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Blah blah blah. They are not heritage, so their ties are not emotional or descendent to the new country they now play for.Compared to those that have that.
You can throw up all the rules and regulations, facts are ru journos and indeed the PI countries are not happy with the ru setup.It has been put out in print and is on the internet.

What you can’t get through your noggin, rl fans realise the eligibility at times for their code needs to be better ,but that is the cards they are dealt with.
The Tongan Govt people,Govt are extremely happy with the result ,hence they declared a public holiday and the players are going there to celebrate.

SOO is what it is, and the NSWRL is involved in that area.What that has to do with country qualifications is chalk and cheese.You can crap on as much as you wish.
SOO will continue and get crowds ,TV ratings and TV monies.
RLWC will continue as the code grows slowly around the world.The qualifying rounds played in Europe involved majority local born players, the Cup itself will have large numbers of heritage.
You can bag it( as you do), and it isn’t going to change a thing, nor convince me.At the same time I will continue to be a little more cynical about ru and its residential rules.If you can’t make it (national)at home, move to another country for a few years and make it at the expense of local born.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Mat Steele oops Stat Meele.
Alcohol is a social problem ,but as you well know it is only in the NRL.

Broncos' David Fifita arrested in Bali

You tell them clip.Of course the players who do the right thing are not on your horizon.
Just like all the players form your code, never put a foot wrong.

Broncos' David Fifita arrested in Bali

LOL RaroAuz.
Well better have a chat with the Tongan Govt and their King, because they have declared a public holiday in Tonga over the victory and the team will be invited to help celebrate.
And RU authorities on these pacific Islands are now complaining they could not use heritage players in the RWC,so they were less than competitive.
I suggest you look at the fact only 3 RU countries had all local born players, the remainder had 25% non locals. Now that can be called amusing.But a resident is better ,than someone with heritage sheesh.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

mama.Still feeling uneasy once again.Insecure about SBW, insecure about Tongan RL, insecure about RL eligibility, insecure about SOO eligibility.
Bit of advice mate, you need to have a chat with Raelene Castle,the natives are getting restless.
You came here(with one of your aliases)bearing in mind with your historical bagging the eligibility of rugby league, which few deny we’d rather local born.Get it through your head it will remain that way till they get more players involved locally.RL authorities are going to take zero notice of your sniping.

Then when you are given the facts ,such as those above re the RWC, in addition there are growing complaints by ru journalists and fans consider it a joke, that in fact the only 3 countries had local born players, and yet it was all OK .

Considering ru is far bigger around the world, they should have a lot more local born players.The Pacific Islands ru authorities are complaining they can’t use heritage players in the RWC,as they continue to get beaten.Again you should ask them.

And FYI the Tongan Govt with the King’s approval has announced a public holiday as a result of the victory
over the Kangaroos and the players will be invited back to the Island to be involved.Th effect of these victories has resulted in rl growing strongly in Tonga ,now into schools.
So much for bagging the Tongan rl set up.I take notice of them ,not someone who hates rl, and uses many names.

Residential rule,OK send half a dozen players over to say Japan and after a a small number of year they became eligible to play for Japan, and and then become Japanese national players and make that team really competitive.Yeah right LOL.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

He has other business interests in Toronto , other than living on the largesse of his past business.The expectations and hopes for this hemp product enterprise is but a new one.He is also working on a 3 year deal with Netflix which involves SBW.
Remember it was a guy by the name of Perez(who is still involved) who started the Wolfpack up in the first place, and there are other local investors involved.
Judging by the amount of Canadian media publicity the club has been receiving in the past and now ,either his ego and or passion or both have been stroked well.
He has deals with an airline and hotels to handle visitors and his and overseas players.
Perez is behind a consortium pushing for an Ottawa team, to start off in a similar fashion to the Wolfpack. Additionally another group are pushing for a NY franchise.and an agreement could come as early as December with the RFL.
My view FWIW ,whilst pushing a certain product is but one aspect for the Wolfpack, the long term view is a Canadian/Yank N/E rl comp.
Why telegraph your long term punches, if you’re still in the sparring room?

Has Sonny Bill signed with the Wolfpack?

Yep Bangkok and there are other places within Thailand other than Pattaya and Phuket. Anycase even in those places how many times have your heard of NRL players getting into this type of rubbish.You can get involved in brawls in pubs anywhere overseas if you you look the wrong way ,or knock over someone’s drink.But that’s not the point.
Because Bali is closer and el cheapo, the multitude goes en masse.
The warnings have been loud and clear for yonks about Bali not so in Thailand.

Broncos' David Fifita arrested in Bali

Why oh why do they continue to go to Bali? If you want to hit the slops without getting decked or wanting to deck, there are other sunny places where the chances of saying hello to a magistrate are far less.
Even the schoolies have now twigged, giving Bali and even now the Gold Coast the flickeroo, to go to Fiji,Hawaii or even Thailand.
Bali tourism for males (who want to drink in abundance) is an accident waiting to happen.
NRL clubs welfare officers should sit players down end season and spell out the realities of where the bad stuff is more likely to happen when taking a break.

Broncos' David Fifita arrested in Bali

Mama
You’ve brought the same issues up before, under other aliases yawn.
Glad you mentioned “flag of convenience.” for rl.
With just a touch of “irony” the following:-
Under the heading 25% of players at the 2019 RWC were born in 3 countries ,and only 3 of the 20 squads competing in Japan contained no foreign-born players.
The source :-
https://www.iol.co.za/sport/partnered/25-of-players-at-the-2019-rugby-world-cup-were-born-in-3-countries-33846406
Perhaps one should look in other backyards ,to see where other dogs are barking.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Mama.
Of course,I’m not going to suggest a Roar contributor/s (fill in the blanks)derided the decision about the introduction of the Wolfpack, if they didn’t do so.
Go back though the Roar archives, when the Wolfpack’s genesis came to the fore ,the various negative comments were there for all to see.
Refer me to the actual comment ,where I stated Hayne would fix everything, not hearsay which you are famous for? Waiting……
Yep SBW has been injured ,as has quite a few NRL players like Tom Turbo,Graham at the Sharks,Sam Burgess.It’s a contact sport sh… happens.And the ESL is nowhere near as demanding or defence orientated as the NRL.
34 so what,Gallen was 36 +.
And you are once again comparing Hayne with SBW ,as to their marketing value, profile and what they would bring to a club or a competition, just laughable.
How many media outlets in the UK, Canada,or even NY made note of Hayne’s signing?
The signing of SBW to a RL franchise (regardless of the final results of his entry) ,has certainly got under your skin.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Munro Mike sorry my jumping the horse.

Cooper Cronk joins GWS Giants

The Titans are saved and still going, privately owned and firmly planted in SEQ.
Both Hayne and Idris were always up and down players, inconstent. SBW plays to the full all the time.
But we were told here when the Wolfpack first started ,get back in 2 years if they are still around LOL.
Last para again wrong ,I’ve have never stated either of those two guys would save the Titans.I stated Hayne would be good for marketing ATT, and he was ,but that’s it.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Munro Mike
Here’s the story re Cronk and the Roosters.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/10/31/cronk-joins-roosters-coach-staff-to-help-halves/

Cooper Cronk joins GWS Giants

Nzmate.It probably won’t in other countries, but it will lift the ESL and has ensured the Wolfpack will have full houses at home(already many games there already sold out).According to the Wolfpack and the ESL,they have had a number of unsolicited enquiries from businesses, about involvement.So it’s not all bad news.
None one suggested rl has that intnl pull.If it did they would have signed Billy Slater.

Remember SBW was a rl player as a kid,all he is doing is returning to his first code.

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

Mama.The so called Perth Quokkas are already building up their juniors ,now at the level in numbers they were when the Reds came in.
They will secure players from everywhere.After all that happens with professional teams.Just like a couple of clubs from your code in NSW did in the early days.Marquee players get bigger deals ,and in the ESL they could throw in Trump Tower if they wish.
And the team will be called the Pirates should they get the go ahead.
Be happy, a player brought up on rugby league ,will be finishing his career playing rugby league, in a beaut country like Canada.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Can’t please everyone Rudy.Tongan fans both in that island and here have an opposing view.
Better have a chat with ru officials in those P.Islands, because they now want to draw on
heritage players to build up their strength.They claimed they would have performed far better in the RWCV this year, if given that choice.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Nope.Stat Meele(another alias)LOL
I suggest the crowds that attended the Tonga matches, the reception back in Tonga by the govt and people when they watched the game, the reaction in the NZ press and even the Pommy press and the fact the Pacific Island ru officials are calling for players who have their heritage and playing for other countries such as the ABlacks, be able to access these players.
If it’s not respected the British Govt wouldn’t be putting in large sums.
The large numbers of players in the RWC this year, who were not born in the country they represented ,did not detract form the tournament one itoa.

Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

Munro Mike
Yes he sure is ,he is involved with the Roosters halves ,which includes Flannagan’s son.And he will be involved I’d suggest on NRL on Fox.
Where the hell did I suggest it’s wrong to look outside the square?
Rugby league players have tried out for AFL, boxing, NFL,ru. Like people in business you follow the money and opportunities.
Seriously mate I have stated on more than one occasion on this site,Cronk is one NRL player I admire greatly.Can;t be any clearer than that.

Cronk is also interested in coaching down the line, and commentating on rugby league.

Cooper Cronk joins GWS Giants

Yet mama you were the one in your prior( lost count of the aliases),that said :-
@ it would never get off the ground.
b)it would never get a crowd: it does.
c)media would take no interest : it has and the signing has now reached the NY Times.
d) It wouldn’t last:Well it’s been in the English lower divisions for a couple of years now the ESL.
d)It’s full of imports ,so no one there would care:apparently another fail.In Canada many of their comps have stacks of overseas imports.And Canadian locals don’t give a stuff where they come from as the Wolfpack crowds have shown.
e) You said Perez the original owner would be a fly by night, now he is involved in starting up an Ottawa franchise for lower English division rl.
Seriously mate sometime it’s better ,if you don’t lead with your chin time after time, just because you hate rugby league. It comes back to bite ye.
Your envy and insecurity on anything that happens with rugby league , more so now with the SBW signing is embarrassing.Clipper would be proud of you though.
Comparing Cooper Cronk (who I admire )with the wide media appeal of SBW, seriously ,are you serious?

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

Mama.
Just imagine if the subject matter was actually about SBW and the Toronto Wolfpack(oh wait it is),and not about the AFL ,introduced via the league hating exponents such as yourself and clipper, this thread would be a far better place.So mate, using your x number of aliases ,grow up.
If it’s about a RL test then we’ll debate it.It’s not ,so please go and find another alias ,and then form rings of three and surround yourself.

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

On cue Clipper brings in his usual AFL hype.Insecure what?Can we please concentrate on the subject, or is posting on your own code’s threads too boring?

This is a guy who played in code with a large international presence (ru)and has a reasonably high profile.He is getting a fortune to play rl in a new area.You find that unsettling.

You’re still bringing up the same old childish mine’s bigger argument.If you have noting to contribute, by continually doing so, you’re better off back on AFL threads.Just boring mate.

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

Clipper as expected and on cue .
Of course it’s more to do with the signing of the guy the owners have virtually stated so, but one cannot deny the fact it has given the ESL a darn side stack of publicity, not only in its homeland but abroad .BTW Money SL did not have to outlay 1 cent.And the club in particular in many countries has received the coverage as expected.
Whereas the head body of the Folau code switch you refer,contributed financially to the change, and it had little if any media interest overseas. Folau had never played AFL,SBW has played NRL, another point you ignore.
The club has already sold out most games iN Toronto next year ,prior to him actually pointing the pen.It’s 2 years not 10.

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

Even the prior news about him being chased and ready to put pen to paper. has been in the media in Ireland,Wales,England,Canada,Pacific Islands,Southern Aust states, front page NZ.So it’s been getting a hell of a lot of unpaid media coverage.
Can’t put a monetary figure on it(SBW), but from an awareness perspective ,it seems to be doing more than its fair share.

'Rugby's LeBron James': Toronto confirm SBW signing

Rob9.The $10m actually includes a share in the ownership of the club, of which the majority shareholder Argyle is prepared to water down his majority holding to bring him on board.
And apparently part of the deal will provide SBW a starring role in a Netflix series which the Wolfpack hope will run over 3 seasons.
Additionally a new rl Ottawa franchise set up by the former Wolfpack founder Perez has been given conditional approval.Obviously to start in the Pommy lower divisions.
And a Pommy promoter is in the throes of establishing a New York City rl franchise again in the lower divisions as a starter.
Where this all leads who knows, but I do suggest when the initial decision to enter the Wolfpack in the English lower division initially, everyone laughed.Yet they averaged 7k plus in their early days, despite imported players(which Canadian sports do have in their majors also) and media coverage not only in Canada but even on a couple of occasions in NY.
I have recently googled about the possible signing of SBW to check on media reports.What I have gleaned even then was coverage across Canada,BBC News naturally and many South England outlets,Irish Times,South West Guardian Wales, across the Pacific Islands and NZ,Bendigo Advertiser,Murray Valley Standard, hell even the Hepburn Advocate.
From a publicity perspective even before a ball point is put to paper, has put the name Toronto Wolfpack in front of many eyes.
Again the effect who knows.
The market .No doubt the North American consumer market is a big one and naturally not big for rugby league.Does it have to be ?Argyle is not an idiot he made a lot of money in WA and has businesses in Toronto.
The aim I suggest is for these guys to create a niche, which certainly Toronto Wolfpack seems to be doing in that city ,as already most of their home games in 2020 are already sold out.
The trouble with rugby league over the last century ,they have been either too placid , or introverted to push expansion, yes there have been barriers at times on a couple of occasions, when they tried to do so.Thus it has been marking time.
To get wealthy entrepreneurs the likes of Argyle (who has a ru background) prepared to put their dollars in setting up an expansion rl franchise ,promoting it massively ,is something the RFL/ESL should be thankful for.Because as sure as Thurston can kick a Steeden, the RFL/ESL have shown they are incapable of doing so.
should be something the code

Has Sonny Bill signed with the Wolfpack?

Mama.Now another alias you have used on the Roar.I t doesn’t make your comments anymore factual,laughable in fact.
I don’t hate anyone or any code, just stupid ill informed comments from people who come on to rl threads to deride the code.It’s blatant ,immature and shows signs of insecurity.
There are a couple of people who do jus that yourself, Clip and have been doing so for ages.
Should I feel the need to go onto AFL threads to carry on like you guys do here, then I have a problem.Check your own backyards.Mama,is the same guy who writes to print media to show his disataste for rugby league.

Cooper Cronk joins GWS Giants