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At every level of rugby there seems to be an obsession with spiralling the ball when making a pass. Spiral passing has been in…
I was so discouraged and frustrated with the Blues vs Lions game on Saturday night that I changed channels and watched Mrs Doubtfire. If…
Jean De Villiers suffered a horrific injury last weekend playing for South Africa against Wales, an injury that will presumably take him out of…
In a recent Currie Cup game, a player carried the ball forward of his own goal-line and was tackled. From the tackle the ball…
In the second Lions versus Wallabies Test, with 71 minutes on the clock, Australia chose to feed a scrum six metres out rather than…
Maybe a metre in it. Depends at which ruck he is making the ruling.
If it’s against Ainsley at 80.14 then they more or less have the right mark. If it’s the ruck at 80.20 then they don’t have the right mark and it would be a ridiculously pedantic ruling.
My guess is he let the Ainsley one at 80.14 go and then got subsequent feedback on the run. It makes more sense if that’s the case.
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back in the day …when was that 1823?
There's no way rugby's 'greatest ever try' would be permitted these days
As I suggested previously. Complete the reading assignment I have assigned to you and you will find this hard road you are on less of a “mystery”.
Ok let me get you started….
“What was the degree of danger?
Considerations include:
• Direct vs indirect contact
• High force vs low force”
from Law Application guidelines.
If you were to be punched in the face …would you prefer a direct blow to the face or a punch that has glanced off your upper arm/shoulder.
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Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Don’t go anywhere near his place. He will have a dark dungeon for sure. 😂
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Just give it up will ya…. for heavens sake get a grip of yourself.
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Have you started the reading assignment yet……get on with it.!!
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
O’Mahoney one of the rugby worlds shrinking violets.
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
I’ve just scrolled a few comments down and here you are again …. stop pestering people and go and do that reading assignment I’ve assigned to you……goodness me.
Go and pester a stop oil protester or something else useful.
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
He would like it to be law particularly “when it’s an AB in the dock” 😊
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Just relax mate. Drop all that churned up emotion you have going on …. forever it seems… Go and do some reading of processes, protocols, laws, regulations, judicial reports etc and think it through.
You’re just shooting from the hip mate.
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Ahhh now we’re back to the whining churlish Pom. Not all – just you specifically.
Barrett CLEARED for Rugby World Cup opener
Have you ever heard of losing a match by default. LOL 😁
It would be like the boxer that doesn’t want to box….Roberto Duran “no mas”
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
Ok now its reached the point where you have to quote the relevant laws.
“It is ruled on this way and always has been” You use the word “always” as if the TJP incident and the Telea incident are regular occurrences at all levels of rugby every week. They are not…they are very rare.
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
“the standard procedure is for Refs to rule it as an incorrectly taken” ….That is simply not the case as I explained. If it was such standard procedure how could a referee as experienced as Gardner make such a fundamental error.
The standard procedure is for the kick to be retaken as required by law.
“If you play on as if you had taken the tap it’s ruled incorrectly taken” I believe you’re just making that up.
Players who take the penalty incorrectly from the wrong mark play on as if they have taken the penalty correctly. They are required by law to take the kick again.
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
How many times do we see referees calling players back for not taking a tap penalty correctly…… very often … for not taking it from the correct mark. As required by law the penalty must be re-taken.
Referees just can’t …well they’re not meant to….make stuff up. TJP was simply pointing out to Gardner on that occasion that the penalty should rightly still stand because the referees had deemed it had not been taken at all.
In Telea’s case it appears that it was deemed that he did kick the ball but not a visible distance. The sanction for this by law is a scrum.
Not sure where knock on comes into the equation.
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
I have not seen a replay of that incident to date but didn’t the TMO advise Barnes that the ball was not kicked a visible distance. The sanction for that is a scrum.
TJs case was slightly different because he went to kick the ball but didn’t even touch the ball so there was no kick at all.
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
It’s another one of these ‘careful what you wish for’ issues. If teams under penalty advantage have the incentives to “have a crack” somewhat removed, then it’s likely more teams more often will simply not “have a crack”. Less attacking rugby being the result.
The Wrap: Don’t buy Eddie Jones taking the blame for another Bledisloe loss, buy the hope instead
So whose watching the game on behalf of the TMO, so stuff like forward passes etc are not missed, while the TMO is further assessing the sanction for the player in the sin bin. It’s a tough gig.
The FPRC could have gone out for a 3 course lunch and drinks after in the time they had to make a routine conclusion when they had before them a citing officers report and a player pleading guilty. They have the easy part of the equation.
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“They have all the tools and technology” Gee this is so tiresome this sort of argument. What blooming tools and technology has he got . He’s got a slow motion video replay from various angles. So what. They were doing slow mo replays on video players when Adam was a cowboy. What’s changed.
When they introduce a tool like they have in cricket and tennis give me a call.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
“i believe this review process has made the refs take an easy way out!!!”
Noooo come on. If ALB had punched McLeod in the face or kicked him in the groin O’Keeffe would have had no hesitation in giving a RC.
This system I believe will in time be introduced throughout the rugby world then you will see that your European Rugger referees will take the same path as O’Keeffe did in this match and rightly so. This has to be probably the best idea that has been introduced into rugby in years.
“there is no substantial dip by attacker” …. well there you are….you already have a problem…substantial??? What’s substantial.
I’m not saying it should not have been a RC. But there is without doubt some dip by McLeod. I could easily point that out to you if we were sitting in front of a TV screen.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
The average punter wont go to a WR Website. What would be far better in my opinion is if following an incident such as the Chiefs disallowed try from the final that Super Rugby make a short Instagram/Twitter post explaining accurately why the try was disallowed.
You will have far more chance of educating the casual rugby follower using this method than expecting them to go and look at the WR website. I’m the only person that I know that has ever read the rugby laws book or who looks up the laws on the WR Website.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
Who said closing your eyes was mitigation.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
Yeah the referee could have given him a RC however because of the new process the referee can simply expedite it and delegate the task if you like. Game moves on without undue delay. What does it matter if the player gets a RC immediately or in 5 or so minutes time.
The FPRC has the easy job. They have a player (who has pled guilty) referred to them by the match Citing Officer. All they have to do is decide on the scale of the sanction which for incidents like this are always mid entry.
So by the time it gets to them it’s very easy to suggest what should have happened.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
Yeah I think they have got this one right more or less. The only query I have is does the TMO continue assessing the incident whilst he is expected to continue overseeing the match. Do we know? Is he on his own? Not quite sure how he can do both.
Rugby News: AB banned after grand final yellow, O'Keeffe reveals 'sad reality' of ref abuse, Les Kiss linked to Euro job
Well if that’s the case he should where that sort of comment as a badge of honour like Coles did and no doubt still does in Japan.
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