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Brendon, There already exists an intentional behind rule. The umpires do not police it properly.
The AFL cannot outlaw the 'third man up' tactic
I am glad the Appeals Board gave Dank the extension. Give this man enough rope and he will hang himself.
Dank gets stay of execution after appeal
Seriously, surely lolly juice cannot influence the ball can it ?
Everyone lay off the South Africans, they only broke the law
Hawkins is hapless, Menzel is mercurial and Cat is incisive. Dangerfield too often gives poor delivery just bombs !
In defence of Chris Scott
Steve, Do you have any evidence or confirmation of Bartel coaching ? By the way don’t you sleep ?
Are we seeing a new way of AFL players retiring?
Andrew, Your response was admirably restrained. Richo contributed nothing with his post. Also the heading to your article clearly identified your October 20 dateline. Sad how Geelong treated Bartel in the end.
Are we seeing a new way of AFL players retiring?
Tim, Agree totally with what you say ! Also think Demons will regret giving Lewis three years.
Applying logic to the Hawks' trade decisions
Yes, I’m confused too. Jobe has done something in 2012 sufficiently bad to be suspended for an entire season. Surely this must mean the AFL strip him of his Brownlow Medal.
Jobe, about that Brownlow...
It is NOT in Jobe’s best interests to surrender the medal. If the AFL takes the medal Jobe can claim more compensation. Thus Jobe should retain the medal on the basis that he did not take any PED that impacted on his play during season 2012. Then the AFL will probably take his medal and then he can claim substantially more compensation.
Jobe, about that Brownlow...
Jano, Thanks for your further input. Many hands over a long four years have contributed to a horrible mess. Just resolution is difficult to distil. Jobe has painted himself into a corner. Now await developments. Fitz
Jobe, about that Brownlow...
Jano or Northerner, Could you answer my question, why has Jobe not surrendered his medal now or long ago ?
Jobe, about that Brownlow...
PD, It is interesting no one has replied yet to your post. I have tried to make similar points elsewhere. If Watson believes he took a PED that impacted his 2012 performance he should have surrendered the medal long ago and should do so now without further delay. Why has he not done so ?
Jobe, about that Brownlow...
TomC, I believe it is improper for the AFL to invite submissions from Cotchin and Mitchell and that they have both declined to make submissions. Maybe the AFL were hoping C and M would decline receiving the medal to save them from having to make the decision.
AFL Commission set to finally decide Jobe Watson's Brownlow fate
Gunston was returning home. Not sure Kennedy was enticed away. Think Hawks stupidly acquiesced in him departing. Every time I see him playing for Sydney instead of with the Kennedy family I am so sad. Also can’t stomach Mitchell playing for West Coast.
RATE THE TRADE: Tom Mitchell a Hawk for first-round pick
The Commission say they are making sure Jobe has enough time to prepare his submission. Anyway, what’s another month after four years ? Also, Jobe’s two sisters are getting married so there is no hurry.
AFL Commission set to finally decide Jobe Watson's Brownlow fate
Hey hey, steady on you two, you are impugning the captain of my club and a competent footballer who scored the votes on his merits.
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
RA, I follow what you say, but CAS did not go so far as to find Jobe personally guilty. They just concluded that they were comfortably satisfied that the Essendon players as a group took PED’s.
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
Delbeato, If the Appeal decision was so clear cut why did it take so long to issue the decision ?
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
Milo,
I respect what you say. However the AFL Tribunal were not comfortably satisfied that the Essendon players took PED’s. CAS did not find the Essendon players were actually GUILTY of taking PED’s. CAS just said they were comfortably satisfied that the Essendon players took PED’s. Their Appeal was misguided and taken and dismissed on a technicality. It did not address or even consider the question of whether or not PED’s were taken.
If Jobe knows he took PED’s then he has done the wrong thing stringing everyone along. If he does not know that he took PED’s I think he should make his representations to the Commission and await their decision. They will probably take his medal and thereby imply Jobe is a cheat and impugn his character. But they will not have established he is a cheat and guilty. That being the case I think it sad they will not give him the benefit of the doubt.
As a long time Richmond supporter and resident of Hawthorn the alternative award to Cotchin and Mitchell would be appropriate and an unexpected bonus.
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
Hi me too, If Jobe knows that he took a PED he should hand back the medal. If Jobe knows that he did NOT take a PED he should not hand back the medal.
The trouble is I don’t think Jobe, the AFL Tribunal, CAS or most particularly the Commission knows for certain whether or not Jobe took a PED. CAS is the only person who says they are comfortably satisfied Jobe took a PED.
In making their decision must the Commission adopt the CAS test of “comfortably satisfied”, their assessment of the evidence against Jobe, their reasoning against Jobe, their exercise of discretion and their decision.
Gillon McLachlan says the Commission dreads making this decision. Why ? What does “comfortably satisfied” mean ? I suppose it means on the evidence before them CAS thinks Jobe probably or more likely than not took a PED. That is a long way short of CAS saying they are satisfied Jobe took a PED.
All I am saying and have said is that the Commission faces a dilemma. If not why do they dread making this decision ?
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
Hi PD,
(1) You are correct ! I need a sub-editor. Didn/t think anyone was paying attention.
(2) I am inclined to agree with you about the AFL accepting the CAS decision but AFL CEO Gillon Mclachlan says “the AFL Commission has a collective dread of making this decision”.Why ? ? This suggests the AFL has a dilemma and is unsure what its decision should be ??
(3) The AFL Tribunal was not comfortably satisfied the Essendon players including Jobe took PED’s. Can the AFL Commission rely on that ? What is the question the Commission must ask itself to decide whether Jobe keeps his Brownlow ? Is the “comfortably satisfied” test correct for this decision ? Is there any element of “benefit of the doubt” ?
The CAS decision applied to the Essendon players as a group. The current decision relates to Jobe as an individual. Does the Commission have adequate evidence about Jobe the individual to be satisfied to actually reverse a decision and take back the medal ? The Commissioners dread making this decision.
Banned Bombers lose appeal, Jobe's Brownlow in doubt
Greene used his leg and foot to resist a Dalhousie tackle in a push back like Dustin Martin uses his arm and hand. Greene could not use his arms and hands to resist because he was catching the ball. Whether he should be permitted to use his foot this way is debatable but I suggest is too dangerous and should be outlawed. Whether Greene meant to push Dahlhaus in the face we will never know. However whether accidental or deliberate he planted his footwear with stops in Dahlhaus face. Dahlhaus fell to the ground injured with a cut face and left the ground. The umpire awarded a free kick and reported Greene. I think the infringement was so serious it should have been referred direct to the tribunal. There the facts could be established and Greene given an opportunity to explain and defend himself. However, accidental or not, he struck Dahlhaus in the face with his stoppered footwear. Dahlhaus was injured with a cut face requiring stitches and left the ground. If Greene had punched Dahlhaus with his fist inflicting the same injury he would have been suspended for several weeks. It is laughable that Greene was treated leniently because he struck Dahlhaus with his stoppered footwear rather than his fist and it is a travesty of justice that his offence was graded as misconduct with a fine of just $1500. The MRP has set a most unsatisfactory precedent.
The MRP has failed, letting the dangerous Toby Greene off