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Chris Kettlewell

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Probably the best option for all the clubs to survive is actually to fully call off the whole season, not even consider trying to keep things afloat hoping that at some point we can get back, and basically cancel all player contracts, they can join the unemployment lines like everyone in entertainment and hospitality industries. Basically the clubs reduce their expenses as close to zero as possible. Then when we’ve come through all this there is suddenly a big hiring frenzy where all the clubs have to get out there and sign up players again for the new season.

It’s harsh, but unfortunately, everything is harsh at the moment.

Gus can’t see NRL clubs surviving

My guess is that part of that scheduling is based around the ICC requiring to have the grounds available for a period of time after football has ceased on them in order to make sure the grounds and pitches are in the required condition for matches to start.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

As pointed out, it’s got nothing to do with CA. It’s the ICC. Do you really think the AFL would be so petty as to lock out the Renegades from a ground that’s otherwise not being used because the ICC didn’t decide to complete rearrange a major international competition to suit them? Clearly you have a very low opinion of the AFL if you think they’d do that.

Certainly contracts can be renegotiated. But when you have a major international tournament with grounds booked a long way out, it’s hard to really think it’s remotely reasonable for the AFL to be able to reschedule their season and think they can just push them out.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

Hi Paul,
I’m not a drop in pitch expert, but I’d be surprised if they can basically prepare a pitch right up to being a day or two away from being ready to use and then just drop it in and use it almost straight away. But if they can, good on them!

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

I think that’s really their option. Either cop any delays in the season as shortening the season and finish at the same time, or play all the games beyond the end of the normal footy season at Marvel Stadium. It’s the only major AFL venue in the country not booked for the cricket world cup. I think the 25k capacity Metricon and Sydney Showground Stadium’s are probably about the only two AFL stadiums not being used as they are even playing some games at Geelong.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

Why do you suggest the Adelaide Oval is available? I don’t know why the suggestion of moving interstate is brought up Ronan himself acknowledges all the grounds for the ICC WC are also AFL venues. Basically any interstate venue that would be suggested is also being used for the T20 World Cup. Adelaide Oval, Perth Stadium, The Gabba, The SCG, would all have exactly the same issues as the MCG. They are all ruled out. Marvel Stadium is probably the only really viable option. The only other grounds not being used I’m guessing are GWS and Gold Coast home grounds. Can’t see an AFL grand final being played at either of them though.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

Pretty sure it’s not just an overnight process. I’d be pretty shocked it they could play an AFL match one day, then put the pitches in and play a couple of days later. I think it takes them at least a couple of weeks to get the pitches ready to go after “dropping” them in. I could be wrong, I’m not involved in any drop in pitch processes, but I don’t think it’s just that simple.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

Basically the MCG needs to install the drop-in wickets between the AFL season and the cricket season. There’s no option to just switch back and forth between the two. The need to stop AFL a certain amount of time ahead of needing the ground for cricket so they can get all the pitches installed and ready to go.

AFL grand final on a coronavirus collision course with T20 World Cup

If they called off the NBL finals after 3 games, then that should be the result. I still don’t get why they kept flying back and forth between Perth and Sydney. That’s a tough final series. But the moment they are shutting out all the fans there’s really no such thing as home advantage (as seen by the fact that all three matches so far the away team won), I don’t get why they didn’t just lock all the players down in the same place and just play the best of 5 matches back to back in the same venue. No flights required.

I can see the alternate argument regarding the winner, the finals series are best of 5, called off mid way through could therefore count as invalidating the finals and the team that was the top team through regular season is declared winner. But it’s not like calling it off mid-way through a single match. They’ve played 3, which is what the semi’s are, best of 3. So it makes more sense to me that the team ahead after those three games is handed the finals victory. So I think it makes a lot more sense to award it to the Wildcats rather than the Kings at this point. And yes, I’m from Sydney.

NSW Blues crowned Sheffield Shield champions as Cricket Australia cancels all organised cricket

Hardly a case of “gifting” them the league. They are 25 points clear at the top with 9 games to go. They’ve well and truly earned the title. No gift there. The sad thing about the EPL getting cut short is killing off the chance to break the record for the most points in an EPL season that they were well and truly on track to get.

But with what is a relatively short off-season compared to other sports, it’s hard to see how they can play a full 38 game season now.

The big question is the UEFA Champions League and other cups and things. Can’t award them to the team that’s “on top” as there’s no such thing. So if they can’t get back on the park soon could that mean we simply don’t have a victor for a lot of those sorts of competitions this year? Or maybe they push the final matches of that well into next season.

NSW Blues crowned Sheffield Shield champions as Cricket Australia cancels all organised cricket

Have they got a few different grounds to play on in townsville? If they are playing all the games there they wouldn’t want to do them all on one ground. (Could get to look like some of those classic photos of playing in a mud-hole eventually). I suppose it doesn’t need to be a ground with a stadium, as long as they can rig up everything needed for TV broadcasting.

It’s not a bad way to go. Wouldn’t be great for players all being away from home for a long time, but if all play is going to be for TV only, no crowds, then there’s no such thing really has home ground advantage as such. But it could allow the sport to continue without exposing them to travel. Could keep everyone involved reasonably isolated and reduce any great risk of the virus getting in.

Australia- New Zealand ODI series called off amid coronavirus concerns

Lots of companies and people are going to be out of pocked over COVID-19. I doubt there will be many lawsuits over it. CA are also cancelling things themselves. They can’t cancel the Shield over these concerns and then sue NZ over pulling their team out of two ODI’s.

Australia- New Zealand ODI series called off amid coronavirus concerns

It’s always the way with everything. You can watch a sport where one team gets the rub of the green from the officials for the whole match, but then one questionable decision goes against that team and their supporters rip into the officials completely ignoring all the questionable decisions that went in their favour.

Australia cannot believe the umpire turned down the most obvious catch

That’s an absolute shocker.

Australia cannot believe the umpire turned down the most obvious catch

Kiwi’s are a funny bunch aren’t they! I’ve had plenty of Kiwi friends over the years, but certainly when you get onto sporting things and the like, it brings out some strangeness. Certainly in the main, the reasons for the scheduling of Australia v NZ matches either early or late season is because of the shared season, and the fact both teams want to be home through the main part of the season. But logic has never been a big thing with Kiwi’s when they can search for another reason to have a chip on their shoulder against Australia.
And totally with you on the Rugby thing. I’m right there. Sorry, but sledging me about Rugby means nothing. The Wallabies could lose every match they played and it wouldn’t bother me one bit!

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

Perhaps, but they still only managed just over 250. One feels the SA batting lineup would have chased that down more convincingly than the Kiwi’s.

New Zealand's timid effort further evidence they're spooked by Australia

Let’s hope not too many people read this, or suddenly there will be a rush on wicketkeeping gloves and they won’t be available anywhere!

The Liebke Ratings: Australia vs New Zealand, first ODI

Yeah, I don’t necessarily get that. There was all this talk about NZ “finally” getting another boxing day test this summer, but surely that can’t be good for NZ cricket to have their national side playing away overseas through the middle of their summer, same for South Africa. I’m fine for Australia, South Africa and NZ to basically always be early summer or late summer test series and have the middle of the summer be taken up by England, Pakistan, India, West Indies and others who’s own home summer isn’t going to be badly interrupted by doing that. And when we play away in those places the same, have a test series in October to early November, or starting in early February.

No way should CA ever agree to play an away series in SA or NZ that includes the Christmas / NY period, and no reason for SA or NZ to do that either.

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

Exactly, read my second and third sentence. There’s no such thing as a bowler who can just consistently rip through opposition batting lineups in their home conditions. In fact, in ODI cricket, if you are averaging 2 wickets per match, you are doing pretty well. You’ll get the odd match where he will decimate a batting lineup and pick up 5 or 6. But that happens rarely for even the best bowlers.

Anyway, Starc didn’t even play in this last game where the bowlers completely failed to come close to stopping SA chasing down a well under par total, so don’t know why he’s so many people’s target.

Labuschagne fires but Australia lose again in South Africa

I don’t know about the Rugby comparison. I think RU has never been all that popular in Australia, and was never really regularly on FTA TV. Prior to Super Rugby coming along the only RU on TV was a bit of club rugby on ABC on Saturdays that I doubt many people watched. They probably took the 100% pay tv deal because no FTA channel wanted to pay any sort of serious money for it.

ODI cricket was already starting to struggle a bit, filling an uneasy gap between test and T20 cricket, so to completely get rid of it from FTA TV seemed like the final nail in the coffin for it at the time. It might not be, but certainly doesn’t help. FTA televised cricket now is just test cricket and BBL and that’s it.

We will get to see Aussie men in coloured clothing again next season because of the T20 World Cup at least as that’s an ICC tournament and so has completely different broadcast deals. I think Nine might still have all the ICC contracts and will show the Men’s T20 WC like they did the Women’s.

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

I don’t know. He did just break the record for the most wickets in a ICC 50-over World Cup just last year. I think people just expect too much of him. No bowler can just come out and rip through batting lineups on flat pitches match after match. It just isn’t going to happen. He’s doing okay.

Labuschagne fires but Australia lose again in South Africa

Depending on the context it’s sometimes helpful to think in terms of RPO. But it’s pretty easy to convert, just multiply by 6/100 to convert runs/100 balls into runs per over, or multiply by 100/6 to convert back the other way. Simple quick reference is 4rpo = 66.67 s/r, 5rpo = 83.33 s/r, 6rpo = 100 s/r, 7rpo = 116.67 s/r, 8rpo = 133.33 s/r, 9rpo = 150 s/r etc. (Basically each run per over equals 16.6666666666666667 runs/100 balls!) So batsmen all scoring between 4.8rpo and 5rpo equates to S/R between 80-83 runs per hundred balls.

Hope that helps!

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

The Sheffield shield is still going, and club cricket generally goes into late March. So to that extent the cricket season is still going. International cricket generally doesn’t keep going this long unless it’s there’s a World Cup here or something. But I think the big thing is that the Australian Men’s cricket team’s last match in Australia finished on the 7th of January or something like that. Then after they’ve been gone all this time they shove in a few ODI’s, one of the format’s they took away from most people and hid behind the pay wall a couple of years ago. Hard to see them doing well.

Finishing the summer on the women’s WC triumph would have been good. To then have these meaningless matches for the men in what is currently their worst performed format is a bit dumb.

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

It’s also not just a case of the season finishing late, but the Australian men’s cricket team hasn’t been sighted on these shores since the Sydney test at the start of January. Add to that the fact that there’s no FTA coverage of this, (which also reduces the amount of TV promotion of the game, as when it’s shown on TV the network will advertise their coverage of the game, which is promotion of the game that isn’t there without FTV coverage), the women’s WC victory feels like a nice way to sign-off international cricket for the season, and the fact that the football codes are all starting, and it’s hard not to agree completely with Clarke that the scheduling of this isn’t good.

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat

Both those are drop-in pitches. They’ve probably already removed the pitches ready for the AFL season. Of course, they could play at the WACA instead of Perth Stadium. Hard to see them getting enough people along to warrant the bigger ground anyway.

Ross Taylor is Australia's biggest threat