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The tweaks to the laws will be interesting to watch!

Petaia and Gordon to debut, Ashley-Cooper returns versus Italy

IMO Larkham is kinda damned if he does damned if he doesn’t(walk that is) at this stage. As if he quit tomorrow, he would most likely do so quietly and not point the finger at Cheika over it, and therefore would be at risk of being scapegoated by RA as the new appointment would be heralded as the much needed shake up and new ideas. If they haven’t realised it yet, the coaching staff have all played along for too long now and walking away at this late stage would fuel speculation that they jumped before they were pushed etc.

Michael Cheika's mixed selections for Italy

Something quite alarming is Cheika’s comments in the press conference regarding Petaia’s selection. He says that when he selected him for the tour that he wasn’t sure if he’d play or not!? But he has convinced him through a couple of training sessions that he is up for it!? WTF!?? Surely, he would have earmarked him for this game as a when he was selected and it was all part of “the plan” of him being there. Why have players tour if they aren’t a realistic chance of playing, like Banks, what’s this guy got to do to get a chance? And is it any real help to his development to tour Europe and not play? Why not let players get involved in the NRC and get stuck into pre-season with their SR sides or take a short contract in Japan.

And what does this say about Cheika’s planning? He’s just wingin’ it? Week to week, we’ve got a plan to win the World Cup but didn’t earmark a Test against the 13th ranked side as a chance to blood some youngsters months ago?!!

Michael Cheika's mixed selections for Italy

It is certainly a baptism of fire! “We’re gonna debut you out of position, but you’ll probably end up defending there part time!” Grey’s musical chairs defense is shown to be extremely taxing on the wings and its failing have been noticed by other teams since the 2015 RWC final. But it is at it’s very worst when the music stops and it is the players who are found to be without a seat and left out of the match day squad ala Koriebete, and the coaches just keep going along with the music!

Michael Cheika's mixed selections for Italy

Yeah Fionn, the issue appears to be that you and I obviously don’t know “the plan” that Cheika has, he let Raelene in on it and she’s pretty chuffed about it. From the outside looking in though, it would appear that “the plan” is for total annihilation of Rugby in Australia. Maybe Cheika is a mole secretly working for the NRL of AFL?

Nice backline by the way! That back 3 has a nice balance.

Michael Cheika's mixed selections for Italy

Good luck To’omua! This backline is reminiscent of the one Cheika lumped Cooper with 2016. Let’s see, we have a 34 yr old Utility back on one wing and an 18 yr old Outside Centre on the other. An inside Centre still plugging away at Outside Centre and a flyhalf at inside centre. Wow. Cheika mate.

Michael Cheika's mixed selections for Italy

Hahaha. Yes, exactly.

Rugby Australia need to quit slapping the proverbial pokie

Yeah I am not a fan of this whole its all towards the RWC, nothing else matters attitude. I’d prefer the way that it was before where just focus on winning every test match we play, and using some good judgement we blood young players slowly but consistently no matter what part of the World Cup cycle we are in.

4 years is a long time to wait and put up with poor results, if we win the cup he is a genius but if we don’t then we have surrendered a lot along the way, and for what?

Rugby Australia need to quit slapping the proverbial pokie

Could agree more with your post! Very well put and the “something more” I was alluding to at the end of my article.

“But Cole the one point I will make is; “I have no bloody idea how it can be done”. It will take a master of an administrator to do it.” – I also haven’t got a clue who would be able to take on the job. That person will need a greater ability to be able to communicate “the plan”, than the current RA mob. As it may take quite a few years and a lot of good will and patience from the states and rugby community to see the benefits of any new structure.

Rugby Australia need to quit slapping the proverbial pokie

Nice article Brett. This is exactly the problem, this Test match means nothing the WBs, as you put it lose-lose, but everything to the Italians who would have telegraphed this match months ago as a potential upset. Very dangerous times.

Lose-lose for the Wallabies against the Azzurri

Yeah it’s a bit of a downbeat article but hopefully reflective of the “down on our luck” mood within the Oz Rugby community.

Rugby Australia need to quit slapping the proverbial pokie

Credit must be given to the Eds here for the title, not sure what “slapping the proverbial pokie” is exactly alluding too but I was worried about the consistent use of the word “fallacy” and how that may be construed.

Rugby Australia need to quit slapping the proverbial pokie

I feel they should both be in the matchday 23, but with one on them on the bench.

Lost: Wallabies’ game management nous

Yeah definatley, I hope our local clubs can find a way to navigate it and survive.

Great article by the way! Really enjoyed reading it.

To scrum, or not to scrum: That is the school rugby question

This is a can of worms issue and will take a long time to find the right answers and balance. It is one thing to talk about professional players and the relationship with their ’employer’ eg. RA and the concussion issue. All professional contact sports are currently navigating their way through the liability and ‘minimising of risk’ to their employees but what about amateur rugby? Schools and local community clubs with players playing week in week out from juniors to colts, what liability risks does a local club have if a lifetime player winds up with a longterm injury linked with concussion?

We might see a cap on the amount of concussions sustained in a season or across their seasons in GPS/club – with a certain amount ruling them out of playing.

To scrum, or not to scrum: That is the school rugby question

Or pretending that Poey is an 8, what a brilliant athlete his is, but he is a 7. Oh and that Hanigan is ready for a the matchday 23. The kid might have potential but surely he is being damaged mentally by being put in way out of his depth.

Lost: Wallabies’ game management nous

Agreed. Shag is an epic coach, the entire discussion is semantics. Possibly worth an article if someone can be bothered.

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

Yes I get it, well done. But Cheika is not part of the conversation on this thread. It would appear that you are trying to sure up your argument about Hansen by comparing him with Cheika and therefore confuse and dilute the original premise of our discussion which was about whether or not Hansen is the GOAT, something people with good and valid arguments don’t do.

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

“I feel of my chair” ??? You may have hit your head too, either that or you’re actually going backwards and forgetting things you used to know, like how to write in coherent sentences.

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

The Cheika comment aside (which seems out of place), you make an interesting point Jacko!

It could also be argued that when he inherits a team that has no success he plateaus and continues on unsuccessfully but when he inherits a team of unparalleled success he is successful!

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

That’s fantastic that is all about the learning ‘something new’ everyday mantra, your life must be filled with constant wonder.

But, this is pretty straightforward and we’re not going to go too deep into the metric of how coaches should be evaluated in terms of utilising their resources and available rosters, but an example of why he is not the GOAT may do with his pretty disappointing tenure in the early 2000’s as head coach of Wales – 33% win record. He has never really taken the reigns of a team that needs help and ‘righted the ship’ so to speak, all of his success has been with what is easily the best generation of rugby player to all pull on the same jersey. He is rugby’s John Buchanan.

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

It certainly feels like that. Even today’s articles, one in particular, although slightly critical, has shifted the goal posts of expectation and success of the spring tour to next weeks match against Italy! I feel for journo’s in this circumstance who must fear being exiled from the inner sanctum if they write anything too much resembling the truth.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Hansen is not the GOAT coach. Not even close, just has had the GOAT team…

Heads must roll as Cheika's Wallabies lose against Wales with stupid play

Yes it is disappointing to go read, as I still do for some reason, a SMH rugby article only to get to the end of it and realise, that was pure propaganda! No critical questions posed, no hard truths realised – just the sky Blues errr I mean Wallabies are on the comeback trail. Like the political line ‘good government starts today’, ‘good rugby’ starts today should really be at the start of all SMH rugby articles on a Monday morning.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths

Hahaha.
‘Yeah I agree, the post post match media scrum is a tough one to navigate after a loss such as this one and I hold no grudges against Hooper for the droll and cliches he must bring out, its part of the captains job. To often professional coaches and players sound like politicians with slogans and pre prepared responses which in some ways can make Cheika’s and Jones’ response refreshing, but we must be nearing the end game here as both Coach and captain appeared bereft of anything to say of value, Cheika even criticised Hanigan! He mentions the exact play and says he did poorly, he must be close to losing the dressing room…

Interesting times ahead.

The Wrap: Cheika and Jones both losers, but heading down very different paths