means clubs will have to go into hubs. He said they’ve made it quite clear in all the discussions that if we’re prepared to do it (travel interstate), others need to be. So if Nisbett is correct then hubs in WA has already been agreed.

Footy is back, but do we care?

Yeah except All 17 sides will play the Gold Coast. And I have a feeling Gold Coast are going to scare a few sides this year.

Footy is back, but do we care?

I saw online this morning that the Qld premier said the Qld borders may not open until September. So hubs will stay for a while & cause more headaches for the AFL.

Footy is back, but do we care?

I think the bonding is a positive for Freo with such a young team. Not really for WCE as they are a mature side & have done plenty of bonding trips. It’s only really a big positive if you are doing the travel as an out of the ordinary. The bonding will be hoping for some home games at the other end & sticking up the non hub teams.

Footy is back, but do we care?

Does anyone know what the rules are for players restrictions for those that have relocated & for those that are stay at home?

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

Maybe. I think it goes back to my comment the other day…..Gil went to the Vic govt before he went to the Feds. They are in bed together….that’s also why he waited for the Vic govt to put forward there plan to open up the state before he announced the AFL plan. Pretty obvious really.

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

Interesting quote in today’s West from Gil when talking about having GF at Marvel if MCG unavailable. “ Whave a commitment to play the GF in this State & at the moment we haven’t thought past that”. I knew about the MCG dodgy decision, but where did this commitment come from?

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

I thought the initial thoughts from Freo & WCE was that Vic clubs would at least have to do some travel if they have to stay on GC for the entire season.

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

No crowds takes out the number of people able to attend argument.

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

As also a Freo supporter, I agree. But the chances as it stands at the moment, & with it being more than likely that WA & SA won’t open their borders in the next 8 weeks, it makes Vic based teams plus probably Brisbane as clear favourites. WCE who are right in the window are the real losers if that is how it plays out.

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

No,they asked at the very beginning.

WA clubs granted training exemption, but state borders to remain shut

This plan is as much a result of Vic still having cases higher than what is desirable as WA & SA not opening their borders. Don’t expect WA to have its borders open in 2 months, not sure on SA.
As much as I don’t like it, this season now is certain to have an asterisk next to it….or maybe no premiership awarded at all is a better option.

AFL returning on June 11 with use of Gold Coast hub

The WA & SA clubs have bought their players back home & put them through the 14 day quarantine. Why do that if they thought they would need to relocate straight after? Or they won’t get any preferential treatment like they will in Vic for example?

AFL moves closer to return as Vic premier green-lights training groups of 10

Behind closed doors I meant.

AFL moves closer to return as Vic premier green-lights training groups of 10

MYbe….the different scenarios and impacts are endless really. The states need to do what they need to do & the AFL need to react accordingly. The final option will be really interesting. I know we have the very real Vic centric thing, but in this case I think we need to be a bit lenient. Behind. Loses doors anyway, not to our Vic colleagues though.

AFL moves closer to return as Vic premier green-lights training groups of 10

Interesting, is Evens a CEO of a club a member of the Integrity Unit investigation that investigates & hands down penalties on other clubs?

Draft picks off the table, but Crows facing heavy penalties for training breach